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22 Nov 2005 17:01 | Dusty | Playstation 3 PS3Today.com | Link to this article
Update: "Comments published in a CNN article yesterday purporting to be from Sony CEO Howard Stringer regarding the planned pricing for PlayStation 3 have been removed after it emerged that he had not said anything on the question.""Stringer has not commented publicly on how much the PS3 is expected to cost, or how soon it will appear in the US after the Japanese launch in spring 2006." -- Gamesindustry.biz Add Comment Unregistered - Moe 11.22.2005 17:29 This article seems very similiar to the other one. I can't see the PS3 being more than $400. I just wish they would announce a FIRM U.S. date. I'm still hoping that SPRING of 2006, means in the U.S. Keep the news coming-I can't wait until the PS3 comes out. Unregistered - Nosferatu 11.22.2005 17:50 Nice keep the news coming Dusty, well more news should come up probably next year concerning the release date in the U.S. I don't mind the waiting for the ps3 now because I really want this console. Unregistered - Nosferatu 11.22.2005 17:53 I don't mind waiting for the ps3 now because I really want this console. Unregistered - Moe 11.22.2005 17:59 The sooner, the better, IMO. They showed the PS3 way back at E3, having to wait another year and half after that, wouldn't be preferable. I'd rather see them do this right, however, KNOWING that it will be released in the SPRING of 06 in Japan makes me wish they tried to do a GLOBAL release to accomodate everybody. Unregistered - rtfakktor 11.22.2005 18:17 it's crap. i like the playstation. but the dvd format war has now intruded on gaming. who cares if it plays blu-ray. xbox has beaten sony to the punch. if sony waits until mid 2006 they will lose alot of ps loyalists namely myself. get with it sony. the longer you stall, the sooner you will be the next sega, coleco, atari in the video game era. Unregistered - Arthur 11.22.2005 18:25 If you want the xbox 360 go buy it already no one cares, why the hell should I be loyal to any company, I don't want the 360 period, all the xbox fanboys are jerks and if I have to hear them acting like that on live then I'll go crazy. Unregistered - Lobo 11.22.2005 18:30 Loyalty is overrated I just want the consoles for the games now and I haven't seen anything to convince me that it's worth buying a new console right now because it seems kinda bland. Unregistered - ss 11.22.2005 18:34 some sources say that sony is planing a simultaneous launch in the US & Japan in the Spring with shippemt to Europe a few months later. Lets just be paitient. I think now we can actually have civilized conversations without the anoyance of xbots. Unregistered - ss 11.22.2005 18:37 people just relax. This is just your anxiety taking ove. Ofcorse the xbox 360 looks nice, It's HD. But that doesn't mean that it's worth my money. I want the games and the quality. Microsoft doesn't have either one.Just be paitient and go play some games. Unregistered - Moe 11.22.2005 18:39 The X-Box 360 does look like is has some quality games out and coming out, but the seeing how the PSP is, I'm certain Sony will truly make a revolutionary entertainment machine, with graphics to take us top the next level. The Blu-Ray is an added bonus, that few will see the beauty in, until Blu-Ray movies start coming into the mainstream. That's why I like Sony, they are always one step AHEAD of the competition and the consumer benefits. That being said, my expectations are certainly high. Unregistered - Lobo 11.22.2005 18:50 You guys are right we can have some peace here, the Dvd format wars is almost over anyways it has 150 members right now and 12 more, hd-dvds have four and two of them are supporting hd-dvds and blu-ray so it should be over fast. Unregistered - rtfakktor 11.22.2005 18:50 i thank you for your input. and maybe i will by a 360 and a ps3. i am a big fan of playstation. but i am also a fan of technology which probably 99 percent of the people writing these comments are. waste your comments in a chat room on aol with the rest of the boys and girls. Unregistered - Lobo 11.22.2005 18:52 I checked this news website. Unregistered - Arthur 11.22.2005 18:56 Sorry buddy for acting like a jerk but I'm kinda edged out because of the flamming, well the PS3 does look promising but I wouldn't want to go on AOL because I really hate it when I have to argue with people. Unregistered - Arthur 11.22.2005 18:59 Technology does seem to be changing at a rapid pace, Linux already has 10% of MS market share already it seems to me they'll probably be the next big computer company in the future. Unregistered - rtfakktor 11.22.2005 19:01 my dad is bill gates Unregistered - Arthur 11.22.2005 19:03 I also read in international news that the Japanese Government is going to place the Linux OS program in public schools for computers, it seems to me that if this trend continues MS is going to end up like Apple. Unregistered - Moe 11.22.2005 19:06 You're right about technology growing at a rapid rate. The PSP taught me how out of touch I really was with some technology out there. I knew of wi-fi, but had never experienced it until the PSP. Sonic Stage also utilizes the PSP to it's fullest, by compressing songs,which I didn't use until the PSP. All in all, the PS3 sounds like it's ready in a big way to take us all well into the future of entertainment. Unregistered - amed 11.22.2005 19:32 Glad to hear the ps3 will be less than 400, now i can plan out my strategy of how many games and accessories i should get.. lol. Sony should've made this annoucment last Friday to take away xbox hype. I think that would have made xbox fan think twice before buyin the console. Unregistered - cbarker 11.22.2005 19:48 I just picked up my 360 last night, unfortunately i have to work so I cant play it right now, the little I did get to play was amazing, the graphics were so smooth and the sound was amazing. Now I am no fanboy at all, actually cant stand em. I plan on getting the ps3 as well just havent decided if going to do it at launch or wait a while, any ideas how much the ps3 games will come out at if they are using the blu-ray? Unregistered - rtfakktor 11.22.2005 19:56 last night on the xbox 360 special, experts were to have rumored with disconcern about the prices of ps3 games. these were not xbox boys, but a panel of developers and so and so. these games may reach 70-80 dollars. g4 is all about the 360 so i am sure you can catch a rerun of the show today, tommorow, next week, just like the mtv movies awards. wow. what a strange connection. Unregistered - ss 11.22.2005 20:10 I don't think that would have helped any. People who have their minds set on the 360 are going to purchase it no matter what. I juast hate how these people are so excited over first person shooter games. I'm so sick of them. That's all Microsoft knows how to make. out of 18 launch titles 5 of them were FPS. I guess that's what makes a hardcore gamer according to microsoft. Bill Gates 11.22.2005 20:19 Hey man That majorynos.com website vanished. LOL I don't know what happened. check it out. I whent to it after you posted the site. It was actually a fun site to go to. The guy was funny. He did have some good points though. Although some where a little over the top. Anyways, he made one last post and all the posts have been deleted. I think something happened here. What's your take on it? Unregistered - Dee 11.22.2005 20:52 Not one store in my city has them sold out. I knew that would happen because im waiting on the PS3. I know a bunch of serious gamers and they are not planning on buying the 360. Sony has a larger fan base, but there are alot of people who are buying both. It will be a great lose for the PS3 to sell it for even $500. But of course everyone here knows that these companys make there money off of software not hardware. There job is to get it into our homes, and there set for the next 4-5 years. Unregistered - dsd 11.22.2005 21:03 you know the more I look at the pics of MGS4 and see an old snake with a mustache, the more I think the look is fitting for the game. I'm liking the new look and i can't wait for the game to be out. Although I don't see this happening until some time in march or so in 2007. oh well Unregistered - ss 11.22.2005 21:59 This has nothing to do with the news post but i'll say it anyways. For anyone judging that Killzone 2 will not look even close to what was shown at E3 2005 I say they're fools. I was looking at the game BLACK for the current gen. systems PS2 & xbox and this game looks just as crazy. Killzone can, and will look just as good as what was shown. Unregistered - BillGatesSucks 11.22.2005 23:39 That bundle mentioned in the article sounds promising, and $399 doesn't sound bad for a next gen game system/next gen DVD player. I just hope Sony can handle the backwards compatability problem better than MS did (I don't want to lose my catalogue of PS2 games). Oh, and to rtfakktor in post #5, DVD format is going to make a big difference especially in gaming. Current dual layer DVDs, which is what the xbox 360 is using, can only store about 9 gigs of info where are a blu-ray DVD can store about 50 gigs. And MS has stated that even if later 360s are built with HD DVD (the format they were initially going to use) their games won't support the format, it will just be for movies. So, MS is going to be compressing their games a lot, which makes for in play slow downs if the system is constantly decompressing. Whereas the PS3, using the blu-ray, won't suffer from that problem. Developers love lots of space/memory, so who do you think they'll like developing for more? Unregistered - amed 11.23.2005 01:25 Although the blue ray will be expensive when it first arrive due to publishers and developers upgrading their equipments, it will all be worth it at the end. Every thinh starts off expensive at start and eventually goes down after 6 months or so. Microsoft is making a bad move by stayin with DVD now and upgrading to HD-Dvd later on. Even though they said HD-DVD wont be used for gaminng, alot of people who purchased x360 prior to the upgrade will surely suffer and be dissappionted. How would you feel if your newly x360 cant playin movies because its HD-dvd? Furious 11.23.2005 01:33 I'm not sure what happened to the site? I believe the guy was a journalist so perhaps he received pressure to take down the site since it was sort of one sided... I do have another theory; Perhaps Microsoft bought the company hosting the site and took down the server... Microsoft usually tries to buy their way out of troubled ;-0 Vivicious 11.23.2005 07:18 "Comments published in a CNN article yesterday purporting to be from Sony CEO Howard Stringer regarding the planned pricing for PlayStation 3 have been removed after it emerged that he had not said anything on the question." "Stringer has not commented publicly on how much the PS3 is expected to cost, or how soon it will appear in the US after the Japanese launch in spring 2006." http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=61856 I guess it was too good to be true. =P Webmaster, can you please update this thread? Or add a new one? Vivicious 11.23.2005 08:28 Thanks for the quick update guys, prevents confusion. Unregistered - kolopy 11.23.2005 10:29 PS3 $600 ohhhhhhhhh i can see fanboi's all over the world crying into their soup. Unregistered - amed 11.23.2005 10:47 suxs that the 400 price tag turned out to be false. lets just hope that sony witness our reaction and have decided to got with 400. IF not, why Sony, why????? Unregistered - rtfakktor 11.23.2005 10:49 everyone will forget the 360 then ps3 comes out. the ps3 will probably do their first generation games the right way instead of hurrying titles to the shelves. take a look at the 360 madden nfl 2006. what a joke. tecmo bowl in high def. Unregistered - rtfakktor 11.23.2005 10:49 everyone will forget the 360 then ps3 comes out. the ps3 will probably do their first generation games the right way instead of hurrying titles to the shelves. take a look at the 360 madden nfl 2006. what a joke. tecmo bowl in high def. Unregistered - rtfakktor 11.23.2005 10:49 everyone will forget the 360 then ps3 comes out. the ps3 will probably do their first generation games the right way instead of hurrying titles to the shelves. take a look at the 360 madden nfl 2006. what a joke. tecmo bowl in high def. Unregistered - OBLIVION 11.23.2005 12:14 Xbox 360 will be better.(1)Sony dont keep their promises.they promised you online play similar to xbox live and now they tell you that the ps3 will have simalar crappy online play to the ps2.(2)Xbox 360 will have better games.Halo 3,Oblivion,fable 2,star wars K.O.T.O.R 3,PERFECT DARK ZERO,GHOST RECON.The list goes on and on and on.(3)XBOX LIVE!!(4)No matter what sony say graphics will be roughly the same between the 2 consoles.(5)If you lived in the U.S.A (i dont) you could be playing it right now instead of the ps2.(6)Ps3 WILL be WELL over 400 .(7)This blu-ray thing you keep on bragging about only plays dvds.dvd players are used for that and im sure that most of you have one of them.(8)no one has ever played a ps3. Ps3 will be good but not as good as you think it is. Furious 11.23.2005 12:33 Here's another thought regarding the Major Ynos site: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1891782,00.asp Kind of interested, but perhaps we are all putting too much thought into this one... Peace Unregistered - FU Microslut 11.23.2005 12:41 Why doesn’t this site check their sources before post things like this? It’s funny how allot of rumors are going around about the PS3. Microsoft will stop at nothing to sabotash the PS3 launch. You don’t here of negative rumors towards Nintendo because they know they are not the real threat. F.U. Microsoft, the PS3 will succeed so quit spreading lies. I will no longer support Microsoft. I’m sure they’re behind all these rumors. Dark Samurai 11.23.2005 12:48 http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27898 Bill Gates 11.23.2005 12:59 Thanks allot man that was realy intersting. Microsoft is made up of a bunch of theives. Bill Gates 11.23.2005 13:07 LOL... Man that's crazy. There must be quite a few unhappy gamers out there. I when on xbox live last night to see what people thought of the 360, and didn't come across a single person that cared for it. It realy surprised me. Dark Samurai 11.23.2005 13:10 apparently team xbox started a poll. Very small sample but 15% of xbox 360's are freezing. It will be interesting to see what happens to the percentage as the sample grows. http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/23/138200&from=rss jeez, this can become a major problem for Microsoft. This is the consequence of rushing to launch. They should launch it at 2006 with HD-DVD support and better games like Oblivion and GOW. This is a catastrophic launch. Havoc 11.23.2005 13:28 I know SONY is paying close attention, analyzing what Ms is doing right and doing wrong. Furious 11.23.2005 14:55 Here's another hub for PS3 info: http://www.ps3updates.qj.net/atom.xml Take a look... Vivicious 11.23.2005 15:11 Nah, every piece of electronics from toasters to consoles has a certain percentage of products that are DoA (Dead on Arrival), on average above 0,5%. Looking at what they plan on selling this year (3 million) it should be pretty normal if 15,000 consoles are DoA. This would still be completely normal for a launch, anything above that and they better start worrying. We had this big blown up problem with the PS2 at launch if anyone remembers, also turned out in the end to be a small percentage. Vivicious 11.23.2005 15:15 Man, that article kind of pisses me off. Sony is as bad and as sneaky as MS, both initiatives (MS with their OS and Sony with Ynos) are typical backstabbing business practices, I guess I expected more from Sony, but of course they're going to be doing the same things. #41 Huh? Did you read the article? It's showing how Sony is "made up of a bunch of thieves", though that is of course bs for either company. Unregistered - Nosferatu 11.23.2005 15:15 Man I didn't see that coming MS should have waited to make sure the 360 worked properly, ah well that stuff happens when you rush your product on the market before checking it. Dark Samurai 11.23.2005 16:00 I know.Always there is a little problem, nothing is perfect.But it looks much more than 0.5%, i saw people complaining about this problem yesterday at xbox360news.com. by the way, did you get one? if you did, tell us about it. Bill Gates 11.23.2005 18:13 Yes I did read the article. Did you? "Is Microsoft Up to Some New Tricks?" is the title of the article. From my understanding the article is talking about how Microsoft (maybe) created the site majorynos.com to do a little reverse psychology combined with the general nuttiness of online communities. The article reads “Some years back, Microsoft practiced a lot of dirty tricks using online mavens to go into forums and create Web sites extolling the virtues of Windows over OS/2. They were dubbed the Microsoft Munchkins, and it was obvious who they were and what they were up to. But their numbers and energy (and they way they joined forces with nonaligned dummies who liked to pile on) proved too much for IBM marketers, and Windows won the operating-system war through fifth-column tactics. Over time, many of the facts about these tricks were revealed, and ethical considerations have essentially removed these practices from Microsoft's marketing strategies. But what about using the opposite approach—becoming the white hat? Think about tricks used in political campaigns where you set up a phony shop for your opponent and then use that front to make your opponent look like a complete idiot. If done correctly you come out smelling like a rose—a good guy.” ……and than it reads this Vivicious “The majority in the blog defend Microsoft to an extreme and blast Ynos as an idiot and a shill for Sony. There are so many negative comments about Ynos and his posts that you come away with at least six thoughts: 1) Ynos is unfair and perhaps a stooge/shill for Sony; 2) Sony must be behind all this bashing; 3) What did Microsoft do to deserve this?; 4) Commentators are seeing through this scam; 5) Commentators seem to like the Xbox; 6) Commentators are smarter than Ynos.” “I see all this as part of a unique marketing scheme using grassroots tricks and techniques. Microsoft is better known than Sony for doing or attempting to do this. The company even hired Ralph Reed to help them with this sort of thing. Can Karl Rove be far behind?” Now like the article says I too am not certain as to who is responsible for the site. But my guess would be Microsoft using reverse psychology tricks like the article says. My conclusion to saying that Microsoft is a bunch of thieves didn’t derive from reading the article but from past experiences with the company. They work like a bunch of used car salesmen trying to reel the customer in no matter the cost. Take their money, only to walk away with a grin on their faces. Now I ask you again did You, read the article? And actually understood it? Or perhaps we’re both referring to different articles here. Unregistered - addict 11.23.2005 18:36 The research comes from Sabine Gr?sser of the Charit? University Medicine Berlin, in Germany, who claims to show similarities between 'learned' addictive patterns of drug users and games players. They compared 15 heavy games-playing men, with 15 who play games, but also enjoy other social activities. All were shown visual cues to a variety of activities. They showed little reaction. But the games players showed "classic signs of craving" according to The New Scientist, when shown screenshots of popular games. In another test, the games players showed more significant eye-muscle contractions to game-related images than the controls. Gr?sser claims the games players are using their activity for a dopamine fix. "It’s the same mechanism in all addicts," she said. Unregistered - cbarker 11.23.2005 19:50 I actually have two 360's and have not had a problem out of either one, and i have played COD 2, Madden, Tiger woods, Kameo, King Kong, Project Gotham Racing, and nba 2k6. All things smooth here so far. I bought a premium that was reserved back in May and then my wife ordered a core from circuit city website (they sold out of premiums but i figure hey i have a detachable hard drive I dont need two) and have not had any issues out of either one. Unregistered - uh oh 11.23.2005 19:55 I know if I was one of these few people I would be rip-sh!t. http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3145847 Unregistered - uh oh 11.23.2005 20:04 There's even lamps for telling when the machine get too hot. I didn't know the xbox360 had this until now. A feature like this should send out a red flag immediately. It's kinda worrying too. I think I'm going to wait a while before jumping on this wagon. Unregistered - woody 11.23.2005 20:29 I guess there's alot of 360 owners knocking on wood right about know by the sounds of things. scary. Microsoft is said to be making a statement soon. Unregistered - DaGamer 11.23.2005 21:15 man Xbox360 sucks bigtime, they just released and have overheating problems, lol. I will wait for the PS 3 cause the console is much more powerful with better technology and the games are better. Some boxfan was praising Call of Duty 2 and thats the problem. Unlike Sony, Microsoft doesn't have enough good exclusive games and I get most and better on the PC, just like Call of Duty and the other stuff. If you got a good PC buying Xbox360 is nonsense. Can't wait for the new Gran Turismos, Resident Evils, Devil May Cries, Tekkens, etc, etc, etc...PS 3 RULEZZZZZZ AND STRIKES BACK AGAIN TO OWN THIS GAME OF VIDEOGAMES !!!!!!!! Unregistered - MGS_fanatico_ 11.23.2005 21:29 Wouldn't it be great if it was a world-wide launch? And for that prize I will truly get it on launch time(Whenever that is...) For those who claim that the x360 is a better console, I just have to say, wait and see, without being harsh.(I just can't wait for games like MGS4, FF7 remake, if they make the game that is, and many, many others:D) Unregistered - undisputed2k6 11.24.2005 00:26 I've had my 360 system for 2 days now and have been playing it for over 5 to 6 hrs at a time. No problems here. It has been working like a charm. Yes, I'm a fanboy of both systems so I'm not biased. But I know all of you remember PS2 and their D.R.E.'s (DISC READ ERROR) problem. This was a problem for certain models. Point is no console is ever perfect when it comes out. That’s why u buy a warranty. So far I am thankful mine runs fine. But you can't reject a system because of a few bad apples. That will always be the case when humans are the ones who develop them. Till then, enjoy! P.S. - Madden 06 on x360 is da bomb but I rather EA took another month or 2 to add all the features rather than trying to hurry for launch day. But the game play is better and challenging as ever.... peace... Unregistered - ace3081 11.24.2005 00:48 (Late Post) They just refined the manufacturing processes for the blue-ray roms and the estimated price to manufacture one is only a couple dollors more than a dvd, so I don't see the PS3 games being any pricer than the Xbox 360's. Unregistered - BLA 11.24.2005 01:32 yea if theres a light to warn you when its over heating that should tell you right there....ITS GOING TO OVERHEAT!!! Unregistered - Ultimate PS3 Fan 11.24.2005 01:59 I guarentee you all that PS3 games will be hitting the market at $59.99 everywhere here in the U.S. Besides it is the perfect price for Next-gen games. So it's $10 more than new PS2 games for extremely hyped graphics,detail,storyline and all. Unregistered - Nosferatu 11.24.2005 03:12 I don't really care which consoles better anymore, I just want the ps3 for the games now, if I see anything on the 360 I might buy it, but I think I'm comfortable with the ps3 for the time being. Unregistered - Nosferatu 11.24.2005 03:35 The fact of the matter is I think it isn't a good idea to be selling a new console to people when it starts crashing, yeah it happend to the ps2 but I mean after a few days this happened I mean come on. Well I have no right to complain since I haven't bought the 360, but if this thing gets out of hand it could be a problem for MS, I'm just saying this as person not a fanboy. Dark Samurai 11.24.2005 04:25 http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27901 Unregistered - rtfakktor 11.24.2005 05:52 they have to have some more interesting news than this. why are they holding out. yes the intial 360 launch has problems. yes the intial ps3 will have problems. yes we are bored of the 360 news. Unregistered - Nosferatu 11.24.2005 08:54 Yeah this site is starting to get on my nerves it's not that informaitve and I'm starting to question if all the things on this site is really realiable or true I think I'll stick to IGN or some other sites from now on. Peace Unregistered - Nosferatu 11.24.2005 09:26 (Final Post) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3 "Sony has recently revealed that the online service for the PlayStation 3 will use the same non-unified architecture as that of the PlayStation 2. In the latest issue of the Official PlayStation Magazine, Sony scotched rumors that it would be implementing a centralized online service similar to Microsoft’s Xbox Live. Instead, online services for PS3 games will be decentralized and left up to individual game publishers. While this will give games publishers greater freedom in terms of what they are able to offer online, some say it may make it more difficult for Sony to control the quality of the online experience. Dentralized online services means that gamers will be required to maintain separate accounts on different servers for different games in order to access online games via the PS3 but will have the advantage of being able to choose which games or services they actually want. Sony has not confirmed any information on the way they will do online. All this is speculation from people or retrieved from a magazine. One thing we can look at for what PS3 may be is the PSP." I got this off Wikepeda, Sonys Online plan is Unknown if you guys have any sense it would be a good idea to go find other sites that has relevent info because all this arguing is getting boring and annoying. Well Good Luck to Everyone on the console of choice. Unregistered - rtfakktor 11.24.2005 11:03 whos the real turkey in the console wars? Unregistered - hmmmm 11.24.2005 11:55 Well I got a 360 and have had no such problems with mine. I have Pgr3 and Cod2 and both are increadible. Im sure its in the typical percintile of DOA's on launch electronics. Its just that no one cares if your new toaster shorts out but a new game system is a big deal so it tends to get blown a little out of proportion. There will also be such DOA's for the PS3 and im sure both MS and Sony will replace all faulty units. Its just a matter of being one of the unlucky ones. Unregistered - oblivion 11.24.2005 11:59 #56 is full of bulls..t. I am going to get both consoles but xbox 360 has well better exclusives.games to be released soon include Halo 3,Fable 2, Ghost recon advanced warfighter,Perfect dark zero (out now),Kameo (out now),Elder scrolls Oblivion,ninety nine nights,and the grand theft auto like Saints row.You can enjoy your stupid Teken and overated Metal Gear Solid.Ps3 will still be unbeliveable but so is the xbox 360. Unregistered - Lynol 11.24.2005 12:49 All right xbox fanboys everyone doesn't care about your opinions anymore so shut already go play your system and yeah the 360 will be good but theirs no need to come here anymore if you have what you want. Unregistered - Arthur 11.24.2005 13:05 Hold up so all this Ps3 live thing was a damn rumour and Sony hasn't chosen the way they'll do online, the people who run this site need to get actual inforamtion because this is getting ridiculous. Unregistered - Zeek 11.24.2005 13:18 Halo 2 sucked man and Fable for the pc version was better I think you need to get some air buddy because your no better than that guy because you were gulliable enough to believe the ps3 live thing and run your mouth about the ps3. Now that I think about they haven't announced their online plan, WTF is going on with the Webmaster and the editors. Unregistered - PS3playa 11.24.2005 13:18 Youa are totaly upto your own oppionion, the thing is, the real fast is PS3 has the best games, FACT, so go play these better games on your over priced machine, no one gives a damn, If I wanted X360 I would have one now, thing is I dont, simply because the games dont appeal to me, the |AI is cr*p the character animation is cr*a and eevn in some reviews the framerate is cr*p, I'll wait for PS3, which has the true next gen games with better gameplay and true Hi def, none of this upsampleing from 480P to 720p hi def, no one cares on here apart from you, enjoy your X360, and leave us true gamers alone, till PS3 arrives. Unregistered - Arthur 11.24.2005 13:35 Xbox fanboys here's the thing consoles are expensive and all these rumours are swirling around, we want our system and you guys want your system, seriously go play your games already, If I had the ps3 I wouldn't be here. Unregistered - HDTV 11.24.2005 14:18 while you guys are here arguing like little b!tches, I've been researching which HDTV I will be purchasing in a few months when it goes down in price. So that I'll be ready to play my PS3 and xbox 360 when it's also cheaper. later biatches! Unregistered - Arthur 11.24.2005 14:22 I can't deal with this anymore Sony fans I'm going to leave because all this arguing is pointless and I don't want to argue with xbox fanboys about who made the better console. Bye Unregistered - To Much 11.24.2005 17:19 To the guys who are loyal to MS you guys can go to hell my xbox 360 crashed alright, I had to wait in line for days and it froze after an hour when I played it, I worked hard for that money and theirs no excuse for that. Unregistered - gev1l 11.24.2005 17:34 Just to make a little point about the whole blu ray making such a big difference for gaming. FF7 was on cd, not dvd and that game was huge. Now I know you are all going to say that the data is bigger for the new generation of games, but realisticly it is not any differnet of a situation with xbox360 games. If all of the data cant fit on one disk whats the solutin: more than one disk. It's notthat hard and if ff7 did back than, i cant see it being a big deal now. Besisdes if anyone argues that changing disks ruijned the experiance, you sir are a tard. More importantly if having to change disks is such a travesty than I suggest you put the controller down, get of your fat lazy ass, and go do something physical. Having to change disks is not an issue. Oh by the way after seeing call of duty 2 on x360 I can believe that killzone 2 will at least move like the e3 video. Call of duty 2 best shooter ever. PS To the cryer who said he can't stand pepole liking fps . You know what I dont like, whing twats like yourself that have to go on about how much they hate how much other people like something. Whats the matter, are you jealous that people can actually like something without their peers permission? Get a life bud and stop doing what I'm doing: yapping about other peoples likes and dislikes PPS the moderator is pretty strict about words yoiu can and cant use. No female do in heat allowed? come on guys Unregistered - DaGamer 11.24.2005 17:38 LOL #70 half of the games you named are available on PC and Halo, Perfect Dark etc. you can keep for yourself, I got a powerful PC and get way better FPS there. Face the truth Xboxnuts, your console just doesn't have such great games like PS 3 will have and 90% of your stuff I get on PC buahaha Unregistered - Mathew 11.24.2005 17:42 Seem like there is an Industrial Revolution on video games right now. GameCube most like to stay out of it. Playstation 3 (Sony) and Xbox 360 (Microsoft) like to against eachother. Xbox (regular first one) was better than Playstation 2. It's is because of Graphic. Now, Playstation 3 will have 50MHz (kind of graphic) better than Xbox360. Let's see next Playstation 4 V.S. Xbox "Part 3" But hey! Just get Xbox 360 or Playstation 3 and enjoy for rest of 3 and half years! I support Playstation (Sony) the best! ---KR3W--- Unregistered - DaGamer 11.24.2005 17:44 #79 I can play this game on PC and even also some better FPS hehe Retard 11.24.2005 19:41 Elder scrolls Oblivion (PC), Halo (PC), and well; how can you truely state any of those are going to be exclusives? GTA++ ETC. where suppose to be exclusive to PS2 only. (they later came out on Xbox PC.....) Well ! Yeah ! I suppose the ability of PS3 will have some good exclusives considering Blu-ray's size...dual layer (50-55gbits) We can't forget the Revolution though! (Mircosoft - software company; Sony Hardware+ Electronic Company; Nintendo - Gaming Console Company) Unregistered - Havle 11.25.2005 03:32 I read this that Rock Star claims they're making GTA 4 primarily for the ps3, it's probably true considering they said that at E3, found the link on that Wikepedea site. Well the the 360 does have that Saint Row game, heres the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_4 Unregistered - Halve 11.25.2005 03:39 Seems it's true http://ps3.ign.com/articles/614/614665p1.html Unregistered - ninja0327 11.25.2005 10:31 guess again ps3 loyalsts. xbox360 is gonna use the 9 gig dvd but so is nintendo so movie companies are on sony's side on blu ray dvd format but in gaming dept MS and nintedo are on the same page on dvd format and they's a reason for it, such as how the how the hardware works.sony is using blu ray to bring it in the market and if you look back at sony's history they've always tried to force there products "Sony has historically been notable for creating its own in-house standards for new recording and storage technologies instead of adopting those of other manufacturers and standards bodies." link: http://www.answers.com/sony so it should come as no suprise. generally speaking in the gaming dept its 2 against 1 on the dvd format but because its M$ you say there're doomed to be the dreamcastbut but let me tell you something MS would rather accept defeat than quit ,they invested a lot on the xbox360 and have more money. but sega were unlucky because of htere low budgets peace Unregistered - poopmouth 11.25.2005 12:03 judging by your posts, im impressed that half of you even know how to use a computer.... i mean come on, i think i may actually be getting dumber by reading some of these posts...c'mon people, step it up... Unregistered - Jay Kill 11.25.2005 14:17 I would pay $600 for the ps3 personally, it dont really matter, your going to get a great system, made with great quality, and has a drive that plays blue-ray discs. PS3er's will be the first to have these! (P.S. - Blue-Ray is the future of disc media!) Unregistered - Zeek 11.25.2005 14:35 Some of these comments are starting to get ridiculous especially this ninja guy common stop acting like you know everying, it's embarrassing trying to guess how much space blu-rays have when they've already annonced the space for them. Unregistered - Zeek 11.25.2005 14:39 Some of these comments are starting to get ridiculous especially this ninja guy common stop acting like you know everything, it's embarrassing trying to guess how much space blu-rays have when they've already annonced the space for them. Unregistered - Zeek 11.25.2005 14:41 Well I'll be back in January. Until Next Year. Unregistered - kolopy 11.25.2005 15:42 -- Deleted by Mod -- PAUL CERULA 11.25.2005 15:46 YEAHHH I've had an Xbox 360 since launch with PDZ and its so sweet. The graphics do in fact beat any PC out there, trust me i've seen the best and newext in action. I wish MS would of advertised more but I quess they just didn't want to dissapoint anyone cause of their limited launch console amounts. This is good enough. So PS3 in the spring huh.... I thought they would release it in 2007 or christmas 2006. But whatever, if they would of done that Sony would take an even bigger loss. I'm excited to see that console vs. the 360. Oh and the controller is amazing, definately the best one out in the market. I'm still unsure/dissapointed on sony's pick but we'll see. They could of reshaped the dual shock and make their controller just as sweet as MS's. The best thing about the new MS controller is how you can roll your trigger finger up to bump the button above it. So you only have one finger on that side of the controller for 2 buttons. As for Sony releasing the ps3 below 400 I strongly dissagree. They will put the ps3 at 400$ with the console and controller. No hard feelings to you xbox 360 fanboys or sony fanboys. I've made my choice intelligently based on functions and games. PERFORMANCE IS NOT AN ISSUE SINCE IT'S SO CLOSE BETWEEN THE TWO. Unregistered - rtfakktor 11.25.2005 15:48 all these postings are getting out of hand. almost 100 posts? there has to be something other than gigs, blu ray, and first person shooter games. too much speculation. not enough information. Unregistered - Lao 11.25.2005 16:03 All this argueing isn't getting anywhere this site is only meant to attract ignorant fanboys who don't know anything. Unregistered - paul 11.25.2005 16:25 "the future of media storage is HDD you noob, blu-ray will suck." lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol!! and you believe this crap from that mad old bill? he is out of his mind and all the industry is laughing at him.you call us fanatics and then believe any stupid remark from the old freak! are you going to put all of your games on that pathetic 20 GB HDD? or what? buying 50 HDDs for 5000$? AHH..., i heard your precious xflop overheats and crashes! oh boy! Microsoft keeps the tradition. XFLOP CRASHES LIKE WINDOWS, MS the master of crash. Unregistered - oblivion 11.25.2005 20:02 there hasnt been news for dayswhats up wih that. Unregistered - bleep 11.25.2005 23:17 Sony will be better. I got a 360 at midnight and it kept freezing up. yeah the graphics were good. but i dont think they will be as good as the ps3. Sure everyone is hyped up about the xbox 360 but you know what they say good things(ps3) are worth waiting for. I'm a 360 owner and if you want my advice wait for the ps3. Unregistered - BillGatesSucks 11.26.2005 02:16 ...the xbox 360 being called the ice box. Hilarious. Ah, Billy...you really blew it big time. Webmaster 11.26.2005 05:25 Sorry about the lack of news updates but we are working on a new feature on the site that will go live shortly, which is going to be huge improvment for the site when it comes to keeping up with PS3 news. Unregistered - amed 11.26.2005 14:01 sorry to be nosie but could you give a preview or a sneak peak on the new features, im really starving for ps3 news Unregistered - rtfakktor 11.26.2005 17:05 please tell someone at playstation to speak about the ps3. i am tired of the 360 news. i am tired of the fanboys. i am tired of the wannabe fanboys or the fanboys who post here. anything would be nice. Unregistered - BillGatesSucks 11.26.2005 17:42 These specs were forwarded to me and I thought I'd share them with everyone here. Drool. Product name: PlayStation 3 Logo: PLAYSTATION(R)3 CPU Cell Processor PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz to 4.0GHz (depending on application) 1 VMX vector unit per core 512KB L2 cache 7 x SPE @3.2GHz 7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs 7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE * 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS GPU RSX @550MHz 1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines Sound Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell- base processing) Memory 256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz System Bandwidth Main RAM 25.6GB/s VRAM 22.4GB/s RSX 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read) SB< 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read) System Floating Point Performance 2 TFLOPS Storage Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1 I/O USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0) Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1 SD standard/mini x 1 CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1 Communication Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2) Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR) Controller Bluetooth (up to 7) USB 2.0 (wired) Wi-Fi (PSP) Network (over IP) AV Output Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p HDMI: HDMI out x 2 Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1 Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1 Disc Media CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side) DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE Unregistered - Lao 11.26.2005 19:40 Can we get some news soon or what all the fanboys who come here to post are getting on my nerves, especially the x-zealots who don't know when to shut up, it's like they have nothing better to do than guess what Sony's doing. Unregistered - amed 11.26.2005 20:43 lol yo need to take a chil pile, i can hook u up with some but u gotta be a fanboy.. lol Unregistered - Former Ps2 fan 11.26.2005 20:46 Don't let brand loyalty slap you in the face. Did everyone forget the "quality" Sony has put out at both launches?? I purchased a PS1 and Ps2 at launch. My Ps1 stopped reading discs after about 6 months and what did Sony tell me to do, FLIP THE DAMN THING OVER. Yeah, that's quality alright. Flip your console over to allow it to play games. My PS2 stopped ejecting discs after about a year. Sent it in for repairs. A friend of mine had to send his Ps2 in after about 6 motnhs because his stopped reading discs. 3 years later and it's down for the count, again. For what you ask? Not reading discs again. So all this crap talk about quality is ridiculous. I've had several other sony products in my home throughout teh years that have crapped out within a year and a half. Because of that, the only Sony product in my home is the Ps2. With that said, I'm no fan of the Xbox. But, Microsoft has a damn good plan. They're stealing the market right out from under Sony. It's pathetic the leader in the video game industry is struggling to get their system out of development and into the market. If Sony announces a Spring '06 release for Japan, you can bet your bottom dollar that we wont see it until Winter '06. Bill Gates and his weasels will have nearly a full year of "monopalistic" power. Then when Sony gets off their collective asses and launches the Ps3 teh Gates clan will slash the price of the 360. Sony is counting on fan loyalty, plain and simple, to carry them out of the starting gates. I wont wait 12 months to get into the next generation of gaming. Bill Gates may get my money if Sony thinks I will..... Havoc 11.26.2005 22:42 Thank you comment 106 we needed somebody to heat this site up. I can't help but to think that you're a m$ fanboy if you think they will steal the market right out from under Sony. Both companies are relying on thier dedicated fans to push their console but you only rely "heavily" on the loyal fans if you know the console your putting out is garbage. Even though sony fan base is bigger, M$ will have to rely more on thier loyal fans than sony. I do agree thats it's a good plan for M$ to come out early, but it's not a good plan if people care more about the ps3 than they do the 360 even if the 360 luanched first. Well actually it is a good plan because the only chance M$ got is for them to luanch first. Nobody's not going to care about a price cut for the 360 when the ps3 comes out. Money is not an issue, Just like nobody really cares about the core package for the 360, people will spend the extra money for whats better. But hey, nobody's forcing you to wait 6 to 12 months to get into the next generation of gaming. Unregistered - Former Ps2 Fan 11.26.2005 23:53 I am FAR from being a Microsoft fanboy, my friend. believe it or not, I have only played the Xbox 1 time, and that was a very short game of Madden '05. I was eagerly awaiting the Ps3 until I found out how Sony has been scratching their asses about releasing factual information on what will be the Ps3's internals. By that time, the Xbox360 was in full development. I agree with your comment about Sony having way more fans. This early release by MS is aimed at them. With a 12 month timetable possibly occurring before Ps3 launch, how can you not jump ship? Only the Sony fanboys will wait. Unregistered - amed 11.27.2005 11:34 i would say the wait it over, i dont expect any Sony fans to buy an x360 after all of what happened last wk ( shortage of stocks, long waiting for nothing and crashes of the console). infact, some m$ may be doubthin whether to buy an x360 during the coming month or wait for ps3. What Sony needs to do right now is give more info about the ps3 to establish more solid grounds for their launch. Unregistered - DaGamer 11.27.2005 14:39 How can you not jump ship? Very easy for me, cause I wanna play the real next gen games and in the meantime I will play most of Xbox360 stuff on my powerful PC hehe Unregistered - bryan 11.27.2005 21:52 if u remember the ps2 had this same freaking scare people were saying it will cost $800 and it was 3 so i wouldnt worry it will be the same thing Patrick 11.27.2005 22:42 Well where to begin? First to #86 who said "so movie companies are on sony's side on blu ray dvd format but in gaming dept MS and nintedo are on the same page on dvd format and they's a reason for it, such as how the how the hardware works" So ...um, what does that mean? Havent got a clue. Yes Sony does have a huge amount of support from Movie studios, but what does Ms and Nintendo have to do with this, did you mean to say game developers would rather use dvd format than Blu-ray...? wow you were pretty pointless werent you. But let me answer your ...question or remark or what ever that was. It seems alot of xbox gamers dont actually think with their brains or just dont read or something. See the thing about Blu-ray is that it will actually alos play dvd and cd, so if Game developers dont need the space or want to make games on a Blu-ray disc then they dont have to. WOW, didnt know that? Yep its true, thats why its backwards compatable with PS2 and PS1. But if developers want to add in extras or make a bigger, longer game they can just put it on a Blu-ray disc and have all the room they need. With Nintendo and MS sadly they have no choice, shorten the game or have 2 disc. Now number 93, our old friend whos says alot of nothing, Spartan said "So PS3 in the spring huh.... I thought they would release it in 2007 or christmas 2006. But whatever, if they would of done that Sony would take an even bigger loss." Done what exactly? Done, like already happened? Nope Ps3 isnt out yet and Spring 2006 isnt here. So I am guessing you mean if they bring it out in the Spring they will take a loss. Yes they will, MS took one to. So what? Now as far as 2007, no I dont think so. See Blu-ray is expected to Launch in Spring of 2006....wait, hey that sounds familier, hasnt Sony said Ps3 will launch Spring of 2006, What a coincidence, or is it? See Sony is invested big time with both PS3 and Blu-ray. A major selling point for Blu-ray (to movies studios) is that it will be on PS3 at the launch of Blu-ray. And like wise Blu-ray is a major selling point for the PS3. So it would only make sense for Ps3 to come out during the same time as Blu-ray so it will help Blu-ray beat Hd-dvd into homes and there by get all the support from the Movies companies, many of which have said that Ps3 is their main reason for supporting Blu-ray. So I truly expect Ps3 to launch in Spring of 06, Japan may go first but I dont think US will be but a few weeks behind it if that. Spartan also said "Oh and the controller is amazing, definately the best one out in the market. I'm still unsure/dissapointed on sony's pick but we'll see. They could of reshaped the dual shock and make their controller just as sweet as MS's. The best thing about the new MS controller is how you can roll your trigger finger up to bump the button above it. So you only have one finger on that side of the controller for 2 buttons." Thats how I play the Dual shock Now, dont think PS3 will be any different, just more comfortable. I do have a finger up for you though.(not the trigger finger) "As for Sony releasing the ps3 below 400 I strongly dissagree. They will put the ps3 at 400$ with the console and controller. No hard feelings to you xbox 360 fanboys or sony fanboys. I've made my choice intelligently based on functions and games. PERFORMANCE IS NOT AN ISSUE SINCE IT'S SO CLOSE BETWEEN THE TWO" I lumped those 2 comments together just to say How do you know? Price? they havent given a price, but if its more than the Xbox, I say its worth it and will buy it for a true Next generation Machine. Performance? Its so close, How do you know. If you go by what has been shown then sure, the xbox has less performance than the Ps3, If you look at what the future will bring with games being put on Blu-ray disc so space isnt a problem and Cell being able to handle graphics and other processing that other components also do. Then again sure the xbox will still not handle the performance of the PS3. Finally, Number 108, I have but one thing to say. Your an idiot. Nuff said, he made less sense than Spartan and thats not saying much. Sony will give news when they are ready, I dont think their worried about 360 or they would have spoken up by now and tried to steal 360 business. But they know what they have and MS is just a speed bump in the road to Ruling the Game industry once again. Dont forget, The Future is Blu. Unregistered - Former Ps2 fan... 11.28.2005 01:19 Hey jackass why don't you try comprehending things when reading before spurting out that ignorant pie hole. It's no secret Sony has had problems producing the "Cell" processor and the RSX chip or whatever the hell it's called and it won't be finalized until late Nov/early Dec. So what does that tell you? The damn Ps3 isn't even close to coming out of development. How many next gen game consoles are on the market? Last I counted ONE. What does that tell you about market share? If you have an ounce of intelligence you'd know MS has full control of the current market. That's a killer to every game system producing company, not just Sony. I don't know which console will be better. It won't be known until the Ps3 hits stores. Even then, does it really matter?? If the Ps3 has more to offer in terms of GAMING EXPERIENCE I will be happy to spend the money on one. Until then, why wait? Why justify your waiting with the silliness of brand loyalty?? That was my whole point. Unregistered - poopmouth 11.28.2005 01:48 man, you crack me up..."why wait", are you serious, bro?? why wait? i'll tell you why. Cuz, i dont know, maybe people dont want to dish out 4 or 5 hundred dollars for a upgraded xbox. oh, and maybe because they want to play games that are truely next gen, cuz every decent game out for that overhyped xbox can be bought for your computer... hmmm... i can keep goin, kid. theres blu-ray (which you know is the future of movies/gaming, stop being ignorant), oh and not to mention that it is undeniably more powerful than the 360. now, settle down, play your games, be happy, and remember where the hell youre at... Unregistered - Former Ps2 fan... 11.28.2005 02:05 I agree with you. Dishing out $400-$500 is not feasible everytime a new console comes out. Waiting may be the best thing for everyone. I apologize to anyone I've offended. This will be my last post. Unregistered - MadClay 11.28.2005 02:38 I had a Sega Saturn that I had to trade in for a PS1. I got a Dreamcast which I eventually traded up for a PS2. And when MS brougt out the Xbox, I bought one for its capabilities for online services and the harddrive. And before all of these consoles, there was my Atari 2600, my Colecovision, NES, and on, and on. My point? I love all games. Even the PC. I just bought the 360. I love the new additions to Xbox Live they have made, and all of the games I have look and play sweet. I had problems when I bought the original Xbox and the PS2. Disc Read Errors, weird freezing problems, color me angry for all of those. Upon reading more about the problem, it looks like it may be a power source over heating. Have you seen the enormous power cord? HUGE! And there are some defective ones getting hot. I haven't seen it, yet, and I am keeping my fingers crossed. We keep calling MS idiots for not adopting Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. There is no winner in the DVD format wars. There is no clear leader, and anybody who says otherwise, well, it is hype. Sony is all about the propiertary format, just look at the memory stick. I am not sure if anybody remembers the original format wars between Beta and VHS, but I know plenty of people who bought the Beta which was backed by Sony, and lost out big time. I am hoping that the Blu-Ray works out for Sony, but I am also not holding my breath. I am looking forward to PS3, but with no games actually showing up in a playable format at the Tokyo Game Show, I have to worry that it will not be out by Spring 2006. And with it being more powerful and MS taking the 126 dollar a console hit, if Sony can make it $400... sweet. What I am looking forward to is the second generation of Xbox 360 games and the second generation of PS3 games. As soon as developers learn to harness the power of both systems, then we will see the real console wars. So everyone who has picked a side needs to be patient until the real thing heats up. Patrick 11.28.2005 09:32 Funny how you feel the need to curse, its like its built in to most Xbox fans. "Error, error, someone made a valid point against Xbox, quick, curse at them and make something up." The only thing you know about Cell is the rumors and conjucture you read. Sony has been very hush hush about everything which is why nobody knows for sure at what point in development the Ps3 is at. Thats why you should look at the big picture. Sony isnt going to let MS have a huge head start. But they are going to make sure its an awesome machine before they throw it out here to us. Thats where MS screwed up. And look at what happened, They have a HUGE shortage of machines and the ones that are out are freezing up and over heating. People are even calling it the Icebox 360. I've played it. The games are hardly better than the current xbox and nothing about it is next generation, Its just upgraded. Sorry to burst that bubble you call a head. Go play your 360 and hush. If its locking up then cry for a moment and then suspend it from the ceiling with strings, they say that helps. Hey, I am sure MS will send out an upgrade patch to fix the problems. Till then, try to shutdown and reboot, that sometimes helps with everything else MS makes. Me, I'll play my PS2 and patiently wait for the REAL NEXT GENERATION MACHINE to come out, The Playstion 3. (you need some kleenex?) Unregistered - Mike Hunt 11.28.2005 10:02 -- Deleted by Mod -- Unregistered - Andrew 11.28.2005 11:20 another artical, another arguement. By the way how much is $400 in english pounds? Unregistered - PS3 is neater than you 11.28.2005 11:41 I can't wait for next gen Ratchet and Clank, Jakk and Daxter, and other awesome games. I hope they make Ratchet or Jakk drive a school bus in the next game. Xbox doesn't have ANY games that even come close to those. Xbox fanboys think that Halo 1&2, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Fable, Mechassault, Half Life 2, Quake 4, Doom 3, Dead or Alive, Ninja Gaiden, Splinter Cell, Battlefield 2, Call of Duty 2, Project Gotham Racing, Forza Motorsport, Unreal Championship, Crimson Skies, Jade Empire, Morrowind, upgraded GTA's, and others pwn the PS2, but they are wrong. Long live Tomb Raider Games, and other stuff. Don't worry about the "green" when we can focus on the "brown". YES SONY, WE ARE GONNA DO IT. Unregistered - Alexander 11.28.2005 12:44 I would like to enquire into the reason why a proccessor that runs at the same clock speed of one of the 360's 3 processors is better. Yes its faster as a physics calculator etc, but its general processing ability is far less than the xbox 360. Also I would like to here a PS3 fanboys reasons for getting the PS3...that dont include the 2 video outputs (running at a cool 480p [xbox 1]) and the amazing ability to use 7 wireless controllers (confirmed by Sony as 7 bluetooth 'slots'). God even IGN got that wrong in their 10 reasons. Posts away (fan)boys I want to hear a real PS3 talk. p.s. No Killzone '2' crap aswell, again Sony has said that may be possible on 'PS4'. Unregistered - Alex 11.28.2005 13:07 As you may of guessed I am an xbox fanboy. I used to love the N64 then saw the 'amazing graphics' of the PS2 on a demo video of MGS I was won over by the visuals and almost bought one, that was one I actually played Halo (note the played part in that sentance) at a game store in france. It ended up that the graphics of MGS were no where no as good as the video - how typical of Sony. I was planing on getting which ever console was best and had my favorite games, which incedentally the 360; the PS3 will not be much better then the 360 and it has slowly lost all the features that made it better. If you wish to wait another 6 months (atleast) for the 'games' you have seen, feel free. But Id personally rather get better ones now. What exclusives does Sony have now? Unregistered - wotter 11.28.2005 13:18 Lets see, blu-ray that's one, to me better games, like gt, mgs. Oh that's another one, mgs4. Let's see, more power for i guess and hope the same price, perhaps little higher. And 1080p is off course a nice extra for a future hd-tv. Xbox360 games, I don't like them atm. Oblivion would be a very good reason, but I'm getting it on PC, so... and off course I still have to buy a game for ps2, it's not dead lol. And well ok, I had ps, ps2 so after 2 comes 3 :). But hey, those are my reasons, give yours and lets discuss about it. Unregistered - Alexander 11.28.2005 13:41 Well fair enough but waiting for MGS4 is like waiting for HALO 3, there both comig out about a year after launch, which kinda isnt c |