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15 Nov 2005 11:51 | Dusty | Playstation 3 PS3Today.com | Link to this article
A few days ago we reported on a rumor that suggested that Sony could be using a new DRM (Digital Rights Management) system to prevent people from playing second hand games on their PS3. Sony has now commented on the rumor, confirming that the newly patented DRM system will not be used in the PS3.
"I would like to clarify that this is false speculation and that PlayStation 3 software will not be copy protected to a single machine but will be playable on any PlayStation 3 console," said a Sony Computer Entertainment Europe spokesperson. So there you have it, it was all rumors, but we kind of knew that already didn’t we… Add Comment Unregistered - Mighty Boom 11.15.2005 12:16 PS3 looks like a bread basket. Unregistered - ps3 xbox 360 11.15.2005 12:43 PS3 AND XBOX 360 ARE IN THE END VERY CLOSE TO EQUAL IN PERFORMANCE....SO SAYS DEVELOPERS THE REAL PRO'S NOT YOU Unregistered - PS NOT 11.15.2005 12:44 Source: EDC Magazine Sony's much talked about Playstation 3, rumored to be hitting the streets in 2005 will not be powered by the equally talked about IBM/Toshiba/Sony "Cell Chip". IBM have told Electronics Design Change Magazine that the Cell Chip may not be be available until 2007... Plunging PS3 into what we at X365 call a "big ole mess" Unregistered - Off-topic 11.15.2005 13:02 I just watched a video clip on 1up.com discussing the 360. It was under their 30 days of 360, Nov 15th. The guys from 1up.com stated that they had talked to Kojima (spelling?) and he told them that he could have made MGS4 for the 360, but just chose the PS3. Maybe now we won't have to hear about how great that movie for it was. Truth 11.15.2005 13:15 Source: EDC Magazine "These problems may be a few years out, though. IBM has not announced when it will release the final chip, but the Cell project was originally envisioned as taking five years, suggesting that the final product may not be ready until as late as 2007. Although Sony refuses to talk about its future plans for the chip, it does admit that the Cell chip will not be the CPU in the Playstation3, reportedly slated for release in 2005." ======================================== What the holy f--- is going on?! Unless this article is completely false then Sony has offically pissed me off. How dare they tout the Cell chip as being the main selling point of the PS3 and then all of a sudden it's, "Oh nevermind we didn't mean it." Now, I know companies lie all the time, but this is inexcusable. If this is the truth and the Cell chip is NOT in the PS3 then I for one am not buying a PS3. Havoc 11.15.2005 13:21 Calm down this artical is about two years old, make sure your sources are correct before posting them. Unregistered - PS3 Fan 11.15.2005 13:25 What a load of bullshit,ofcourse the cell will be in PS3. Gill 11.15.2005 13:34 That article was posted in April of 2003. Havoc 11.15.2005 13:38 "PS3 AND XBOX 360 ARE IN THE END VERY CLOSE TO EQUAL IN PERFORMANCE....SO SAYS DEVELOPERS THE REAL PRO'S NOT YOU" The ps3 and 360 maybe close in the beginning, but in the end ps3 will definitely show it's power....SO SAYS DEVELOPERS THE REAL PRO'S NOT YOU. Unregistered - ninja0327 11.15.2005 14:44 what kind of power are you talking about.if its games you are sadly mistaken. Unregistered - Bob smith bob 11.15.2005 14:57 What power? The power that the cell can do 7 specifics (things, physics,etc.) at once while the Xbox360 core has to process it all step by step. Unregistered - bob smith bob 11.15.2005 15:00 http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748494/vids_1.html that shows the the cell cacluating the physics and heat pressure plus doing the graphics. THIS IS DOES NOT HAVE THE RSX GRAPHICS CHIP RUNNING JUST THE CELL! Unregistered - . 11.15.2005 15:13 That was a stupid Rumor Unregistered - 2 11.15.2005 15:19 lol @ 2 years old....think that if you want to. Unregistered - PGR3 11.15.2005 15:24 oooh shoot PGR3 the best racing game ever 10 out of 10 from 1up b8tches!!! Unregistered - ninja0327 11.15.2005 15:30 how does that benefit the ps3 or are you trying to say it will have power but no one to use it.besides we already know that it has more power or should i say its a fact so whats all this: "The ps3 and 360 maybe close in the beginning, but in the end ps3 will definitely show it's power" doesn't make sense?????????//// Unregistered - ps3 11.15.2005 15:57 TRUE PS3 IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WILL SHOW MORE PERFORMANCE BUT STILL ON A SMALL AND INSIGNIFICANT SCALE....THAT'S A FACT BUY THE PS3 OR XBOX 360 BECAUSE OF THE GAMES AND WHETHER YOU WANT THE BEST NEXT GEN ONLINE. PS3 IS NOT AN ONLINE MACHINE, THE NORMAL PORTING OR CHEAP SERVERS THAT PEOPLE MAKE WILL ALWAYS BE COMPLETE CRAP. WITHOUT A UNIFIED ONLINE PS3 IS DOOMED ONLINE NO MATTER WHAT, THERE'S NO WAY TO GET AROUND THAT. Unregistered - Crazy xbots 11.15.2005 16:23 you really don't have a life. you are the first ones who post here. How many times must we tell you that we don't care about your opinion? xbox360news.com is a deserted area it seems! Unregistered - Your name 11.15.2005 16:34 how about you getting a life and no one cares what you say Unregistered - yeah 11.15.2005 16:49 Yeah 18 and 19 get a life, really Unregistered - xbots suck 11.15.2005 16:52 you are posting garbage here not me! Unregistered - ps3???????? 11.15.2005 17:04 XBOX fans are here cause we know what's up with the xbox and it'll be out in a week we are in here to get news on the ps3, we are gamers first and for most. so, (edited) Unregistered - sony 11.15.2005 17:17 If you come for a civilized discussion you're more than welcome. But as you see some of xbox fans come here only to post their negative illusions about ps3. Unregistered - pshizle360 11.15.2005 17:18 PS2.5 is not worth the wait...crys* I NEED REAL GAMEPLAY AND NOT SOME CGI OR MOVIES PLS!!! I HAD (edited) WHILE WATCHING THE KILLZONE TRAILER AT E3 THATS HOW GOOD THE PS2.5 IS! NOOOOOOO PGR3 got 10 out of 10 from 1up!!! THX SONY FOR A CRAPY george foreman grill.......crys* XBOX360>PS2.5 i am very angry at you Fony Medaitor 11.15.2005 17:59 If you have you have uncivilized comments such as #24's post please do not post on this site. There is no purpose what so ever to mindlessly flamming the PS3. It will not make the xbox any better. Even if you do manage to covert somebody from ps3 to xbox with your propaganda, how the heck is it going to help you or the xbox? Havoc 11.15.2005 18:03 What part you don't understand, what I'm saying is, if we don't see the difference in graphics between the ps3 and 360 early on, we will see the difference between the two as time progress, since developers will have more time to work on the games. Unregistered - sony 11.15.2005 18:22 Thanks #24, you proved i'm right about some mindless xbots like yourself. You only give a bad name to xbox fans. idiot. Unregistered - shhh 11.15.2005 19:20 TRUE PS3 IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WILL SHOW MORE PERFORMANCE BUT STILL ON A SMALL AND INSIGNIFICANT SCALE....THAT'S A FACT Unregistered - neutral 11.15.2005 19:59 In the end, its all going to be about the damn games...both systems will be similar when it comes to graphics,unlike the difference you see between the ps2 and xbox. It has already been said so by game developers. Now for people who are saying that over time the ps3 will show its power overxbox360.. Keep in mind that by the time ps3 comes out xbox360 will be on its 2nd generation of games, probably even third!So I believe they will be on par..if not ps3 games will have slightly better graphics.I'm upset that Sony decided to cancel the use of central online gaming in favor of that other shyt they used to play online with the ps2.It would of been a stiff competion between Sony and Micro for the online service, which in the end will be best for us consumers. :) Havoc 11.15.2005 20:46 "TRUE PS3 IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WILL SHOW MORE PERFORMANCE BUT STILL ON A SMALL AND INSIGNIFICANT SCALE....THAT'S A FACT " How is it a fact that it will be a small and insignifcant scale even developers think that the ps3 is either slightly or significantly more powerful than 360. "The overall impression that we have with developers is that everyone perceives the PS3 to be slightly or significantly more powerful than 360." http://onthexbox.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1981#post1981 Unregistered - 420 11.16.2005 00:40 Mark Rein (Epic) On PS3 UE3: "It took less than a week to get the engine up and running, without rendering, with just wireframe rendering - out at Sony's office. The first couple of days the guys were just playing - we had no idea they would come home with a working engine. That surprised us because you know it has a new processor and all. And then once we got the kit it took a couple days to get it rendering, and maybe another week or two to make it fast and efficient and learn our way around it." On PS3 dev kit: "Any time we created any content it looked exactly the same on PC as it did on PS3. The only thing was, even though we had these ass-kicking Nvidia 6800 Ultra SLI systems, when we got the actual RSX card, even though it's not running anywhere near full speed, it was more than twice as fast as our SLI setup." (over 2x SLI?!) "It's a Cell processor and an RSX. Those are the main components of PS3. There are going to be other faster things than we had in the devkit. You've heard about their amazing memory bandwidth - this doesn't have any of that. The early kits are fast like that but they have Cell and RSX so it really is a perfect development station for PS3 and anything you run on it is only going to run a hell of a lot faster on final hardware, not slower - you're not going to get any surprises or lose any features". Unregistered - Halo 3 11.16.2005 01:05 lol man, you people are still arguing over which is better, 360 or ps3? Man, just get one. Personally im getting the 360 and im good with that. But guess what? If it turns out that I may want a ps3 when that time comes, I'll buy it. No need to argue about. Matter of fact, I'll have the 360 in my room, cause that's the one I'll be spending the most time with. And i'll have (if I choose to get one) my ps3 in the finished basement or family room for company to enjoy. I mean its nothing to fight about. Unregistered - 32 11.16.2005 01:12 #32, it's something to fight about if you can only afford one you douche bag Unregistered - Yeah I said it. 11.16.2005 01:48 lol you calling me a douche bag???????????????? Don't be mad at me cause your broke and on crack. Now who's the douche bag, trailer trash! Unregistered - loo;oqiwe;wqewqo 11.16.2005 02:21 stop fighting and face the fact that ps3 is a horizontal fridge/tanning bed... it's like silver poo!!! Unregistered - sony 11.16.2005 03:49 whether it's like a grill or fridge or anything else, it outclasses 360 and any super high end PC for years to come. this is a fact. Unregistered - THiS KiD RiGHT HeRe 11.16.2005 09:31 that rumor was stupid....this whole topic is stupid....i want news for the ps3 thats not hardware related now....i wanna see the games!!...GAMES!!...release dates and prices..actual game shots not CGI..i dont care if it doesnt go online or if i can or cant play used games...i DONT EVEN BUY USED GAMES.....i just wanna see the games then ill be happy...i think everyone here wants to see the new games too so owhy doesnt sony just show new sh!t???...is there a game show or convention coming up and theyre saving the games or what?? Unregistered - ?????????????????????? 11.16.2005 10:11 how the hell does it outclass the 360 in anyway let alone everyway, and dont give that crap about its specs, cause until that sh!t is on store shelves it doesnt exist! Unregistered - Akakage 11.16.2005 13:13 HOLD ON A SEC. What's the truth, is that EDC article really 2 years old or is it a current article, can anyone provide a link validating either claim about this article? I'm curious about this article. If this EDC article is current then perhaps that could be why there has been no gameplay footage of ps3. Although from the context of the article it would seem that it is an older article because its claiming that PS3 is rumored to release this year, seeing as how that means withing the next month kinda point to the article being old. Someone shed some light on this please. Havoc 11.16.2005 22:15 http://www.xbox365.com/news/zcomment.cgi?article=EpVplpyVlldiJVrYBq Unregistered - amed 11.17.2005 00:48 unless im reading things backwards, why are we talking about the cell chip instead of the DRM issue. Im glad that sony said that games would be playable of other console and i hope that they keep their copyright to a reasonable level. Im sure you all read about the many controversial Sony BGM rootkit, even though its a seperate divsion, i hope that the ps3 wont have anything similar restrictions. Unregistered - Chung Lau 11.17.2005 02:05 It was obvious to me that this wasnt true, I didnt have to wait for Sony's word, this would have caused alot of uproar if true, small game stores would have gone bankrupt, it just wasnt feasable, not only that but rental of games, wouldnt work, and your machine breaking down means buying all your catalogue again Unregistered - PS3playa 11.17.2005 03:09 I'd just like to know when my temporary ban will end, everytime I go to post on my PC, it tells me I am temporary banned, are you sure I havent been given a permanant ban? Its been about 2 weeks now, since my ban, all I want to do is post about PS3. I cant remember what my IP address is, I know it starts 82. thirty something the rest I dont know, I will have to write it down and post from this PC again. Unregistered - PS3playa 11.17.2005 03:28 I think my IP is 82.38.44.12 I could be totaly wrong though, but those numbers seem to be stuck in my head for some reason. Unregistered - Akakage 11.17.2005 11:05 Thanks for the link Havoc...that article is old as dirt. Would actually mean something if it was a current article. Why bring this article up now when its practically pre-historic and cell is apparently done and in Ps3?? Unregistered - Dahkness 11.17.2005 18:48 Actually the Xbox 360 can handle 6 threads per cycle, 2 per CPU. not "All at the same time" more so to show the power of the xbox, all games that are being released right now for the 360 are only using 2 threads the whole time. They havent even tapped the potential of multi threading processing yet. It hasnt been done in gaming like this before so it will take the devs a lil more time to get friendly with that type of programing. Also this whol 7 core cell processor b/s you keep touting , sure it has 7 cores, the Main cores instruction set is different then the other 6 cores. That means programing for the cell will be much harder since there are 2 different types of instructions depending on which core you are talking to. Also the way xbox utlizes its onboard cache allows the developers to write to an exact memory address , us it for whatever it wants, if you do your research, you will see how this process is almost identical to how the cell works. The cell processor is powerful, but make no mistake, it will not all be used just to run games. Also the Blu-ray DVD also will not be used JUST for games. You can gurantee that they will be using only 1 or 2 cores of that CPU for gaming, as well as 5 to 10 gigs of the blu ray just for games, much like today. Sony has other plans in store for their system. They do not even call it a gaming system, to call it that would be a waste of alot of processing and alot of disk space. It will have multi roles you havent thought of yet, but I can say for sure, that the PS3 will not run games any better then an xbox 360. The only differeance is, Xbox uses all its horsepower for gaming. PS3 only uses a little, which it should, it is moderatly more powerful and is intended for other uses. Unregistered - Jay 11.17.2005 19:02 I cant decide which one to get? Xbox 360 or PS3! Gill 11.17.2005 19:27 If it was a temporary ban it will last about a month. Unregistered - PS3playa 11.18.2005 07:51 Yea, its a temporary ban, at least thats what it says when I try to post, well it says "temporary blocked" not "temporary banned" I checked my IP and I got it right, its 82.38.44.12 Hope its not too long before I can post from my PC again, should be about 2 weeks from now hopefully. Gotta go, mate wants his PC back :) Unregistered - Sean 11.18.2005 17:18 Quite simply, there are still so many good games that i havent even played on my ps2. THe next generation has probably come too soon. The Xbox360 is coming out earlier than the ps2 but so what, all this means is that new ps2 games will be more affordable and i will now be able to buy more games in the run up to the ps3 and enjoy my ps2 more than before. Thanks Microsoft. Unregistered - Bah, consoles are only good for sports and racing games. 12.02.2005 22:54 lol all this fighting about 2 silly consoles... wonder when the nerdtendo peeps are going to chime in about that console. Unregistered - hello 01.11.2006 19:47 sorry, this is not the post you're looking foor, move to the next one. Unregistered - Nando 01.11.2006 19:49 i think microsoft is about to pull a dreamcast. except they can afford it and will probably come for more on the generation after the next. Add Comment |
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