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09 Nov 2005 11:23 | Dusty | Playstation 3
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A story is making its way around cyberspace today at lighting speed, with the worrying message that Sony is planning to prevent people from playing pre-owned games on their PS3.

The source of this rumor is a patent document that Sony holds on a technology which can prevent games from being played on any other machine than the game first was played on.

"A device and method for protection of legitimate software against used software and counterfeit software in recording media. The device includes a disk is set in a main unit. A specific title code is read, and if this title code has been registered, the main unit shifts to a normal operation. If the code has not been registered, verification software is initiated, PG detection is performed, and when a PG pattern and verification data match, the code is registered in the COCT. If matching does not occur, the disk is processed as illegitimate software."

The PS3 isn’t mentioned anywhere in the patent, but is obviously a Sony product where such a technology could be used, not that it would ever happen, or so we hope…

Source: Gamerandy.com via Joystiq.com







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Unregistered - Kutaragi 11.09.2005 11:36
J.Allard is the one who probably posts all the news here... LOL

2 - So what
Unregistered - SURE 11.09.2005 11:54
Here we go.. fueling the fire of xbox fanboys again. Getting a patent means nothing. And before everyone starts flaming let me mention this..

Nintendo has a patent for mind controlling and a system of reading brain impulses to react to on screen images.

Seriously. It does. do a Patent search.

Does that mean Revolution will have brain control?


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Unregistered - theonenonly 11.09.2005 11:56
Here we go bad news for Sony means Microsoft made it up. I mean really its not posible for there to be any setbacks with PS3. I mean it is made be Sony and they are perfect in every way. Quite writing off evey SOny rumor that is negative off on MS and tacking ever PS3 rumor that is positive and taking it as fact like it was stated by the Pope.

If this was about the x360 you guys would. say oh dreamcast360 sucks blah blah blah bnlah blah.



4 - what are you talking about?
Unregistered - you said what? 11.09.2005 12:01
I never blamed M$ for anything. I did not even mention anything about the company at all. I simply predicted an onslaught of xbox fans comming in here and dissing this info as something the PS3 will impliment. And I am sure I am right.

I am simply trying to point out that Patents do not indicate usage. I am sure Sony will not use this on the PS3. Patents are secured so that other people can not claim an invention and profit from it. Sony does these preventative patents all the time. In fact, check this one out:

http://www.redassedbaboon.com/blog/?ct_id=99
even thought the site name is funny.. it is a serious article. Do you think they will apply this invention to the PS3?!?! I doubt it.


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Unregistered - theonenonly 11.09.2005 12:02
I mean this just an unconfimed rumor but there are alot of fears about blueray ending all the freedom that we experiance with the dvd even stuff as harmless as making baskups. It was adressed by epics Mark Rein that Blueway could also force people to buy copyprotected telivisons to play blue ray stuff. This also is not fact but there is alot of stuff to condider when adopting a new disk forma not jsut how much space it can hold per disk.

6 - WHOA!!!...lolz
Unregistered - Akakage 11.09.2005 12:14
I believe this patent is probably for the sony laptops, but I can't dismiss the fact that Sony could and would do something like this. Lets look at the facts..

1.) Piracy takes away from Sony's profits. If this software prevents copies of games being made or played on the PS3 then will be willing to try it, if the used market suffers from it...so be it.

2.) Sony does not make any profit from the sale of used games, only new sales. When retailers buy new games they buy them from the manufacturers..ie..sony, microsoft, namco..etc. Used games are purchased from the consumer, and then resold from the store. Imagine how much more money Sony would make if everyone had to buy NEW PS3 games and accessories?

3.) Finally trade-in/used game sales are not allowed in Japan. This is one of the reasons Famitsu is so popular and respected. Once you buy a game in japan you are stuck with it, so people look to Famitsu's reviews so that they don't buy something that completely sucks. This system has been in place for a long time and japanese gamers still support them, why not make it mandatory for ps3? Hurray for Blu-Ray huh?

Like I said this more than likely is not gonna happen, but it is a very real possibility. Unless PS3's are all connected to each other at all times via some wireless connection that spans the globe I would say the easy thing to do would be don't connect your PS3 to the net. Unless there is some mandatory registration thing that sony has built into the "all-powerful" cell processor. Probably won't happen..but it could happen.


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Unregistered - PS3Player 11.09.2005 12:22
Guys relax, do like me, go play some Soccom, get on with your life and come back here when you here news directly from sony which i presume will be in February, in the meantime let the 360 fans come here and argue among themselves, we got so many great games coming out at the end of this year, so go play them. Oh yeah for the guy who said that the 360 will be successful because it's already sold out all over the country. Shut up, last time i checked MS was only shipping about 1 million 360 to North America, why wouldn't they be sold out, when we PS3 fans say that the PS3 will dominate that doesn't mean that the 360 won';t sell, in the contrary it will sell just as much as the Xbox and that's about it. Can you guysbeleive that almost every 360 games have been delayed oops "Compression" (edited by moderator) #60 is another dreamcast and will suffer the same fate unless BillGates decides to let the cash flow to obscure his faillure. The 360 is a simple piece of computer, nothing more nothing less and i'm not impressed end of the story.

TO PS3PLAYER: You don't post often, but everytime you do, I have to edit your comments. If this continues, you will be banned.
-Moderator


8 - Shadow of the collossus
Unregistered - JIN KAZAMA 11.09.2005 12:27
HEY, does anyone know how to beat the sand snake collossus? I believe its the 10th one, and I cannot beat that fool. I believe it might have something to do with getting on the horse and having the sand snake chase you, but i dont know what to do after that. Any help would be appreciated.


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Unregistered - HOOO RAAAAA 11.09.2005 12:36
If that's the case then what is a ps3? You morons talk like you know soooo much, when in reality you don't know (edited). The 360 will do alot better than you think certainly alot better than the first xbox. This is indeed a new ball game and MS is off to a great start on inwhich sony fears(hate or love it). The 360 is a powerful gaming machine which is being put down my brainwashed sony fanatics who are so closed minded that they can't get passed the fact that sony is on the ropes and ms is on the rise. Only a computer? the what the hell is the Ps3. The both perform the same task, playing video games. (edited)

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Unregistered - 9 11.09.2005 12:40
Shoot the eyes when riding the horse.

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Unregistered - JIN KAZAMA 11.09.2005 12:45
Sweet, thanks for the tip.

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Unregistered - wotter 11.09.2005 12:49
Wasn't this a rumor spread at the IGN forum? Well, nuff said :p
What I don't like about this site, is that they keep posting negative stuff about the ps3 that A) Are not confirmed by Sony B)Are mostly not true C)Spread by stupid xboxfanboys who think playstation is going to suck and xbox is going to rule because ...blabla


13 - Hey, did you guys know that, sony is soliciting logitech to come up with a design for the ps3 controller? Now I really like the 360's controller and it's also made by logitech if im not mistaken. Sony knows that the concept design didn't go over well. But i'm thinking, why logitech? That means sony must have really liked what logitech has done with the 360 controller. I'm very anxious to see the outcome. They'll do anything to outdo MS.
Unregistered - LOGITECH 11.09.2005 12:50
I really like the 360's controller.
I hate sony's concept controller.
Logitech worked with the 360's controller.
Sony runs up behind logitech to do the same.
Can't wait to see how it turns out.


14 - PS3 showing it's colors day by day lol
Unregistered - ps3 is wiggy wiggy wack! lol 11.09.2005 13:04
This is no rumor, and it definitely wasn't start by J. Allard. MS is working on releasing their highly anticipated xbox 360 for a world wide launch. The last thing they have time for is making up stories about ps3, Ken does enough of that. Be a man, and suck it up. The ps3 is not all that. Yeah there are some things that you'll hear that you'll like about the ps3 and then there's somethings you're not going to like and this is one of them. This is not the console to end all consoles like you think. This is only a competitor. Ken has slick talk, and great marketing skills that's it. Get over it.

15 - HAhahahahahahaha
Unregistered - Daddy 11.09.2005 13:05
Ha-ha (Nelson Voice)

16 - No Used Games for Sale in Japan?
Unregistered - Cynical Gamer 11.09.2005 13:59
#6 your comment about the sale of used games being outlawed in Japan is pure rubbish.

If you've spent any time out there you'd be familiar with Liberty - the second hand chain in Akihabara. They sell games, DVD's CD's etc. The real reason there is no real market for trade in is the aggressive nature of discounting over there.

Buy any game on launch day and expect to pay full price. Wait a few weeks to a month and the price has dropped substantially. No one is going to give you a fair price for a second hand game when you can buy it new for a knock down price anyway.


17 - dslkfj;sljg
Unregistered - sjl;fkjsd;lfk 11.09.2005 14:38
Bah this is old news of CD/DVD-+ ripping............ Nothing bout ps3

18 - OH YEA
Unregistered - HAHAHAHA 11.09.2005 15:09
One more reason to turn you ps3 into a toilet seat (which i will do and then ill post the pics all over the internet so you can see what the ps3 was really made for) and another reason to get a 360 lol ps3 really sucks now oh man score for MS oh yea eat it ps3 fanlosers hahaahaha

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Unregistered - wotter 11.09.2005 15:29
How do you know ps3 is going to suck? Do you have one at home? I guess not, djeezes i didn't know 6 year old toddlers could surf the internet.

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Unregistered - wotter 11.09.2005 15:33
OMFG PEOPLE ITS A HOAX !!! Patent is for cd800 (800mb or music cd), not a blu-ray. Debunked rumor!

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PAUL CERULA 11.09.2005 15:56
I have to get this out there


With the ps3 all your going to be getting that the xbox 360 can't match is the blu-ray drive. Which is not needed in itself.

A double DVD can handle all the next gen HD games after compression.

And who cares if you have to switch disks if that's even needed.

Also PS3 DOESN'T have online so why do you insist that it is so... much better.



WAKE UP FANBOYS AND TAKE BOTH CONSOLES FOR WHAT THEIR WORTH








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PAUL CERULA 11.09.2005 16:04
Even if blu-ray, not HD-dvd becomes mainstream it's going to be like 6-10 years before their practical. And no way is blu-ray going to cast anything from video games until then. It won't be 2-3 years.

23 - To Spartan
Mathoss 11.09.2005 16:18
You are right spartan but you dont more then the end of your nose.
Let me put it in a simple way so you can understand:

Compressing means de-compressing.
De-compressing means CPU usage.
CPU usage means less power for other task.
Less power means slower machine.

Still think Blu-ray is not an advantage...


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PAUL CERULA 11.09.2005 16:22
Still you can do without and not infringe on it's total output of performance. Still blu-ray would of been nice, but it can be done without

25 - Have fun waiting for your PONY :-D
Unregistered - deepFreezed 11.09.2005 16:27
PS3 is another year away. By that time gaming hardware will be so far ahead that PS3 wouldn't be so revolutionary, rather than Ps3 being next gen it would be just another game console.


By that time PONY fan boys can rev about how games are not all about hardware etc…

Have fun waiting for your PONY :-D


26 - 25
PAUL CERULA 11.09.2005 16:51
#25, I never thought of it like that, that's interesting. I think this site is over run by people getting the xbox 360. Ohh well.

27 - It's Impossible
Unregistered - sony fan 11.09.2005 16:52
What if you change your console? Buy another one for any reason?In that case all of your games library won't work. Guys this is just a childish stupid rumor,don't believe it.This is pure BS.

28 - @ 27
Unregistered - 360 fan 11.09.2005 17:22
When ever you start to doubt this topic, just go back to post number 14, he hit the nail dead on the head. It was written for BS3 freaks like you who just can't be a man about the situation. READ IT AND WEAP!

29 - To # 27
Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 17:22
Your completely right, I mean what if your PS3 breaks down after warranty? you buy a new PS3, none of your games will work on it, thats stupid.

30 - 23
Unregistered - just sharing my thoughts to you brain washed maggots. 11.09.2005 17:26
Even if that's the case, we still have the hd to cache, I mean lets face it, MS has done a great job, you nerds just can't deal with it. Yo, I like post 14 as well I mean you can't argue that. No matter how hard you try, and yes xbox fans are over running this site, cause you are all followers you need to wake up.
And before you say, that you are'nt a follower, why wait til 2020 for the ps3 when the 360 will be out before christmas if you're a gamer. I'll tell you why cause you are mentally in what the heart of the ps3 is, a cell. Post 14 was the post to end all post, as he/she would put it.


31 - To SPARTAN OF 777
Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 17:28
Can you stop saying PS3 will have no online play? because that is BS, online will be the same as PS2 left to the developers, get a life dumb ass.

32 - This is pure BS!
Unregistered - sony fan 11.09.2005 17:28
A system like that will create chaos, it's not logical. i don't believe a nonsense like that.i only believe when sony officially announce that.

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Unregistered - It's good to play together 11.09.2005 17:30
lol, 29 knows the console will break down they are so used to it lol then sony will brag about sales. lol BS3 indeed.

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Unregistered - silentscope 11.09.2005 17:32
ha ha ha, looks like trouble in paradise for all you ps3 fanboys ha ha ha, i cant help but laugh in your faces

35 - My point about sonyfans believing anything sony says and being brain washed you see it here for yourself from the words of a sonyfan
Unregistered - lol the truth and they call us xbots, what morons! 11.09.2005 17:32
32 - This is pure BS!
Unregistered - sony fan 11.09.2005 17:28
A system like that will create chaos, it's not logical. i don't believe a nonsense like that.i only believe when sony officially announce that.


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PAUL CERULA 11.09.2005 17:33
#31, you know what I meant by no online, no unified online. Without that online is complete crap, and porting is a horrible option...trust me. Ps3 is not an online machine.

37 - To # 30
Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 17:36
Like me and #27 said, this patent cant be for PS3, cos buying a console when your old one breaks down will make all your games un-playable, so the story is bull shlt. The patent which I havent looked at will be to do with DRM protection for CD's/DVD's and the latest news linked with BMG and spyware on PC's. Read about it in the news, the new DRM protected disk's install some type of spyware, so the disk cant be used on other machines.

38 - To SPARTAN OF 777
Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 17:43
(edited) PS2 runs OK online, PS3 is the same, they use the same servers as M$ the only difference is M$ has some software you go through to play the games, thats all you dumb ass, online is controlled by M$ software, thay even spy on you with it, they know exactly which game is in your Xbox, the same for X360, only they are getting nosier next time, they are keeping stats on you and everything you do. (edited) M$ console spyware, I got enough on my PC, without them spying on my console too, and when and how often I use it.

39 - lol They keep confirming that sony is BS. Once again spoken from the mind of another sonyfan
Unregistered - BS3 11.09.2005 17:44
37 - To # 30
Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 17:36
Like me and #27 said, this patent cant be for PS3, cos buying a console when your old one breaks down will make all your games un-playable


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Unregistered - sony fan 11.09.2005 17:45
I only said i don't believe rumors, is there a problem with that? Only morons like you believe rumors and lies.

41 - to #36
Unregistered - I hate Xbox/Playstation extremists 11.09.2005 17:46
Just because PS3's online is not unified does not mean it will be crap. Do keep in mind that PCs are not unified and they are the best at online gaming. And judging by the fact that the PS3 has 3 gigabit ethernet ports I would call it an online machine.

42 - spartan of 777777777777777777777777777
Unregistered - sony fan 11.09.2005 17:50
SO you say PC online games suck because there is not a PC Live service for them? This Xbot Live is the only thing you have and try to say it is the heaven of online gaming.
Xbot Live=a place you meet idiot Xbots


43 - To # 39
Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 17:59
What about M$ bull? you still believe X360 games look next gen, ahhaha what a joke, what you doing on here anyway Xtard? this is PS3Today, not an X360 site, your posting in the wrong forum fool.

44 - LOL ONLY MORONS BELEIVE RUMORS, WELL THE PS3 IS AT THIS POINT A RUMOR BUT YET YOU WAIT FAITHFULLY AND HANG ON TO KENS WORDS AFTER ALL WORDS WITH NO PROOF ARE WHAT? RUMORS. THINK ABOUT THAT.
Unregistered - LOL THEY JUST DONT STOP 11.09.2005 18:02
40 - #35 Unregistered - sony fan 11.09.2005 17:45
I only said i don't believe rumors, is there a problem with that? Only morons like you believe rumors and lies.


45 - OH yeah that made you a moron....
Unregistered - ps sux 11.09.2005 18:05
Well you can talk about the 360 if you will, but the truth is launch titles are only the begining you'll see the difference and yeah they look better than the old xbox graphics, which looked 5x better than the ps2 graphics that you're playing now so laugh about that the next time you fire up that broke down ps2 lol.

46 - Yeah they do look next gen, and just think they arent even tapping into the 360's power. By the time the bs3 launches please you may even change your pathetic little mind about the bs3. lol it's funny that you sony bums can't take the truth well at all. face it the 360 is the future.
Unregistered - BS3 11.09.2005 18:08
lol yea im laughing.

47 - To # 44
Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 18:08
"LOL ONLY MORONS BELEIVE RUMORS, WELL THE PS3 IS AT THIS POINT A RUMOR BUT YET YOU WAIT FAITHFULLY AND HANG ON TO KENS WORDS AFTER ALL WORDS WITH NO PROOF ARE WHAT? RUMORS. THINK ABOUT THAT.
Unregistered - LOL THEY JUST "

I could have said the same thing when PS2 launched but hey, I didnt and guess what? Xbox was almost 2 years away from PS2's launch. I'm not some spotty little 6yr old like you, who b*tches with other little spotty 6yr olds on Xbox live, thats why I didnt mention back in the day about, release time differences, grow up dumb ass.


48 - ya'll say that live is the only thing ms has going for it, and it's simply not true. Blue ray is the only thing ps has going for it. Plus when the system comes to the for front you'll see you've been tricked again by sony the master of brainwashing. The 360 ons ps and on top of that we'll have ours soon when is that pstrash coming? yea like i thought no one knows lol
Unregistered - ps3 sux 11.09.2005 18:11
lol

49 - 47 let me set you straight, I never had the original xbox, I had a ps2 I got it in 2000 so trust me I know what im talking about. Alot of xboxers started out with ps1 and ps2 trust me, we know how full of it sony is first hand. And name calling really, now who's 6 lol.
Unregistered - ps sux 11.09.2005 18:15
once again...

50 - To # 48
Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 18:15
It comes out in SPRING, DUMB ASS!!! so only a few months away, now (edited)

51 - Look at that moron #48-#49
Unregistered - sony fan 11.09.2005 18:22
You don't even know where to write your post! imbecile!
and PS3 specs is not rumor,it is announced officially. pffffffffff!
what things i must explain to you RETARD MALFUNCTIONING BILL GATES CLONES!


52 - lol you sure about that little man, I know spring 06 for the japan market, are you japanese? They are saying maybe in 07 it'll be out in the states maybe like I said no one knows. but we do know it'll be trash lol thats a fact.
Unregistered - ps sux 11.09.2005 18:24
lol

53 - lol @ it is announced officially omg, if can said it then its set in stone, if he didnt then you fall apart. It's a rumor, the system hasn't launched yet no price, no release date, no nothing. lol deal with it.
Unregistered - ps3 fans suck even more lol..... 11.09.2005 18:27
51 - Look at that moron #48-#49
Unregistered - sony fan 11.09.2005 18:22
You don't even know where to write your post! imbecile!
and PS3 specs is not rumor,it is announced officially. pffffffffff!
what things i must explain to you RETARD MALFUNCTIONING BILL GATES CLONES!


54 - still laughing @ officially lol and you call us xbots, lol you are a moron
Unregistered - ps sux 11.09.2005 18:30
............

55 - to # 54
Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 18:40
X360 will just be another Dreamcast when PS3 launches, enjoy your crash and burn system. (Crash and burn lol, it actualy does crash and overheat too lol bye bye X360)

56 - SPARTAN OF 777
Bill Gates 11.09.2005 18:41
You know perfectly well that you'll be camping out to get the PS3 so stop acting like you're such an xbox fan. Just because Sony decided not to go the same rout that Microsoft took doesn't mean that the games wont be as fun. All in all, Sony could endup having better online apabilities, you are you to know this. God you're so stupid. You seriously need a life kid.

57 - WOW! I AM SO (edited), I DONT KNOW WHERE TO TYPE MY TEXT, I AM SO IMATURE AND LIKE XBOX AND X360 GAMES, XBOX360 RULES BUT I KNOW DEEP DOWN PS3 IS BETTER... AH TO HELL WITH IT, I SUCK AND X360 SUX TOO. THERE I HOPE YOUR ALL SATISFIED NOW?
Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 18:47
Wonder what this area is for.......................Hmmm!!!!

58 - X360 has the best online you can get, the reason its so good is, the spyware software M$ use's that you conect to the internet with called LIVE, its so great, M$ can spy on me whenever I touch my X360 next gen, isnt that great!?
Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 19:14
I still havent figured this area out yet...................................aha!

Grocery list:
4 tins cat food
carten of milk
5 bottles of Soda (different flavours)
Caffeine free coffee
A big fart ass Doughnut for me when no one is looking (maybe 3 or 4)
Double cheese burger with fries (I can handle 3 of these)

OK, there's my shopping list done, now to continue, being an X360 fanboi on this forum.


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Unregistered - DISCIPLE 11.09.2005 19:30
AYE THIS IS JUST A BUNCH OF APE (edited). I DONT BELEIVE THAT SONY WOULD DO SOMETHING TO PISS OFF THEIR GAME CONSUMERS.
BESIDES THERES SO MANY FACTORS THAT WOULDN'T MAKE ANY KIND OF DAMN SINCE TO HAVE THIS PROB. CHECK IT.. WHAT IF YA CONSOLE IS A DUD AND YOU BUY YA GAMES AND STUFF TRY TO PLAY EM AND LATER WHILE YA PLAYIN YA SYSTEM JUST CRASHES.
THEN YOU CANT FIX IT SO YOU TRY AND GET A NEW ONE, AND ACCORDING TO THE RUMOR,
ALL OF YOUR PREVIOUS GAMES THAT YOU'VE WORKED SO (edited) HARD TA GET IS NOW JUST PLAIN USELESS (edited).
AND WHAT ABOUT GAME RENTALS HOW WOULD THEY WORK?
I DONT KNOW BOUT YALL BUT I THINK SOME ONES JERKIN YA CHAIN.
JUST THROWIN THIS OUT THERE


60 - PS3 will not use this. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
Patrick 11.09.2005 19:34
Oh, its so funny how all you little xbox butt suckers are so afraid your system of choice will end up like the xbox did. LOSING. You have nothing but rumors to go by and yet you try to make everyone and yourselves believe that the 360 is the only system to buy. Your sad really, MS xbox lost huge to PS2 and you proclaim xbox rules, Rules what? The losers bracket? Rules you pathetic excuses for gamers. Until they are all out and one is clearly the winning most used system, Your know it all comments are useless dreams from sad little boys. Oh and for you little girls that say Blu-ray isnt needed. I have one thing to say, and its in your language. Your just mad cause 360 wont have it, naaa na na, na na, naaaaa. lol. Look how fast UMD has grown, all the studios support it and their section is getting bigger and bigger. Blu-ray will grow even faster. Oh and if a Blu-ray disc isnt needed for a game, Developers wont have to use it, they can use DVD since it will play those as well, but if they need it, there it is. 360 cant do that. HA ha. Will it add to the price, SURE. BUT WHO CARES. I dont, I would be mad if they were leaving it out. PS3 will be everything the 360 is and more. Hide and watch ladies. Hey didnt I read some comments about preorders from the 360 being canceled? I know I didnt even order it, and I am glad I didnt. I played Kameo which I thought looked cool but it plays kind of slow. Not impressed myself. Oh and #14, your a retard. This is a rumor and MS would start them if they think of them. Sony might own the patent but wont use it for this if anything. Alot of patents are gotten just so others cant get them. Dream on girls.

61 - To # 59
Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 19:37
Good point, that means sony wont make money from selling the games to rental stores, for customers to try before they buy, the news story above is nonsense and needs deleteing,, it just doesnt make any sense at all.

62 - to #52
Unregistered - I hate Xbox/Playstation extremists 11.09.2005 19:40
They are aiming for a simultaneous internation launch so we should see the PS3 in North America in the first half of 2006 unless the xbox 360 bombs (which is unlikely) in which case Sony said they would wait untill 2007.

like that commercial says "when banks (or any company for that matter, Microsoft and Sony in this case) compete, you win."


63 - DISCIPLE, TO #8 GET ON AGRO WITH BOW AND ARROW READY, LET THE COLOSSUS CHASE YOU. WHEN IT OPENS ITS EYES SHOOT THEM. A SEQUENCE WILL BEGIN.TAKE IT FROM THERE.
Unregistered - D 11.09.2005 19:41
6

64 - NEVA MIND DIDNT SEE THAT DUDE ANSA YOU
Unregistered - D 11.09.2005 19:42
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65 -
Unregistered - Evan 11.09.2005 20:17
this is kinda skeptical.. i have no idea how they would do it

66 -
Unregistered - kolopy 11.09.2005 20:30
to any b1tch who still thinks 360 is 1.5 check th1s sh1t out. http://www.xboxfront.de/screenshots-727-1657-Project_Gotham_Racing_3.html

sony better start sh1tting themselves, 360 is gonna PWN.

hola!


67 - YOU people are on CRACK
badkolo 11.09.2005 20:37
So if you own 2 or 3 ps3's you think they would expect you to buy more then 1 copy of the game so you can play it on your other ps3 you might have or a friend might have. for any of you to beleave this or to continue posting on this subject as if this would be true in any way makes you all stupider then you all sound

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Unregistered - ps3 sux 11.09.2005 21:00
Well, Well, Well, looks like somebody has been busy since i've been away. Yeah well looks like some of you have been saying the way I was posting was dumb but at the same time posting just like me, which takes me back to what I said earlier. You are followers. And fools, when something isn't going like it should, you say it's not true, then you say if ken didn't confirm it it's lie, when all he does is lie. You call us xbots but yet you post idiot thoughts, like droids, deal with it man, sony suck, there is no excuse it is what it is.
Oh and that dreamcast bit, please man, dreamcast was better than the ps2 could have ever been, and calling it a dream cast in an honor dream cast was actually the best home console, software support folded thus, it was history. However, the 360 is an entirely different story. No one is scared of ps3, MS is a powerhouse as well and has kicked krazy ken in the teeth with the first xbox, and this one is set to do even more damage, it's about to hand you guys asses to you and you know it. So go on justify every thing that goes wrong with the ps3, it just further illustrate how you guys are programmed. The ps3 = sh!t.
deal with it!


69 - loser # 60
Unregistered - ninja0327 11.09.2005 21:02
you say "Your know it all comments are useless dreams from sad little boys." and that applies to you comment as well. becuase you are a boy with no life but to praise sony as if you are on their payroll.

same person who posted stupid things
you don't profit from any of this.


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Unregistered - ps sux 11.09.2005 21:15
60 your an idiot, you wrote all of that and aint say sh!t. You played kameo on a demo disk please the final copy will be 100% better. And dont' give me crap about blue ray it's not better it's sony's own media that they want to get off the ground so they use gennipigs(I spelled it wrong I know) like you to usher it it. Blue ray for the ps3 will virtually be for movies, and you'll obsorb the cost to no avail. Whe the 360 is everything the ps3 is but better, minus the blu ray which isnt even needed. You need to educate yourself about the product that you're boasting cause you just proved you don't know the first thing about it. You are no different than the other ps nerds, you're all talk....ummm sounds like ken doesn't it, idiot!

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Unregistered - kolopy 11.09.2005 21:18
betamax = flop.

minidisc = flop.

blu-ray = flop.

dvd = still king and will be for some time.

holo-cube = the next gen multimedia.

you heard it here first.


72 - lol it's funny as hell watching all of you morons try to justify sony's stupidity, you can't rashinalize insanity we don't call him crazy ken for nothin', are you seein the trend here with this whole ps madness, it's not great sony is only a competitor they do not where the crown. Hello are you in there? 14 has really nailed the coffen shut to these stupid little arguments you lost suck it up. and yea ps does suck lol
Unregistered - 360 11.09.2005 21:19
sony is garbage

73 - ps sux
Unregistered - excuse me I think it's rationalize...... 11.09.2005 21:20
lol

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Unregistered - sony is for dorks 11.09.2005 21:27
Man say what you want to say, the 360 overall is a better deal, ps3 is overkill, they tried so hard to outdo MS on paper but when the final product arrives all it will have is blue ray. What competition is that for MS. The average consumer doen't give a damn about blue ray and will opt for the 360 cause it's next gen and the price would be cheaper, and the games would be cheaper than the ps3 games simply because of format. That's one reason MS has not made the harddrive permenant they want to lower the price as they see fit so they can constantly outsell the competition MS is smart as hell, they're going to soon take over sony will have japan lol. Ken Ken knows this but yet he got his faithful subjects ie your stupid @sses, then once you see like the rest of us does you'll switch lol. NOV 22, the next gen begins. Yeah you made right. nerds

75 - Sony won't do this
Unregistered - someone you don't know 11.09.2005 21:36
Even though I believe that Ken Kutaragi is ruining the great machine he created, I don't think he's stupid enough to make it so you can't play pre-owned games. There's just no point to it.

76 - Ya'll laughed like those demos are really how the 360 is going to be, well remember uptop when that one nerd was saying how the umd's started off slow then began to grow and will get bigger, well that's how it is with these titles for xbox. the 360 is great, but those demo's are well demos soon you'll see the power of the 360 and think damn, MS is so hot. And then you'll look at the ps3 and think damn, it's so not lol . funny how you can see something from only one point of view. open your eyes
Unregistered - sony makes cheap consoles that break down and sony fans are jealouse of xbox360 and whish they had one but can't so now they just keep playing with those broke @ss ps2's lol 11.09.2005 21:37
sony sucks lol

77 - ps3vs.xbox360
maccdaddy 11.09.2005 21:39
even though some of you think that blueray will not be useful to game developers it. will. It provides much more space for the developers to add what they might want into the game. I am an all out xbox 360 fan and i do not like the ps3 at all but i still cant deny the fact that the ps3 is going to sell more systems that the xbox 360. In fact if you think that the ps3 sucks you are just plain stupid. And if the think that the xbox 360 is weak you should be checked into the mental institution. What makes you think that there will be a significant difference anyways? You should know that all of the games arent going to look like mgs4 on the ps3. Some will suck and some will be excellent. That goes the same for the xbox360 of course.The bottom line is that there is no better and they will be close to the same when they come out. You dont have to take my word for it just find out when the systems come out.

78 - #76
Unregistered - blah 11.09.2005 21:41
You are the kind of person who gives the people who prefer the xbox, like me, a bad name. So please stop. I come here and act civilized, and think through, just look at my post #75. You should act more responsible here.

79 - sony is trash, ps3 is trash hence you are trash...
Unregistered - sony sux 11.09.2005 21:45
Macdaddy, you are right except that if you think ps3 sux you're just plain stupid I mean, I'm not stupid by any means, but other than that yea I get your point. However sony still sux and thats that.

80 - 78 yea I hear that, however if you just read the posts a little more carefully you'll see that im mostly responding to post made towards me, so I just shut'em down. So don't talk to me about being civilized talk to the whole forum cause it's a two way street not just me. :)
Unregistered - ps sux 11.09.2005 21:48
Thanks for you comment 78

81 - banned
Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 22:00
deleted by mod.

82 - LOL, did that make you feel better? You see my child, I can type in this box if I chose to but unlike you Im not under sony's spell. I can think what I want and do what I want it doesnt have to be officially announced to write like this lol. See what im sayin about ya'll gotta always do like others and then when somethin is different you attack it, why attack what you dont understand? What if I just dont want to type in the box until im ready, then what? You are a follower and you are contantly
Unregistered - ps sux 11.09.2005 22:07
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83 - There is no written law that say I can't type like this. See I wanted to do it, so it's done. I don't have to follow see how easy that is. It's okay to be your own man, you don't owe sony anything, it's okay. Say it with me now Woooo Saaaaaaa lol
Unregistered - you suck 11.09.2005 22:13
lol

84 - THE TITLE OR PERSON YOU ARE REFEREING TO GOES HERE YOU
Unregistered - YOUR NAME GOES HERE, WHICH IS "RETARD" 11.09.2005 22:16
YOUR COMMENT GOES HERE AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SONY YOU RETARD

85 -
PAUL CERULA 11.09.2005 22:19
Tiss true Ps3 fanboys, xbox 360 is going to grab a lot of ps3's business. I'm not saying the majority of it to all you morons who would jump on me. But overall this console, Xbox 360 is going to do so.... so... much better this round

86 - this is for the title, not for your comments -----Moderator
Unregistered - you are sooo stupid 11.09.2005 22:22
lol im still laughin and waitin for you to say somethin worth while.

87 - 360 sucks and isnt much better than xbox which also lost to PS2
Unregistered - Real Gamer 11.09.2005 22:22
Man yall suck big time, Ms 360 wont even touch the PS3 and to the idiot that said Blu-ray wont be for the games is an idiot, they will make the games on Blu-ray disc if they need and it will play them, they said it will be for Movie playback only meaning it wont be a recorder idiot. Man grow a brain. I agree with #60 and I noticed how you dismissed his comment about the xbox losing to Ps2 so badly. What do you base your comment on? You idiots seem to just skip the parts of comments you cant come back to and call names. Grow a pair and step up to the plate if you can. PS3 and Blu-ray will rule. But, Hey its ok if you dont buy a PS3, I am going to enjoy mine as soon as they hit next spring, oh and for you retards that say, Its not coming out in the Spring, remember, they have already said it wont use region coding, so I can just order it. Losers

88 - banned
Unregistered - 11.09.2005 22:28
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89 -
Real Gamer 11.09.2005 22:28
Oh and I personally canceled my preorder of the 360 and the Manager where I buy games at said alot of others have done the same. In fact they are afriad it wont do as well as they thought. I think they are right. Others have said that the General consensus is that people are more interested and excided about the PS3. Believe what you want, PS3 will rule like PS2 is and has.

90 - spoken by a true idiot
Unregistered - lol you suck 11.09.2005 22:28
57 - WOW! I AM SO (edited), I DONT KNOW WHERE TO TYPE MY TEXT, I AM SO IMATURE AND LIKE XBOX AND X360 GAMES, XBOX360 RULES BUT I KNOW DEEP DOWN PS3 IS BETTER... AH TO HELL WITH IT, I SUCK AND X360 SUX TOO. THERE I HOPE YOUR ALL SATISFIED NOW?
Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 18:47
Wonder what this area is for.......................Hmmm!!!!


91 - 88 you are truly truly truly ignorant, who are you to say what im doing is wrong or doesn't look right, you're the type of person who puts limitations on restrictions on himself, you're so confined that you are worried about how im typing more so than living your life, I was just having fun with you but your're obssessed with my typing and out of all of that I'll stop when Im ready Im only doing in now cause it bothers you.
Unregistered - lol you got issues bro. 11.09.2005 22:31
lol

92 - 89
Unregistered - stop worrying about how im typing. 11.09.2005 22:35
I don't doubt it, I just wished people cancelled in my area cause' I still want mine first shipment.

93 - .To MR RETARD
Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 22:36
The end of the message was supposed to say:

"TYPEING IN THE TITLE BOX MR RETARD, I'M OUTTA HERE"

but wouldnt fit in the name box

Have fun MR RETARD


94 - To MR RETARD
Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 22:38
By all means carry on looking like a retard, you have already earned the name for what your doing, happy posting.

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Unregistered - jdogg 11.09.2005 22:40
It is my consensus that sony sucks. If microsoft stopped making consoles today that'll be it for me i'd would'nt buy a ps3, 4,5 etc. You buy'em and they break, and by the looks of it they are becoming more and more expensive I don't want to keep buying those so I won't start. 360 rules, damn sony.

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Unregistered - Town Idiot. 11.09.2005 22:43
93 - .To MY father: MR RETARD
Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 22:36
The end of the message was supposed to say:

" Dear dad, I'm outta here."

I cant stop you from drinking and beating on mom so

Have fun MR RETARD oh I mean dad.


97 - To # 95
Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 22:44
How are they becoming more and more expencive? PS1 launch price was the same as PS2 launch price, PS3 will be similar if not the same, so stop it already with the bullsh*t.

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Unregistered - afaf 11.09.2005 22:46
i think the xbox 360 would make a better toilet set than the ps3

99 - To MR RETARD
Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 22:48
Decided to write in the proper box now eh MR RETARD? good for you. My father is no retard, yours must be tho for you to turn out the way you did.

100 -
Unregistered - ps3 sux 11.09.2005 22:51
97, im talking gaming cosole prices, they say the ps3 will be 499 now you add tax to that is that the same aight then stfu.

101 -
Unregistered - jdogg 11.09.2005 22:53
deleted and banned

102 - to # 100
Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 22:54
Whoa! who said 499? more like 300 to 400, I say 350, and since when were PS1 and PS2 not consoles? I was talking about consoles too you (edited)

103 - Personally I wouldnt care how much it costs, I wouldnt buy that peice of Sh!t.
Unregistered - sony sux 11.09.2005 22:55
you just can't get over it can you robot boy, lol retard, did you come up with that allll by your self? idiot!

104 - To MR RETARD
Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 22:58
deleted and banned

105 -
Unregistered - jdogg 11.09.2005 22:59
102 yeah you may be right because after they finish stripping that garbage down to fight cost you might be paying 199 for that peice of sh*t.
all you'll have is a gaming system that plays blue ray. oooooo yea that's nice.
(edited and banned)


106 -
Unregistered - 11.09.2005 23:02
deleted and still banned

107 - by the looks of it you seem to think he's here, MR. Retard is his name playing with your butt hole is his game lol f@ggot
Unregistered - you dead granny sucks 11.09.2005 23:04
lol losers, (you and your butt munching dad)

108 - I see a lot of lies about the 360 on here
Unregistered - Reasonable person 11.10.2005 00:18
Listen, I doubt any of you actually cancelled preorders on the 360 or even had one. I also doubt that the 360 is going to do poorly. A lot of this wishful thinking about the xbox 360 not being an improvement and that people all over are cancelling pre orders is B.S. What are any of you trying to accomplish by this? You won't achieve nothing. I want a PS3 as much as the next guy, but don't trash other consoles, you put out a bad name for PS3 fans.

109 - To # 113
Unregistered - X Xbox360 waiter 11.10.2005 00:27
I cancelled my X360 preorder, that's why I'm on here waiting for latest news on PS3, I changed my mind about 360, I don't want to be swapping disks, not only that both games I had on order had their release dates put back. I decided to wait for X360 to come down in price, when PS3 launches and get both at the same time.

110 - I seriously doubt #114
Unregistered - Reasonable person 11.10.2005 00:38
swapping discs is probably going to be very rare if it even happens. Not to mention that it's not even a big deal. The Blue-Ray technology, though superior, is overkill. I doubt you canceled your preorder just because two games you wanted were pushed back without even thinking of the others that are coming out for it. I think you're just a Sony fan who wants people to get a bad impression of the 360.

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Unregistered - READ THIS 11.10.2005 00:52
XBox 360 games single threaded, says Vole

Microsoft drops bomb at FPF


By Charlie Demerjian in San Jose: Wednesday 26 October 2005, 18:16

MICROSOFT'S VOLE DRAMA ARMY DROPPEDa bombshell today in a backhanded way.
During a talk on multithreaded programming, Microsoft used the three core, two thread per core Xbox360 as an example.

The bombshell was that the first generation of Xbox titles, all of them, are single threaded. Not good.

The INQ has gotten its hands on an Xbox360, yes, there is a Wal-Mart near us, and was completely underwhelmed by the quality of the games. Graphics quality was poor, and pixels were showing up blocky, ruining the wow-factor of the new console.

Every new machine has a nasty first set of games as the programmers work up to speed on the hardware. In this case, the up side is that there is about 6x the CPU power available and coming to a console near you in the second generation of games.

The scary part is that everyone tells me that the PS3 is harder to program for than the Xbox360, and the tools are nowhere near the quality of Microsoft's. That means that even with an extra six months of design time, the initial PS3 games may be worse. µ




112 - to comment 116
Havoc 11.10.2005 01:18
Yes the pS3 is harder to program for than the Xbox 360, but it's easier this time around than the ps2. The first patch of ps3 games will of course not show off the true power of the ps3 but it will not be worst than 360's.

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Unregistered - Please explain 11.10.2005 01:25
how do you know it won't be worse, simply because it's playstaion? Im really want to know this, im not saying this so tempers will flair but It's like everytime someone says something about the ps3 it's like no no umm that's not possible the ps3 can handle that, and Im not really trusting that. I need some to be real about it. And to the one guy please stop it with the retard mom comments give that sh!t a rest, the one guy is like in the 8th grade can you please be bigger then him and leave it alone.

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Unregistered - KEEP IT REAL 11.10.2005 01:28
okay you say that the first wave of games won't show off the ps3's power so then all these people who say that about the 360 is called names but when it comes to the ps3 now it makes sense, come on what the hell kinda logic is that. Then they call the xbox 360 a 1.5 then the ps3 is a 1.5. I mean really man ya'll need to learn to keep it real. The first wave of games won't show off the 360's power. so what makes the ps3 so much better than the 360. No one has given me the ocular proof needed to back up these one sided statements.

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Unregistered - ps3 sux 11.10.2005 01:41
how can you even defend the ps3 after reading 116, ya'll are jokes seriously.

116 -
Unregistered - 11.10.2005 03:37
Do you program for both the PS3 and the 360? Got both dev kits sitting in your room for you to compare? No? Sit down and STFU. The developers are the only ones who have the right to complain. Your job is to fork over the cash for their games.

The INQ says a lot of things. "I heard from a lot of people that there are giant aliens landing this Christmas." OMG no really??!


117 -
Gill 11.10.2005 04:39
I am a moderator for this site. As you will notice I have had to edit and delete numerous post. In addition several people have been banned. The foul and abusive language will not be tolerated. I do not have the time to pour over 100's of comments every day and edit every other one. I will continue to ban people who are incapable of carrying on an adult discussion.

118 -
Vivicious 11.10.2005 05:34
Yea, rooting out all the foul and abusive language would take several hours a day, that's for sure. =P

119 -
Unregistered - You really thing Pony Would not use this? 11.10.2005 09:22
Have you heard about the lawsuits that's out on PONY for putting files on PC's so that music CD's cannot be copied?

Why is PONY keep changing their specs? Maybe they have not finalized the system yet?


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Unregistered - xbox toy soldier 11.10.2005 09:29
does anyone know a good forum site for the xbox360??...sumthing as good as this site??..

121 -
PAUL CERULA 11.10.2005 10:02
xbox360news.com

122 -
Unregistered - dfh 11.10.2005 10:04
wats up with this flame war about sony and M$ surely most of u guys own a M$ and a sony brand at ur house

123 - I'll buy both consoles
Unregistered - Demonik 11.10.2005 11:00
I realized I was acting like a royal pain on the last article and I'm no better than the extremists, I'll end up buying both consoles for my own reasons after working at my part-time job and I'm 16.

But seriously #116 is right none of you guys are game develoeprs how do you know the games and the consoles will be good in the first place when they haven't been out yet, I though I was worst but most of you guys need to grow up.

It's like both companies mistakes are holding all of you guys back, suck it up and shut up already because the games sell the consoles, if they're weren't any games both consoles would be useless door stops that wouldn't sell.


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Unregistered - Demonik 11.10.2005 11:07
Until I see any flaws or proof about the consoles from either company I have nothing to say until the 360 and ps3 come out.

125 -
Unregistered - JsonHenry 11.10.2005 12:37
Bwuahahahahaha!!!

Yeah right, I will believe it when I see it.

There is no way that Sony is so stupid as to no allow pre-played games, it would bury them this generation if they did.


126 - to comment 113
Havoc 11.10.2005 12:41
"how do you know it won't be worse, simply because it's playstaion?"

No I don't know, like the artical said in comment 111 the ps3 intial games may be worst but I have my reasons to disagree.

Firts like I said before the ps3 is harder to program for than the Xbox 360, but it's easier this time around than the ps2, the ps2 launch titles were not the best, but they were ok for that time period. So difficulty of developing on a platform doesn't have to much to do with how the graphics will look for the first patch of games for a console. It's the amount of time a deveoper has to work on a game. I'm not just saying this because I think the ps3 is marginally better or something, lets say both xbox and ps3 are exactly the same in performence I still would believe that the ps3 luanch games will not be worst than 360. Mainly because there will be more time to work on the games for the ps3, also 360 has alot of titles that look like they were ported from the xbox, this is why I think the ps3 launch titles you will see on an average more games that look better graphically because of the few games that looked ported on the 360.

Of course I could be wrong it's only an opinion, but I gave enough reason and support, for you to understand why I don't think the ps3 luanch games won't be as worst as the 360's.


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PAUL CERULA 11.10.2005 12:53
Havoc, well of course the launch titles of xbox 360 will be worse than the launch titles of the ps3.

But anyways I think that xbox 360 games by that time of ps3 launch, the games will be very close to the ps3's. This pattern will follow every year, until maybe the last few years of the console where you will notice that ps3 has that little more performance. Still to me, you guys who stuck with the ps2 do you think that you would of gotten the xbox just because it performs a little better??? Huh.

PERFORMANCE IS NOT AN ISSUE, games and functions(online, multimedia) --Are the Deciding factor


128 - Thanks for the explanation
Unregistered - Gadget Freak 11.10.2005 13:36
Yea, I get your point. I agree that if the developers but in the time and energy to create good graphics and gameplay then the ps3 would have the edge, cause to be honest I already know that the xbox 360 was rushed and the developers are not really putting in the effort like they should so on that note I agree. And to be totally honest, I haven't all together ruled out the ps3, I may end up with one, Im really leaning towards it. However Im not waiting for it I will have my 360 in a few weeks. Anyway it's been interesting to see all of your comments, and I'll check back in a few weeks for updates. Peace.

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Unregistered - 360 11.10.2005 13:46
The 360 is a very nice machine, let me say that. Howver, they should have not even released it until 2006. I say that because they needed to give the software developers time to make the games and get used to the equipment. So then when the system is on shelves the games would wow the people, as it stands those demo's suck thus giving people the impression that the 360 is inferior when in reality it's not. It's very close to the ps3 specs, but poor software made it appear that way. So MS you need to put pressure on your developers to pump out the something better than the crap you have now.

130 - #130
Unregistered - Demonik 11.10.2005 14:21
Like I said before I'm going to buy both consoles for my own reasons this time, to be honest kid your another closed minded idiot who's dead to me since we'll never communicate in real life or see each other.



131 -
Unregistered - Demonik 11.10.2005 14:23
Hold it that Jason kids comment was deleted.

132 -
Unregistered - Demonik 11.10.2005 14:24
Damn I know I won't hear the end of this from the fanboys.

133 - #130
Unregistered - Warrior 11.10.2005 14:34
Lol you posted a comment to another person and it got deleted, let me savor the moment because you make yourself sound like a idiot who doesn't know anything about console gaming.

Are you stupid or something who's going to believe you anyways, you go off and say that you don't want a 360 and now you want one man you've already proven that your the bigger loser here.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


134 -
Unregistered - Warrior 11.10.2005 14:39
Hey guys check this guy out he say's that he doesn't want a xbox and now he wants the 360, this guy is hilarious he doesn't make any sense then he says that he was wrong what a idiot.



135 -
Unregistered - Warrior 11.10.2005 14:43
Let me rephrase that he say's that he's wrong, damn what is he going to say next that Santa Claus is real and that the tooth fairy takes teeth from kids and sells them to the bank.

136 - ps3 & 360 all the way
Unregistered - Nigel Sterling 11.10.2005 15:45
I know this is out there and off topic, did any of you watch Trading Spouses, I hate watching reality tv programs, but this fat christian lady was going all out saying that the other family practiced the dark arts it was crazy.

It wasn't true what she said about the other family, they were hippies she went on and on with so much gutter trash talk that it made me sick to watch that program anymore.






137 - you must be wrong
Unregistered - NOOOOOO 11.10.2005 15:51
WHAT SANTA"S Not real omg i hate you i have nothing to live for im gonna go cry in a drak hallway , theres nothing left of my soul now... im going to end my life........oh n the PS3 SUCKS

138 - 360 = PS3'S TOILET....DEAL WITH IT
Unregistered - BOBBY FISCHER 11.10.2005 15:54
IT'S NOT JUST A RUMOR

139 - # 138
Unregistered - kolopy 11.10.2005 16:11
what it swallows all the sh!t sony comes out with, and flushes it away so it cant harm anyone.

360 cleaning up the world. wohooooo!!!!


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Unregistered - FLAME ME IF YOU WANT 11.10.2005 16:11
does anyone here honestly want to own a 360 and enjoy it for years to come?
I for one am one of those people. But I just hope that the game developers utilize the 360 in everyway from software developement to the 20gb harddrive to the dvd9s. You can tell by the way J. Allard speaks that they are getting laxed over there at MS and are truly underestimating sony. The first thing they did wrong was not make the harddrive a standard. They need to get back to one reason the first xbox was so appealing, the 8mg harddrive was standard and the developers used it well. Then its the questionable media format, if developers say in about 3 years from now (if not sooner) wants more content cut seens or what have you they probably could'nt do it, but then the same developers putting extra contend on a blue ray disc for sony, would appear to be better thus making it seem as tho sony is better. Im not sayin one system is better than then other, im sayin that ms need to put the pressure on the software company's to really maintain their hold on the gaming market. After all specs dont sell systems, the games do.


141 - LOL LOL LOL
Unregistered - BOBBY FISCHER 11.10.2005 16:16
You XBOTS are comedy. I laugh outloud at you morons who by ported games like the new Tony Hawk and Gun and get raped for $60 bucks. Absolutely unexceptable to charge that much for total crap

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PAUL CERULA 11.10.2005 16:19
140, Right having a hard drive is a must for regular gamers and online gamers. I agree with that. But having it optional brings down the price by a hundred. Also there is a little storage, I forget how much, but it's the same as the xbox 1, where you can save checkpoints and little information like that.

So a hard drive isn't a must for little kids, that's what this xbox 360 core is for...I believe


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Unregistered - please explain 11.10.2005 16:35
The harddrive for the 360 is 20gb how is that not enough?

144 - @ 141
Unregistered - xbox 360 11.10.2005 16:39
Man when you right you right, I have to admit, I was thinking the exact same thing line for line word for word verbatim. How they gone port games from the xbox to the 360 and charge 60bucks for it, thats bogus as hell. Then how they gone charge 60bucks for a game thats only on dvd, what's with the hike in price.
Nothins different just a new system. Yeah Im still gettin my 360 but there are some questionable decisions on the behalf of MS. Oh and no im not buyin any ported games. MS is slippin.


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PAUL CERULA 11.10.2005 16:47
143, if that comment was to me, this is how its going to be.

Core
-8mb for saving checkpoints whatever

Premium
-Same as core and with the 20gb


146 -
Unregistered - got it 11.10.2005 16:49
I see

147 - Boy these Xbots are really hopeless
Unregistered - sony fan 11.10.2005 17:04
You know PS3 is a far better machine and is going to conquer the gaming world. Even gaming PC market will suffer from it. Your only hope is that Sony drops features or is incapable of delivering it. I'm sorry guys, these are only your pipe dreams. It's impossible that sony does that. If they drop features or launch the PS3 in 2007, they will lose. Yeah, i'm saying this, THEY WILL LOSE BADLY TO MS AND EVEN NINTENDO. Sony is smart enough not to make such horrible mistakes. They are console experts after being in this business for 10 years. They are the winner of last two generations not a novice starter company for god sake! How can you even think that sony won't deliver the PS3? When even Nintendo wants to launch the Revolution simultaneously like the 360, how can Sony launch the PS3 in 2007? Get a life and get out of your pipe dreams please. Xbox 360 is coming and fortunately you'll be playing it and will stop coming here. 360 is good but PS3 is the best. THE REAL NEXT GEN WILL BEGIN WITH PS3!

148 - PS3 advantages
Unregistered - sony fan 11.10.2005 17:32
1-The Cell cpu which is two times stronger than Xbox 360 cpu. It is potentially 10 times stronger than the best PC CPUs available today. Coding for it is harder but won't be a problem in the long run. Don't forget that IBM says this. You can't question it. IBM is neutral here and has interests in both sides.
2-Blu-ray which will be used for games not just movies.
3-More controlles,more USBs,Bluetooth
4-2 1080p channels
The difference won't be noticeble for the first year but PS3 will show it's superiority in 2007-2008.



149 - To #111
Unregistered - Jonga 11.10.2005 17:49
In that article they did not mention that most walmarts are not running their demo stations at 720p. How does the fact that the launch games are running on one thread mean its bad. If the games are looking this good on one thread imagine how they will look later.

150 - SMH @ THE LIES....
Unregistered - GAMER IN GENERAL 11.10.2005 17:53
lol, it's also funny that a ps3 fan would acuse an xbox fan of having pipe dreams when in reality thats all you have dealing with Ken. He's been selling you dreams for years. And this is no different. Now i've never owned a xbox a day in my life, im still playing the ps2 and I remember getting it when it first launched based off of sony's words, the ps2 turned out to be sh!t. So you can miss me with that sounding like a sony commercial BullSh!t. The ps3 will be no better than the xbox 360, there are so many holes in your theory that the whole thing just fell apart. I may even end up with ps3 after a few price drops, but if I never get one im good with the 360. And remember that majority of the xbox fans had either a ps1 or ps2, so trust me we know what were are talking about and if you are full of it or not and in this case you are. The 360 is the shiznit, but I gotta admit the demo's are trash. LOL you may not even get the ps3 til 08' so stfu it's more than obvious you don't know what you are talking about, if you're going to rep a comp. atleast know the product, Idiot!

151 - 149 GO TO THE LINK BELOW AND IT'LL TELL YOU EVERYTHING INCLUDING WALMART RUNNING GAMES AT 480P AWWFUL.
Unregistered - READ THIS.... 11.10.2005 18:01
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27249

152 - 148
Unregistered - theonenonly 11.10.2005 18:09
Reasons why it dosent matter.

1.NO games will ever take full advantage of either X360 or PS3'3 CPU in the consoles lifecycle unless SOny is planing a 15 year lifecycle. Both or overly lopsided on the CPu side.

2.Blueray is a slight advantage because of HD movies but the worst the 360 could fair is having 2 disk games latter on.

3.Who the fvck has 2 1080p screens and next to no games will support this feature even if the PS3 can do it which is yet to be proven and I dought it. Youlle gat a froame rate of 3fps with 2 1080 p screens.

4. More Controllers! Tell the truth who is actually gonna play 7 way split screens. $ is more than enough.

5. Bluetooth is cool but I dont need my game console to have it. 2.4ghz wirless is also enough.

They will both have good games and good exclusive games. If you like games on a console then buy the console, and stop worrying about which one is more porwerfull. What happened to the good old days of N64. No one ever compared n64's cpu to PS1's cpu or made the decision of which one to buy based off of that. This argument is ridiculus and im an idiot just for replying to you.

I dont like the direction gameconsoles are going. GO NINTENDO


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PAUL CERULA 11.10.2005 18:20
151, that article only means that xbox 360 is going to be so, so, much better than the launch titles. This is a given already, they pumped out a couple of games real quick and went the easy way. This is probably why a few games were pushed back. Six months from now xbox 360 games and ps3 games will be very very close to the same performance so...yah

154 -
PAUL CERULA 11.10.2005 18:27
To add, you'll only notice the difference like 3 years from now, which will still be a small difference, and insignificant to your decision. You shouldn't get the ps3 because it just topples over xbox 360's performance.

mmmmkay, Just get the console that fits what you want out a video game system, not based on performance. Inless your looking at the Revolution, you need not worry about performance, just what games and functions you want.


155 - Spoken by a true one and only idiot
Unregistered - Sam 11.10.2005 18:29
Since the 360 wont have it you decide its not needed huh, Why, do you know for a fact the PS3 will cost alot more. NOPE you dont. Your just trying to make yourself feel better. Good luck with that. PS3 will be great, and I will enjoy watching movies on Blu-ray. I have also heard of pre-orders for the 360 being dropped, must be true.

156 - thats for 152
Unregistered - Sam 11.10.2005 18:30
By the way.

157 - thats for 152
Unregistered - Sam 11.10.2005 18:30
By the way.

158 -
Unregistered - theonenonly 11.10.2005 18:40
IM NOT BUYING XBOX360 FOR ITS POWER IM BUYING IT FOR THE GAMES AND THE ONLINEPLAY. Where the Fvck did i saay ps3 is more expensive in that post you goon.

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PAUL CERULA 11.10.2005 18:48
It's not that ps3 won't cost more, it's just that it comes without a few things. This is how I see it.

400...Xbox 360 Premium, 20gb, Headset, Remote, Wireless Cont.
300...Xbox 360 Core, Wired cont.

400...Ps3 console, Wireless

The price of the ps3 is what you would expect, I mean 6 months to drive down the price and that's what you get. Now don't say 400 after tax, that's not going to happen. They're gonna keep it a whole rounded number of 399.00 just like all businesses do cause it makes it seem like less money to the consumer.


160 - SPARTAN OF 777
Unregistered - SPARTAN~~~ 11.10.2005 19:04
Hey dude... If you are such a guru in the ways of platform selling... How do you know if Sony won't come with it's own premium sells pack (PS3 350$, Prem 400$) ?



161 -
PAUL CERULA 11.10.2005 19:55
#160, because Sony themselves frowned upon two different packages so their going to give the most basic and standard Console at a fixed and respectable price.

162 - to comment 136
Havoc 11.10.2005 20:11
yea I seen the show, that lady was so crazy, said she is a christian warrior.

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Unregistered - Kan't wait to get my three sixty 11.10.2005 20:19
if sony sells ps3 for 400bucks id be so suprised, i swear i feel like its going to be more like 499, and no i dont have proof its just a gut feeling.

164 - to comment 161
Havoc 11.10.2005 20:28
yea, I think sony said the ps3 will be bundled with a selection of preloaded films, TV programs and games. But I don't know if they will sell them at differetnt prices.

165 - Funny "quotes" by SPARTAN OF 777
Bill Gates 11.10.2005 21:06
"Havoc, well of course the launch titles of xbox 360 will be worse than the launch titles of the ps3."

"that article only means that xbox 360 is going to be so, so, much better than the launch titles. This is a given already, they pumped out a couple of games real quick and went the easy way. This is probably why a few games were pushed back. Six months from now xbox 360 games and ps3 games will be very very close to the same performance so...yah"

"Just get the console that fits what you want out a video game system, not based on performance. Inless your looking at the Revolution, you need not worry about performance, just what games and functions you want."

"if sony sells ps3 for 400bucks id be so suprised, i swear i feel like its going to be more like 499, and no i dont have proof its just a gut feeling."

"They're gonna keep it a whole rounded number of 399.00 just like all businesses do cause it makes it seem like less money to the consumer."

"So a hard drive isn't a must for little kids, that's what this xbox 360 core is for...I believe"


Word of advice kid, STFU. You make absolutely no sence with your stupid predictions. With every new news post your opinion keeps sounding more and more ridiculous. Just admit that you're more excited for the PS3 than you are for your 360. The last quote about the hard drive, is probably about the dumbest thing that has come out of your fingers. LOL


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Unregistered - bill 11.10.2005 21:16
billy you hate anything that downgrades sony's hype, this is the truth and very accurate predictions. Until you bring solid facts against my hypothesis' and my facts, do yourself a favor and stop being someone who just puts down xbox 360 consumers. I'm not a fanboy, just like to even the scales to what both consoles will deliver

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Unregistered - I saw it 11.10.2005 21:22
Yo, didn't she look posessed tho. That biznitched look scary like she needed an exorcist or somethin'. LOL

168 - #166 (I think it's u spartan)
Bill Gates 11.10.2005 21:28
I could give 3 sh!ts for the PS3, xbox 360, or the Revolution at this point. Non of these systems are out yet, and there are plenty of great games coming soon, or out now for the current systems. I don't pretend to know anything about these systems that wasn't oficially anounced by the company themselves. I'll be getting all three systems at the time when I'm ready to purchase them. Until then I'll just wait for your next prediction for me to have a little laughter. You video industry guru.LOL

169 -
Unregistered - bill 11.10.2005 21:31
So bill why are you here if you are only waiting for them to come out you loser

170 - 167
Bill Gates 11.10.2005 21:31
I wanted to watch that episode. I totally forgot about it. That woman was focking nuts. LOL..I would love to meet her and start acting all possessed around her to see what she would do.LOL


171 -
Bill Gates 11.10.2005 21:32
for a good laugh at stupid people like yourself. see HAHA LOL

172 - bill gates
Unregistered - kolopy 11.10.2005 21:37
you must be one sad mofo if you went through all spartans post's just to pick out the quotes, something tells me you have no life, and to make things worse i got last word coz im going now byeeeeeeeeee.

hola!


173 - above
Bill Gates 11.10.2005 21:56
It's not my fault you're a slow reader. Also it's not hard to find Spartan, when he's all over the site, and all his comments are crap. So how you would say "hola" you homo. LOL

174 - NOW A XBOX FAN!!!
Unregistered - ONCE A SONY FAN... 11.10.2005 22:18
SONY=PS3=PONY=FONY=LIES=CRAP XBOX360>PS3 JUST DEAL WITH IT =)

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Unregistered - Controllers 11.10.2005 22:49
Hey, I read in an online article that sony has asked logitech to design a controller for them. Do you guys realize what this means. That concept boomerang design would probably be gone but, logitech is going to come up with an awesome design and wireless controller. They did the controller for the 360 which is phenominal. I can't wait to see the final result.


176 - to comment 175
Havoc 11.10.2005 23:51
yea logitech just made a wireless joystick for the ps2 and alot of game websites gave it a score of 9.0. So when it comes to controllers and peripherals I guess logitech is the way to go. I like the design of the ps3, it looks slick but the controller is not to pretty I hope it comes out just right.

177 - to comment 175
Havoc 11.10.2005 23:55
hey where did you find that artical, because it could just be a rumor even though I did hear this somewhere elese but I didn't see a artical about it.

178 - Sucks for you guys!
Unregistered - asdf 11.11.2005 00:05
Haha, you guys just keep getting screweder and screweder

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Unregistered - controllers 11.11.2005 00:05
I don't even remember off hand but tell you what im going right now and look for it then i'll come back and give it to. brb

180 -
Unregistered - asf 11.11.2005 00:42
if the ps3 is a super computer then is sony gonna be in the software business or we can install the window xp?

181 -
Unregistered - ps3 rocks 11.11.2005 00:49





EVERYONE - SILENCE - HEAR ME


PS3 IS BASICALLY THE SAME IN PERFORMANCE TO THE XBOX 360

ASK DEVELOPERS AND PROGRAMMERS




WAKE UP






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Unregistered - even ps fans have to admit 11.11.2005 01:17
PGR3 for xbox360 looks increadable I dont care how hardcore a ps3 fan you are.

Newest Trailer Just released.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=8417&type=wmv


183 - HAHAHAHA~~ Listen to me...
Unregistered - AH 11.11.2005 01:28
YES

THE PERFORMANCE IS COMPARIBLE


BUT.... IF YOU WANT TO INVEST YOUR EQUIMENT ON GAMES



LOOK UP A GAME CALLED "ENCHANTED ARMS"


THE COMPANY IS HAVING DIFFICULT FITTING ALL THE INFORMATION EVEN INTO



DUAL LAYER DVD


SO ... HOW IS THAT FOR FUTURE OF THE XBOX360 ?


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Unregistered - CK 11.11.2005 01:30
Man, the 360 is bragging about being hd and wireless which is cool cause I want one, but then look at the headphone for online, it's the same as the old ones and it you gotta plug it into the controller, why couldn't they have it like one of those cell phone ear peices at least you know make it look sleek and futuristic, i know it seems like a small thing but one thing that i've learned is that its the little things in life that matter the most.

185 - 183 LOL
Unregistered - You're an idiot 11.11.2005 01:32
You're trying to be an @ss but look at the very topic of the forum lol.

186 -
Unregistered - how's this 11.11.2005 01:45




BLU RAY WILL NEVER BE MAINSTREAM FOR 7-10 YEARS --- IF AT ALL


ENCHANTED ARMS ISN'T COMPRESSED TO WHAT IT SHOULD BE, THAT'S THE GAME MAKERS FAULT.


SWITCHING DISKS IS INCONSIQUENTIAL TO THE GAMEPLAY YOU MORON





187 -
Havoc 11.11.2005 02:00
Im starting to get tired of this, we argue over the same thing constantly, it's a continuous cycle. I here the same arguments over and over but yet I sometimes take part in them, But I'm getting exhausted, maybe we just need something new to argue about.

188 -
Unregistered - what out now..... 11.11.2005 03:10
Nothing to argue about, sony always provides the more practical systems everytime, though graphically the 360 and ps3 would be very close if not the same. The of course the ps3 has, blu ray, blu tooth, going for it, and the 360 has, compression, 2.4gh, and also the 20gb hd, and the ability to make custom soundtracks for ingame play, the customs soundtrack is what attracts me to the 360, so basically it's a matter of preference, the most powerful doesn't mean that's the number one seller. Get what best suits you, The 360 is the one for me. Who know's after a few price drops (alot of them) I may end up with a ps3 but if I had to choose only one then Im going with the 360.......

189 - #150,#152 hah,Two more hopless Xbots!
Unregistered - sony fan 11.11.2005 03:59
"the ps2 turned out to be sh!t." OMFG! This is an outrage! Keep your opinion to yourself pal, i don't need it. ps2 was great and had the best games. resident evil4-god of war-shadow of collosus-socom3-....have you seen these new ps2 games? xbox only had a bunch of watered down PC ports,Halo,and some other junk titles. the ps2 hardware wasn't as good as xbox yes i know but it came 1.5 year before the xbox.Sony didn't have a real competitor while they were designing it and this is what happens when there isn't competition. These are companies afterall. This time MS is a real worthy competitor and they can't under deliver. They will launch the PS3 in mid 2006, "probably" worldwide.

To #152:
PS3 exclusives will use that power. even now pc developers are going to support dual core. guess what happens in 2008-2009? When pc cpus will become quad core and will blow xbox cpu out of water. i don't know,perhaps MS wants to cram another xbox down your throats in 2009? perhaps 360 is designed for a 3 year life cycle? You only try to be narrow minded saying we don't need this ,we don't need that. Just because you don't have it doesn't mean it's useless.1080p will become mainstream in 2007.


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Unregistered - wotter 11.11.2005 07:55
Funny that all these 'rumors' are from microsoft/xboxfanboys. You can't imagine better publicity, sony doesn't even need to promote their ps3 next year, everyone is already talking about it! En yes pgr3 does look beautiful (just as cod2), but gt5 will also look great or even better. En remember, one good game doesn't sell a console.

191 -
Unregistered - DeepFreezed 11.11.2005 09:31
For all those Pony lovers that say PS3 is going to be better than XBOX3 360, I ask you this question.

When is PONY 3 being released? From what I hear it will be another year and maybe three more months till an average user can get hold of it and not pay outrageous amounts for bundled crap.

Why Don't PONY wait another 3 years and put out a 6GHz cell? Or wait another 5 years and put out a 1-terabit cell?

Hardware is measured on time that is released. By the time PONY releases it's PONY those specs will just be ordinary....


192 - LOL, u guyz still going at it
Unregistered - dragn avengr 11.11.2005 09:54
PS3 coming out March 2003 only in JAPAN...no date release on march. they only say release on march. WW... no data

193 -
Unregistered - 1080p mainstreem in 2007 lol. 11.11.2005 10:54
You think 1080P will be mainstreem in one year from now. HD tvs have been around for several years and still less than 10% of people have them. 1080p tvs will not be maintreem in 2007. By the way mainstreem means most people have it.

190: Of corse GT5 will look great. Im excited about PGR3 because in is comming out in 11 day and is one of those so called crappy launch titles. GT5 will be out a least a Year after. Im expecting it to look better than PGR3.


194 - DONT BELIEVE IN THE HYPE
Unregistered - pshizle360 11.11.2005 13:25
Sony=FONY=SURVEY=showing thier colors every day LOL!!!

I NEED REAL GAMEPLAY AND NOT SOME CGI OR MOVIES PLS!!!

OOOH YAA I HEARD THEIR ONLINE SUCKS AND OOH WAIT SO DOES THOSE GRAPHIX!!!

THX SONY FOR A CRAPY PRODUCT PS2.5 =(

XBOX360>PS3



195 - To idiot #186
Unregistered - Sam 11.11.2005 13:31
Blu-ray will take on faster than you think, It has all the support from every major Studio and every major electronics company. I mean lets look at the UMD which is getting bigger and bigger despite the fact only the PSP can play it. Now if you have a Blu-ray hybrid that plays on both regular dvd and Blu-ray players (for when people are ready to switch) then it can easily take on very quickly. Especially once the players come down in price. And since Blu-ray plays old dvd's as well theres nothing to stop it. PS3 will sell millions more than the PSP, and people will buy it also to use as a Blu-ray player much the same as people that bought their children or themselves a PS2 cause it was a dvd player at a time when dvd players cost quite a bit more than it did. Dont say they didnt cause I did and I know several others that did as well. Blu-ray will take on quicker than dvd did cause its the same thing people are used to now with more power and better quality and has complete backwards compatabilty with dvd. It will just fall into place.

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Unregistered - PLEASE READ WITH AN OPEN MIND 11.11.2005 15:56
lol just because a system has more power than the other doesn't mean it wont or can't fail. Neither system will fail but don't say because sony has more power it will succeed. It's what the software makers do with the power that dictates the success of a system. Ps2 exceeded in sales, dispite it being a peice of sh!t. The xbox was better interms of graphics and stuff but the numbers were'nt where ms wanted to be, still for a first time console they did well, and this time may be a little different. Ms has delievered a product that was better than there first one and is a little more aggressive and sony is no doubt going to copy some of that seeing as they are releasing after ms. I see a trend already, first they tried to copy the online thing but failed at it so now it's back to square one, now look, ms had logitech to design them the great controller that they have now for the 360, sony just solicited logitech to do thier design, the first xbox had nvidia for graphics, now sony has them now if it works out for sony that's good, but I don't really see them being the conosles to end all consoles their only a competitor, the games are what's going to dictate, sales thus make a console number one.


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Unregistered - Keep it real Kid. 11.11.2005 16:01
Sony is so quick to call the xbox 360 the 1.5, but if that's really true then the ps3 is the ps2 1.5, truthful they will be about the same in terms of what they can do, they just went about it in different ways, sony opted for blue ray, ms chose compression, Sony chose blue tooth, ms chose 2.4gh, but both are wireless, I mean it's little things like that, sony doesn't have ingame custom soundtrack, sony may have a little more crisp image in terms of graphics, I mean really sony is not all that you are making it out to be. NO im not putting it down im just saying be real, be honest, like people are saying ps3 is not an end all console its a competitor. I'm getting a 360, because one I like it and two I refuse to give into all the hype of the ps3.

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Unregistered - BS3 SUCKS 11.11.2005 16:04
yet another negative point for the BS3. that mean no renting games at the video store. haha. everyday there is something negative about the BS3. FONY is a company that tells lies and have empty promises. first they said the BS3 would be 100% compatible but now they only have 40 BS games and 8 BS2 games. yet another lie. and of course the online line play. sony wants the game developpers to have there own servers. how sad is that. BS will never be abbel to compete with LIVE. 360 will kick all your bullstation asses.

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Unregistered - gamer 11.11.2005 16:59
hahah seems like ps3 is getting far more worser every day first of showing fools like you cgi movies and you believing there real then loosing developers then the crappy online system now you cant buy pre owned games sony sucks big time LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH what the hell is ken playing at sony isnt going to win nothing if these latest setbacks prove to be true still il only believe the ps3 to be more powerfull when i have a in game video of a game playin as for now sony aint showed nothing so no one can judge but oh well even if it is more powerfull hu gives a damm halo 3 and gears of war will rip sonys lineup appart oh and also miscrosofts secret weapon xbox live hahaha

200 - MORONS
Unregistered - me 11.11.2005 17:49
This has already been confirmed to be untrue...sorry XBOTS

201 - lol, morons? How's this for morons, sony is going bankrupt. What kind of service will you be getting from a bankrupt co. None, soon there will be no ps3 sooner will be closing it's doors, or even before they do may delay the ps3 indefintely, you see they keep pushing back the launch date, now who's the MORON, lol moron.
Unregistered - . 11.11.2005 18:05
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202 - oopp
Unregistered - dragn avengr 11.11.2005 19:43
#192, i mean 2006 not 2003.

203 - Facts and rumor
Unregistered - cweber 11.11.2005 21:24
Ok, first off, I've read through the entire patent several times and after a much unwanted headache I understood it. there is no mention of what disk format it is used as, but it is some manner of optical disk. Second, the patent is >5 years old, if you look at the dates. I do think that sony would like to throw this system into the PS3 but I believe that even with all their proprietary BS that they love they realize that it would be commercial suicide, they are going to be going up against the 360 that will have been out a year and already will have a library of games, and they will need all the advantage they can get to bring the war up about even. as to all the Flaming that is insuing on these comments, why?? it is a rumor right now, no one will know for sure what will happen when the PS3 is released, personally I will not be getting either system for a while. I don't plan on getting a 360 mainly because I don't want to give bill gates any more money. I will never buy a first gen system, they are always too buggy. there is no point in saying 360 is better than PS3 because no one knows yet, nor is there a point in saying the PS3 is going to waylay the 360, as much as I would like it it is doubtful, sony is hurting, and hurting bad... they are looking at things all wrong they think their rights are being abused and so they are taking some drastic measures in the whole DRM front, if they would focus more on content instead of how to protect their content they wouldn't be hurting as bad. any-hoo I hope sony does come out on top just because I hate M$. LONG LIVE THE PENGUIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Unregistered - Sam 11.12.2005 10:13
Sony is not about to go bankrupt and besides, if they did it doesnt mean anything, Do you know that Donald Trumpt has filed for Bankruptcy several times and continues to do so? This wont be used and PS3 will succeed over 360 just as they did over xbox. All the xbox fans need to go back to their site and irratate someone there. Stop trying to spread your dreams and fantasies here cause we all know better, course so do yall, your just trying to make yourselves feel better for getting a current generation machine when it was supposed to be NEXT generation. Hey, Ive seen it and played it. Its ok but not great.

205 - Truth
Unregistered - sony sucks 11.13.2005 03:54
I've seen and played the 360 as well and I loved it, no the demos arent good at all but it doesnt take away from the system cause the games will get better soon enough. Those demos pretty much sucked, but the 360 is still great. Sony is trash rehashed titles no thanks. Ms definitely could have done better with the demo disks. But it's still more than what sony is offering.
These people have soooo much faith in the ps3 considering the ps3 does not exist it's in development and the specs could and would change and not really for the better, and yes they are having major whoas with the cell processor and it may not run the numbers like they wanted, the 360 is up and running at the specs announced. On top of that the ps3 maybe dalayed 07 or 08 who the hell will wait that long just because it says sony certainly not me. Nov 22, 2005 people will be enjoying thier systems and Dec 25, 2005 alot of people will recieve them as gifts. By the time spring 06 comes the game support and quality would start to pick up and people will be online and its just a beautiful thing, and you will still be on this site comparing specs, and looking at mgs4 movies, how lame, thats dumb retarded. By the time the ps3 does launch if it ever launches, the 360 would have had a price drop or two which would make it even more attractive, come on now use your brains no one give a f*ck about sony.
You read your psm magazines and let that stuff into your minds and you believe it when in reality its all marketing, case and point. I was reading in the psm magazine about some game show some months back, they showed a asian woman sitting in an area designated for the xbox 360 with a controller in her hand looking into the camera, and behind her were like 4 people around a monitor or something, and the caption read sony's ps3 was the life of the party even tho sony only displayed movies and no real game footage, now im thinking how is that the life of the party, to be honest the lady in the pic probably was asked to take that pic before the party started it just didnt look right, you have a fully functional system and hi def tv, with no one playing and 4 people in the back alledgly look at sony footage, total bs. I hate sony. 360 all the way.


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Unregistered - STFU 11.13.2005 04:00
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207 - To be honest I don't care which one has more power, im still the xbox 360.
Unregistered - 360 11.13.2005 21:27
360

208 -
Unregistered - dik 11.14.2005 15:59
is this gonna work?

209 -
Unregistered - sjgn 11.14.2005 21:54
did anyone READ the patent? Click on the link, go down to the description section. It's not what they say, it's just an anti-counterfeit device. Duh.

210 - man!!
Unregistered - zulu 11.15.2005 07:37
stupid americans.... make me feel smart... Just like you're president.

211 - this is a false rumour
Unregistered - that guy 11.15.2005 10:52
It has been confirmed by Sony that this is a false rumour. The patent will not be implimented in the PS3. Any Ps3 game will be playable in all PS3 machines. For more info please check out this site:

http://news.spong.com/detail/news.asp

This should clear up people worried about it.

Now, I was watching G4 (I know... I have no idea why) and a developer was on with the crew of G4 and talking about the next generation of consoles. He went on about how good the 360 is to develop for and bla bla bla... then the guy asked if he thinks the PS3 will be a better machine.

This is the funny part.

He avoided the question... saying that the PS3 has extra time and will have stronger technology... but the 360 is a fine machine.

This makes it obvious that he wants to sell his games now and did not want to sway anyone into not buying a 360. However, he could not say that the 360 was just as powerful or comment on how much better the PS3 will be.

It was kinda like going to buy a computer and you say to the sales guy:
"isn't a new processor comming out that is twice as fast next week"

and the sales guy says...
"well, yeah, but this is all you will ever need, so you should buy this now"

The xbox fans are not reading the specs. specs dont lie.


212 - Chess Champ
Unregistered - Bobby Fischer 11.17.2005 20:51
You're talking out of your ass. Why do you people gossip so much. Honestly. Take it up with Sony. Do you think that the Xbox 360 or Nintendo Revolution will do the same thing.

213 - that is so dumb
Unregistered - ??????????? 11.18.2005 13:19
how can they do that i sell my ps2 games to my friends and stuff i think that they should not do that crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

214 - Xbox360 is not cool
Unregistered - pokeFANATIC 11.27.2005 20:15
be careful. you might step in xbox's bs. my mind is made up already iam getting a ps3

215 - :|
Unregistered - Andrew 11.28.2005 11:25
If this is true then how stupid!!!! Not all people can afford to buy games new all the time :(

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