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09 Nov 2005 11:23 | Dusty | Playstation 3 PS3Today.com | Link to this article
A story is making its way around cyberspace today at lighting speed, with the worrying message that Sony is planning to prevent people from playing pre-owned games on their PS3. The source of this rumor is a patent document that Sony holds on a technology which can prevent games from being played on any other machine than the game first was played on. "A device and method for protection of legitimate software against used software and counterfeit software in recording media. The device includes a disk is set in a main unit. A specific title code is read, and if this title code has been registered, the main unit shifts to a normal operation. If the code has not been registered, verification software is initiated, PG detection is performed, and when a PG pattern and verification data match, the code is registered in the COCT. If matching does not occur, the disk is processed as illegitimate software." The PS3 isn’t mentioned anywhere in the patent, but is obviously a Sony product where such a technology could be used, not that it would ever happen, or so we hope… Source: Gamerandy.com via Joystiq.com Add Comment Unregistered - Kutaragi 11.09.2005 11:36 J.Allard is the one who probably posts all the news here... LOL Unregistered - SURE 11.09.2005 11:54 Here we go.. fueling the fire of xbox fanboys again. Getting a patent means nothing. And before everyone starts flaming let me mention this.. Nintendo has a patent for mind controlling and a system of reading brain impulses to react to on screen images. Seriously. It does. do a Patent search. Does that mean Revolution will have brain control? Unregistered - theonenonly 11.09.2005 11:56 Here we go bad news for Sony means Microsoft made it up. I mean really its not posible for there to be any setbacks with PS3. I mean it is made be Sony and they are perfect in every way. Quite writing off evey SOny rumor that is negative off on MS and tacking ever PS3 rumor that is positive and taking it as fact like it was stated by the Pope. If this was about the x360 you guys would. say oh dreamcast360 sucks blah blah blah bnlah blah. Unregistered - you said what? 11.09.2005 12:01 I never blamed M$ for anything. I did not even mention anything about the company at all. I simply predicted an onslaught of xbox fans comming in here and dissing this info as something the PS3 will impliment. And I am sure I am right. I am simply trying to point out that Patents do not indicate usage. I am sure Sony will not use this on the PS3. Patents are secured so that other people can not claim an invention and profit from it. Sony does these preventative patents all the time. In fact, check this one out: http://www.redassedbaboon.com/blog/?ct_id=99 even thought the site name is funny.. it is a serious article. Do you think they will apply this invention to the PS3?!?! I doubt it. Unregistered - theonenonly 11.09.2005 12:02 I mean this just an unconfimed rumor but there are alot of fears about blueray ending all the freedom that we experiance with the dvd even stuff as harmless as making baskups. It was adressed by epics Mark Rein that Blueway could also force people to buy copyprotected telivisons to play blue ray stuff. This also is not fact but there is alot of stuff to condider when adopting a new disk forma not jsut how much space it can hold per disk. Unregistered - Akakage 11.09.2005 12:14 I believe this patent is probably for the sony laptops, but I can't dismiss the fact that Sony could and would do something like this. Lets look at the facts.. 1.) Piracy takes away from Sony's profits. If this software prevents copies of games being made or played on the PS3 then will be willing to try it, if the used market suffers from it...so be it. 2.) Sony does not make any profit from the sale of used games, only new sales. When retailers buy new games they buy them from the manufacturers..ie..sony, microsoft, namco..etc. Used games are purchased from the consumer, and then resold from the store. Imagine how much more money Sony would make if everyone had to buy NEW PS3 games and accessories? 3.) Finally trade-in/used game sales are not allowed in Japan. This is one of the reasons Famitsu is so popular and respected. Once you buy a game in japan you are stuck with it, so people look to Famitsu's reviews so that they don't buy something that completely sucks. This system has been in place for a long time and japanese gamers still support them, why not make it mandatory for ps3? Hurray for Blu-Ray huh? Like I said this more than likely is not gonna happen, but it is a very real possibility. Unless PS3's are all connected to each other at all times via some wireless connection that spans the globe I would say the easy thing to do would be don't connect your PS3 to the net. Unless there is some mandatory registration thing that sony has built into the "all-powerful" cell processor. Probably won't happen..but it could happen. Unregistered - PS3Player 11.09.2005 12:22 Guys relax, do like me, go play some Soccom, get on with your life and come back here when you here news directly from sony which i presume will be in February, in the meantime let the 360 fans come here and argue among themselves, we got so many great games coming out at the end of this year, so go play them. Oh yeah for the guy who said that the 360 will be successful because it's already sold out all over the country. Shut up, last time i checked MS was only shipping about 1 million 360 to North America, why wouldn't they be sold out, when we PS3 fans say that the PS3 will dominate that doesn't mean that the 360 won';t sell, in the contrary it will sell just as much as the Xbox and that's about it. Can you guysbeleive that almost every 360 games have been delayed oops "Compression" (edited by moderator) #60 is another dreamcast and will suffer the same fate unless BillGates decides to let the cash flow to obscure his faillure. The 360 is a simple piece of computer, nothing more nothing less and i'm not impressed end of the story. TO PS3PLAYER: You don't post often, but everytime you do, I have to edit your comments. If this continues, you will be banned. -Moderator Unregistered - JIN KAZAMA 11.09.2005 12:27 HEY, does anyone know how to beat the sand snake collossus? I believe its the 10th one, and I cannot beat that fool. I believe it might have something to do with getting on the horse and having the sand snake chase you, but i dont know what to do after that. Any help would be appreciated. Unregistered - HOOO RAAAAA 11.09.2005 12:36 If that's the case then what is a ps3? You morons talk like you know soooo much, when in reality you don't know (edited). The 360 will do alot better than you think certainly alot better than the first xbox. This is indeed a new ball game and MS is off to a great start on inwhich sony fears(hate or love it). The 360 is a powerful gaming machine which is being put down my brainwashed sony fanatics who are so closed minded that they can't get passed the fact that sony is on the ropes and ms is on the rise. Only a computer? the what the hell is the Ps3. The both perform the same task, playing video games. (edited) Unregistered - 9 11.09.2005 12:40 Shoot the eyes when riding the horse. Unregistered - JIN KAZAMA 11.09.2005 12:45 Sweet, thanks for the tip. Unregistered - wotter 11.09.2005 12:49 Wasn't this a rumor spread at the IGN forum? Well, nuff said :p What I don't like about this site, is that they keep posting negative stuff about the ps3 that A) Are not confirmed by Sony B)Are mostly not true C)Spread by stupid xboxfanboys who think playstation is going to suck and xbox is going to rule because ...blabla Unregistered - LOGITECH 11.09.2005 12:50 I really like the 360's controller. I hate sony's concept controller. Logitech worked with the 360's controller. Sony runs up behind logitech to do the same. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Unregistered - ps3 is wiggy wiggy wack! lol 11.09.2005 13:04 This is no rumor, and it definitely wasn't start by J. Allard. MS is working on releasing their highly anticipated xbox 360 for a world wide launch. The last thing they have time for is making up stories about ps3, Ken does enough of that. Be a man, and suck it up. The ps3 is not all that. Yeah there are some things that you'll hear that you'll like about the ps3 and then there's somethings you're not going to like and this is one of them. This is not the console to end all consoles like you think. This is only a competitor. Ken has slick talk, and great marketing skills that's it. Get over it. Unregistered - Daddy 11.09.2005 13:05 Ha-ha (Nelson Voice) Unregistered - Cynical Gamer 11.09.2005 13:59 #6 your comment about the sale of used games being outlawed in Japan is pure rubbish. If you've spent any time out there you'd be familiar with Liberty - the second hand chain in Akihabara. They sell games, DVD's CD's etc. The real reason there is no real market for trade in is the aggressive nature of discounting over there. Buy any game on launch day and expect to pay full price. Wait a few weeks to a month and the price has dropped substantially. No one is going to give you a fair price for a second hand game when you can buy it new for a knock down price anyway. Unregistered - sjl;fkjsd;lfk 11.09.2005 14:38 Bah this is old news of CD/DVD-+ ripping............ Nothing bout ps3 Unregistered - HAHAHAHA 11.09.2005 15:09 One more reason to turn you ps3 into a toilet seat (which i will do and then ill post the pics all over the internet so you can see what the ps3 was really made for) and another reason to get a 360 lol ps3 really sucks now oh man score for MS oh yea eat it ps3 fanlosers hahaahaha Unregistered - wotter 11.09.2005 15:29 How do you know ps3 is going to suck? Do you have one at home? I guess not, djeezes i didn't know 6 year old toddlers could surf the internet. Unregistered - wotter 11.09.2005 15:33 OMFG PEOPLE ITS A HOAX !!! Patent is for cd800 (800mb or music cd), not a blu-ray. Debunked rumor! PAUL CERULA 11.09.2005 15:56 I have to get this out there With the ps3 all your going to be getting that the xbox 360 can't match is the blu-ray drive. Which is not needed in itself. A double DVD can handle all the next gen HD games after compression. And who cares if you have to switch disks if that's even needed. Also PS3 DOESN'T have online so why do you insist that it is so... much better. WAKE UP FANBOYS AND TAKE BOTH CONSOLES FOR WHAT THEIR WORTH PAUL CERULA 11.09.2005 16:04 Even if blu-ray, not HD-dvd becomes mainstream it's going to be like 6-10 years before their practical. And no way is blu-ray going to cast anything from video games until then. It won't be 2-3 years. Mathoss 11.09.2005 16:18 You are right spartan but you dont more then the end of your nose. Let me put it in a simple way so you can understand: Compressing means de-compressing. De-compressing means CPU usage. CPU usage means less power for other task. Less power means slower machine. Still think Blu-ray is not an advantage... PAUL CERULA 11.09.2005 16:22 Still you can do without and not infringe on it's total output of performance. Still blu-ray would of been nice, but it can be done without Unregistered - deepFreezed 11.09.2005 16:27 PS3 is another year away. By that time gaming hardware will be so far ahead that PS3 wouldn't be so revolutionary, rather than Ps3 being next gen it would be just another game console. By that time PONY fan boys can rev about how games are not all about hardware etc… Have fun waiting for your PONY :-D PAUL CERULA 11.09.2005 16:51 #25, I never thought of it like that, that's interesting. I think this site is over run by people getting the xbox 360. Ohh well. Unregistered - sony fan 11.09.2005 16:52 What if you change your console? Buy another one for any reason?In that case all of your games library won't work. Guys this is just a childish stupid rumor,don't believe it.This is pure BS. Unregistered - 360 fan 11.09.2005 17:22 When ever you start to doubt this topic, just go back to post number 14, he hit the nail dead on the head. It was written for BS3 freaks like you who just can't be a man about the situation. READ IT AND WEAP! Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 17:22 Your completely right, I mean what if your PS3 breaks down after warranty? you buy a new PS3, none of your games will work on it, thats stupid. Unregistered - just sharing my thoughts to you brain washed maggots. 11.09.2005 17:26 Even if that's the case, we still have the hd to cache, I mean lets face it, MS has done a great job, you nerds just can't deal with it. Yo, I like post 14 as well I mean you can't argue that. No matter how hard you try, and yes xbox fans are over running this site, cause you are all followers you need to wake up. And before you say, that you are'nt a follower, why wait til 2020 for the ps3 when the 360 will be out before christmas if you're a gamer. I'll tell you why cause you are mentally in what the heart of the ps3 is, a cell. Post 14 was the post to end all post, as he/she would put it. Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 17:28 Can you stop saying PS3 will have no online play? because that is BS, online will be the same as PS2 left to the developers, get a life dumb ass. Unregistered - sony fan 11.09.2005 17:28 A system like that will create chaos, it's not logical. i don't believe a nonsense like that.i only believe when sony officially announce that. Unregistered - It's good to play together 11.09.2005 17:30 lol, 29 knows the console will break down they are so used to it lol then sony will brag about sales. lol BS3 indeed. Unregistered - silentscope 11.09.2005 17:32 ha ha ha, looks like trouble in paradise for all you ps3 fanboys ha ha ha, i cant help but laugh in your faces Unregistered - lol the truth and they call us xbots, what morons! 11.09.2005 17:32 32 - This is pure BS! Unregistered - sony fan 11.09.2005 17:28 A system like that will create chaos, it's not logical. i don't believe a nonsense like that.i only believe when sony officially announce that. PAUL CERULA 11.09.2005 17:33 #31, you know what I meant by no online, no unified online. Without that online is complete crap, and porting is a horrible option...trust me. Ps3 is not an online machine. Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 17:36 Like me and #27 said, this patent cant be for PS3, cos buying a console when your old one breaks down will make all your games un-playable, so the story is bull shlt. The patent which I havent looked at will be to do with DRM protection for CD's/DVD's and the latest news linked with BMG and spyware on PC's. Read about it in the news, the new DRM protected disk's install some type of spyware, so the disk cant be used on other machines. Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 17:43 (edited) PS2 runs OK online, PS3 is the same, they use the same servers as M$ the only difference is M$ has some software you go through to play the games, thats all you dumb ass, online is controlled by M$ software, thay even spy on you with it, they know exactly which game is in your Xbox, the same for X360, only they are getting nosier next time, they are keeping stats on you and everything you do. (edited) M$ console spyware, I got enough on my PC, without them spying on my console too, and when and how often I use it. Unregistered - BS3 11.09.2005 17:44 37 - To # 30 Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 17:36 Like me and #27 said, this patent cant be for PS3, cos buying a console when your old one breaks down will make all your games un-playable Unregistered - sony fan 11.09.2005 17:45 I only said i don't believe rumors, is there a problem with that? Only morons like you believe rumors and lies. Unregistered - I hate Xbox/Playstation extremists 11.09.2005 17:46 Just because PS3's online is not unified does not mean it will be crap. Do keep in mind that PCs are not unified and they are the best at online gaming. And judging by the fact that the PS3 has 3 gigabit ethernet ports I would call it an online machine. Unregistered - sony fan 11.09.2005 17:50 SO you say PC online games suck because there is not a PC Live service for them? This Xbot Live is the only thing you have and try to say it is the heaven of online gaming. Xbot Live=a place you meet idiot Xbots Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 17:59 What about M$ bull? you still believe X360 games look next gen, ahhaha what a joke, what you doing on here anyway Xtard? this is PS3Today, not an X360 site, your posting in the wrong forum fool. Unregistered - LOL THEY JUST DONT STOP 11.09.2005 18:02 40 - #35 Unregistered - sony fan 11.09.2005 17:45 I only said i don't believe rumors, is there a problem with that? Only morons like you believe rumors and lies. Unregistered - ps sux 11.09.2005 18:05 Well you can talk about the 360 if you will, but the truth is launch titles are only the begining you'll see the difference and yeah they look better than the old xbox graphics, which looked 5x better than the ps2 graphics that you're playing now so laugh about that the next time you fire up that broke down ps2 lol. Unregistered - BS3 11.09.2005 18:08 lol yea im laughing. Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 18:08 "LOL ONLY MORONS BELEIVE RUMORS, WELL THE PS3 IS AT THIS POINT A RUMOR BUT YET YOU WAIT FAITHFULLY AND HANG ON TO KENS WORDS AFTER ALL WORDS WITH NO PROOF ARE WHAT? RUMORS. THINK ABOUT THAT. Unregistered - LOL THEY JUST " I could have said the same thing when PS2 launched but hey, I didnt and guess what? Xbox was almost 2 years away from PS2's launch. I'm not some spotty little 6yr old like you, who b*tches with other little spotty 6yr olds on Xbox live, thats why I didnt mention back in the day about, release time differences, grow up dumb ass. Unregistered - ps3 sux 11.09.2005 18:11 lol Unregistered - ps sux 11.09.2005 18:15 once again... Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 18:15 It comes out in SPRING, DUMB ASS!!! so only a few months away, now (edited) Unregistered - sony fan 11.09.2005 18:22 You don't even know where to write your post! imbecile! and PS3 specs is not rumor,it is announced officially. pffffffffff! what things i must explain to you RETARD MALFUNCTIONING BILL GATES CLONES! Unregistered - ps sux 11.09.2005 18:24 lol Unregistered - ps3 fans suck even more lol..... 11.09.2005 18:27 51 - Look at that moron #48-#49 Unregistered - sony fan 11.09.2005 18:22 You don't even know where to write your post! imbecile! and PS3 specs is not rumor,it is announced officially. pffffffffff! what things i must explain to you RETARD MALFUNCTIONING BILL GATES CLONES! Unregistered - ps sux 11.09.2005 18:30 ............ Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 18:40 X360 will just be another Dreamcast when PS3 launches, enjoy your crash and burn system. (Crash and burn lol, it actualy does crash and overheat too lol bye bye X360) Bill Gates 11.09.2005 18:41 You know perfectly well that you'll be camping out to get the PS3 so stop acting like you're such an xbox fan. Just because Sony decided not to go the same rout that Microsoft took doesn't mean that the games wont be as fun. All in all, Sony could endup having better online apabilities, you are you to know this. God you're so stupid. You seriously need a life kid. Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 18:47 Wonder what this area is for.......................Hmmm!!!! Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 19:14 I still havent figured this area out yet...................................aha! Grocery list: 4 tins cat food carten of milk 5 bottles of Soda (different flavours) Caffeine free coffee A big fart ass Doughnut for me when no one is looking (maybe 3 or 4) Double cheese burger with fries (I can handle 3 of these) OK, there's my shopping list done, now to continue, being an X360 fanboi on this forum. Unregistered - DISCIPLE 11.09.2005 19:30 AYE THIS IS JUST A BUNCH OF APE (edited). I DONT BELEIVE THAT SONY WOULD DO SOMETHING TO PISS OFF THEIR GAME CONSUMERS. BESIDES THERES SO MANY FACTORS THAT WOULDN'T MAKE ANY KIND OF DAMN SINCE TO HAVE THIS PROB. CHECK IT.. WHAT IF YA CONSOLE IS A DUD AND YOU BUY YA GAMES AND STUFF TRY TO PLAY EM AND LATER WHILE YA PLAYIN YA SYSTEM JUST CRASHES. THEN YOU CANT FIX IT SO YOU TRY AND GET A NEW ONE, AND ACCORDING TO THE RUMOR, ALL OF YOUR PREVIOUS GAMES THAT YOU'VE WORKED SO (edited) HARD TA GET IS NOW JUST PLAIN USELESS (edited). AND WHAT ABOUT GAME RENTALS HOW WOULD THEY WORK? I DONT KNOW BOUT YALL BUT I THINK SOME ONES JERKIN YA CHAIN. JUST THROWIN THIS OUT THERE Patrick 11.09.2005 19:34 Oh, its so funny how all you little xbox butt suckers are so afraid your system of choice will end up like the xbox did. LOSING. You have nothing but rumors to go by and yet you try to make everyone and yourselves believe that the 360 is the only system to buy. Your sad really, MS xbox lost huge to PS2 and you proclaim xbox rules, Rules what? The losers bracket? Rules you pathetic excuses for gamers. Until they are all out and one is clearly the winning most used system, Your know it all comments are useless dreams from sad little boys. Oh and for you little girls that say Blu-ray isnt needed. I have one thing to say, and its in your language. Your just mad cause 360 wont have it, naaa na na, na na, naaaaa. lol. Look how fast UMD has grown, all the studios support it and their section is getting bigger and bigger. Blu-ray will grow even faster. Oh and if a Blu-ray disc isnt needed for a game, Developers wont have to use it, they can use DVD since it will play those as well, but if they need it, there it is. 360 cant do that. HA ha. Will it add to the price, SURE. BUT WHO CARES. I dont, I would be mad if they were leaving it out. PS3 will be everything the 360 is and more. Hide and watch ladies. Hey didnt I read some comments about preorders from the 360 being canceled? I know I didnt even order it, and I am glad I didnt. I played Kameo which I thought looked cool but it plays kind of slow. Not impressed myself. Oh and #14, your a retard. This is a rumor and MS would start them if they think of them. Sony might own the patent but wont use it for this if anything. Alot of patents are gotten just so others cant get them. Dream on girls. Unregistered - PS3playa 11.09.2005 19:37 Good point, that means sony wont make money from selling the games to rental stores, for customers to try before they buy, the news story above is nonsense and needs deleteing,, it just doesnt make any sense at all. Unregistered - I hate Xbox/Playstation extremists 11.09.2005 19:40 They are aiming for a simultaneous internation launch so we should see the PS3 in North America in the first half of 2006 unless the xbox 360 bombs (which is unlikely) in which case Sony said they would wait untill 2007. like that commercial says "when banks (or any company for that matter, Microsoft and Sony in this case) compete, you win." Unregistered - D 11.09.2005 19:41 6 Unregistered - D 11.09.2005 19:42 6 Unregistered - Evan 11.09.2005 20:17 this is kinda skeptical.. i have no idea how they would do it Unregistered - kolopy 11.09.2005 20:30 to any b1tch who still thinks 360 is 1.5 check th1s sh1t out. http://www.xboxfront.de/screenshots-727-1657-Project_Gotham_Racing_3.html sony better start sh1tting themselves, 360 is gonna PWN. hola! badkolo 11.09.2005 20:37 So if you own 2 or 3 ps3's you think they would expect you to buy more then 1 copy of the game so you can play it on your other ps3 you might have or a friend might have. for any of you to beleave this or to continue posting on this subject as if this would be true in any way makes you all stupider then you all sound Unregistered - ps3 sux 11.09.2005 21:00 Well, Well, Well, looks like somebody has been busy since i've been away. Yeah well looks like some of you have been saying the way I was posting was dumb but at the same time posting just like me, which takes me back to what I said earlier. You are followers. And fools, when something isn't going like it should, you say it's not true, then you say if ken didn't confirm it it's lie, when all he does is lie. You call us xbots but yet you post idiot thoughts, like droids, deal with it man, sony suck, there is no excuse it is what it is. Oh and that dreamcast bit, please man, dreamcast was better than the ps2 could have ever been, and calling it a dream cast in an honor dream cast was actually the best home console, software support folded thus, it was history. However, the 360 is an entirely different story. No one is scared of ps3, MS is a powerhouse as well and has kicked krazy ken in the teeth with the first xbox, and this one is set to do even more damage, it's about to hand you guys asses to you and you know it. So go on justify every thing that goes wrong with the ps3, it just further illustrate how you guys are programmed. The ps3 = sh!t. deal with it! Unregistered - ninja0327 11.09.2005 21:02 you say "Your know it all comments are useless dreams from sad little boys." and that applies to you comment as well. becuase you are a boy with no life but to praise sony as if you are on their payroll. same person who posted stupid things you don't profit from any of this. Unregistered - ps sux 11.09.2005 21:15 60 your an idiot, you wrote all of that and aint say sh!t. You played kameo on a demo disk please the final copy will be 100% better. And dont' give me crap about blue ray it's not better it's sony's own media that they want to get off the ground so they use gennipigs(I spelled it wrong I know) like you to usher it it. Blue ray for the ps3 will virtually be for movies, and you'll obsorb the cost to no avail. Whe the 360 is everything the ps3 is but better, minus the blu ray which isnt even needed. You need to educate yourself about the product that you're boasting cause you just proved you don't know the first thing about it. You are no different than the other ps nerds, you're all talk....ummm sounds like ken doesn't it, idiot! Unregistered - kolopy 11.09.2005 21:18 betamax = flop. minidisc = flop. blu-ray = flop. dvd = still king and will be for some time. holo-cube = the next gen multimedia. you heard it here first. Unregistered - 360 11.09.2005 21:19 sony is garbage Unregistered - excuse me I think it's rationalize...... 11.09.2005 21:20 lol Unregistered - sony is for dorks 11.09.2005 21:27 Man say what you want to say, the 360 overall is a better deal, ps3 is overkill, they tried so hard to outdo MS on paper but when the final product arrives all it will have is blue ray. What competition is that for MS. The average consumer doen't give a damn about blue ray and will opt for the 360 cause it's next gen and the price would be cheaper, and the games would be cheaper than the ps3 games simply because of format. That's one reason MS has not made the harddrive permenant they want to lower the price as they see fit so they can constantly outsell the competition MS is smart as hell, they're going to soon take over sony will have japan lol. Ken Ken knows this but yet he got his faithful subjects ie your stupid @sses, then once you see like the rest of us does you'll switch lol. NOV 22, the next gen begins. Yeah you made right. nerds Unregistered - someone you don't know 11.09.2005 21:36 Even though I believe that Ken Kutaragi is ruining the great machine he created, I don't think he's stupid enough to make it so you can't play pre-owned games. There's just no point to it. Unregistered - sony makes cheap consoles that break down and sony fans are jealouse of xbox360 and whish they had one but can't so now they just keep playing with those broke @ss ps2's lol 11.09.2005 21:37 sony sucks lol maccdaddy 11.09.2005 21:39 even though some of you think that blueray will not be useful to game developers it. will. It provides much more space for the developers to add what they might want into the game. I am an all out xbox 360 fan and i do not like the ps3 at all but i still cant deny the fact that the ps3 is going to sell more systems that the xbox 360. In fact if you think that the ps3 sucks you are just plain stupid. And if the think that the xbox 360 is weak you should be checked into the mental institution. What makes you think that there will be a significant difference anyways? You should know that all of the games arent going to look like mgs4 on the ps3. Some will suck and some will be excellent. That goes the same for the xbox360 of course.The bottom line is that there is no better and they will be close to the same when they come out. You dont have to take my word for it just find out when the systems come out. Unregistered - blah 11.09.2005 21:41 You are the kind of person who gives the people who prefer the xbox, like me, a bad name. So please stop. I come here and act civilized, and think through, just look at my post #75. You should act more responsible here. Unregistered - sony sux 11.09.2005 21:45 Macdaddy, you are right except that if you think ps3 sux you're just plain stupid I mean, I'm not stupid by any means, but other than that yea I get your point. However sony still sux and thats that. Unregistered - ps sux 11.09.2005 21:48 Thanks for you comment 78 Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 22:00 deleted by mod. Unregistered - ps sux 11.09.2005 22:07 (deleted by mod) Unregistered - you suck 11.09.2005 22:13 lol Unregistered - YOUR NAME GOES HERE, WHICH IS "RETARD" 11.09.2005 22:16 YOUR COMMENT GOES HERE AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SONY YOU RETARD PAUL CERULA 11.09.2005 22:19 Tiss true Ps3 fanboys, xbox 360 is going to grab a lot of ps3's business. I'm not saying the majority of it to all you morons who would jump on me. But overall this console, Xbox 360 is going to do so.... so... much better this round Unregistered - you are sooo stupid 11.09.2005 22:22 lol im still laughin and waitin for you to say somethin worth while. Unregistered - Real Gamer 11.09.2005 22:22 Man yall suck big time, Ms 360 wont even touch the PS3 and to the idiot that said Blu-ray wont be for the games is an idiot, they will make the games on Blu-ray disc if they need and it will play them, they said it will be for Movie playback only meaning it wont be a recorder idiot. Man grow a brain. I agree with #60 and I noticed how you dismissed his comment about the xbox losing to Ps2 so badly. What do you base your comment on? You idiots seem to just skip the parts of comments you cant come back to and call names. Grow a pair and step up to the plate if you can. PS3 and Blu-ray will rule. But, Hey its ok if you dont buy a PS3, I am going to enjoy mine as soon as they hit next spring, oh and for you retards that say, Its not coming out in the Spring, remember, they have already said it wont use region coding, so I can just order it. Losers Unregistered - 11.09.2005 22:28 . Real Gamer 11.09.2005 22:28 Oh and I personally canceled my preorder of the 360 and the Manager where I buy games at said alot of others have done the same. In fact they are afriad it wont do as well as they thought. I think they are right. Others have said that the General consensus is that people are more interested and excided about the PS3. Believe what you want, PS3 will rule like PS2 is and has. Unregistered - lol you suck 11.09.2005 22:28 57 - WOW! I AM SO (edited), I DONT KNOW WHERE TO TYPE MY TEXT, I AM SO IMATURE AND LIKE XBOX AND X360 GAMES, XBOX360 RULES BUT I KNOW DEEP DOWN PS3 IS BETTER... AH TO HELL WITH IT, I SUCK AND X360 SUX TOO. THERE I HOPE YOUR ALL SATISFIED NOW? Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 18:47 Wonder what this area is for.......................Hmmm!!!! Unregistered - lol you got issues bro. 11.09.2005 22:31 lol Unregistered - stop worrying about how im typing. 11.09.2005 22:35 I don't doubt it, I just wished people cancelled in my area cause' I still want mine first shipment. Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 22:36 The end of the message was supposed to say: "TYPEING IN THE TITLE BOX MR RETARD, I'M OUTTA HERE" but wouldnt fit in the name box Have fun MR RETARD Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 22:38 By all means carry on looking like a retard, you have already earned the name for what your doing, happy posting. Unregistered - jdogg 11.09.2005 22:40 It is my consensus that sony sucks. If microsoft stopped making consoles today that'll be it for me i'd would'nt buy a ps3, 4,5 etc. You buy'em and they break, and by the looks of it they are becoming more and more expensive I don't want to keep buying those so I won't start. 360 rules, damn sony. Unregistered - Town Idiot. 11.09.2005 22:43 93 - .To MY father: MR RETARD Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 22:36 The end of the message was supposed to say: " Dear dad, I'm outta here." I cant stop you from drinking and beating on mom so Have fun MR RETARD oh I mean dad. Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 22:44 How are they becoming more and more expencive? PS1 launch price was the same as PS2 launch price, PS3 will be similar if not the same, so stop it already with the bullsh*t. Unregistered - afaf 11.09.2005 22:46 i think the xbox 360 would make a better toilet set than the ps3 Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 22:48 Decided to write in the proper box now eh MR RETARD? good for you. My father is no retard, yours must be tho for you to turn out the way you did. Unregistered - ps3 sux 11.09.2005 22:51 97, im talking gaming cosole prices, they say the ps3 will be 499 now you add tax to that is that the same aight then stfu. Unregistered - jdogg 11.09.2005 22:53 deleted and banned Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 22:54 Whoa! who said 499? more like 300 to 400, I say 350, and since when were PS1 and PS2 not consoles? I was talking about consoles too you (edited) Unregistered - sony sux 11.09.2005 22:55 you just can't get over it can you robot boy, lol retard, did you come up with that allll by your self? idiot! Unregistered - . 11.09.2005 22:58 deleted and banned Unregistered - jdogg 11.09.2005 22:59 102 yeah you may be right because after they finish stripping that garbage down to fight cost you might be paying 199 for that peice of sh*t. all you'll have is a gaming system that plays blue ray. oooooo yea that's nice. (edited and banned) Unregistered - 11.09.2005 23:02 deleted and still banned Unregistered - you dead granny sucks 11.09.2005 23:04 lol losers, (you and your butt munching dad) Unregistered - Reasonable person 11.10.2005 00:18 Listen, I doubt any of you actually cancelled preorders on the 360 or even had one. I also doubt that the 360 is going to do poorly. A lot of this wishful thinking about the xbox 360 not being an improvement and that people all over are cancelling pre orders is B.S. What are any of you trying to accomplish by this? You won't achieve nothing. I want a PS3 as much as the next guy, but don't trash other consoles, you put out a bad name for PS3 fans. Unregistered - X Xbox360 waiter 11.10.2005 00:27 I cancelled my X360 preorder, that's why I'm on here waiting for latest news on PS3, I changed my mind about 360, I don't want to be swapping disks, not only that both games I had on order had their release dates put back. I decided to wait for X360 to come down in price, when PS3 launches and get both at the same time. Unregistered - Reasonable person 11.10.2005 00:38 swapping discs is probably going to be very rare if it even happens. Not to mention that it's not even a big deal. The Blue-Ray technology, though superior, is overkill. I doubt you canceled your preorder just because two games you wanted were pushed back without even thinking of the others that are coming out for it. I think you're just a Sony fan who wants people to get a bad impression of the 360. Unregistered - READ THIS 11.10.2005 00:52 XBox 360 games single threaded, says Vole Microsoft drops bomb at FPF By Charlie Demerjian in San Jose: Wednesday 26 October 2005, 18:16 MICROSOFT'S VOLE DRAMA ARMY DROPPEDa bombshell today in a backhanded way. During a talk on multithreaded programming, Microsoft used the three core, two thread per core Xbox360 as an example. The bombshell was that the first generation of Xbox titles, all of them, are single threaded. Not good. The INQ has gotten its hands on an Xbox360, yes, there is a Wal-Mart near us, and was completely underwhelmed by the quality of the games. Graphics quality was poor, and pixels were showing up blocky, ruining the wow-factor of the new console. Every new machine has a nasty first set of games as the programmers work up to speed on the hardware. In this case, the up side is that there is about 6x the CPU power available and coming to a console near you in the second generation of games. The scary part is that everyone tells me that the PS3 is harder to program for than the Xbox360, and the tools are nowhere near the quality of Microsoft's. That means that even with an extra six months of design time, the initial PS3 games may be worse. µ Havoc 11.10.2005 01:18 Yes the pS3 is harder to program for than the Xbox 360, but it's easier this time around than the ps2. The first patch of ps3 games will of course not show off the true power of the ps3 but it will not be worst than 360's. Unregistered - Please explain 11.10.2005 01:25 how do you know it won't be worse, simply because it's playstaion? Im really want to know this, im not saying this so tempers will flair but It's like everytime someone says something about the ps3 it's like no no umm that's not possible the ps3 can handle that, and Im not really trusting that. I need some to be real about it. And to the one guy please stop it with the retard mom comments give that sh!t a rest, the one guy is like in the 8th grade can you please be bigger then him and leave it alone. Unregistered - KEEP IT REAL 11.10.2005 01:28 okay you say that the first wave of games won't show off the ps3's power so then all these people who say that about the 360 is called names but when it comes to the ps3 now it makes sense, come on what the hell kinda logic is that. Then they call the xbox 360 a 1.5 then the ps3 is a 1.5. I mean really man ya'll need to learn to keep it real. The first wave of games won't show off the 360's power. so what makes the ps3 so much better than the 360. No one has given me the ocular proof needed to back up these one sided statements. Unregistered - ps3 sux 11.10.2005 01:41 how can you even defend the ps3 after reading 116, ya'll are jokes seriously. Unregistered - 11.10.2005 03:37 Do you program for both the PS3 and the 360? Got both dev kits sitting in your room for you to compare? No? Sit down and STFU. The developers are the only ones who have the right to complain. Your job is to fork over the cash for their games. The INQ says a lot of things. "I heard from a lot of people that there are giant aliens landing this Christmas." OMG no really??! Gill 11.10.2005 04:39 I am a moderator for this site. As you will notice I have had to edit and delete numerous post. In addition several people have been banned. The foul and abusive language will not be tolerated. I do not have the time to pour over 100's of comments every day and edit every other one. I will continue to ban people who are incapable of carrying on an adult discussion. Vivicious 11.10.2005 05:34 Yea, rooting out all the foul and abusive language would take several hours a day, that's for sure. =P Unregistered - You really thing Pony Would not use this? 11.10.2005 09:22 Have you heard about the lawsuits that's out on PONY for putting files on PC's so that music CD's cannot be copied? Why is PONY keep changing their specs? Maybe they have not finalized the system yet? Unregistered - xbox toy soldier 11.10.2005 09:29 does anyone know a good forum site for the xbox360??...sumthing as good as this site??.. PAUL CERULA 11.10.2005 10:02 xbox360news.com Unregistered - dfh 11.10.2005 10:04 wats up with this flame war about sony and M$ surely most of u guys own a M$ and a sony brand at ur house Unregistered - Demonik 11.10.2005 11:00 I realized I was acting like a royal pain on the last article and I'm no better than the extremists, I'll end up buying both consoles for my own reasons after working at my part-time job and I'm 16. But seriously #116 is right none of you guys are game develoeprs how do you know the games and the consoles will be good in the first place when they haven't been out yet, I though I was worst but most of you guys need to grow up. It's like both companies mistakes are holding all of you guys back, suck it up and shut up already because the games sell the consoles, if they're weren't any games both consoles would be useless door stops that wouldn't sell. Unregistered - Demonik 11.10.2005 11:07 Until I see any flaws or proof about the consoles from either company I have nothing to say until the 360 and ps3 come out. Unregistered - JsonHenry 11.10.2005 12:37 Bwuahahahahaha!!! Yeah right, I will believe it when I see it. There is no way that Sony is so stupid as to no allow pre-played games, it would bury them this generation if they did. Havoc 11.10.2005 12:41 "how do you know it won't be worse, simply because it's playstaion?" No I don't know, like the artical said in comment 111 the ps3 intial games may be worst but I have my reasons to disagree. Firts like I said before the ps3 is harder to program for than the Xbox 360, but it's easier this time around than the ps2, the ps2 launch titles were not the best, but they were ok for that time period. So difficulty of developing on a platform doesn't have to much to do with how the graphics will look for the first patch of games for a console. It's the amount of time a deveoper has to work on a game. I'm not just saying this because I think the ps3 is marginally better or something, lets say both xbox and ps3 are exactly the same in performence I still would believe that the ps3 luanch games will not be worst than 360. Mainly because there will be more time to work on the games for the ps3, also 360 has alot of titles that look like they were ported from the xbox, this is why I think the ps3 launch titles you will see on an average more games that look better graphically because of the few games that looked ported on the 360. Of course I could be wrong it's only an opinion, but I gave enough reason and support, for you to understand why I don't think the ps3 luanch games won't be as worst as the 360's. PAUL CERULA 11.10.2005 12:53 Havoc, well of course the launch titles of xbox 360 will be worse than the launch titles of the ps3. But anyways I think that xbox 360 games by that time of ps3 launch, the games will be very close to the ps3's. This pattern will follow every year, until maybe the last few years of the console where you will notice that ps3 has that little more performance. Still to me, you guys who stuck with the ps2 do you think that you would of gotten the xbox just because it performs a little better??? Huh. PERFORMANCE IS NOT AN ISSUE, games and functions(online, multimedia) --Are the Deciding factor Unregistered - Gadget Freak 11.10.2005 13:36 Yea, I get your point. I agree that if the developers but in the time and energy to create good graphics and gameplay then the ps3 would have the edge, cause to be honest I already know that the xbox 360 was rushed and the developers are not really putting in the effort like they should so on that note I agree. And to be totally honest, I haven't all together ruled out the ps3, I may end up with one, Im really leaning towards it. However Im not waiting for it I will have my 360 in a few weeks. Anyway it's been interesting to see all of your comments, and I'll check back in a few weeks for updates. Peace. Unregistered - 360 11.10.2005 13:46 The 360 is a very nice machine, let me say that. Howver, they should have not even released it until 2006. I say that because they needed to give the software developers time to make the games and get used to the equipment. So then when the system is on shelves the games would wow the people, as it stands those demo's suck thus giving people the impression that the 360 is inferior when in reality it's not. It's very close to the ps3 specs, but poor software made it appear that way. So MS you need to put pressure on your developers to pump out the something better than the crap you have now. Unregistered - Demonik 11.10.2005 14:21 Like I said before I'm going to buy both consoles for my own reasons this time, to be honest kid your another closed minded idiot who's dead to me since we'll never communicate in real life or see each other. Unregistered - Demonik 11.10.2005 14:23 Hold it that Jason kids comment was deleted. Unregistered - Demonik 11.10.2005 14:24 Damn I know I won't hear the end of this from the fanboys. Unregistered - Warrior 11.10.2005 14:34 Lol you posted a comment to another person and it got deleted, let me savor the moment because you make yourself sound like a idiot who doesn't know anything about console gaming. Are you stupid or something who's going to believe you anyways, you go off and say that you don't want a 360 and now you want one man you've already proven that your the bigger loser here. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Unregistered - Warrior 11.10.2005 14:39 Hey guys check this guy out he say's that he doesn't want a xbox and now he wants the 360, this guy is hilarious he doesn't make any sense then he says that he was wrong what a idiot. Unregistered - Warrior 11.10.2005 14:43 Let me rephrase that he say's that he's wrong, damn what is he going to say next that Santa Claus is real and that the tooth fairy takes teeth from kids and sells them to the bank. Unregistered - Nigel Sterling 11.10.2005 15:45 I know this is out there and off topic, did any of you watch Trading Spouses, I hate watching reality tv programs, but this fat christian lady was going all out saying that the other family practiced the dark arts it was crazy. It wasn't true what she said about the other family, they were hippies she went on and on with so much gutter trash talk that it made me sick to watch that program anymore. Unregistered - NOOOOOO 11.10.2005 15:51 WHAT SANTA"S Not real omg i hate you i have nothing to live for im gonna go cry in a drak hallway , theres nothing left of my soul now... im going to end my life........oh n the PS3 SUCKS Unregistered - BOBBY FISCHER 11.10.2005 15:54 IT'S NOT JUST A RUMOR |