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10 Oct 2005 16:22 | DragonFly | Playstation 3 PS3Today.com | Link to this article
At the recent CEATEC event in Japan, Sony Corporations Chairman and CEO, Sir Howard Stringer, talked about Sony’s role in the Consumer Electronics world, and how PSP, PS3 and the CELL will bring us the next generation of digital entertainment.
"The Cell microprocessor which Sony developed with IBM and Toshiba clearly sets the PS3 apart. It is 35 times faster than the processor in the PS2. 10 times the power of a standard PC and twice the processing power of Microsoft's new Xbox360. This technology allows for super computer like performance, moving quality images and the degree of realism that is simply amazing in a home gaming device. It's been said in the press that no other chip in the world can touch it. We are confident that this is true." PS3Portal has put together a summary of some of the main points of Sir Howard Stringer's keynote speech. So make sure read the full story at their site. Add Comment Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 16:31 whatever Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 16:38 PiS3 sux, 360 rox Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 16:40 What the hell is "high drama" Unregistered - Jin Kazama 10.10.2005 16:44 Oh my god, you xbox 360 fans are like little freakin leeches. If you are such a fan of the 360, why the hell are you always on the PS3 site looking for news every other second. YOu guys were the first to reply before any of us hardcore gamers, got a chance to reply. Its pathetic how you are constantly on here. Seems to me, you guys are crapping your pants because deep down inside, you are scared as hell that you are about to make a very bad choice picking the 360 over the PS3. So you wanna convince as many people as you can, so they will all be in the same sinking boat as you. Get a life 360 people. If I were sony, i wouldnt want people like you to support me. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 16:50 how can you call 360 a next Gen console. Just cuz the graphics are suped up, which really are not all that great to begin with. Xbox live, ok, they had that before, maybe a new version now, but not next gen. Hmm...still dvd, not a revolutionary processor, multicore has been done before, same controller, although wireless, so is WAVEBIRD. You guys are Idiots. Ps3 is truly next gen. CELL, Blu-Ray, the Graphics. that just right there speaks for it self, it ACTUALLY has next-gen technology. Xbox360 doesnt. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 16:51 With the exception of #2 how do you know the other two are fanboys. This is just meaningless crap that sony is spouting off about themselves and how they think they are gods. I would like to know what "HIGH DRAMA" is too. Can someone from sony please answer me. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 16:54 Dude, its high drama, they're excited about the the technology. I'm sure Bill gates uses a lot of extra words to describe his new windows comming out. Damn, you can pick apart anything if you wanna break it down to that level. Its not that serious Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 16:56 He probably meant, with High Definition, you get High Drama. There was a lot of Drama with Gladiotor on DVD, with High Definition, it could make the experience much better, there for a higher feeling of drama. Chill, its not like he said something SOOOO out of the norm. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 16:58 hey, for once, lets have a good clean discussion here. Xbox360 people, say your oppinion, make it known how you feel, and we can give ours. This is not a matter of life or death. We can all respect each other's opinion. After all, there are much more important things to fight over about, this is just purely a debate about an entertainment Systems. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 17:02 "Playstation is one of the rare devices to have obtained the status of a popular item. And if you wonder why we speak of Playstation Nation, listen to this, the no. of Playstations in the world now equals the combined populations of Japan, South Korea and Australia. That would be about two hundred million machines. And no matter where in the world we are, they are all speaking the same language." Thats from the ps3portal site. I am sure that all of nintendos systems have more than that. Unregistered - akumas rebirth 10.10.2005 17:11 I think ps3 is going to be a good console but I just dont think that it is going to live up to all the hype,I think the x360 is going to do really good this time arround,because they have the best dev on their sides now that should tell some of you hard core sony fanboys something. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 17:14 in responding to #5 statement everything that has been seen from ps3 is cg and xbox has from the beginning shown all gameplay. another thing to say that the 360 isnt as powerful, footage of fight night 3 at e3 was done on the 360 and gears of war was done with just one core so imagine what will be out a year or two. Cell isnt that much more powerful and besides thats not what counts in games its the memory and the gpu Unregistered - akumas rebirth 10.10.2005 17:28 I think it has alot to do with sony talking sh*t about how their console is so nextgen thats why us xbox fan keep coming on here to knock some sence into your heads PAUL CERULA 10.10.2005 17:37 PS3 BLU RAY ISN'T PRACTICAL FOR ANY MEDIA OTHER THAN VIDEO GAMES BECAUSE HD DVD IS THE LARGEST IT WILL EVER BE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS FOR OTHER MEDIA. LOOK AT THE DVD AND HOW LONG IT TOOK TO TAKE OVER VHS. HD DVD WILL TAKE AROUND 5-10 MORE YEARS TO DOMINATE. BLU RAY WILL TAKE EVEN MORE TIME TO BE WORTH IT. SO IT COMES DOWN TO HAVING 2 DVD'S (HD OR NOT) OR BLU RAY. BLU RAY REALLY ISN'T THAT GREAT WHEN 2 DOUBLE SIDED DVD'S THAT YOU SWITCH IS FAR CHEAPER AND EASIER TO USE THAN BLU RAY. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 17:55 In Ancient Greek language , DRAMA was every theatrical work of great writers like Aristophanes (the Father of Comedy)and Aeschylus (a great writer of Tragedy). I think that actually there is a metaphor here : All the big words of SONY looks like comedy but when alls said and done the future of sony looks like Tragedy! Unregistered - Coward 10.10.2005 17:56 "super computer like performance, moving quality images and the degree of realism that is simply amazing in a home gaming device" now where have i heard that before? skooby 10.10.2005 17:57 Show me the money! They said similar things about the PS2. I will most likely purchase a PS3. But come on... Be realistic... Unregistered - Coward 10.10.2005 18:12 aren't you the mod here? Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 18:16 you 360 people are scared as hell. if you were confident,you wouldn't spend your time here day and night posting nonsense about PS3.look at that miserable idiot #2 for instance.get a life you imbeciles! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 18:25 EAT THIS XBOT MOTHERF**KERS AND GET LOST!!! PS3 WILL RULE BILL'S ASS!!!!!!!!! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 18:29 so i can just say that i f**ked your mom and that means im your dad, is that how it works, hey got another one, i am the king of the world bow down before me, it's all PR and hype c'mon you know sony by now. like my old pops used to say, the proof of the pudding is in the tasting. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 18:32 yea, the guy that posted a comment about FIght Night Round 3 being on the 360....uhh it was on the ps3 at E3, nott he 360. Now, here is the thing, ps3 showed some real time graphics, and they showed some pre-rendered graphics. They said, the games will look like that, you know what, maybe they will, maybe they wont, but will be close enough. Now, 360, showed actual gameplay, but this is where we differ people. The gameply graphics on the 360 do not meet my expectations of a truly next gen console. So, what I am going to to is, wait for PS3 and see if they can actually deliver on their promise of the graphic and gameplay experience, instead of hurryng up and buying an xbox360. If I see that the PS3 couldnt live up to the expectaions, then who knows, maybe I'll get an xbox 360. Its not that big of a deal. You guys are acting like your mom and dad made the 360. Get over it. Unregistered - Jin Kazama 10.10.2005 18:46 By the way, I respect all the xbox fans out there on their views, all the ones that are stating them in a diplomatic fashion. We all can have different views. Lets face it, both systems are probably gonna kick some ass. Some of us think the ps3 will be better, and some think the 360 will be better. No harm in that. Also, none of actually know until both systems are out and compared. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 18:49 I agree people. Let the companies fight it out, we are all gamers people. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 18:54 can a sony fan tell me why the PS3 is their choice over 360, let's assume for arguments sake that, gfx and online play will be great on both machines, what else has it got to offer me? Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:00 ohhhhhh, your sister was here last night,ohhh what a p*ssy she has! you'll have a nephew in 9 months guaranteed!!!!!!!! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:00 SPARTAN OF 777, You have no idea what your talking about, NONE. Blu-ray and Hd-dvd are both High def dvd's, They are both competing to be the next format and Blu-ray is winning the war with leaps and bounds. Blu-ray is superior in every way to hd-dvd. Blu-ray can hold much more data, its using the Durabis coating from TDK which gives much more protection from scratches and dust (hd-dvd isnt) The copyright protection against piracy is better with Blu-ray which is important to studios and to us that actually buy movies and music with out ripping them or purchasing pirated copies. JVC created a hybrid disc that plays both dvd and Blu-ray content on the same side to ease the transition from standard dvd to Blu-ray. Every one of the Computer makers, including Dell and HP (the 2 largest are backing blu-ray, everyone of the Movies studios are backing Blu-ray except Universal, Warner and New Line. Paramount just announced they are now backing Blu-ray and Warner brothers and New Line are expected to release a statment anytime stating they are switching as well then Universal is said to follow. That will give Blu-ray 100% studio support, All the electronic companies are supporting Blu-ray except Toshiba, and NEC. Its being said all over the net that hd-dvd has pretty much lost already and may never even make it out. Even the Music industry is embracing Blu-ray, Universal Music (one of the largest music companies) is backing them and so is Sony music, Epic records, Columbia records, and BMG who just merged with Sony in 2004. So there you go. Blu-ray is in place to be the next standard for Movies, Games, Computers, Music and more. Oh and Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd (owners of the Panasonic brand) have established a new technology which will lower the production costs of next generation Blu-Ray discs to almost the same level as current DVD production costs. Any questions go to Blu-ray.com Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:05 you need a d*ck to impregnate, what did you use the one on your head. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:07 john carmike (the creater of doom) even said it himself that he wishes ps3 used the same cpu architecture as xbox 360 because it's superior. check Game Informer magazine's latest issue. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward-True! 10.10.2005 19:07 Well... look at it this way... Blue-tooth(which is the best...)7 controllers vs. 4 on xbox... Blu-Ray(25 gig, 60gig dual-layer) vs. Dual-Layer Dvd's 8-10 gig (maybe HD-DVD's which is 15gig 30 gig dual-layer)... Nvidia Vs. ATi Nvidia for the past few years Nvidia has been ahead with higher quality... IBM processers (all sides of the console wars) however IBM states that Cell is a higher end processer ...go to there website...they've made for all three of the processers for each of the next gen systems... and well game titles Playstation Versus Xbox, Halo is for Xbox and well.. not much else that can live up the massive amount of Playstations Greatest hits... However... Sony has broken promises... and well... i seriously doubt that Blu-Ray IBM and Nvidia would back up something they can't (go to www.teamxbox.com) "more powerful then GeForce 7800 which.. is an outstanding piece of hardware... THIS WILL ALL BE SOLVED WITH FINAL PRODUCTS... (my vote is with Ps3... high hopes..) Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:09 Oh and your worng about the transition dvd to Blu-ray as well. See from VHS to DVD it was going from tape to something completely different. Dvd plays didnt play VHS and VHS wouldnt Play dvd. This is going from DVD to Blu-ray which is just a High def DVD. Now, since JVC created a hybird, that means that the can make just hybrids to start out which will play in a current dvd player with the red laser but still play in the Blu-ray player using the Blue laser and so people wont have to buy one or the other. And if people dont want to have to buy movies over again in Blu-ray, they wont have to since the Blu-ray players will play current dvds. So as you can see the transition should be very simple to the point that many may not even notice much of a switch. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:10 Well, for me personally, What sony is saying about the console seems to be the deciding factor. Also, The highly touted Cell, the Blu-Ray. Also, I was not impressed by the quality of the games on the 360, i will just wait a few months to see if the Ps3 has something better to offer. From the looks of it does. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:12 Why do you think that our choice must be xbox??!! we've lived and grown with PS1 and PS2.the Playstation brand in the gaming world is like Mercedes in the automobile world! this is not the OS market for god sake which all HAVE TO have windows in order to play games! in here the king is Sony. and i think you know that microsoft and it's chairman aren't so popular in the world! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:12 TDK has actually created a Blu-ray disc that is 100Gb and Sony is lab testing a 200Gb Blu-ray disc. Blu-ray is only the Beginning! old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 19:12 Here's my 2 cents Bizz-atch's (laughing). Sony knows how to hype things up, it's good for their company. Microfuks only wish they could build up hype as good as Sony does. Everyone knows that, so quit making that your #1 point every time you FagBox036 fagboys mention Sony. It's nothing new. What you fail to realize is that when Sony builds up hype, it's because they have to. Every company out there does it. Microfags does the same thing to one extent or another. So what, if they didn't deliver with everything they said about the PS2, 9 1/2 out of 10 (the 1/2 being a midget) still played the hell out of there PS2 with their LARGE selection of games. Nintendo promised online play and never came through. Who gives a sh!t? I own a GC and still love Nintendo for the innovations they have brought to the industry. I respect Sony for giving any developers a chance to make games for their console, something that Nintendo was not too fond of doing in fear that it could hurt their image (I'm sure they won’t be thinking like that this time around). Microfuks has brought absolutely nothing new to the industry (they gave you better service for online gaming. Big F@$king whoop!) Still Nintendo and Sega were the originals. Oh and lets not for get First Person Shooters (Which is all they ever make or at least seem to focus on) Pathetic. All the X-twat fanboys have been bread to hate everything else and for this I'm not sure whether I would want to play online with a bunch of twat face ZOMBIES playing a FPS game like HALO 2. In the end though I'm glad all three systems can coexist. Competition drives the future, and that's exsacly where Sony was thinking when they created the PS3 (the future of gaming). Think of it this way. Sports. How F#*king boring would it be if there was only one sport in this F'ed up world. Instead you have a sh!t load of different types. So in conclusion pick the sports (consoles) you like, pick your favorite teams (games) and enjoy the hell out of them. In my case I'll get all three in this order PS3,Nintendo,or which ever comes first, and I still have not determined on whether or not I want to support the Microfuks and their X-twat036 this coming generation. Unregistered - Haha 10.10.2005 19:15 Cell - x2 Power5 processers, 8 (SPE's) 1 used for reduncany... each SPE of which act as there own processer drawing from its own local memory ---- PPE's Triple- x3 Power5 processers (this has been made before....) IBM made each processer, they have said that CBEA is the "superior"... check it out for yourself.. Unregistered - Sam 10.10.2005 19:16 yeah the only reason Microsoft is where it is today is because so far there can be only one OS due to multiple OS would make it very difficult. Give them some competition to that and see how big they become. They probably wouldnt last seeing as how good windows rarely works well. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:16 the creator of DOA4 ichi"something" said that xbox 360 running on three cores will be difficult to programme and develop for ASK YOURSELVES WHY WERE THE GAMES RUNNING ON 1 CORE also square-enix said that porting FFXI on pc to XBOX 360 was extremly difficult and frustrating because pc games run on intel processors while xbox has a IBM processor SO XBOX FANS DONT THINK XBOX 360 HAS IT ALL EASY Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:16 LOL...........come on man let's finish this and be friends! but tell me why you come here and bash our beloved PS3? you know how great it is,don't you? Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:18 it's not about power it's about the games!!!!!!!....and clearly Microsoft has both. Sony announced 120 games in development while Microsoft announced 200, pick your poison. I know I'll be in line for both because both systems established franchises that I love. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:19 and since when did SONY have a large game catalogue of GOOD titles, i prefer quality not quantity. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:24 Every console that came out first has the market advantage... and has ALWAYS lacked the power concept... i.e. dreamcast... ps1 vs 64... ps2 vs xbox.... this will be another act... power of the console only shifts afew people... Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:25 xbox360 fans and Ps3 fancs can co exsist. I hope the 360 will be great, and i hope it gives PS3 some great competition. That we, we as gamers, 360 and PS3 players will win. We cant be fighting onwhich is better, we are all gamers. Lets all ahve a group hug. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:29 im not bashin the PS3 i just want to know why i should consider buying one, i was once a sony fanboy myself, but after the PS2 lies and poor games GT3/4 and MGS2/3 i dont mention Killzone because it is outright sh1t thats all they have as exclusives dont they, i got pissed off and moved to MS and im glad i did more variety of games Links 2004 best golf game ever, TOPSPIN best tennis game ever, Halo 1/2 best console FPS' ever,PGR2 FORZA best console driving games ever, NINJA GAIDEN not my cup of tea but i still played it for hours also my own tunes in games, and the fact that i had online play and didnt have to fork out for hundreds of memory cards, i really dont see why sony is still up there, apart from the fact that people see the name and think it's cool to own a sony, well it's not, i had many sony items around the house and iv'e replaced them all with better quality items, samsung/panasonic/pioneer are much better appliances than sony all's your paying for with them is the name. old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 19:52 God of War, FFX, DMC Series, ICO, GTA Series, you dip sh!t. Quit acting like you all of the sudden hate Sony by jumping on the X-Twat waggon. You know you like Sony better than Microfuks. I own an X-twat so what. I'll be the first to admit that for a while there where no good games out on the PS2 so I played my X-twat. Got so tired of the same old sh!t online, that now I don't play it any more. I might get the X-Twat036 after the PS3 and Nintendo consoles. Mainly because there are no games that I am particualy interested in. Besides PS2 has some good games coming out in a few weeks. Shadow of the Colosus, FFXII, Rouge Galaxy, GUN, and the all mighty "Okami". Yeah I think these tittles can keep me busy for a long time to come until I wait for the PS3 and Rev. Peace out X-TWATS. Tha Hell with Peace talks, lets start a war again (more intersting, you know we all love it). RAGE ON HATERS!!!!!!!!LOL Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:53 I wonder if this will be another thread to reach 600 and odd posts before a new news article pops up, I hope not. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:55 I wonder if this will be another thread to reach 600 and odd posts before a new news article pops up, I hope not. Unregistered - Coward 10.10.2005 19:56 did you use the "urban" dictionary in your post, or are you just a remedial, either way i'll stick to MS thanks. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:57 my bad. old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 19:57 These X-TWAT fanboys know that the current X-TWAT is the better system which i'm man enough to admit and own. But get real guys....sorry I mean ladies, It's not going to be that same way this time around and it's killing you all inside to know this. That Bill Gays actually let you down. BOOO FUKING HOOO!!!!!!! Quit B!tching you haters. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 19:58 and by the way GTA is better on XBOX. diablo_sv21 10.10.2005 19:59 "im not bashin the PS3 i just want to know why i should consider buying one..." *slaps forehead* old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 20:00 Yeah that's right go back and get your #'s right. Maybe Billy Gays can lend you some of his fingers to use so you can count better. You HOMO! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 20:01 yeah... as in i dont know the reasons to part with my hard earned cash. moron. old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 20:03 Get you're ears out of your ass. No sh!t it's a better looking game. It's a more powerful console you moron. But by the time it came to the T-TWAT, everyone had already played the sh!t out of it. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 20:04 it's good we can have a civilized conversation now. let's not ruin this article like the previous one. i agree with you that ps2 had many crappy games but so did the xbox.why do you say MGS3 was bad? come on,it was awesome (gfx,story,..). take a look at some recently released ps2 games like god of war,tekken 5.they are awesome too. and many top xbox games are watered down pc ports like riddick,half life 2,farcry,doom3...ahh,and about halo,i played halo 1 on pc and was not impressed at all.it's aliens were like children's dolls!it was childish. about halo2,i didn't play it but heard a lot of critisism about it,same about fable.overall i agree that sony lied about ps2,but if you look at it,you see a very good machine from 5 years ago. it came in 2000 don't forget. let's see what sony does this time. if they lie again i will join the MS camp! but i have strong feeling that PS3 will be something godlike and sony will deliver this time.don't forget that they face a stiff competition from MS this time and they can't under deliver. old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 20:05 give it to them #54. They're all Morons. I say we RAGE a war of insults and flush all the X-TWAT fanboys out off this site. LOL RAGE ON FUKERS!!!!!!!! old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 20:07 RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 20:07 & MORE RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 20:17 i agree both machines have good games and poor games, splinter cell destroys MGS, Forza eats GT4, Ninja Gaiden beats DMC, FFX who cares about that stinking pile, and play Halo on the xbox, i've played it on the pc and it sucked, and the PC ports atleast MS gets them sony doesnt, but apart from that all other games are multi format. and what's with the KILLZONE footage eh? you know it's not even gonna be close to that, so the only real footage is MGS4 which is nice but it's not amazing, GOW, Mass effect, PGR3, Too Human, Kameo(yeah i know it's badly g@y) and i know it's far from finished but it wont change that much, so all this talk of the CELL being the best thing since sliced bread just doesnt wash with me, apart from that though sony has a terrible history of under acheiving with final products. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 20:17 let's have a civilized talk with xbox fans. please calm down! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 20:19 maybe you should get your #s right you chump, that was me the "xbot" lol. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 20:23 MAN I'M SICK OF THIS PS3 VS. XBOX 360 CRAP. FORGET GETTING THE PS3 IN LATE SPRING, I'D RATHER HAVE SOMETHING NOW AND VERY CLOSE TO THE SAME PERFORMANCE 6 MONTHS EARLY. YOU GUYS SHOULD DO THE SAME BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORTH IT. 6 MONTHS IS PLENTY OF TIME TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE PS3. REALIZE LIKE I DID THAT THE PS3 AND XBOX 360 ARE SO INCREDIBLY CLOSE IN PERFORMANCE. BLU-RAY IS NOT THAT GREAT AND CELL IS JUST A NEW PROCESSOR MODEL. SIMILAR OVERALL OUTPUT SO FORGET WAITING 6 MONTHS. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 20:25 my point exactly. old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 20:27 I was actually being stupid pretending to be another xbot like #49 who can't get their #'s straight on purpose you chump. It was above your head obviously. Anyways RAGE ON GAMERS!!!!!!!Microfuks & Sony love this sh!t. It's what drives their sales. FUKING X-TWATS!!!!!!!! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 20:30 how silly of me to think that you could mess up. oh well this just proves that you are in denial, it takes a big man to admit when he is wrong, you just made yourself look tiny. old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 20:31 #63 Shut up and RAGE ON LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let’s all have some fun you IDIOTS. Do any of you realize the times that we're living in during this generation of gaming. This feud will be remembered through out the future of gaming history. Enjoy it while it lasts. SO RAGE ON FUKERS. X-TWATS Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 20:32 MGS4 wasn't amazing?!??! wow,you're quite a fanboy! it was equal to killzone if not better and we know it was real. it was the best graphics ever created on a damn gaming system! try to be fair a little please! none of what we have seen on 360 so far is even near the MGS4! i want that type of game and i know PS3 will deliver it.killzone will be a reality! old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 20:34 I've been nothing but honest all along. READ all of my posts and you will see the things that I have admitted to. Don't make me take a dump on your X-TWAT loving head. old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 20:36 MGS4 did look amazing, but with all to respect to the X-TWATS, Gears of War looks just as amazing. RAGE ON!!!!! old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 20:37 NOT!!!! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 20:41 maybe you need some thicker glasses because i have both videos on my PC and MGS4 doesnt even come close to the Killzone footage, take another look, if Killzone was real i would be getting a PS3 no doubt, now take alook at MGS4 his skin and hair are badly textured, his eyes are not wet like real eyes, and it isnt even in-game playable it it just a cut scene, so there is no AI or phsyics that bog down system performance, so seriously if you believe MGS4 is better than Killzone i am wasting my time talking to you. old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 20:44 I know one thing that is WET, and that's your mouth from having it all over Billy's hairy BALL!!!!!!!RAGE ON LOL old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 20:45 Billy had the other removed after finding out what Sony was coming out with (PS3) Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 20:46 real smooth, did they teach you that in church, reach that high note choir boy. old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 20:48 You're the last X-TWAT left. We will flush you out!!!!! LOL RAGE ON!!!!!!!! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 20:52 i've had turds with more braincells than you, so it will be me who does the flushing. old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 20:57 See there you go X-TWAT. I'm a big boy I can take it and not cry. LOL that was a funny comeback. LOL seriously it was funny. I can take it. This is all in good fun people. Lets all have fun so when we're 103 yrs old we can tell these time to our adopted grandkid robots when they're feuding about the X-TWAT12 and the PS13. old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 20:59 Still laughing #77. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 21:04 let's say killzone is better but MGS4 is an early realtime demo! it's not the final version game and still is the most amazing game we've seen on a gaming system so far.show me one xbox360 game with graphics like MGS4. and gears of war isn't like that,you know it! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 21:04 what happened to the sensible PS fan, is it just you left? oh nearly forgot.....360 rox PS3 sux, been dyin to get that out. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 21:10 remember every other sony realtime demo from early on and compare them to the finished product, you will see why i moved me and my money to MS, and if you want a comparison of 360 gmes that look like MGS4 go here http://www.xboxyde.com/index_en.html and check some out, the basketball one is fooking awesome, mass effect, PGR3, too human, and you know when splinter cell 4 comes along it will blow MGS away, like it always does. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 21:13 Oblivion looks purdy sweet aswell. Unregistered - poopmouth 10.10.2005 21:15 splinter cell better than MGS?...lol, thats a good one.....whew, i havent laughed that hard in a long time....thanks man old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 21:15 I'm back YOU X-TWAT. Not to get off the topic here but are any of you people excited for the games that are coming out soon for the PSP. The fuking thing needs some games. I think they're finally coming.fuking Sony. I hate how they make you wait FOR THE BEST PRODUCTS ON THE MARKET NO MATTER WHAT ALL OTHER HATERS SAY!!! see we both had to get things off our chests. In your case off your T!TS Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 21:22 how is the PSP, i've heard there's a design fault with it, the square button is too close to the screen and causes occasional problems, pffft f**king sony and their half assed equipment. :] Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 21:28 360 IS DA B3EST C0NS0L3 3V3!!1111!111!11!!11!1!!1 old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 21:29 That's too bad that you can't afford one. I really feel sorry for you. I do really. Anyways I read that there was a 4 gig hard drive coming out for it early next year, possibly late this year. Again I really feel for you man. old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 21:34 You HOMOS. When you were 13 everything was sony this sony that. Now that you're two years older you think you know everything about technology. Some people just love to jump on the waggon and hate what they know is the best for no reason other than they think it's cool to be that way. Later X-TWATS Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 21:37 try 25, and i dont see the point in handheld gaming, you play games in your house on your TV not when your out and about. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.10.2005 21:39 you must really like homos to go on about them your talking a lot of sh*t Stop embarrassing ps3 fans, the ps3 and yourself stop adding comments that xbox360 fans can be proud your comments are stupid, dumb and makes you sound like stupid d*ckhead old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 21:40 I was being sarcastic about the age thing you idiot X-TWAT. Don't sit there and tell me that you don't want a PSP you liar. Don't sit there looking at porn telling me that you never played Tetris on the Gameboy and didn't enjoy it. Dumb ASS X-TWAT old school with a new twist 10.10.2005 21:55 I'm just tired of these haters that hate for no reason. I like games not consoles. The only reason I raged on about the xbox you idiots is because for days now I had been coming to this site to read the most resent news on the PS3 and maybe read a few comment. But turns out that reading all the bullsh!t bickering over both consoles was so ridiculous. So I took it upon myself tonight to registered and have been talking sh!t for the past hour and a half to prove my point to you FUKCS! Quit b!tching and try and understand what is happening in the industry. It's more important than any of your BULLSH!T bickering. Now I hope you can all start having conversations. Understand that without companies like Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo, this world would not be the way it is today. Think about it. It's a fact. Competition people, it drives the future. P.S. Who gives a crap if I'm giving the PS3 and PS3 fanboys a bad image. Sony doesn't pay me, I pay them so they, and you better deal with it you FLAMER. PAUL CERULA 10.10.2005 22:33 Number 80 don't even compare MGS4 with launch 360 titles. Weren't we already over this. MGS4 is one or two years later and in no way can be compared with Xbox 360 launch titles. I want to see MGS4 compared with another FPS on the 360 AT THAT TIME. Don't be a idiot and think that MGS4 is what the PS3 would of had at this time. Unregistered - Jin 10.11.2005 00:28 Hey have you guys heard of this new system called Turbo Graphx 16. Its supposed to be soo cool. I think its gonna be better than sega Genesis and the SNES. Also, there is another console on the way called Neo Geo. Its supposed to be totally Awesome. No more playing in the 8 bit, now its all the 16 BITS. Man, the graphics on these things are totally awesome. Ok, gotta get back to listening to my Pantera. Party on dudes. Viva La Oliver North!! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 00:35 I have had a psp. biggest waste of money. Yay, I get to play old ps1 and ps2 ports on the go. See I have car that I drive places. Not a mommy to drive me around while I play it. I go out of the house to do stuff besides gaming. Get a life old school. Did you ever even graduate or did you get kicked out for sucking the principles d1ck. Go get a life and some friends. And get laid while your at it by someone other than your dad. You make all the people on this site that like ps3 look like stupid middle school brats. Stay with $ony so I don't have to listen to your bullsh1t on live. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 01:19 Thats where all this trash talking comes from, XBOX LIVE look how great M$ are learning children at an early age to swear and bicker and say rude words. They should be sued. I cant sue them cos I didnt buy Xbox, there was only 1 game I wanted (Halo) which I later played anyway on PC. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 01:28 Oh BTW I forgot to mention Halo was rubbish, I bought a cardboard box and put my PS2 games on it, so in theory I had both PS2 and a box which I put a big X on to make it more authentic, it was just as usefull as the real thing, thats the amazing thing about it. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 06:42 To be honest,i must say i'm interested in 3 xbox360 games so far: too human,mass effect,pgr3. they are freakin awesome (oblivion isn't exclusive). oh,and about GOW; why it's graphics is a bit cartoon like?? (if you look at faces and gunfires). about the 360 itself, i think it was a great mistake to drop the internal and standard HDD. it was something xbox had and others lacked. it was the decisive factor in buying an xbox wasn't it? afterall, i think we sony fans must thank microsoft for bringing the 360. you know why? because sony can't lie and under deliver anymore.if they do,ps3 will be the last sony console. they did it last time because there wasn't a real competitor for ps2 (xbox didn't sell good and hadn't too much developers). now,PS3 MUST DELIVER! AND IT SHALL DELIVER! thanks to pressure from microsoft. Unregistered - - 10.11.2005 07:40 i knoe halo was the only i wanted so i bougth the xbox but is was a waste of money it was soooooooooooooooooo boring Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 07:54 THE XBOT 1.5 IS SUCK SONY 4 LIFE. ANYBODY BUYING THAT SMALL UPGRADE SYSTEM IS A ?AY,STUPID, ?USSYCOW,MOMMY ?UCK SON,PIG NECK. FAKE GHOSTBUSTER, AS DEAD AS NOAH HA HA HA AND THE REST OF THE ARK, DIRTY ASS HOLE , ?UCKING LIL BRO IN THE ASS ,GIANT PEACH FACE .MOMMMY LIL SPOILED ?ITCH ,HOMO TENDER LOVER ,TOUCHING LIL BOYS, ANIMAL LOVER;STICKING POLES IN UR MOMMY BUTT, GLAD UR MOM DIED PLAYING XBOT.AND ONE LAST THING ALL THOSES PEOPLE THAT DIED AT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER SHOULD COME BACK AND REPLACE THEM WITH THESE FAKE ASS , NOT TRYING TO HEAR THeTRUTH ASS XBOTSSSSSSSSSS HA HA HA 1.5 Unregistered - PS3Player 10.11.2005 08:18 hi everybody i am bill gates and i wanna confess that 360 is gonna be a total crap and waste of money so dont buy it...And im going to own a PS3 and revo.. so listen to me Unregistered - Bill Gates lll 10.11.2005 09:11 No I am Bill Gates, and it's about time things were done with this sorry excuse for a forum. If this forum wishes to carry on being online, I surgest you stop all these PS3 fanboys argueing and throwing abuse, at my Xbox 360 comunity. We at Microsoft, dont tolerate such abuse or tell lies like Sony, we would never tell a lie, you hear me? NEVER!... Well maybe once or twice... OK you got me, yes the PS3 is more powerfull, but I can tell you something that is true, wanna know what it is? OK I'll tell you, J.Allard realy is g*y, he tried to grope me the other day, grabed my balls and everything, ooohhh and guess what? I realy enjoyed it, ahem, well lets just leave it at that. Please buy X360 PLEASE! I lost so much money on the first one, I cant afford to give, I mean lose more money on my evil deed to take over Sony and burry that f*cking company, sorry... Jeez do THOSE B*STARDS PISS ME OFF!!! they have everything, all the best game developers... I cant go on, forget what I said about the forum, maybe not so many people will see this. Anyway I'm off to join J.Allard in the bath, Dont forget Xbox supporters I dont tell lies realy (ha ha ha) you can trust me, the X360 realy is the best console... bye (Dumb Ass's) PAUL CERULA 10.11.2005 09:24 YOU MORONS THE XBOX 360 AND PS3 ARE GOING TO BE VERY CLOSE IN PERFORMANCE. PS3 WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE WITH BLU RAY, WHICH REALLY DOESN'T MATTER. XBOX 360 COMES OUT 6 MONTHS EARLIER. DON'T BE DOUCHE BAGS AND FORGET THAT Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 09:40 PiS3 sux, 360 rox! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 09:49 WoW! you still believe that after what Bill gates just said, OK for your benefit X360 Rock's (too hard and ends up tumbleing down a steap cliff, never to be seen again) Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 09:50 Ever wondered why this forum seems to be nothing but one non stop flame war between the most ill informed people on the internet? You keep telling the Xbox 360 flamers to go away but it's like minded half wits like yourselves who are causing them to be here in the first place. If you go to the affiliate site for the Xbox 360 there is next to no flaming as single format zealots from both camps who try to start one just get ignored. Instead they come here to be around people of the same intellectual level who want nothing more than to copy and past a lot of tech specs or investor relations material they don't understand anyway in an effort to make themselves feel superior to each other. Anyway heres one to keep you idiots bickering for a while longer. You say that the Xbox 360 is nothing but an Xbox 1.5. While also agreeing that the original Xbox was superior to the PS2. Lets say that for arguments sake the original Xbox is 1/3 more powerful than the PS2. Now 1/1/3 times 1.5 is roughly equal to 2 which would make the Xbox 360 equal in power to the PS3. Discuss. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 09:58 My god, cant you take a joke, jeez, who gives a F*ck about the consoles, just enjoy the games thats on the console you want, peace! Unregistered - TK 10.11.2005 10:06 MS just copies whatever the other companies do. From a technical standpoint, the PS3 interests me more. Theone odd curveball that came from nowhere was the Revolution controller. That is the one thing that may prove to be the real next generation innovation. The PS3 can display to two screens - thumbs up The eyetoy was quite a good inovation the current generation.. and they will obiously improve on it. All that I see from MS is - Hell - Sony has an eyetoy - so lets copy it quickly and claim that it is innovation. Sony has a real next gen CPU so lets get at least a multi processor so that we can pretend to do the same. All copy - no innovation. And then the revolution controller was announced - the one MS guy applauds - and the next week the VP tries to downplay it and pretend that they tried it as well. Who wants to bet that MS is furiously trying to copy the Nintendo controller and the eyetoy for the 360? Obviously - because they cannot come up with a fresh idea themselves. Thats why I will get either PS3 or Revolution. They innovated - come up with something new. Ms will just copy and try and claim innovation for a "me too" product. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 10:15 PiS3 sux, 360 rox! Maleficus the Great 10.11.2005 10:33 Lets get one thing straight: no one knows, except for Sony, how much more advanced the technology of the PS3 will be over the any other console, so please shut up, fannie-boys. Why can't you just buy both the 360 and PS3 and accept that both are probably going to be excellent consoles. By the way, I have played both Splinter Cell and MGS games and MGS is by far superior. S.C. has practically no story, whereas MGS has one of the most compelling and brilliant stories of any game ever. The controls of MGS are top of the line, whereas SC has clumsy, hard controls. And does SC have characters with background stories like MGS? Of course not. You retarded fanboys give MS games a bad name and force sane, balanced players to diss games that are pretty good by comparing them to superior games. So shut up, especially you, sparty. Maleficus the Great 10.11.2005 10:39 I apologize if I offended any sane, non-biased gamers when I made my last comment. In no way am I saying Splinter Cell is a bad game, I was just saying that it can't compare with MGS. If you are a fan of Splinter Cell who has never played a MGS game, then I suggest playing one. You are missing out on a lot. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 10:39 The story for MGS2 was horrible. It just got crappier and crappier as the game went on. Kogima is just full of himself. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 10:40 PiS3 sux, 360 rox! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 10:42 I have to aggree with #113. The first MGS was an amazing game, but MGS2 was crap. Even the characters were goofy. The part where you played as snake was cool, but then it all went downhill after you became Raiden. I played the demo for MGS4 and I wasn't too impressed. Looked nice, but ho hum. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 10:54 THE XBOT 1.5 IS SUCK SONY 4 LIFE. ANYBODY BUYING THAT SMALL UPGRADE SYSTEM IS A ?AY,STUPID, ?USSYCOW,MOMMY ?UCK SON,PIG NECK. FAKE GHOSTBUSTER, AS DEAD AS NOAH HA HA HA AND THE REST OF THE ARK, DIRTY ASS HOLE , ?UCKING LIL BRO IN THE ASS ,GIANT PEACH FACE .MOMMMY LIL SPOILED ?ITCH ,HOMO TENDER LOVER ,TOUCHING LIL BOYS, ANIMAL LOVER;STICKING POLES IN UR MOMMY BUTT, GLAD UR MOM DIED PLAYING XBOT.AND ONE LAST THING ALL THOSES PEOPLE THAT DIED AT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER SHOULD COME BACK AND REPLACE THEM WITH THESE FAKE ASS , NOT TRYING TO HEAR THeTRUTH ASS XBOTSSSSSSSSSS HA HA HA 1.5 Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 11:00 PiS3 sux, 360 rox! Unregistered - NEW YORK GANGSTER 10.11.2005 11:05 UR MOMMY SUCK Unregistered - NEW YORK GANASTER 10.11.2005 11:07 UR GRANDMOTHER SUCK BIGG 1 PS3 RULEZ Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 11:07 I hope my post isnt # 177, thats if this thread reaches that number of posts. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 11:11 PiS3 sux, 360 rox! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 11:13 Yo mommas so fat, because she ate an Xbox and had to be crain lifted out of the roof to go shopping Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 11:18 PiS3 sux, 360 rox! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 11:24 Cant you come up with something more imaginative than "PiS3 sux, 360 rox!" just goes to show how dumb Xbot fanboys are. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 11:28 PiS3 sux, 360 rox! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 11:31 There is a stupid xboxfanboy saying 'ps3 sux, xbox360 rox' over and over How do you know that? Have you compared the two consoles with eachother??? It guess not, so STFU !!!! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 11:31 X360 sux large dangly donkey balls Rock (side to side) Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 11:33 PiS3 sux, 360 rox! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 11:43 X360 sux large dangly donkey balls (rocking back and forth) Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 11:48 PiS3 sux, 360 rox! Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 11:51 Hmm... what does that mean, PS3 sucks X360 Rocks? does it mean PS3 can do more than X360? I get it, PS3 sucks X360 in and spits it back out, am I right? Unregistered - A really, really angry Ps3 supporter 10.11.2005 12:18 Would you just stop already with this "Xbox360 rulz ps3 sux" garbage!? The system isn't even bloody released yet and you're already saying its better? Listen, chances are very, very high graphics and physics on the Ps3 will be way better then the 360 because Sony is putting tons of work and completely re-doing the console 110%. Now, lets all sit down and think. Okay, so Ps3 is gonna have the best graphics (Probably.) and physics. Mark that down. Xbox 360 will still have similar graphics. Okay, good. Now we don't really care about the Nintendo thing so lets move right along. But, in the long run, do graphics matter? Its all about the games. The physics and effects are a bonus! Think of it like that, okay? Lets all have peace and wait until both systems are released, got that? Right now its only incredibly moronic to argue what one is better. Now, anyway. I have a question about High-def. Whats the difference between High-def TV's, and mine. I looked at like, 50 HDTV's yesterday and they had more glowy, fuzzy picture qualities then my ten year old Supre-Macy piece of junk! So what difference will it do for the games? I've seen HD screenshots of all the some of the games coming out, and the picture quality looks 5x worse then my TV. But I know that could easily just be the screenshot. But still. My TV plays God Of War, Resident Evil 4 and decent looking games like Area 51 and such perfectly. So, whats the difference? Whats all this progressive scan and HD junk about if I'm fine with my old TV? Someone please answer this. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 12:27 HDTV = Higher pixel count per square inch, higher resolution pictures, making films and games look less grainy/pixelated. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 12:32 A higher resolution. Play a PC game on 800x600, then again on 1024x768 - you'll notice the difference. Both consoles will support 720p (1366x768) & 1080i (360) / 1080p (PS3) - that's 1920x1080 interlaced & progressive. Most shop displays are rubbish - 452 Tv's hooked up to one scabby AF lead. HDTV thrive on a digital source - not an analogue. Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 10.11.2005 12:34 In the UK a standard TV resolution is 640 pixels x 480 pixels, a HD resolution that is 720p (720 progressive) is 1280 pixels x 720 pixels progressivly scanned (Smoother visuals) Punk Street 10.11.2005 12:35 I'm going to be honest with you guys a console and the stuff that comes out in store's are never cheap, it always expensive, I admire Sony and Nintendo for what they're doing becasue their taking their time. I don't think the ps3 will be over 500-600 or 400 right now the Xbox 360 is priced at 399.99 for the premium edition console and Sony excutives are going to watch microsofts sales as a hawk to see if the price for it is attractive or unattractive to the consumer. I heard games for the next gen consoles will be $59.99, normally I would be pissed at this type of price but if game developers put more into the games it's worth it to pay that price. Who knows who'll sell more consoles microsoft, Sony, and maybe Nintendo whoever steps up to make better games is going to appeal to the people, to tell you all the truth innovative games sell more than average games. If Sony takes their time right now the games in the trailers will be beyond what was seen at E3 or TGS, maybe the graphics and so on will be revolutionary who knows, it's really up to the developers. Nintendo on the other hand is playing it smart because no one knows what their doing with the games so they can keep their ideas safe, Nintendo is probably going to make a come back for non-gamers and gamers maybe they will, maybe they won't this I believe in Nintendo this time. Sony's giving game developers time so they can put their ideas and stuff into the games and adjust to the console, I mean Sony game developers couldn't put all the things they wanted into the games because they had limited tools. Oh some guy named "The Truth/Fish Man" said that sonys using three dev kits so the MGS 4 trailer was probably the first Cronos dev kit, anyways until all three concoles are out no one hasn't won the console war. Peace Unregistered - NEW YORK GANGSTER 10.11.2005 12:40 Here's something to set the record straight for the blur people: The great thing about PS3's CELL SPEs is that unlike Xbox 360, it is multipurpose meaning that it can render graphics, calculate AI's and physics efficiently. If you all saw The Next-Gen Getaway video, which btw featured HDR lighting and such, it was all done by the CELL without the graphics chip RSX. That pretty much tells you how powerful CELL truly is. RSX is said to be faster and advanced than the current high-end video card king, Nvidia 7800GTX. Any graphics rendering would be done by the RSX therefore developers would only utilize 1 SPE to help render the effects although using 2 SPE's would be a tremendous help to the GPU. If all the graphics are done by RSX without the help of CELL, there would be extra SPE's for AI and Physics calculation. We all know there will be 7 active SPE's. 1 SPE is almost guaranteed for sound processing. The remaining 6 would be utilized for physics and AI. If what is said about AGEIA NovodeX using only 1 SPE is true, the usage of 2 SPE's for physics would mean better graphics and physics in games. AI most certainly would only use 2 SPE's at the most and that would leave 2 remaining SPE's. Which will be used to aid graphics rendering eventually if it won't be used for any other work. Not to bash X360, but it's just basically a custom-built computer with innovative graphical features. It's GPU; Xenos, will be doing all the graphics all by itself. The CPU will be a tri-core CPU sharing 1mb L2 cache. In developers' world, that doesn't sound good. And X360 does not utilize the next-gen optical format. Disc capacity is already an uprising issue. If you take a look at Xbox 360 games, you would notice that most of it's games looks good and comparable to the new PC games. Quake 4 on Xbox 360 looks just as good as it's PC counterpart. However, it is worth mentioning that the game will be running on locked 30fps. Everyone who is an avid gamer would tell you that 60fps is the sweet spot and running a current-gen PC game at 30fps on a next-gen console is a sign of weakness. As FPS makers, they should know 60fps will always be preferred over 30fps. Although I know some of you might disagree and say that it's not optimized(which I think is *expletive deleted*), I am merely stating that X360 games looks just like current-gen PC games. The difference between X360 trailers and proved to be real-time PS3 trailers is that X360 games looks like details-crank |