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PS3 beats Xbox 360 in Physics Test?
05 Sep 2005 02:15 | DragonFly | Playstation 3
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Oh dear, this one is going to leave a big mess. According to Extremetech.com
a company named Ageia who is working on next-gen hardware and software based physics engines for use in gaming worlds has recently stated that only the PS3 and PC’s with the Ageia’s PhysX hardware will be able to use all the engines features. Ageia’s physics acceleration engine will handle everything from “physical object interactions to fluid-based particle effects like water and smoke”. If we are to believe these recent news reports the Xbox 360 doesn’t have the horse power to do any of the fluid/smoke/particle-related physics in real-time.

However, the Xbox camp is now fighting back and are posting screenshots of emails from Ageia stating that they have been miss quoted in the Extremetech.com article. But wait, it doesn’t end there, because PlayStation fans are now claiming that the emails are fake and made by Xbox fans. I am already regretting reporting on this story… 


Update: Ageia Withdraws Comparison Statements

"AGEIA would like to go on record that we do not have data to support performance comparisons for the PS3 or Xbox360 that would impact any of our physics features," Keane said in an email, which was also sent to other news organizations. "Specifically, statements that the Xbox360 cannot run fluid simulations are not correct. In addition, conclusions about relative performance should not have been stated or implied in our presentations."

AGEIA physX Technologies
Gaming will never be the same with AGEIA physX Processor. Bridging the gap between beautiful static worlds and responsive physical reality, AGEIA physX technologies enable unlimited creative possibilities for game developers. The result will re-ignite the enthusiasm of gamer and game creators alike, and propel the game industry into unexplored new markets. Experience the world of pervasive interactive reality with physX technologies.

AGEIA physX Processor
AGEIA physX Processor is the world's first physics processor, an entirely new category of technology that promises to transform gaming. By offloading software physics processing from the CPU and GPU, AGEIA’s physX Processor completes the triangle of game function, graphics and interactive real-time environments from physics computing, balancing the load of these processing tasks and enabling incredible realism in tomorrow's games.

AGEIA physX Processor Architecture has been designed to enable radical acceleration of:

  • Rigid body dynamics
  • Universal collision detection
  • Finite element analysis
  • Soft body dynamics
  • Fluid dynamics
  • Hair simulation
  • Clothing simulation

AGEIA physX SDK
The AGEIA physX SDK is a stable, high-performance solution for game developers to enable physics-based gameplay and effects in PC and game console titles. A powerful API for the AGEIA physX Processor, the AGEIA physX SDK enables game developers to inject both software-only and hardware-accelerated features into their games. The AGEIA physX SDK is also the first and only asynchronous (multithreaded) physics API capable of unleashing the power of multiprocessor gaming systems.

Key features:

  • Stable, high-performance solver
  • First and only multiprocessing physics API
  • PC and console support
  • Works alongside and is compatible with other game engines
  • Supports vehicles, rag dolls, and character controllers
  • Integrates with any renderer
  • Full complement of code samples and tutorials
  • World-class developer support and custom solutions

You can also visit http://www.ageia.com for more information about PhysX







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1 - REALITY BITES!!!
Unregistered - PS3 Fanatic 09.05.2005 16:01
hahaha!! where are you now daddy has spoken? good job bill......,now, i think it's obvious that sony wasn't exaggerating about the PS3. this is the proof for what i was saying: microsoft is misleading people and has the inferior console.......,PS3 WILL BE THE ULTIMATE & SUPREME GAMING PLATFORM!!

2 - Ps3_no.1
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.05.2005 16:32
Yeah!

3 - PS3_no.1
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.05.2005 16:32
Yeah!

4 -
Patrick 09.05.2005 17:42
I never had a doubt that Playstation was, is, and will always be more powerful that its competitors in one way or another. Go PS3.

5 - Maybe
XBOX FAN 09.05.2005 20:33
There are definitly some things that both are better than the other, but remember you will PAY dearly for it!!

6 - lets not...
Unregistered - Dude 09.05.2005 22:38
c'mon, lets not start this again...

7 - I could not care less
Unregistered - xero coo1 09.06.2005 00:57
I really could not care less weather or not one console has slightly better graphics or slightly better physics. What matters is the experience you get from the gameplay. Just because it's a little bit better in performance doesnt even come close to meaning that the PS3 will be the better platform. I'm sure it will be great, dont get me wrong, but I mean c'mon, think about it... that doesnt mean anything.

8 -
Unregistered - xero coo1 09.06.2005 00:59
I hope this doesnt start more arguing.

9 - I hope it does!
diablo_sv21 09.06.2005 01:20
The rediculous arguements give me something to laugh at while at work.

Personally I'll just be buying both.


10 - NOW ITS REALLY OVER FOR XBOX
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.06.2005 01:28
Lets look back a few years!remmber xbox came out nearly a year after the ps2 and it did come out with a powerfuller system but it wasnt that much better why? because its games sucked even after 2 years out, PS had still made more games in its first year not to mention for every major title xbox released PS2 had five.then theres the console sales 20 million xbox 190 million PS2 even if you give xbox the extra year they could never make the numbers,the point is the consumers knew that the xbox was the stronger system but they stuck with the SONY because they know games better!and thats going to carry on with the next gen consoles its all about loyal fans and now seeing that SONYs coming out with the stronger system put with the numbers its all going to come crashing down for xbox.

11 - agree man
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.06.2005 07:07
sony care about other ppls in the world, not likes MS only fooken care about the money,. i think about it? u ppl xbox fans boy..

12 - Shut your mouth
Unregistered - ps3 follower 09.06.2005 07:20
well well well platstation has finally arrived bye bye xpox seeyaa

13 - buying both???
Unregistered - who knows 09.06.2005 09:30
Oh my god!!!!!buying both consoles (ps3 and xbox360)what a waste....are u really really a "real" player.........that doesn´t justify buying both..exclusive games are not what they were in the past between sony and MS..basicly will be the same games.......so.....please............what really justify to buy 2 consoles is a xbox360 and nintendo revolution or a ps3 and a nintendo revolution..now why? because they really are a platform with a very special exclusives games with special characters..there won´t be so many games as in sony and MS..but when nintendo have a game..they sure know how to make a REAL PLAYER CRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1................there are so bitter argues between xbox360 and ps3..let´s see something..why xbox is more powerful than ps2 but still no developer pushed xbox to the limits..and there are games that pushed ps2 hardware for the limits and xbox players look at those games and they start to laugh as we all know..(sorry ps2fans)..the console wich developers will make games to push to the limits will be the console who sell most..even though sony will probably win in the next round(yes it still early to conquer all players heart)..MS will sell even more xbox360 than her sister xbox and ps3 will sell less consoles than ps2..but it won´t be that much..it takes time...and it started with one thing, lot´s of players learned to respect xbox...so even sony has a "harder" hardware to make games developers will look for the console who sells more...but one last word.....between xbox 360 and ps3..there is nothing than ps3 makes that xbox 360 can´t.....ATI is ahead of nVidia im technology..MS is ahead of Sony in technology(that´s why their partnership)..because they couldn´t made it alone..and that´s why sony need more time to develop their console..to be a little step forward of MS...but unfortunately ps3 fans won´t be able to laugh of xbox360 fans as xbox fans laugh about ps2..because ps2 is really weak..it wasn´t good in nothing..as we can see lot´s of developers that made games only for xbox because with ps2 they couldn´t make what they want in a game..doom3..HALF-LIFE2..and so on..only to say a few..and that won´t happen with ps3 against xbox360...ps fans won´t hear developers saying that they can´t do this or that xbox360..ps3 won´t be that much ahead of xbox 360..sony needs more time with ps3 to say that it´s better..but it will just be slightly that you won´t even see the diference...and unfortunately for you ps fans u won´t be in the place of xbox fans and u won´t laugh as is happening now between xbox and ps2..it´s simply that..........

14 - Buying both
Unregistered - WildAttorney 09.06.2005 19:07
I am probably going to buy both systems because: (1) the Xbox 360 is coming out first, and I can't wait until 2007 to play high def games; (2) the PS3 has a high def DVD player, which is something I am going to have buy anyway (watching movies at standard def is a bit disappointing to me); (3) I will be able to play online with friends that have either system, and when it comes down to it, online gameplay is the best part of gaming; and (4) I can afford to. I have absolutely no interest in Revolution, because it isn't high def, so it's really not next gen gaming. The only reason I want these consoles, afterall, is to take advantage of my behemoth HDTV.

15 - Think then type
diablo_sv21 09.06.2005 23:26
I'm sorry to that poor guy that just typed all that stuff up there about buying both consoles. That was an extreme waste of energy. You said the same games will be on both consoles and then went on to say that developers didn't make the same games for both consoles, just XBOX, and they'll do it again... ???! WildAttorney then made all the other points as to why I'll also be buying both.

16 - anime fan
Unregistered - DieH@rd 09.07.2005 04:28
this is great news, but i think that x360 will be able to produce simmilar effects :D
Both consoles are good.


17 - Agree With WildAttorney
Unregistered - Alcoholics Anonymous 09.07.2005 05:23
I agree with both of the above quotes, what a waste of time wirting all that boring shit !! Most of it made no fooken sense anyway !

The best thing as far as I see it is what WildAttorney says is to buy both and I also agree the best thing is online play, not siting on your own playing with yerself but opening up the world and those annoying spoilt american kids who hate to loose at Halo 2 LOL !! You Know Who You Are !!!

If you have the cash have both adn don't waste your time on that Nintendo bollox as it is total shite.

10:4 over and out........


18 -
Unregistered - Silverback 09.07.2005 10:39
What the hell? I am tired of fan boys grasping at anything to make themselves feel better about "their" system. So if we grant that this article is true and PS3 does have better physics than the 360 can we conclude that they have the better system. Of course not. Especially if we take into consideration that the 360 is supposed to beat the PS3 in graphics and AI according to various programers who have posted on the web. (don't feel like looking for the link at the moment but will supply if needed) The bottom line is two fold; (1) we won't know which system is "better" until they are both released, (2) the almost universal consensus (from what we can tell at the moment not having the completed product to compare) is that the difference between the systems is so minimal that it is practically irrelavant. The great determiner is the games and services period. So do us all a favor and stop the fan boyish comments. I for one hope that both consoles are incredibly amazing and I will be forced to buy both to enjoy what makes both systems great.

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Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.07.2005 10:45
well i think ur right...what can we say....they are desperate if their ps3 will be not that much than xbox360 and taking soooo many time to develop the ps3......

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Unregistered - Sight 09.07.2005 10:53
And I think that in games service, ps3 won´t beat xbox360.Microsoft have already a perfect on-line gaming experience to a very perfect experience.And go to gamespot.com!!See all games in ps3 and all games in xbox360!!!!!!games in xbox360 let you fell a lot of a sweet tast in your mouth.And ps3?killzone?!...next.....??!!!!!!..it´s not that much...

21 - Learn To Write English Comment #20
Unregistered - Alcoholics Anonymous 09.07.2005 11:42
Stop going on about xbox 360 and ps3 and go to school and take a lesson in basic written english you dumb ass spotty little twat !!!

22 - Post 20 is dumb.
Unregistered - Anonymous Alex 09.07.2005 12:39
it's too early in order to find out what games are coming out on the ps3. they still have time to come out with better games......

23 - you're wrong silverback!
Unregistered - PS3 Fanatic 09.07.2005 12:52
you say: "the difference between the systems is so minimal that it is practically irrelavant" blah blah blah... this is exactly what microsoft says and is truely a LIE. i ask you if that's the case how is that xbox360 fails the physics test and PS3 passes it? is this minimal?! irrelevent?! perhaps to you but not me! PS3 will be way better in physics and AI because of it's much stronger cpu. and in graphics, both will be similar because both use a superset of shader model 3.0.(not to mention that RSX is more powerful), in addition sony has a huge and loyal fanbase and the greatest number of AAA games and developers. MS's only advantage is xboxlive but sony has just announced PS3 ONLINE. and totaly PS3 will be the better machine.

24 - For Daddy has spoken!!!!!!!!!!
Unregistered - Yo Daddy 09.07.2005 13:04
First of all....Daddy cannot be fooled by such buffoonery! The author of this mockery of article was written by none other than Mark Hachman, one of the most notorious PiS3 fanboy ever to press a caps lock key on this planet. Think am wrong just do a yahoo search on the web and you will find him and your precious Ken are really good bed fellows. The Xbox360 would never stoop to such a level. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1733019,00.asp

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1733264,00.asp

This guy has been writting false statments sense 1998.

For this is true because Daddy...........has.............Spoken!!!!!!!!!!!


25 - SO WHAT???
Unregistered - PS3 Fanatic 09.07.2005 14:02
hey daddy,the link you posted is only an article about cell cpu.. so what??! i don't understand your argument. and if that's the case, why aren't we hearing something from microsoft? why don't they decline it?

26 - what about ageia?
Unregistered - PS3 Fanatic 09.07.2005 14:10
AND why doesn't ageia decline this? don't tell me about those fake emails please, i must see it on extremetech website. looks like you can't believe the truth! but you eventually have to! because as i said before REALITY BITES!!

27 - prove to me PS3 fanatic that I am wrong
Unregistered - Silverback 09.07.2005 14:42
Why am I wrong? Show me game play that demonstrates the superiority of PS3 in both AI and graphics. What you can't? You mean to tell me that your argument is based entirely on what you want, as a fan boy, for how "your" system to perform. We have arguments all over the web, many ridiculous ones at that, both for and against the different consoles. Yet nothing has been proven. For every argument that is pro I can find one that is con. Take it all with a grain of salt and move on.

28 - The Revolution
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.07.2005 14:44
All microsuck and sony are doing is realesing a more powerful version of their older systems ps3 plays dvds just like the ps2 xbox 360 has a hard drive built in like the original. At least nintendo is trying to take accual steps forward with a new controlling sceme an making the system smaller. Hey Microsoft this is the era a small technology get with it. Nintendo Forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


29 - I doubt it
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.07.2005 16:06
yea they say that but...there are 3 cores on that die, who knows whats really possible. i mean of course Aegia will say no system without there chip can do all the physics, they wanna make money!

30 - Whiney School Girls
Unregistered - xero coo1 09.07.2005 17:23
You guys all look like a bunch of imature whiney school girls over here. All you guys do is either talk smack about one another, other consoles, and the only way to get back at a person who just rubbed your comment in your face is to make idiotic comments about their spelling. Why can't you guys be like the people in the xbox forums where you actually talk about the subject and talk to each other without getting all worked up like a stereotypical girl on her period.

31 - your right
Unregistered - The Blob 09.07.2005 17:59
Its the same on the nintendo forum they dont just insult one another they accually talk about whatever the subject is (ie Sony calling the DS a gimmick when i has sold more than double the copies of the psp) why dont u Write what u have to say and let people read it. If they disagree with dont swear at them a whole bunch use nice words and sound like a person not some stupid reneck dumbass.Nintendo Forever!!!!!!!!!


32 - cmon now!!
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.07.2005 18:13
Alright, I am a fan of both systems they both are pretty gud. I expect the ps3 to be more powerful then the xbox360 since they coming out almost a year afterwards, but i doubt the graphical diference won't be as much as it was for ps2 and xbox. Both systems wil be powerful but ps3 hasnt proven that to me yet with all them CG movies. I understand is too early for them to put a gameplay footage, remember they are almost a year behind microsoft.But when they do( hopefully on TGS), it better be Superior then anything thats out there to really prove themselves. One thing for sure, they need to get rid of them controllers!!

33 - I use to be a PS3 fanboy
Unregistered - xero coo1 09.07.2005 18:37
Back in the day when ps2 came out and so did the xbox i liked the ps2 way better but then i got an xbox and now i only use my ps2 for dvds. So now I am a huge fan of all the systems. Microsoft is just plain amazing and they are almost always on top. Sony makes great electronics in general and are always really reliable and nintendo is nintendo, they started almost everything, you just dont get any more old school than that. I'll probably end up buying all of the next gen consoles anyway.

34 - Xbox rules!!!!!!!
Unregistered - xbox fan 2 09.07.2005 18:42
All this imformation is fake and is just given to make us think that the ps3 is better than the XBOX 360 but we all know that the XBOX 360 rules!!!!

35 - u never know
Unregistered - The Blob 09.07.2005 19:12
u never know until they both come out and the Ps3 is coming out next year in march so its more like 3 or 4 months after the xbox 360

36 - CMON NOW
Unregistered - NEUTRAL 09.07.2005 19:31
I DOUBT THAT THO. I HOPE THEY ARE NOT RUSHING IT NOW.

37 - what?
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.07.2005 19:42
You guys, comeon. Stop saying I hate eggs, but I like chickens. It's not funny. If you hate MS so much, y don't you stop using MS stuffs or software completely. I bet your computer is running on some kind of MS software right now. All 3 systems will be good. Just buy what you want and stop blowing hot air.

38 - .....
Unregistered - dead people rule 09.07.2005 20:15
yeah, #30, your a dotard....coming from someone who frequents both forums, your right, the xbox 360 forum does seem to be a little more mature. but that is only because there are more xbox fanboys on this sight than there is on the xbox site. so yes, there is more venom being spewed by ps3 fans, but only because they are answering back to the xbox fags.....use your tiny brain....oh, and no one will know which console is better till they are BOTH out....

39 - xbox live SUCKS ASS!
Unregistered - andy 09.07.2005 22:31
I am writing this comment for all us hard core gamers who hate online shit. I have had a gutful of the xbox idiots who say online gaming is the only way to play games, that's bullshit, I suppose if you like running around a game world like a chicken with his head cut off trying to find someone to kill is your thing then go right ahead. Playstation has dominated the market and it still doesn't have a great online service, that says something for sony's professional attitude towards its consumer base by saying the quality of the games are more important the some shithouse online service like xbox live. Take the brilliant ps2 game GOD OF WAR for example, the game has everything, great graphics, brilliant game play and AI and excellent story which grips you right to the end, proves that you don't need to play games online. So to all of you online flunkys you can keep it I don't give a shit. LONG LINE SONY XBOX LIVE SUCKS ASS.

40 - I AGREE!
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.07.2005 23:04
online gaming only reps. for a small portion of gamers but who are they? Ill tell you,there the guys(nerds and high school outcasts)with no real friends to invite over to play so the go online to meet their counterparts half way across the world! hi iam COOLGUY1 hi iam BADASSKILLER.

41 - xero cool is a wanker
Unregistered - andy 09.07.2005 23:27
This commnent is directed to xero cool(really original name you jerk). Who is the one whinging about the psx forums now, if you dont like it stay on the xbox forums you wanker.

42 - thanks for the support coolguy1
Unregistered - andy 09.07.2005 23:35
I am responding to coolguy1 comment to say thanks for your support and you are right, online games are just plain BORING and I have no interest in playing them. You have to remember it's not the quality of the online service but the quality of the game that counts. LONG LIVE SONY, XBOX LIVE SUCKS ASS BIG TIME.

43 -
Unregistered - xero coo1 09.07.2005 23:48
Um thanks for restating what i said?

44 -
Unregistered - xero coo1 09.07.2005 23:50
oh okay...its going to that is it..."andy"...good job on that one.

45 -
Unregistered - xero coo1 09.07.2005 23:51
Andy your a whiney emo kid. No one likes you and you know it.

46 -
Unregistered - andy 09.08.2005 00:24
Great stuff Xero cool your grasp of the english language knows no bounds (Being sarcastic) if you know what the word sarcastic means. I wrote the comment to you, to tell you to if you don't like the psx forums stop whinging about them and go back to your shitty xbox forum. XBOX and XBOX live sucks.

47 - @@@@@
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.08.2005 02:11
I'm not a fanboy cus I'm going to buy all the next gen sysytems. I go to every forum and there are flame wars all over.It's getting out of hand. Why can you guys talk sensible instead of attacking each other. For me, I think all consoles will be coool and awesome. Just buy what you want and nobody complaining, will be good. I think in the end, most or some of you will buy all of them anyway. If you want to compare which one is better, just wait till all of them to come out and play them before assuming things. I will be playing the 360 this year, and can't wait for the ps3 and the revolution to come out next year. If you hate the 360 so much, have fun waiting for your ps3.

48 - Wow,
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.08.2005 03:14
Can the PS3 pass my physics test? I meant my crush dummy test. If it can withstand a bullet without a dent, hell yes PS3. Your really something,more then human.

49 - reply to 47
Unregistered - dragn avengr 09.08.2005 07:24
hey moron,......... u must be really stupid r u...right?

50 - Andy You Are A First Class Knob !!
Unregistered - Alcohlics Anonymous 09.08.2005 09:13
Comment #31. What the fuck are you talking about, you brain bead twat ! Both next generation consoles e.i. 360 and Gaystation 3 are going to be built around online gaming you fucking freakville. Just cos you have no mates in real life as well as on online does not mean the system sucks it just means your shit at online play and you cannot hold your own in a game probably havin your ass busted by a 10 year girl on Halo 2. Get some practice in and stop being such a Gaystation fanboy and whining about online play as you will be the only knob playing the console on your own on the beginner level in your bedroom everyone else will be online dumb ass, which will be alot better cos you are not online !!!

51 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.08.2005 09:16
Excellent comment #50 but i'm sure it was comment #39 it was aimed at ?

52 - Change your perspective
Unregistered - Silverback 09.08.2005 09:32
This is in response to the "Xbox Live Sucks" comment. Anyone who says that Live services "suck" simply has no vision and does understand where microsoft is planning on taking the service. Live is not just about running around looking for someone to frag but about enhancing all types of games through the service. Sony's rep in the UK has himself make comments along these lines regarding where Sony might take their live experience. In truth online can only add depth to the games we play as it gives consumers more options. Clearly Sony believes in the service enough to bring a service of its own to the PS3 and that says alot.



53 - XBOX RULES GAYSTATION FOR FOOLS !!
Unregistered - Alcohlics Anonymous 09.08.2005 09:32
Yup, sorry got carried away with that little prick andy and his wild comments about xbox live, anyways andy stick your vibro shaped Gaystation controller up yer moms ass or better still buy something bigger as I know she likes it.........(so does yer dad, loser)......

54 - Pro-PS3
Unregistered - Leathel 09.08.2005 10:06
I hate to add to the flame but, I must.. lol, Why deny the facts here, every single real time demo for PS3 looks years beyond XBOX 360, while 360 looks more like modern PC games, the only game that is between the gap here is those Based on the Unreal 3 Engine, even and this is based on an alpha Devkit that is still running on a slow Cell CPU with maybe a pair of GeForce 6800, I'm pretty sure that you've all seen it, and still denied this, Sure CPU clocks are more or less the same, but hasn't anyone figured out that they are internally different? and that maybe they will display things allot different with their own API.
now If i were a developer, I would rather work with OpenGL (PS3) than with DirectX (XBOX360) everyone talks about how hard it is to develope for PS2 but I think that Sony's move to Use OpenGL is a really good one, to my experience OpenGL runs graphics allot smoother with all FX turned on, it's better/easier to program for, and quite honestly - has a better potential of looking better on screen. although I'm not sure that DX9.0b+ brings to the table, but all the same, this may be one of the reasons why PS3 screens look allot better almost or CG quality games - yeah it's very possible.

E3- If you thought KillZone 2 looked too good to be true, you obviously didn't play Killzone for Ps2. frankly I'm not impressed with the Xbox360 tittles this far. but then Again - if Resident's Evil 5 images are the same for both PS3 and XboX360 then you'll be the judge and flame on each other as long as you want :) lol,

I'm buying a PS3 for one reason only, RPGs baby!, If Nintendo had'em I would go Revolution, see what I mean here? ;) I like Playing old games on new consoles too, like Gameboy and the DS or PS1 :D it never get's old when you're playign games like Castlevania SotN


55 - Not completely right
Unregistered - Shabazz 09.08.2005 11:08
Aegia just took this back. What? Yes, there hasn't been any studies or tests to prove this. So, just like the reports about the RSX being a mistake here is another one.

56 -
Lucid360 09.08.2005 11:25
The key here is that this test neewds proprietary hardwar... mainly the Ageia CHIP mentioned in the first diagram. If the PS3 has it of course it will do well on this test and the XB will suck... come on people... pop your head out of your ass. Both sides are playing the we got this and they dont when it all comes down to the fact Sony is not going to use MS anything and MS will not have any SOny tech in their console. I see alot of people I am assuming who are young and know almost about technology and computers and business who should maybe do a little less gaming and a little more reading and learn about these things.

57 - #54
Unregistered - Silverback 09.08.2005 11:36
I would like to know which games you are comparing? I have been following all this pretty closely and I can't think of a single game for the PS3 this is clearly better than an Xbox 360 title. In fact all the games that I have seen coming out on both consoles look practically identical. It is widely considered that delevoping for general purpose cores is easier than what is found in the PS3. Additionally, if you refer to Anandtech's article from a few months back as well as a number of other's which are readily available you will see that many experts agree that the two consoles are more similar than different. Consequently, we can all rest assured that both consoles are going to be next gen. quality with little to no noticable difference in the quality of the games as rendered by the hardware.

58 - What the hell
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.08.2005 11:44
What are you talking about leathel. The only realtime demos for PS3 that I know of are Need for speed Most Wanted and Fight Night. Both are on the 360 too and look identical to the the PS3 version. Don't spout off any crap about the killzone 2 video either. Anyone who doesn't know that was a video should be pulled out of their house and publicly executed for their stupidity. Someone told me that Aeigia is partners with Sony anyway. I guess no one has learned from the lies that Sony told about the PS2.

59 - all of you are dumbasses
Unregistered - YOUR PIMP 09.08.2005 11:55
all of you need to shut up exept the ones talking about ps3, b/c people defending the xbox box are going to lose

60 - lose???
Unregistered - Silverback 09.08.2005 12:03
Xbox fans are going to lose? What are they going to lose exactly? What a silly comment.

61 - interesting thought
Unregistered - Silverback 09.08.2005 12:10
You know the only reason that Sony has put as much effort as they have into the PS3 is because the Xbox was better at rendering games last generation. The PS2 was a major let down in hardware. Sony could have done so much better. This time around with the competition much stiffer we should see a much better console. This of course means that all console gamers win. This idea of winning and losing is only for children. Show a little more depth of thought.

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Lucid360 09.08.2005 14:07
The only real difference between Xbox and Ps2 was... PS2 was extremely had to develop for at the beginning due to the emotion engine graphics core. I still think the PS2 gfx have not approached what the emotion engine can do, but that is more because of the crippled programming it takes to get it to do things. The Xbox included a few shaders in its Graphics core and that is why things look nicer in it. Also, the Xbox is developed around technology that every company that developes PC games uses... DirectX and a portion of the WIndows Kernal. That makes it easier to port and develop games because essentually the Xbox is a stripped down PC made for gaming as a primary purpose. the PS is running its own routines and does its own things. So it take developers longer to get the hang of coding and optumizing for the systems. I believe that the XB360 and PS3 are going to be closer in performance than many people believe at the end of their lifecycles you will see that they are indeed pretty even... you give a physics engine here to get more shaders there... you take this to get that. Usually companies will use roughly the same stuff for both consoles anyway. a few smoke and flame effects here and there will be different... anbd a few exclusive levels here and there will be about all the REAL difference you notic betweehn games side by side on both consoles.

63 - Revolution
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.08.2005 19:58
You two can fight each other, it's going to get ugly. The revolution will stand on the side-line and watch while reaping the benefit.

64 - whatever but xbox still sucks ...!
Unregistered - Shad 09.08.2005 20:34
Yeah xbox 360 still suck its whole copy of Ps2 the Vertical standing consle like Ps2....its full time suck man..! i think he who buys Xbox360 is doning life biggest mistake ......Ps3 rulz..

65 - agree man
Unregistered - dragn avengr 09.08.2005 20:39
not even that they copying sony, even da games copy and they already come out in ps2. PS3 rulzzzzzz

66 - alcoholics anonymous
Unregistered - xero coo1 09.08.2005 20:42
Amen. You speak the truth. Oh and to andy, the reason im on here is because im also a PS3 fan. I was just pionting out how stupid you guys sound fighting about game consoles.

67 - Physics Test
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.09.2005 01:32
This physics test thing turned out to be not true.

http://www.extremenano.com/article/Ageia+Withdraws+Xbox+360+Comparisons/159632_1.aspx


68 - ageia withdraws statement
Unregistered - Anonymous me 09.09.2005 01:50
About a week ago there was a lot of talk on the web about a physics test performed on both the XBox 360 and PS3. It stated that the 360 couldn't handle certain physics in games. Since Ageia has retracted the statement claiming they don't know what each system can handle.

"The summary of the information below is that AGEIA would like to go on record that we do not have data to support performance comparisons for the PS3 or Xbox360 that would impact any of our physics features," Keane said in an email, which was also sent to other news organizations. "Specifically, statements that the Xbox360 cannot run fluid simulations are not correct. In addition, conclusions about relative performance should not have been stated or implied in our presentations."


69 - ageia is stupid
Unregistered - Anonymous me 09.09.2005 01:55
hahha now they withdraw their own statement, they havent got a clue what they are on about, sony have a licensing agreement with them so there so someone there is just sturing up the pot. how can you really compre two macines when one is about finished and the other is about 6 or 7 months away at the earliest? you cant.

70 - U fukn moronz
Unregistered - Lardface 09.09.2005 07:31
N if i said that 1980 Computer is better than an Xbox would u believe me. It is obvious that the Xbox isn't going 2 be as good. Get ova is gay box luvaz. The PS3 is released later and can change the design specs at any time in relation 2 da Xbox. W8 till ps3 comez out then we c who is da king of gamez

71 -
Unregistered - Silverback 09.09.2005 10:11
My hat's off to #62 for an excellent commment.

72 - ageia tests
Unregistered - j harmer 09.09.2005 16:44
check out the xbox360news.com web site for information regarding ageia tests!
ageia has retracted the statement claiming they dont know what each system can handle! (wallys or wot?). and 1 comment for our friend andy, the ps3 will be on line ready! so this does prove sony, were lagging behind in the online gaming wars, and will have to do a lot of work, to catch up to the mighty xbox live!
already with 2 million subscribers. lets hope sonys next console is more reliable than the last one, since i have had two pissed up on me! and my xbox has been no trouble at all. "rock on microsoft" you know it makes sence!


73 - XBOX
Unregistered - lardface 09.10.2005 07:30
Da XBOX continuously freezes earning it the name shit box

74 -
Unregistered - j harmer 09.10.2005 08:07
well mine has never done that! maybe the lens needs cleaning/or disc? killzone on ps3 looks great!

75 - OMG
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.10.2005 18:04
THIS IS PROVE XBOX 360 OWNS PS3 HARDCORE IN DA FACE TELL ME PS3 fanboys:
IS THIS GUD ENUGH?DONT TALK shit u know it is and also dont say your grammer is shit im just using abbreviations.


76 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.10.2005 18:07
heres the prove: http://www.ztgamedomain.com/fullimage.shtml?/images/screenshots/xbox360/graw/07.jpg

77 -
Unregistered - Sean-O 09.13.2005 05:01
My god u PS3 fanboys suck so hard as everyone knows sony talk crap about everything, look what happened with the ps2 they said that was going to be amazing but it sucked so hard the games sucked and the online isnt even worth talking about its that bad no wonder its free, Xbox 360 rules and microsoft is gonna own sony

78 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.13.2005 05:04
We only need to look at the controller to tell the PS3 is going to be shit look at it. It wouldnt look out of place in a porn film. sucks to be sony ps3 = complete shit, Microsoft rules !!

79 - die hippie
Unregistered - xbox rules!! 09.13.2005 06:41
53 rules! and all you gay little playstation lovin hippies can die

80 - xbox rules
Unregistered - die hippie 09.13.2005 06:44
any reply u jakass lovin ps3 huggin hippies


81 - online gaming sucks
Unregistered - andy 09.13.2005 20:08
In response to the utter fuckhead alcholics anonymous. I rest my case, you online fuckhead geeks think the only way to play games is online. I hate online rubbish but if want to play your games go right ahead. As for number 50 you can stick HALO up you stupid self-righteous ass, that game fucking sucks online or offline, KILLZONE is a far better game than shithouse overrated halo anyday so if want to run around an online game universe blasting the shit of each other be my guest because I think that is fucking "BORING". I've said twice already and I'll say it again ONLINE GAMING SUCKS ASS.

82 - #81 What No Friends !!
Unregistered - Alcoholics Anonymous 09.15.2005 08:30
Online sucks for you because you are shit at it and yes I agree Halo can at times be a little heavey but please instead of playing against yer mommy, play against other like minded individuals who would gladly kick yer ass with both hands tied behind their backs......Ha Ha You are such a fucking gulable loser !!! LOL As already stated both Gaystation and 360 are built around online games and palyerability so I guess you have no use for either console, so do yourself a favour and save yer pocket money chump and buy yerself a Barbie and ken and stick em up your shit pipe...HHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

83 - ps3much better
Unregistered - PS3 is da shizzzz-nite 09.15.2005 11:01
anyone who thinks that the xboy 1.5 is better than the ps3 cant do math and probably cant afford it anyways. You fratboys and rednecks and jocks obviously dont know about SPECULATIONS!

PS3 WILL RULE NEXT-GEN GAMING!!!!!
IT CANT BE STOPPED!!!!
NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY MICROSHIT HAS!!!!!!


84 - 360 can't compete.
Unregistered - PS3Player 09.16.2005 04:32
Common straight to the top, this is where the PS3 is going, it's gonna make my heart stop, sorry to say but i don't even need a 360 to shit on. Last time i check Sony was running the streets. Ya'll 360 fans think that the ladder stops at 360 well take a good look motherfuckers Sony' at 720. Hate it or love it the 360 is being outclassed and outdated by the PS3, are you curious,this time Sony is talking the talk and walking the walk. In the meantime enjoy your 360 holiday present because much later ya'll be saying "Hot damn, PS3 is the shit, i knew Sony was #1 but Microsoft fooled me anyway ." You dumb ass retarded halo playing freaks.

85 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Pimp 09.16.2005 15:28
That test is extremely inacurate. It was suspicious to me from the start. Now the company that started all this with the Algie or what ever technology says that they never even did a test on the 360 or the ps3. Damn its like if ya'll here somethin negative about the 360 it makes you feel good, but the truth is the ps3 is all hype. Pre rendered screens, shit loads of lies from sony, plus your own self rightous bull shit. To be honest tho, I wouldnt be caught putting down one system in favor of another one. Why? Because im a gamer. I love games, and would love to see new improvements, and innovation, and all the splender that comes with next gen systems. Hating Sony cause your favor microsoft is dumb. Hating microsoft in favor of sony is dumb. You gotta be excited for gaming period no matter what system you choose. I'm getting my 360 hopefully on release day. But i'll be just as excited for the ps3 when they release it. I'm a game lover not a brand name lover.

86 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Pimp 09.16.2005 15:31
Oh yea, they dont know when the hell the ps3 will be released. It could be as far as 2007. Personally i'm good with the 360 based off that alone.

87 - Ageia tests
Unregistered - fuzzylogic 09.17.2005 21:39
The ageia tests, were tested useing software on X360 and PS3, the tests showed that PS3 was the more capable system, there is no ageia chip in either the PS3 or X360, the tests were done in the software alternative of the chip for PC. With them withdrawing, from what they originaly said, it makes me wonder if M$ hasn't asked them to pull the claim about the X360's weakness, with maybe a small payment to stay quiet.

88 - Ageia tests
Unregistered - fuzzylogic 09.17.2005 23:26
The ageia tests, were tested useing software on X360 and PS3, the tests showed that PS3 was the more capable system, there is no ageia chip in either the PS3 or X360 or me, the tests were done in the software alternative of the chip for PC. With them withdrawing,their huge cocks from my ass oh i mean what they originaly said, it makes me wet wondering if M$ hasn't asked them to suck the cum out which is my weakness, with maybe a small dick in my mouth so i could stay quiet. Personally i would have settled for just sucking his huge dick or taking it up the ass. Then i might have shit blood for a week again like the last time. These guys are cute and rich and personally i like asian guys. Sony is so awesome, id do anything for them to past their silly little test. all they had to do is run a train on me sorry no ladies allowed. hooo hooooo all aboard.


89 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.18.2005 00:52
ummm baby Common straight to the top yea like that fuck me ummm, this is where the PS3 is going yea baby i love ps3 yea...baby umm, it's gonna make my heart stop you fuck me so good, sorry to say but i don't even need a 360 to shit on. Last time i check Sony was running gay side of the streets. Ya'll straight 360 fans think that the ladder stops at 360 well take a good look motherfuckers Sony' at 720 men fucked . Hate it or love it the 360 is being out gayed and outdated by the PS3, are you curious,this time Sony is talking the talk and walking the walk. In the meantime enjoy your straight 360 holiday present because much later ya'll be saying "Hot damn, PS3 is really gay , i knew Sony was #1 at butt fucking but Microsoft fooled me anyway ." You numb my ass, you fuck me retarded, i like us ps3 fan playing freaks. xbox and all its straight guys stay the fuck out of her. ps3 we butt buddies for life.


90 - the truth
Unregistered - andy 09.18.2005 00:57
I am responding to that hot sexy coolguy1 comment to say thanks for your support and you are right, girls are just plain BORING and I have no interest in them. You have to remember it's not the quality of the online service but the quality of the men that counts. LONG LIVE SONY and all the cute guys that buy them, my dad SUCKS dick BIG TIME. go pop


91 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.18.2005 01:07
hey guy we met back a few years ago!remmber xbox came out nearly a year after the ps2 and i did come out the closet with a powerfuller attraction to me but it wasnt that much better why? because i love to suck men even after 2 years out, PS had still made more games in its first year not to mention for every major title xbox released PS2 had five.then theres the gays came out the closet at nearly 20 million xbox 190 million guys but all straight, PS2 even if you give xbox the extra year they could never make the numbers why? cause they are straight,the point is the other gays knew that the xbox was the stronger and 110% straight but they are down with the SONY because they know we love me and to embrace huge cocks follow me? and thats going to carry on with the next gen consoles its all about loyal fans and now seeing that SONYs coming out the closet more and more by the thousands with the stronger desire for young handsome sexy big dick men put with the numbers its all going to come crashing down and xbox will just be for straight guys, we'll have the gaystation all to our selves. simple.

92 -
Unregistered - ps3 Fanatic 09.18.2005 01:21
ummmm hey daddy,the length your dick is only an article i've been dreaming of i love you..were both strong me so what??! i don't understand your argument. and if that's the case, why aren't you over with the straight microsoft guys? dindnt they decline it. those guys are straight we are king of the queers. ps3 so stop acting like you didnt like it. sure it takes time getting used to but once you've been butt fucked enough it'll go back its regulars size. ps3 for life remember i love you bye daddy. wwwooooooo ps3 real men support those yea.

93 -
Unregistered - Silverback 09.18.2005 01:34
ahhh my butts bleeding what the hell? I am tired of cute boys grasping at at my ass to make themselves feel better. So if we grant that this love between us guys is true and PS3 does have more gay freindly physics than the 360 can we conclude that they have the better system. Of course not. Especially if we take into consideration that we are the real gays and they are straight. 360 is supposed to beat the PS3 in supporting gays? no fucking way we win hands down. and AI according to various programers who have posted on the web enjoy making love to men anyway so we are a shoe in. (don't feel like looking for the link at the moment my ass is still sore but will supply if needed) The bottom line is two fold; (1) we already know which system supports gays. I wont stop until they are both released, (2) the almost universal consensus (from what we can tell at the moment is that we wont share our gay pride to some one not having the completed product to compare) is that the cutiest guys and the passion we share as ps3 fanatics.The great determiner is us as gay men and ps3 fans and services period. So do us fuck us from the back fast then slow fast then slow fast then slow and please do us all a favor and dont stop. the cute boyish ways of not controller your cum is getting old come on guys we suppose to be men and ps3 represenitives. I for one hope that jason and brad both call me tonight they both have the most incredibly amazing ability to fuck me just right and I will be forced to love both to enjoy what makes being gay so great.


94 -
Unregistered - xerocool 09.18.2005 01:45
looking for a man. If you are like me and you say that huge cocks taste soooo good. You speak the truth. Oh and to andy you are so cute baby, the reason im on here is because im also gay and a PS3 fan. I was just pionting out how stupid you guys sound fighting about game consoles when you know which one we belong to. ps3 sponser of gay pride


95 - you all sound like 4 year olds
Unregistered - aaron 09.18.2005 08:21
ur bitchin bout a console how sad are you people?

96 - you all sound like 4 year olds
Unregistered - aaron 09.18.2005 08:21
ur bitchin bout a console how sad are you people?

97 - Sad Xbot lovers
Unregistered - Fuzzylogic 09.18.2005 08:48
All you sad Xbox lovers, going on about ass fucking, take a look at J Allard, the biggest gay fucker I've ever seen in gameing history, then you all have bill's arse to fuck too and spin around in him 360. No need to buy X360, just fuck Bill's box and spin.

98 -
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.18.2005 09:00
I always wondered what the X was for in X360, it means X-rated 360 ass spin LOL, enjoy playing ass fucking games on Xbox live XXX 360 with Bill and J.Allard.

99 -
Unregistered - Sean-O 09.18.2005 13:33
O My u xbo fanboys suck my cock so hard and i loved being fuck by strong me as everyone knows sony is for us gays, being gay is about everything, look what happened with the ps2 they said that was going to gay it was so amazing, Tony sucked me he sucked so hard the the whole football wanted to be sucked by him and the online isnt even worth talking about its that bad no wonder its free, Xbox 360 is for straight guys and sony is for us it has gay pride. Ps3 rulez!!!!

100 -
Unregistered - fuzzylogic 09.18.2005 13:38
All you sad Xbox straight guys lol, we at ps3 are going on about ass fucking, take a look at J Allard he's straight so he's useless to us, the biggest gay fucker I've ever seen in gameing history Is ken kataturgi, then you all have my sweet ass to fuck too and spin around in him ps3. No need to buy X360 if you gay we have our own ps3 just fuck my dead father and spin.


101 -
Unregistered - PS3 is da shizzzz-nite 09.18.2005 13:58
anyone who thinks that the xboy 1.5 is better than the ps3 cant do me and probably can let me fuck him in his ass, but ps3 will be expensive and the average person cant afford it anyways so you gotta bend over and let a ps3 rep fuck you til his nut comes rushing in your ass crack, thats how im getting mine and if you end up with a ps3 that's how you'll earn yours. You fratboys and rednecks and jocks obviously dont know about ps3 gays arent just SPECULATIONS! PS3 is the proud sponsers of the gay pride community and WILL RULE NEXT-GEN GAMING!!!!! gay pride....IT CANT BE STOPPED!!!! NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY MICROSHIT HAS!!!!!!


102 - To the author of this news
Unregistered - fuzzylogic 09.18.2005 15:03
I'd just like to know why all these X-fuck zombies are coming in here, talking shit about ass fucking? it has nothing to do with the article itself. Is there anyway you can do, to delete these obscene post's?

103 - To the author of this news
Unregistered - fuzzylogic 09.18.2005 15:05
Replace anyway with anything, I made a mistake in my last post.

104 - ASDFA
Unregistered - Anonymous Coward 09.28.2005 17:50
YOU HAVE TO FULLY READ THIS FACTUAL ARTICLE ON XBOX 360 AND PS3.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html


105 - ps3
Unregistered - jimy 10.21.2005 15:47
ps3 is so cool its better that the xbox 360 the new xbox suck why do u think the ps3 comes latter that the xbox because they are adding more stuff to the system and it is going to be better that the new xbox but there are some stuff that the new xbox is going to be better than the ps3 but there is allso some stuff that the ps3 is going to be better than the new xbox so they almost equal but still the ps3 is better than the new xbox and rock my people that like sony

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