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08 May 2006 22:10 | Dusty | Playstation 3 PS3Today.com | Link to this article 
Sony announced today that it would launch the PS3 in “Clear Black” in mainland Europe, US and Australasia on November 17, 2006, as part of a worldwide simultaneous launch. The PS3 will be equipped with Blu-ray and Pre-Installed HDD and be available at €499 (20GB HDD) and €599 (60GB HDD) in Europe, and $499 and $599 in the US. PS3 is the most advanced computer system that serves as a platform to enjoy next generation computer entertainment contents in the home, realized through the combination of Cell and RSX processors, in addition to the playability of a vast catalog of PlayStation and PlayStation 2 software titles. Having Giga-bit Ethernet and a pre-installed hard disk drive (HDD) as standard in PS3, users will be able to download a variety of contents as well as access on-line games and services over the network. Equipped with basic input/output ports, PS3 supports a broad range of displays from conventional NTSC/PAL standard TVs to the latest full HD (1080i/1080p) flat panel displays, offering the joy of the most advanced computer entertainment contents to homes around the world. For use in living rooms, maximum heat and noise reduction has been achieved with a noise level equivalent to that of the current slim-line PlayStation 2. With the overwhelming computational power of the Cell processor, PS3 is capable of playing back content from Blu-ray (BD) disc at a bit rate of multiplex 48Mbps with ease, the maximum bit rate defined in BD standards. The new controller for PS3 has been created by refining and improving the world’s most popular PlayStation controller which has shipped more than several hundred million units worldwide. The controller for PS3 employs a high-precision, highly sensitive six-axis sensing system that is capable of processing all parameters within the controller itself, thereby eliminating the need for any additional settings on the display system. By applying this technology, it will become possible to freely control the PS3 system over the network. While further enhancing the joy of entertainment on PlayStation 2 and PSP™ (PlayStation®Portable), SCEE will vigorously promote PS3 as the next generation computer entertainment platform. PLAYSTATION®3 Product name: PLAYSTATION®3 CPU: Cell Processor GPU: RSX™ Sound: Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-based processing) Memory: 256MB XDR Main RAM, 256MB GDDR3 VRAM HDD: 2.5” Serial ATA ? (20GB) ? (60GB) I/O: USB 2.0 ? (x4) MemoryStick /SD/CompactFlash - ? Communication: Ethernet ? (x1 / 10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) IEEE 802.11 b/g - ? Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR) ? Wireless controller (Bluetooth) ? AV Output: Screen size 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p HDMI OUT - ? (x1 / HDMI NextGen) AV MULTI OUT ? (x1) DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) ? (x1) BD/DVD/CD Drive (Read Only): Maximum Read Speed BD 2x (BD-ROM) DVD 8x (DVD-ROM) CD 24x (CD-ROM) SACD 2x Dimensions: Approximately 325mm (W) x 98mm (H) x 274mm (D) Weight: Approximately 5 kg Source: Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Add Comment  1 -
Unregistered - Bah 05.08.2006 22:20 Ripoff in Europe....like usual. 2 -
DarkLegacy 05.08.2006 22:24 Guess everyone that screamed $399 on this forum can completly throw that out of the window. Even I was off cus I was thinking $499 for the system with the 60 gig Drive. It better be damn well packaged for $599 or it will look like the Neo Geo. And looking at what games were showed, some that CLEARLY showed fram droppages & slowdown, Im was not very impressed at all. The best game they showed was FFXIII in my opinion. Some of it was in game footage & it looked pretty good. A Majority of the later games were all CGI. Only a handful were In Game. 3 -
i am excitedUnregistered - tatmellmaster 05.08.2006 22:33 all this new infor is gettin me real excited 4 -
Bill Gates 05.08.2006 22:35 Overall this is a good price for the system considering it's it not an upgraded PS2. This is an actual Next Gen. system that will without a doubt deliver in many ways than just visuals. I think the controller will definitely add to a better game play experience once developers begging to implement it. .....I only have one question....Gran Turismo HD; can someone please clarify this one for me? I mean, was it the actual look of GT5 or was the PS3 running an HD demo @ 60 fps, and with incredible sound just to show a little more of what is capable of. 5 -
@4Unregistered - exsony fan 05.08.2006 22:45 It was cgi sorry. Sony let us down.I'm buying a 360 6 -
clarify GT:HDUnregistered - mark 05.08.2006 22:46 all it was was GT:4 made into HD....1080p....he said that GT5 will be well beyond GT:HD.... 7 -
Unregistered - so what 05.08.2006 22:47 it was not cgi and go buy a 360 who the fuk cares 8 -
HAHAHAHUnregistered - HAHA 05.08.2006 22:47 "5 - @4 Unregistered - exsony fan 05.08.2006 22:45 It was cgi sorry. Sony let us down.I'm buying a 360" that is a funny joke....considering he was playing it.... 9 -
# 6 Bill Gates 05.08.2006 22:48 That's what I thought, but I just wanted to be certain with a second opinion. Thanks #6 Fukc off #5 :) 10 -
1X HDMI?Unregistered - Sony fanmail 05.08.2006 22:51 I thought it was going to have 2x HDMI? Oh well. Looks like I will have to go for the 60gb drive. I wish it was like 360 so if I ever got it full I could pop it off and replace it with a empty one. Maybe with all those different connections...never mind, forget that idea. Oh well I guess 60 Gb will have to do. So far the screenshots look worthy!! I wonder if the closeups headshots of the Final Fantasy characters were realtime. If so they rival the detail in Advent Children. WoW 11 -
#8Bill Gates 05.08.2006 22:52 I don't think he was actually playing it man. He was using the controller to select the cars andstages but other than that I think it was all AI controlled. Not shooting your comment down trust me, I'm a huge GT fan. It's the only reason why I even watched the confrence to begin with. I'm just calling it like I saw it. 12 -
Unregistered - Kyle 05.08.2006 22:59 Wow you people need to calm down. If you expected a price tag of anything less then no offence but you are retarted. 500 and 600 is an attainable sum of money people. I know it takes a bit of effort but most people who can save 400 for a premium 360 can save a bit more and get a 20GB PS3 cuz 20 GB is more than enough. Hell im 15 and i can save that much by August if i dont spend my money on useless stuff, i dont even have a job. And no im not rich just to clear that out just smart with money. Deal with it people, I know you will regret getting a 360 when i rub it in your face later. 13 -
Unregistered - pat 05.08.2006 22:59 Well I hate to say I told ya so, but ....... and to be up-front, after what I saw on the live feed, I don't think I will be buying a PS3 anytime soon. The games that I am interested in are not exclusive and can be played just as well on another machine for far less money. 14 -
to Number 4Unregistered - Meh 05.08.2006 23:02 Are you on crack ?? Did you watch the E3 feed ?? They showed nothing to make me want to run out and spend this kind of cash on it. As was stated, games shown "LACKED" big time and the rest was nice movies of cinematic. Even the Looooonnnnnggggggg winded GT demo was nothing more than just what you would see as a replay ... "NOT IN GAME" 15 -
Oh yeahBill Gates 05.08.2006 23:03 Basic Community Services •Video Chat •Friends List •Ranking •Voice Messaging •Text Messaging •Account Mgt. •Player Profile •Latest Info All for free!!! 16 -
IMBECILESUnregistered - BlindMan 05.08.2006 23:05 you guys are so dumd some times, while you keep on saying that Sony sucked, well all the major games sites are reporting the event as a MONSTER SHOW. Relax, playables games will be on the floor when the companies have their Press Conference, today was Sony's Press Conference, just like tomorrow will be MS and Nintendo's time to show, they won't have playable games too, but from the 12th to the 15th everything will be open to the public. It's a week long show you morons. Anyway $500 for me is a damn good price giving, how the talk is at gamespot, they liked it. 17 -
xbox360rocks 05.08.2006 23:05 I feel bad saying this, lmao, but god am I happy I chose the 360, oh and I TOLD YA SO, hehehe 18 -
ignoreBill Gates 05.08.2006 23:10 ignore #17 he's only 9 years old. 19 -
fUnregistered - f 05.08.2006 23:16 Number 15 XBL has that same sh!t for free as well 20 -
nothing they say can taint the awesomenessUnregistered - tatty 05.08.2006 23:17 I have a 360 and am more of a ps fan and anticipating the ps3. YOu are jsut being ignorant to say the 360 is better. It clearly is not. SOny has a better controller, online(free), games(because of companies nad the fact they are on blu-ray), and the systemn itself. I love my 360 and am not saying it is a bad system, but i believe the PS3 will be a little better. 21 -
um no tehy dontUnregistered - mathis 05.08.2006 23:18 XBL doesnt have that free..... dream on 22 -
Not ImpressedUnregistered - dsfsdf 05.08.2006 23:20 Watched the hole damn thing on gamespot. Sad to say it but its gonna be a long time before I get a ps3. The HD GT trailer was nice... but I cannot take anything sony gives me at face value. The controller does not interest me... its sad that sony and MS are stealing nintendo's ideas (MS patended motion detection technology so expect something out of them soon also). Final Fantasy will draw me to the ps3.. only thing I am excited about. Oh and once again sony lied... you know.. that thing about there being two hdmi outputs... And once again sony refuses to remake their controller design. The 360 controllers beats the ps2 style hands down. If microsoft is going to have the show everyone is expecting... things will not be looking good. Being with Sony for the past ten years is great... time to move on. 23 -
Unregistered - player1 05.08.2006 23:20 lets see,...what will I do come november, buy a $600 ps3 with a few games available or buy a re-priced premium $300 xbox360 with tons of games available,....hmm.......so should I get next-gen graphics for $300 or $600....hmm....I wonder what I should do................................. 24 -
# 19Bill Gates 05.08.2006 23:22 It's only for free for the week of E3, you.......D I P S H ! T !!!!! 25 -
#19Unregistered - sadasd 05.08.2006 23:23 LOL number #19 could you please explain to me what on that list is for the sony service and not XBL??? I cannot wait to hear this.... dip sh!t 26 -
@20Unregistered - wii 05.08.2006 23:24 u don't have a 360 27 -
# 23Bill Gates 05.08.2006 23:25 you should eat your mother out. LOL Fukc it I know I'm getting a PS3 at launch and a Wii. So it's time for some insults..lol 28 -
PS3 SWEEPING THE FLOORUnregistered - BlindMan 05.08.2006 23:28 For all of you saying that Sony lied, the major game sites are reprting a different story and i can back this up, you can tell by the way they write that it was MONSTER SHOW with playables games still comming later this week http://ps3.ign.com/articles/705/705742p1.html Now you wanna still get a 360 go ahead but don't say i din't warn you. HOORAH 29 -
Unregistered - ya man 100 grand 05.08.2006 23:29 I SAW E3, AND I THOUGHT SONY DID A GOOD JOB WIT SOME OF THEIR GAMES.. BUT THAT PRICE IS CRAZY, IM GONNA HAV TO SELL A KIDNEY TO EVEN TOUCH THE CONTROLLER.. BUT THAT IS STILL A GOOD DEAL CONSIDERING WHAT IT CAN DO.. FOR THOSE WHO SAY THAT THEY SHOULD GET A 360.. YOULL REGRET IT.. 30 -
@27Unregistered - wii 05.08.2006 23:29 u don't have da money get both your 2year old. 31 -
Unregistered - player1 05.08.2006 23:30 No thanks my mom is too ugly. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha sticks and stones biach 32 -
Sony is a pure Copy cat of every system!!!!Unregistered - Flame 05.08.2006 23:32 They first Copyed Xbox Live and the Two price pack,( like the core and premium package)and now they copyed the Wii Controller. This is an insult to the console Wars, more like a war that's been cheated. At last Sony revealed the price at $600 dollars( I knew it all along). Xbox360 doesn't need to down the price of the 360 to win. Microsoft bring on the SECOND WAVE OF GAMES THAT WILL END THIS WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Bring on Too Human, Gears of War, HaloMMO or Halo 3, Huxley, Lost Planet, Mass Effect, Crackdown and a whole bunch of others for reinforcements. Nuff Said. 33 -
# 30Bill Gates 05.08.2006 23:37 learn how to write the English language before you try insulting people, You Dip s)-(it 34 -
former questionmark 05.08.2006 23:37 the only thing that's not free for xbox live on that list is video chat. silver service is free and does everything else on there. 35 -
U HAVE 2 PAY 4 DA BESTUnregistered - XBOX 360 FANBOY 05.08.2006 23:44 XBOX LIVE SERVICE IS $50 A YEAR THATS CHEAP. 36 -
THANKS SONY FOR GIVING US THE PRICEUnregistered - jj 05.08.2006 23:47 xbox 360 is 400 / ps3 is 500 with a blu-ray player its not to bad 37 -
PS3 is worth every pennyUnregistered - Nameless 05.08.2006 23:50 If you don't believe me check this out: http://www.metalgearsolid.org/downloads/metalgearsolid4e3.divx All done with the realtime engine, simply amazing... Peace 38 -
don't tell me 360 is cheaperUnregistered - boba bui 05.08.2006 23:57 MS has deceptive pricing, 399 for system 200 for hd-dvd (eventually your gonna need it, maybe 300 for brd) 60 a year for xbl = 300 for 5 years grand total = $899 this is def not priceless, I'll take ps3 for 499 39 -
Unregistered - wake up and get a life 05.08.2006 23:59 I like video games as much as the next guy, I have read about the ps3 developement for 4 or so years now, I can honestly say that through all of my analysis, sony knows what they are doing. Sony is one of the biggest electronics comapanies in the world and has done a damn good job with video games. They are only going to price it at 500 dollars BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT IS WORTH. It has more next gen technologies than a top of the line pc priced at thousands! Calm down people... sonys got their sh*t together 40 -
Wii and 360Chaos73 05.08.2006 23:59 Ok....I cant wait to see Nintendo and MS go next...then we can compare a little better..... I know I have been blasting away since I watched that crap from Sony tonight........ Glad I got my 360......Can't wait to see what Wii is going to offer...and what MS has new coming out..... How much you wanna bet that MS announces that Live will now be a free service for everything...... If they do this....Sony is gonna have a hard time beating them in this war. Listen Sony will get it's fair share of the market....but I would bet anything that the huge lead they have had in the market shrinks to something more like this. Sony 38% MS 42% Wii 20% I guess time will tell..... 41 -
SO WHATTHAMMER1 05.09.2006 00:02 IT still has to make games that make me want it. The only game is tekken 6 and that is not enough for me to spend $500.00 - $600.00. Not even a blue ray player is worth that. I already have a 360. I might get the PS3 if they pump up some good games. Or even a price drop would be good. But I know I’m getting a Wii for real. 42 -
Unregistered - Hmm 05.09.2006 00:03 If they say LIVE is free, I just bought my membership and what some $$$$ back. Or convert it to MS Gamer Points. 43 -
Just thought of thisChaos73 05.09.2006 00:05 That market share reminded me alot of the Presidential race back in 92...... Sony = George Bush (I voted for) MS = Bill Clinton (hated the guy) Wii = Ross Perot (funny little bastard) If it wasnt for Wii and Ross Perot....Sony and George would have won.... so my perdictions may ring true....MS wins this round.....maybe even Next...But Sony comes back eventually....with the PS5....which = George W Bush. 44 -
#42Chaos73 05.09.2006 00:08 Yeah...thats what I have heard anyways that they will anounce it will become a free service and anyone that has bought into it already will be compensated with Gamer Points or whatever.... The only reason I have waited to get my subscription was to see what they announce tomorrow....My free month's trial runs out this weeked I think.....so I hope they do it soon... 45 -
Unregistered - PS3 Fan 05.09.2006 00:09 £340 for PS3 with 20Gb hard drive/£410 for PS3 with 60Gb hard drive,great prices. 46 -
Unregistered - TheAnomaly aka Player1 aka TheOne 05.09.2006 00:21 With the ps2 sony was still losing money even after they redesigned it to be smaller but this time they can't opt to be cheap like that thanks to the true innovators in video gaming MS. MS deserves to be on top. 47 -
360/ps3Unregistered - 360/ps3 05.09.2006 01:00 lol yeah 36 you keep thinkin that and all that money and hype and the ps3 wont even have rumble feature for the controller....see when you look at the two systems your tradin one thing for anotha it all come down to preference. ps3, blu tooth but no rumble for the controller. 360, no blue tooth but has great rumble feat. ps3, blu ray disk. 360, custom soundtrack in games. ps3, 60 gb hdd that developers can depend on. 360, 20 gb hdd for custom soundtracks and various feats. I mean you get the idea right.... Basically with the ps3 you payin for the blu ray disks. Personally i prefer the 360 see i could care less about hi def movies so that makes blu ray to none effect to me. Now seein as how im a music fan, the custom soundtrack for ingames is a great great thing for me. Now in terms of the controller, theres no question that the 360 controller is a great controller with the option of turnin the 360 on and off and open and close the tray. Blue tooth, means nonthin to me. Now thats just my preference, as i said before thats all it comes down to is preference. But sayin somethin is worth every penny is rarely the case. Just gotta choose whats best for you. I high lighted what was better for me. Blu ray movies i mean...whatever. Progressive scan dvd's on lcd tv i mean do you really need better..they played it safe with the 360..and i prefer it. interestin to see how the ps3 plays out but so far all their promises are fading. No rumble feat. for the controller is a step backwards, and its funny cause Ken kut whatever was talkin sooooo muc ishhh and look. Im not putting it down just makin a statement....nothins worth every penny. Oh and the 360 is 100 cheaper and if you dont care bout a hard drive or wireless then its 200 dollars cheaper than the ps3....just somethin to think about. 48 -
PAUL CERULA 05.09.2006 01:10 I'll admit I was quite surprised at the load of knowledge Sony gave us all. After seeing what the PS3 dev. case can do I'm even more excited to see the 360 stuff. Let's break this down. 1. Gameplay / Videos / demos....They looked great, exactly what the PS3 should be at in development. But a lot of major forerunner games weren't even scheduled close to launch but they showed them anyways to display whats to come. This misleads a lot of people. There was a lot of CGI and pre-rendered segments, there even were bits of video mixed in with the gameplay. And there was definately a lot of framerate issues in half the games there. It'd lag or jump every other time that one guy swung his sword in the first gameplay. A lot of multiplatform character demos were incredible like the tiger woods and NBA. Wait that was EA, how are they gonna cut the edges off on those games? 2. Controller....this was one of my thoughts they would just go back to the dual shock and drop the banana. But they added a simple gyroscope in it and tossed the vibration. Honestly think about how you'll use the gyroscope. It's gonna be flight sims, boat races, and car racing, that's pretty limited considering those aren't the most popular game types. And no vibration is horrible to loose just for this function. Considering the Vibration mode was used in every game and everywhere it's devastating to loose it. You'll use this gyroscope to do short bits of vehicle use scattered through campaigns. No...not for me 3. PRICE....of course, 500 for 20gb, 600 for 60gb. The problem here is that the 40gb difference is a sign that you'll need your hard drive more than ever if your an average gamer. No way would Sony just toss away 100 bucks revenue for a smaller hard drive. They're in the hole big time. Also in the GT4 HD part the dev. said that the hard drive would download campaign maps, races, etc to shorten load times. Hello...isn't this what the Blu-ray was meant to do. And considering their confidence in people buying a 60gb pack it's clear your hard drive will be used a lot. And that some people won't be able to do with just a 20gb. 4. PS HUB....Perhaps I missed it but I didn't see an interface for anything other than the online music shop. Anyways you think that online is free, your dreaming. Who upkeeps and pays hundreds to build and preserve online with Sony. The developers, and who did Sony say would charge you for fees if they wanted to, the developers. Also online isn't mandatory so you'll only get the most popular games online and they will have good online which will cost a fortune to run and build. WORD TO THE WISE == NOTHING IS FREE Overall the games I was impressed with weren't scheduled for launch. And Tuesday it's 360's time to rebuttle this strong statement by Sony. There's lots of mixed feelings about this conference. Everyone who would visit a PS3 forum already believes that 5-600 bucks is no problem. Well how about the more than 90% people without HDTV's. Blu-ray may be worth it to you unquestionably but it doesn't appeal to the bulk market. You need to think outside of your lust to get the real picture of how this will play out. how much truth can you handle.... 49 -
360 winsUnregistered - Timdog 05.09.2006 01:14 Sorry this isnt going to be good for Sony. Microsoft made the better choice, watch when they drop their price tag to 299 to really choke Sony out in the United States. Good luck to the American company!!!!! You know thats what the japanese say about Sony!!!! Its 2006 50 -
PAUL CERULA 05.09.2006 01:17 Also to add one more thing here's an article about having the 20gb version possibly not supporting 1080p and more. Take it for what it's worth. http://ps3.ign.com/articles/705/705887p1.html 51 -
360/ps3Unregistered - 360/ps3 05.09.2006 01:19 # 48 you really do get the picture.....that was a honest post. 52 -
tom1595 05.09.2006 01:21 hey, i live in australia and i wanna know how much its gonna cost here! if it costs so much more in europe than US, how much will i have to pay? 53 -
Sony Missed this one by alot?Unregistered - Timdog 05.09.2006 01:22 The core system wasnt appealing, I would use my computer, I want the best the system can over. 600 is going to scare away the mothers, and 360 is gonna be filling alot of households with teenagers because the price of gas and what the salesman say its basically the same system, oh wow Sony big boo boo!!! Thank God you have your shills in Japan>>>> 54 -
tell me now !!!!!!!!Unregistered - - 05.09.2006 02:05 if the cheaper ps3 has no hdmi will it still play bluray movies 55 -
Agree with #48Joe 05.09.2006 02:14 Paul... I couldn't say it better myself. 56 -
Checklist:Alexander 05.09.2006 02:28 15 - Oh yeah Bill Gates 05.08.2006 23:03 Basic Community Services •Video Chat (coming June/July...before PS3) •Friends List ...check! •Ranking ...check! •Voice Messaging ...check! •Text Messaging ...check! •Account Mgt. ...check! •Player Profile ...check! •Latest Info ...check! All for free!!! ...check! And they were all available on the xbox 1, 5 years ago, admittied for 40 pounds a year. Oh and yes they are free on live. The only thjing your paying for is actual multiplayer gaming, oh and they being lovely at the moment with loads of free weeks and weekends - i wonder why, lol 57 -
Unregistered - Wes 05.09.2006 02:34 Thats well over priced. it looks great (even if some is cgi), but that pricetag is giant, and i cant see many people being able to reach that deep into their pockets, even if they want to. 58 -
Unregistered - Briggs 05.09.2006 02:34 Well I have no intention of buying a 360 now, I'll get the ps3 and the Wii instead. 59 -
360 Fools/ PS3 till i DieUnregistered - BlindMan 05.09.2006 02:41 I agree guys the pricetag is giant, but go to www.gametrailers.com and see the video that they have for the PS3 and tell me if that beast is not worth $500. You gotta love it or hate, i got one word for these videos WOOOOOOOOOOOOW, especially EightDays, Getaway, MSG4, Resistance, Heavenly Sword,Genji and especially Assassin's Creed. I'll be getting my PS3 at lauch, that's a must. Don't let them 360fans buy you into buying the 360 because in the long run you will regret it, from a price perspective the PS3 is a lot, but from graphic the 360 can't touch it, think twice before buying a 360 ober a PS3, and it my word for today. HOORAH 60 -
What now Xbots??Dark Samurai 05.09.2006 04:36 All of your "sony lied" crap turned out to be FALSE: 1- Fully playable PS3 games at the show 2- Reasonable price 3- GT5 in 1080p at 60 fps 4- Tried and true Dualshock2 with motion sensors 61 -
JibUnregistered - Jib 05.09.2006 04:53 lol man you are blind. only 3 games impressed me: Getaway, MGS, and heavenly sword (looks like a nighty nine nights game). the rest were OKAY, or just lacking real in-game, human controlled videos. - i mean resistance looked good but the gameplay doesn't look all that fun. what's so different about it? looks repetetive. - eight days was obviously scripted, or cgi. - genji. nighty nine nights clearly owns this game. that video was garbage. - Assassin's Creed. a cgi. but i trust ubisoft will come out with something good. - warhawk. just a straight disappointment. it looks like a high-res crimson skies on the xbox. i was planning on keeping one of my ps3's but now would rather sell it all and wait until the price goes down (400ish). 636$(system+tax) + 64$ (game) = 700$ for a gaming system is way way too much and i think this'll sway a lot of even the most hardcore sony fans. why spend $600 on something that might not even be better than it's 400$ console rival? xbox 360 is comming out with just as many if not more AAA games out this year. 62 -
At lastUnregistered - Jason13 05.09.2006 05:26 At last we can now prepare for november 17 the most exciting thing in gaming the release of the true next gen which is the ps3, the games for the ps3 is looking pretty good better than the 360, but still a long way to go ill just of to wait but it will worth the wait come november 17. 63 -
its aint over yet!!!!!Unregistered - blaze33 05.09.2006 05:39 they gonna show more games for the ps3 when e3 start!!! and BTW...fall of man gonna be great coz it gonna have a lot of crazy wepons...just like what we seen in the ratchet series...you guys just wait :) cant wait to get my ps3!!!...i got right now for 500$...i guess i can get 100$ more when ps3 comes in novmber i advice everyone who plans to get ps3 to start saving there money now...ps3 worth every pennny :) 64 -
@ #61Dark Samurai 05.09.2006 05:47 PS3 is not going to launch tommorow, it's still 6 months left. And in this period of time , these games improve and new games will show up. You don't have to make your purchase decision now! 65 -
#15 and the rest of the free service gurosUnregistered - FearingTheWorst 05.09.2006 05:49 i thought Sony said i would be able to PLAY online for free!! did you forget to leave this part out? i'm confused. i read an article here a month or two where everybody in here was saying we'll be playing for free!! did Sony mention this and i just missed it? need more info!!! thanx in advance. 66 -
#61 is rightDark Samurai 05.09.2006 05:50 This was a pre E3 conferece. E3 hasn't begun yet. 67 -
i meant 63 Dark Samurai 05.09.2006 05:52 shoot, i must rest a little. 68 -
The end of SonyUnregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.09.2006 05:59 So this is the end of Sony 499 Euro's for a machine without a HDMI port, Blue Ray is useless then 599 Euro's, buy an extra controller and a game with it and you'll be back on your account for around 750 Euro's. The games? Not seen much yet. The motorthing is allright but not great. It'll do the same about as the 360 with graphics in the end, but the 360 GPU is slightly better then the one of the PS3 which is a Nvidia 7900 while the 360 GPU is a special designed one for the console. So about the same technology for at the time of the launch half the price of the PS3 you'll get the 360 Premium for 300 or 350 Euro's/Dollars around Christmas and the PS3 with HDMI port for 600 Euro's/Dollars with a BR player that isn't even the definitive standard yet. That's not very wise to do, while it is sure the games will be around the same quality of graphics. Go buy the 360, eventually get a seperate HD-DVD or BR add-on player if the standard is set. The add-on player of the 360 will have a HDMI port in the end also, just wait and see. So at the moment you'll be missing out nothing, heck even have the next gen console now in stead of waiting endlessly on Sony, not having to hear their lies again (TWO HDMI ports? come on. They won't even get games in 1080p because the GPU can't process anything else then Tetris in 1080p on one screen not to say two as Sony did, it will be 480p or 720p where the 360 has the standard 720p which is forced by MS, Sony has no rule so game developers can even choose 480p which is lame as hell). I was going to get the PS3 but now I'll sh*t on it and have bought the 360, hope everyone will do and Sony will go bankrupt those pantsh*tters. Heck I'll even get the Wii in some time just because it will be some different fun and spend the same as one PS3 have two consoles and double fun for the same amount of money!!! 69 -
I can't believe sony just spilt the market for their consumers!!!hardwood2001 05.09.2006 06:09 The PlayStation 3 will come in two configurations, one will have a 20GB hard drive and the other will have a 60GB hard drive. However, losing 40GB isn't the only downgrade with the 20GB version. The 20GB version, priced at $499, will not have Memory Stick, SD, or Compact Flash inputs, Wi-Fi capabilities, or any HDMI output. hardwood2001: I can't believe sony just spilt the market for their consumers!!! 70 -
JibUnregistered - Jib 05.09.2006 06:32 the bad thing about the "core" ps3 is that some of those things mentioned above ^ aren't upgradable. atleast the core for the 360's still upgradable (only real difference is the hard drive) as to the ps3 where if you were to be low on budget (500+tax is still a lot), and decide to get the core ps3, you're screwed with the hdmi feature unless you're willing to buy another ps3(premium) with the hdmi. could have sworn sony was talkin' trash about the 360 having 2 sku's. hmm.. yeah.. 71 -
NO HD MOVIES UNLESS YOU PAY 600Unregistered - jj 05.09.2006 07:12 600 + 2 games = 700 + a controller 750 holy crap thats dear and with no rumble feature on the controller thats sad sony wont win many hearts at those prices 72 -
Unregistered - gg 05.09.2006 07:41 Actually the games will most likely be 60 so.. that's: $600 system + $120 two games + $40 Controller = $760 Depending on tax (3% to 8%), that's anywhere from $780 to $820 73 -
Unregistered - bob Jenkins 05.09.2006 08:01 You Sony fand boys are all the same. Sony could put a tird on a paper plate and you sony fanboys would buy it. 74 -
Unregistered - Nitz 05.09.2006 08:08 YOu get the option but are pretty much FORCED to buy the more expensive one. 75 -
Ponder thisIslandkiwi 05.09.2006 08:08 This was cheaper than I expected, I imagined it was start off at 599. But I feel sorry for the Europeans, who always seem to get the pointy end of the value stick. Is it worth the price? In my opinion, probably not. I could get a 360 and a Wii for the price of the lower end Ps3 (allegedly, Wii has not shown pricing yet). I buy consoles to play games. So personally, I'd rather have two consoles than one console. The controller is another issue. No vibration anymore. They say it has to do with the motion sensing, I imagine it has a lot more to do with the patent infringement lawsuit. But we've had game vibration forever; believe me, you'll miss it. Think of driving games, it was a very effective way of alerting you to the fact you were taking turns too fast. But almost as importantly this affects the backwards compatibility of all ps/ps2 games. I say almost because, as a 360 owner, I don't go back to the older library all that much. Sony's online for free thing doesn't sound any different than Xbox Live, either. I did not hear them say you could play games for free online. I also did not hear that Sony required all games to be hi-def, or that they were required to be online enabled. The only requirement I've heard is that they be on Blu-Ray. Finally, the two hard drive system. The $499 PS3 told me something, it was that MS may very well drop the price of their premium system. Even if only by 50 dollars, it would certainly sting. But if Sony is willing to sell at $499, then the 20 gig hard drive isn't adding that much to the cost of the console. 76 -
This is amusingUnregistered - Neutral 05.09.2006 08:14 Im finding very funny how all of you are reacting to all this news and how you argue over it. This has come to no suprise to me as I expected a minimum of 499. One of the other aticles on this site had someone commenting that it was going to be 350 and I said that was nieve thinking and people argued with me but I turned out to be right. I think alot of kids are nieve enough to think that it would be any less. Anyway im not suprised. So 499 or 599 and being im in the uk I think 599 euros converts to just over £ 400 which isnt bad considering the standalong blue-ray played will be alot more and with the PS3 you get allot more. I will preorder one and when their is a shortage (which there will be) I will sell it staright away on ebay for a big profit then buy another one when more are available. Did exactly the same with the 360 and made that much of a profit the 360 hardly cost me a thing. 77 -
DOWNGRADE STATION 3Unregistered - BlindMan 05.09.2006 08:23 HAW HAW. 78 -
gggUnregistered - ggg 05.09.2006 08:30 for 600$ you can get yourself a Premium 360 and a Nintendo Wii. IMO, Xbox360 + Nintendo Wii >>>>>> PS3 79 -
$70 GAME HELL NO!!!Unregistered - XBOX 360 FANBOY 05.09.2006 08:40 U GUYS FORGOT SOMETHING WHAT WILL THE GAMES COST THATS MY..? I DON'T NO ABOUT U I HATE PAYING $60.. NOBODY GOING 2 PAY $70... A USED GAME WOULD BE $65 U NO GAMESTOP& EB LOVE 2 RIPOFF GAMERS.. TELL ME WHAT U THINK??? 80 -
Unregistered - blaze33 05.09.2006 08:41 at least with the ps3 you gonna get free online gaming.... when you get xbox360 you pay 400$ for the console...but microsoft charge you for playing online...thats mean you would pay more than 400$ to enjoy xbox360(after all...online is really importent in xbox360...microsoft said that themself)...so with all the online payment and xbox360...you probaly gonna lose more money to enjoy xbox360 than ps3....>FACT 81 -
JibUnregistered - Jib 05.09.2006 08:43 if you look at sony's "BASIC" plan, it doesn't include being able to play multiplayer online. someone correct me with a link if i'm wrong. everything on that basic plan can be done on the 360 "silver" plan which is also free. 82 -
QuestionIslandkiwi 05.09.2006 08:47 With the two different pricing structures, what's the difference between the two packages? I know the hard drives are different sizes, but are any other features removed? 83 -
Online gaming #80Unregistered - Neutral 05.09.2006 08:47 You wont get free online gaming as sony will have to regain the costs somewhere. Why do people think Sony will give you something for free? Its a business not a charity and they will need to recoup costs somehow to maintain the online network and development and considering its a on going thing it will need to be payed for. As for xbox live well cost me £21 for 12 months so that isnt bad. No one pays the full amount as you only have to go on ebay and buy a subscription card and you can usually get one for below 30. Will get a PS3 so can play both 360 and PS3 online 84 -
xbox ps3 nintendoUnregistered - tobias 05.09.2006 08:48 I have read the spec and from what i can gather the PS3 "Cell" processor is far superior to either that of the nintendo or xbox. blue-ray hd discs (lovely) sensor controller (interesting but copying nintendo) and as always there'll be a reliable games stable as the ps3 will be able to play the older ps2 ones. i am biased toward ps but then i remember nintendo vs megadrive and they always fell short (anyone remember the atrocious conversion of streetfighter II on nintendo, blocky graphics and nintendo got blanka's name wrong). i also find the xbox controllers and console rather too chunky. i'm thinking of blasting my overdraft to stock up on these and put them on ebay, they always under supply and i want the cash to just roll on in... 85 -
former questionmark 05.09.2006 08:50 sony is not charging you to play online. however, each individual developer can charge you if they want to. and if the service is any good, many devs will to recoup production costs. so instaed of paying $50 a year and being able to play everything online, you might end up paying $15 a month for individual games, and pay $100s a year. not saying this is exactly what will happen, but it's up to the devs. 86 -
JibUnregistered - Jib 05.09.2006 08:53 @island it won't have Memory Stick, SD or Compact Flash reading capabilities, WiFi support, and more importantly, it won't have HDMI. 87 -
JibUnregistered - Jib 05.09.2006 08:55 majority of xbox360 games are playable online. anyone know if it'll be the same for the ps3? 88 -
jibformer questionmark 05.09.2006 09:03 they didn't push it last time with much other than sports titles. i would think now you'll see more by default. what's the purpose of touting it, and claiming it as an advantage if they don't use it hardly again? 89 -
Unregistered - blaze33 05.09.2006 09:04 and i forget to say this..with the ps3 you will be able to watch blu-ray movies..which is of course better than DVD..and plus,there will be no 2 or 3 discs games comes with the ps3,and no any compress data, ALL HIGH QUALITY GAMES, and dont you forget that ps3 is region free,no more importing games :).....thanks to the blu-ray of course... and with the ps3 you will be able to play really innovation games...such as eye judgment by eye toy...or play with you guitar with guitar hero...and you can sing with singstar..and now with the new controller..you can do many great things FPS is gonna be different with the ps3 than the ps2...thank to the new controller...and PLUS,its less weight than xbox360 controller and wii remote and do you xbox fanboys remmber your noisy xbox360...well,with the ps3 you wount hear noise as you get in your xbox360...coz the noise that will come out from the ps3 is just the same with the slim ps2..which is not noisy at all ALL that for 500$/600$.....i think it deserve all that money...START SAVING MONEY GUYS!!! 90 -
JibUnregistered - Jib 05.09.2006 09:09 'cause like you said, it's up to the developers. as a developer, do you think they're willing to take a chance on charging people to play one game? opposed to the ms way where people pay 50 a year to be able to play ANY of the many titles. this was why i asked the question. i was wondering if sony was doing anything special to motivate developers to incorporate online play. 91 -
are u talking about?Unregistered - what 05.09.2006 09:09 ps3 sucks. who needs blue ray if games like oblivion with 200+ hours of gameplay fit on just one dvd? only multimedia-freaks are interested in this kind of stuff. playing games "sidewinder-style" also sucks. MS + Nintendo will steal the show and by november nobody wants a ps3 anymore .. what a wonderful dream! 92 -
Answer to insulting and ill-advised #21Unregistered - Dr flambay 05.09.2006 09:54 pasted off Xbox live website. An Xbox Live® Silver Membership is free of charge for all Xbox 360™ owners - so there's no reason not to try it, even if you're just curious. As a Silver Member you can: Create a gamer profile Pick a gamertag and build a gamer profile. You can choose a gamer picture to distinguish yourself from the crowd, put up your personal motto and pick a Gamer Zone. Create and maintain a friends list Make new friends, keep tabs on old ones and build online communities. Access Xbox Live Arcade and Marketplace Check out demos and trailers and buy great casual arcade games like the classic Galaga or the smash hit Bejeweled. Messaging The next generation of Xbox Live on Xbox 360 enables system-wide messaging regardless of the game you're playing, with some amazing features to boot... Inbox Immediately see if you have any messages at the touch of a button. The Message Centre Inbox is set up like the standard email inbox. You can even send messages to multiple recipients - up to 100 at once! Now there's a quick way to set up a gaming session with your friends. Voice messaging Record, send, and receive personal messages over the Xbox 360 Headset. Text messaging Send and receive text messages via the same Inbox. With the new multi-purpose input on all Xbox 360 controllers, you can even use a Text Input Device (or TID - essentially a tiny handheld keyboard) to make the process even easier. Family Settings Parents can use the Family Settings feature to limit what can be sent and received in the Message Centre, as well as who can contact a younger gamer. Access massively multiplayer games MMOs come with their own subscription plan, so even if you're not a fully-fledged Xbox Live Gold member you can participate in this growing phenomenon. Silver Membership is the perfect introduction to the new Xbox Live and everything it has to offer. After all, more than two million members can't be wrong. check your info before you comment please! 93 -
green lantern 05.09.2006 09:57 ok i was hating on the 360 because i thought sony was gonna deliver this year but i guess i was wrong..... no rumble feature on the controllers?? whats the war games gonna be like?? no hdmi ports (oh i mean "port" because the 2 hdmi ports was bullsh!t)on the $499 20G console?? oh and that price tag isnt really wanting me to go out and buy that system.... i hear my gamestop calling me to buy a premium 360 with 2 games instead of a 20G ps3 hey i could buy a premium 360 with 4 games for the price of the 60G ps3!! e3 isnt over yet so sony might still show some good stuff but from what i seen and read about the sony press conference i dont really wanna buy a ps3 anymore.....and yeah they might have free online gaming but its up to the developer if the game charges you, not sony...... 94 -
Unregistered - green lantern 05.09.2006 10:47 oh and another thing...since kojima said that mgs4 for is possible on the 360 and he decides to port itif the 360 sells more than ps3 is in trouble because it loses a console seller...theres another thing most people dont know and sony fans bash it....halo used to be a ps2 title but then it became an xbox title and everyone knows how that sold....if u dont believe me about halo here it is http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/014/014552/vids_1.html...they had videos at an e3 for ps2 halo....so if sony loses thier exclusivs because they dont sell enough then the playstation brand is going to become a dreamcast but i doubt its gonna happen....like i said in my previous comment, if sony does deliver on thier promise because e3 isnt over yet, then ill get a ps3 but if not ill enjoy a new xbox360........ 95 -
YEAH THAT WAS AWESOMEUnregistered - Doom 05.09.2006 11:05 to all of you idiots who say you're gonna buy a 360 (which i'm sure %80 of you already have one), please go ahead and buy that pice of crap. HAHA! nobody gives a sh1t. good luck playing FF13, motorstorm, heavenly sword, lair, tekken6, vf5, and many more jaw dropping titles on your 360...OH WAIT! YOU CAN'T!! LOL!! regardless of what you morons say, sony will sell like hell 'cause deman will exceed the supply. price is no problem. any gamer (not XFLAMERS like you) knows what a masterpiece the PS3 is. buttheads!! 96 -
Unregistered - foss 05.09.2006 11:21 i'm rearlly dissapointed. i was waiting to see what sony's machine was capable of before making a decision between buying a 360 and a PS3. some of the video's arn't as good as i was expecting, and i'm rearlly dissapoined that the controlers have no vibration. now i'm gunna get a 360 - i'm not waiting 6 months for an overpriced console which is capable of the same things as 360 (except blue ray).......sigh........ 97 -
360 to be on top for awhileUnregistered - sdfsdf 05.09.2006 11:35 "Little Jimmy what do you want for Christmas?" "A PS3!!!!" "Well Jimmy, for the price of the PS3 you can get an Xbox 360 AND a Nintendo Wii" The only way Jimmy would pick the PS3 is if he rides the short bus. Blu Ray will be very weak by Christmas, and Sony will have (if they are lucky) a launch line up equal to that of the 360's launch. Xbox 360 will have better top tier games that will be equal to or better in graphics. This is now Microsofts war to lose. It will probably takes years for Sony to be on top of the market again. 98 -
OH MAN !!Unregistered - Doom 05.09.2006 11:59 looks like someone needs a hug! stop pretending, most of you have a 360 now and want to soothe yourselves. how on earth can someone be disappoited? heavenly sword and motorstorm screens are insane! lair, ff13, f1 are superb! and these titles are still under development. the controller is great and motion sensing is the future. it does not need extra stuff like 360 controller , just plug the cord and it is charged. besides, the E3 is about to begin and we'll see many more great ps3 titles soon. most of you are XBUGS in disguise. yeah, if i had a 360 , i would flame the ps3 like that. you say you're disappointed by sony but are happy with that crapbox360 and it's crappy games? this is called hypocrisy. ps3 will run GT5 1080p@60 frames what about your Weakbox? only 720p 30 frames at best and the games actually run at 20 frames now. the polls at other ps3 sites show that at least %80 of respondents are either extremely or very much satisfied with the ps3. stop talking crap and go play your weakbox 3sh1tty. it's days are numbered. 99 -
hey 97 fock off !!Unregistered - Doom 05.09.2006 12:08 we'll see XF@G! little jimmy has a ps2 and he won't be able to play the games i mentioned on the 3sh1tty. as we near the ps3 launch the sales of 3sh1tty will drop dramatically. it's sales is dropping as we speak. it's not considered a hot item anymore, you can find it everywhere on the shelves. sony will show much more killer demoes and trailers. i tell here and now, XBOX360 is doomed! 100 -
...Unregistered - Bflow 05.09.2006 12:16 Despite everyone opinion, the PS3 will still sell big. Personally, I like what they did with the controller. The rumble feature isn't all that important to me anyways. I just pictured playing fight night with the new controler. Being able to dodge punches using its new feature. Now that the cat is out of the bag, expect to see a lot more games announced since companies had to remain quiet by Sony's request. Plus there is no way Sony could have done much more at the show than what they did. It was only 2 hours. I mean they have to talk about the PS2 and the PSP plus introduce PS3 with game trailers(GTHD was waaaayyy too long) playable demoes, online features and so on. I mean they could of skipped talking about the other two but those platforms are amking them money. They're not going to abandoned them like M$ has done with Xbox. And did you notice how many games their studios are working on. And develpers still have six months left to polish up their games for launch. Plus, 3rd party companies has some pretty amazing stuff as well. Yeah it's expensive, but for some reason that just makes me want it more. It's funny how people want a lot more but want at the same priceline as previous generations. The lines will be long. Let the campers begin. 101 -
No #43 you got it all wrong.Unregistered - Unknown 05.09.2006 12:22 Sony is George Infamous!!! Bush, Microsoft is John Kerry, and Nintendo is the underdog Nadar!!!! 102 -
Dont you even darrrre try to turn rotten lemons into lemonade..sony f*cked up and you know. Its funny to see you still try and be loyal to a company who has out right played you...they talked allll that issshh about ms and mimicked them in every way even jacked the poor wii for their controller f**ck ps3...Unregistered - XBOX 360 WIPES THE FLOOR WITH PS3 AND ITS RUMBLE LESS CONTROLLER LOL IDIOTS!!!!! 05.09.2006 12:23 OOOOh my gooooosh, the ps3 fans tallllllked soooo omuch sh!t. Sayin we'll have blu g@y and blu toothless lol but yeah where's your rumble lol. Ken Kut f*ck said cofidently we dont see a reason to have two systems it only confuses the consumers....tsk tsk tsk what a pitty they copied us and totally sold out the ps3 fan base. I would never pay that much for a gaming console. I paid 399.99 for the xbox 360 premium package but look what you get i mean its over a hundred dollars worth of stuff with it plus its just a better system. The 360 controllers are wonderful, lol copying the wii was crazy but the price point is suicide.....its all a joke MS is was and always be the better choice....talk sh!t now sony fan twerps......lol I see even they are pissed off they waited all this time and hung to sonys everyword like fools. We had our 360's since last november and been enjoyin them when all they had we trumped up movies. and on top of that when their mommies and daddies go to the store for the ps3 they gonna see 499 and 599 and be like what the hell then the clerk is goin to explain and then offer them an instock 360 for cheaper even if they go with the 299 core package no harddrive and wired controller...its still cheaper and upgradabe lol sony suuuuuuckss. lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol 103 -
lolUnregistered - lol 05.09.2006 12:25 lol. psWii360. ps3 will lose the console war because noone wants this piece of cr:p. games don't look better than 360 games and final fantasy 113 ... wow whatta sequel. today 3 friends of mine bought a xbox 360 instead of waiting for the ps3. all i can say is: congratulations my friends. lolololol. this is really a piece of cr:p. 104 -
.....Unregistered - .... 05.09.2006 12:29 .... and it looks like some kind of paper-cutting-machine or trashcan or something. no real shape. 105 -
Unregistered - a bad flu 05.09.2006 12:32 GREAT POST #48, YOUR NO FANBOY 106 -
better controller picgreen lantern 05.09.2006 12:51 wwwwhhhhoooaaaa!!! i take back what i said about the ps3 and how i dont like it....i just saw the ps3 controller in better detail [http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/news/05/08/ps3_controller_screen001.jpg-you can zoom in too]and i think it looks awesome.....theres a button right under the start and select buttons and the l2/r2 buttons are shaped better for fps's but there are only 4 LED lights...i thought sony said that it supports up to 7 controllers??....wats up wit dat??....ok im not getting a 360 and im back wit the ps3....lol its only been 2 hours since i hated sony and wanted a 360 but now i want a ps3 all over again.....but i AM still getting a 360 tho..... 107 -
better controller picgreen lantern 05.09.2006 12:51 wwwwhhhhoooaaaa!!! i take back what i said about the ps3 and how i dont like it....i just saw the ps3 controller in better detail [http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/news/05/08/ps3_controller_screen001.jpg-you can zoom in too]and i think it looks awesome.....theres a button right under the start and select buttons and the l2/r2 buttons are shaped better for fps's but there are only 4 LED lights...i thought sony said that it supports up to 7 controllers??....wats up wit dat??....ok im not getting a 360 and im back wit the ps3....lol its only been 2 hours since i hated sony and wanted a 360 but now i want a ps3 all over again.....but i AM still getting a 360 tho..... 108 -
102 stfu technie assholeDante 05.09.2006 12:53 plz shutup... what is it? ur mad cuz ps3 wiped the floor out of the 360...hahahaha...you are feeling the pain right?? yes 360 already failed look at the ps3 games they all look next-gen and sony delieverd...plz go cry to ur mummy.. 109 -
360 FOOLSUnregistered - BlindMan 05.09.2006 13:18 Sony's games are still 6 months away from launch and already none of the 360 games look as good. now you 360fna scan come up here and say: "Sony lied, Sony is finished, MS has won," but the truth of the matter is that i don't give a sh*t i see reality for what it is, so if you 360 wanna ignore it go ahead besides i'm tired of you and of the 360. you were asking for ingames, Sony delivered, now get over with it, and stop saying your idiotic comments.HOORAH 110 -
WiiChaos73 05.09.2006 13:20 Is anybody else watching Nintendos presentation.....LOL Wow You know what these guys know how to bring it.... I seriously am way more impressed with Wii than I am with PS3. I will get a Wii for sure..... The graphics may not be ass kickin but the gameplay...and that controller kicks AZZ....... Sony..what the hell man.... I will still probably get a PS3..but it wont be at launch...and it may be 3 to 4 years from now..... But I got my 360....and the Wii will soon follow..... By the way I liked Nintendos poke at Sony "What you see is not always what you get... Playing is believing." It is true. Sony I have been soley with you since PS1 launch...but this time Im not impressed...you a day late and a dollar short this time. (or should I say $200.00 higher) please.... 111 -
I admit, i think Sony suck loads.Alexander 05.09.2006 13:40 LOL Funny how i got told the PS3 would cost less than $400 just tows days ago on this site. All the bull ive been told to look out for, they have showed nothing new, revolutionary or exciting really. The game demos were dull. I cannot see why anyone would still want to buy one unless they love the few exclusives the PS3 has left. I would just like to say: NOTHING I HAVE SAID ON THIS SIGHT HAS BEEN A LIE AND ALL MY SPECULATIONS HAVE BEEN TRUE. Like the dropping of dual outputs, which 'demos' werent real and the router functions to name a few. Good luck boys... Go green! "We deliver" [Halo: CE] 112 -
Unregistered - Twist96 05.09.2006 13:47 The Sony Conference was....underwhelming. However, I will congratualte Sony on not BS'ing anymore about the graphics. But... The games look the same as Xbox 360. There was even pop-up on that demo..can't remmeber the name, it was a first person game, and the guy was playing it...oh yea, Resistance of Man or something. Anyway, I saw POP-UP on the smoke efects in that. Second of all, the controller is a complete rip of Wii and 360. The middle button and the analoug triggers are straight from 360, and the motion sensitvity from Wii. And whats this? NO BLURAY PLAYBACK or DOUBLE HDMI FOR THE CHEAPER VERSION? LOL. You know they'll sell that seperatly to those people. Sony lies again! MGS4 trailer was cool, for people like me who know the story. I liked Raiden on MGS2, and now he looks great. Although the thing that annoyed me about that trailer was Snake's "suicide". I saw that coming a mile off, "There is one more thing I must do", with a small pistol in his hand. OH PLEASE. It wasn't a shock at all by the end. K, look, lets look past the hype. PS3 is no better than 360. Both are well built and well establised platform, and Wii is something else all together, for better or for worse. I'm not attacking the PS3 outright- I'm saying is UNDERWHELMING. 113 -
What The Fuc#?!?!?!kcdude 05.09.2006 13:50 What the Fuc# is wrong with you people? First of all, at least the PS3 isn't $700 or more, and why the hell do you guys sit here and call eachother names and sh$#. Seriously, we all apparently like gaming, and this is a PS3 website, so everybody here should like the PS3. I am tired of seeing all of you 360 a$$holes saying how much the PS3 sucks, it's becuase your jelous becuase you "Mommy" didn't wait until the PS3 and bought you a Xbox 3Shitty, ok...just go play your "Kameo" or whatever baby games you got and leave this site alone you jealous losers. 114 -
Unregistered - Twist96 05.09.2006 13:52 Oh, and I wonder if a certain LAWSUIT had anything to do with the rumble feature being missing? It's that, or Sony are being completly stupid. The rumble has been a standard for years, and of course Nintendo invented it first. 115 -
#113Unregistered - Neutral 05.09.2006 14:03 I agree with you to an extent that it is very silly for people to come on here and to insult and call each other names. But dont you see your just as bad by replying like you do and calling them names? The 360 and the PS3 are great machines but none are or will be perfect. Ive noticed quite a few posts on here just going through the usual motion of throwing around insults wether they are PS3 fans or 360 fans and I honestly think that these are just kids who come on here. You are right though that 360 fans who have no intention of getting a PS3 should be on here and it is rather stupid that they come and post insults. I on the other hand will have all 3 systems but I realise some cant afford to do that. So to them I say just look at whats games you can get on each system and make a decision on that basis and not what brand the console it is as non of them will be perfect. 116 -
600$ sound really cheap...Unregistered - ssj-04 05.09.2006 14:15 If you think about it... since the ps3 is a Godly Gaming Console and offer godly games... than 600$ is a steal... Wow this is cheap dude ... PS3 here we come.. .yah cant wait... till NOV... SOny is the God of Gaming WORLD... yah soo true... 117 -
whatUnregistered - dlow 05.09.2006 14:17 the ps3 sucks the games look the same grand turismo look exactly like pgr3 118 -
Unregistered - Nitz 05.09.2006 14:18 Well I'm getting the ps3 and the Wii, the 360 doesn't interest me, don't get me wrong the games do look good but I've been disappointed with Ms ever since last year I have no intentions of forcing myself to buy a console that I don't want. 119 -
Unregistered - r43r3r 05.09.2006 14:26 It isnt Gran Turismo 5 ... they are using the same engine as GT4 so its GT4 in HD :P But I want it!!!!!!!!!!!! 120 -
#117Unregistered - ssj-04 05.09.2006 14:30 your fawkface suk... ahha to say sony ps3 suk... you must be a moron... The only one that suk around here is you... and your 3sh1tty... you 3sh1tty game cant even compare to the PS3 Godly games.. WOW look at all the line up... cant wait cant wait... And only 600$... Now that is a steal for a GODLy system.. wit True HDMI... DOes M$ have HDMI? NO Does M$ have HD- movie Palyer? NO ANd what is the size of M$ HHD? 20 and compare it to 60gb... wow Blu-ray HD gaming and a 60gb hdd... that is a steal... M$ is 200$ less, so what.. it dosnt offer 60gb hdd, HD gaming, and A HD-movie player... Simple this is a Steal ... 600$ is pretty cheap if you think about it... IF you want sony to sell it for 400 like m$ than remove HD-Gaming, HD movie player BLU-ray, 60gb hdd... and there you could have the ps3 as the same price as M$... What do you expect? Peoples want PS3 to cost the same as the 360... its like wanting a Lexus to cost the same as a Toyota... PS3 cost more its because it offer more... DUH... NO brainer... 121 -
@ #89 Blaze33Unregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.09.2006 14:37 You talk major sh*t 1. The PS3 plays Blue Ray, which is better then DVD, but equal to HD-DVD (because 1080p no one uses there is no one with such a TV even not in a few years that this next gen console lives through). There is no winner yet of those two, I would rather have the choice with an add-on than pay more now for nothing 2. The compressing data thing has nothing to do with high quality what a dumb ass remark 3. The eye toy thing is less innovative as the Wii controller, which Sony tries to copy but it won't work out. You want to swing your guitar with guitar hero? Be my guest hahaha 4. The 360 controller is perfect in weight and shape, the boomering stupid controller that is prototype of Sony that's a da bomb ain't it? whoaohahaha 5. My XBOX360 isn't noisy. THe first (Hitachi drives) had some noise problems the newer Toshiba/Samsung drives act normal. So you know how much noise the PS3 will make even you haven't ever seen or touched a working model untill yet? That's really funny. Oh wait, you believe the marketing sh*t from Sony? RIght? Like the 2 HDMI ports the PS3 would have??? Now it has one and the only game it can deliver in 30 fps with 4096 colours will be Tetris (yes, 1080p on the PS3 won't be able to deliver more then 30 fps and not 60, the hardware GPU Nvidia 7900 not special designed like the 360 GPU isn't capable of producing more then 4096 colours on screen when in 1080p... hahaha) 6. Don't save you money, go and spend it right now on a 360, it's cheaper, it's better, it's now and not too late like Sony's dead horse 122 -
xbox 360 xbugz call it what ever you want,,,, but ps3 cant compete lol moronsUnregistered - xbox 360 05.09.2006 14:38 Look...you just dont get it. The xbox 360 made a nice machine and the games are shaping up nicely. Soooony has been running their pie holes a whoooole sh!t loud. Putting ms down and basically calling them stupid, but then turned around and did the same thing they critisized ms for doing, tell me, where is the logic in that? Then on top of that they have no rumble feature in their inferior controller and have the nerve to charge 599 plus tax a game and an extra controller, you gotta be fool to pay that when you can get the same thing with the 360. Blu ray is for hd tv's, but so is progressive scan. You'll be thrrrrowing your money aways and sony knows it they couldnt care less about you all they want is your money at least ms gave us a nice machine and it is upgradable where as the ps3 is not you'll have to buy the system over thats wack. Now you wanna talk about graphics, they'll be games on the ps3 that look nice but that price tag doesnt justify it. that's aweful. And they reason sony is feeling the heat is because the put ms for doing certain things and then copied them as well as nintendo, you can keep your blu ray its useless. what a bunch of ps suckers....i laugh at you thinking you'll get something better,Morons. 123 -
Unregistered - Joker 05.09.2006 14:43 Well If you guys want to watch what's going on at E3 you can watch G4 tv if you have dish or cable tv, the show starts at 6:00 p.m. today, as for the name calling I think the xbox fanboys should just leave. It's pretty pointless to come on a ps3 site and start all this foolishness over video games I already have enough more than enough for the ps3 since I've been working last year. 124 -
@ # 98 DoomUnregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.09.2006 14:49 Haha you still believe the Sony Marketinglies? That's real funny. Lets see what you say: "ps3 will run GT5 1080p@60 frames" No it won't. The CPU is about comparable to the 360 GPU. The 360 GPU is better then the PS3 GPU which is just a Nvidia 7900. The 360 GPU is designed specially for the 360. First Sony said: 2 x HDMI output in 1080p YEAH RIGHT Now they say 1 x HDMI output in 1080p YEAH RIGHT First: no one has a 1080p TV and the majority won't have one for the life cycle of these next gen consoles Second: the PS3 can only do 1080p with max 24 fps or 30 fps, 60 is impossible because of the hardwarerestrictions and datatransportation through the console. It simply can't be done. Furtheron, only 4096 colours will be on screen. SO ENJOY TETRIS IN 1080P @24 FPS IN 4096 COLOURS WHILE YOU HAVE NO 1080P TV The rest of the titles will be in 720p at most and maybe even 480p, because only Microsoft tells the developers to produce on 720p. Sony has not set those lines, a producer could make the game in 480p if he/she wants. There goes the great quality :) 360 is on top, 360 stays on top. Where are the great graphics from the pre rendered sh*t from last years E3 Sony? The motor thing is allright but not mind freaking great. The launch line up of the 360 is better then the games I see for the PS3 now. It is major dissapointing and the price of the machine even makes it less attractive then it already is. Leave this thing rotten while Sony delays and delays and go next gen now. Buy a 360 simple as that. I'm sorry for Sony fanboys but you'll learn in the future. 125 -
New words for disapoinmentUnregistered - Wise Gamer 05.09.2006 14:53 SONY PS3 126 -
$400 my ass!Unregistered - Wise Gamer 05.09.2006 14:56 JA ja ja $500 Ja ja ja JA $600 JA JA JA JA JA JA JA JA JA for same graphics JA JA JA JA JA JA JA JA JA JA JA JA JA Go Work Extra Hours 127 -
Unregistered - Xconcepts 05.09.2006 15:03 Don't get me wrong I am buyin a PS3, just not when it releases. I have a preorder but I will probably put it on ebay and buy another one a few months down the road. I already have the 360, its a great system. But Sony has screwed this round up. Like I will state below, I DON'T CARE ABOUT BLUERAY MOVIES, I'M GETTING THE PS3/360 FOR GAMES ONLY!!!! There and for the post above, how about this??? DOes M$ have HDMI? NO, [b]But how many of you have a HDMI connection on your TV? I bet maybe 25% of you do[/b] Does M$ have HD- movie Palyer? NO [b]like it has been said before, I want a PS3/360/Wii to play games no watch a F'n movie!!! I don't care about HD Movie player, besides being military I would just play normal DVD if I was to go over seas not HD or Blueray. And it still doesn't help if you don't have the HDMI capable TV[/b] ANd what is the size of M$ HHD? 20 and compare it to 60gb... wow [b]let me think why I need anything over a 20gb. Music-use an Ipod and USB it to the PS3/360, Downloaded video- only need it for a few days, erase it, it won't be to big anyways. Nope, can't think of one. The PS2's HD really did me some good by the way. [/b] Blu-ray HD gaming and a 60gb hdd... that is a steal... [b]360 HD looks good to me[/b] M$ is 200$ less, so what.. it dosnt offer 60gb hdd[b]don't need it[/b], HD gaming[b]has it[/b], and A HD-movie player[b]don't f'n want it!!![/b]... Simple this is a Steal ... 600$ is pretty cheap if you think about it...[b]I bet you if Sony would have offered a system without Blueray and the 20gb HD they would sell more than the other 2 they are releasing[/b] Peoples want PS3 to cost the same as the 360... its like wanting a Lexus to cost the same as a Toyota...[b]Some Toyota's cost the same as some Lexus's[/b] PS3 cost more its because it offer more... DUH... NO brainer...[b]more stuff most GAMERS don't want[/b] 128 -
Why?Unregistered - confused 05.09.2006 15:07 If Xbox360 is so good, then why do all the ex-boys come here to badmouth the PS3? Shouldn't they be playing their hunk of crap system instead? Sure, the pricetag of the PS3 is high, but you will get so much more for your money. I was actually going to buy a 360 until I found out I'd have to pay extra for a wireless connection to the Internet. Screw that, I'll wait and pay a little more to get better games (FF XIII, Lair, Resistance etc.) and a Blu Ray player! As far as the control goes, that's just a bonus! 129 -
@128Unregistered - Xconcepts 05.09.2006 15:23 Most of the remarks that bad mouth the PS3 and hype up the 360 are from 8 years old. I get on here cuz its the only site I can access at work and thats why I'm not at home playin it either. The xtra for the wireless connection isn't much, u don't need the 360 wireless adapter. I have the linksys wireless adapter I used with the original xbox. U can use anyone that has the lan plug maybe a USB one as well. That I don't know for sure. 130 -
#128Chaos73 05.09.2006 15:24 C'mon dude Xbugs...whatever you call them.....It doesnt matter. The 360 kicks ass bro....The Ps3 will probably kick ass to....but it doesnt kick enough ass to charge that kind of price. Really when you think about it...do you need all that Shiit.... And as far as wirelss internet goes.....you do know you are sacrificing a little in the way of quality for the ease of wireless don't you? Sure wirless is gr8...but you do lose a little in your signal/transmission. Damn if you dont have a network connection where you play...get off your lazy ass and run some cable... I did. Really people...Sony did not impress at all.....The room was quiet...everyone I think was let down.... I watched it live....Just like I did the Wii conference live....and there was way more applause and ecitment in the room today.... I think Sony just shot itself in the foot..... Is it a death wound....No Way not by any means.... but the bledding has started. 131 -
Unregistered - $70 05.09.2006 15:26 are the games really $70.00, damn. M$ is only 59.99 from 3rd parties and 49.99 from in house games. i thought my Sony would match that. i am not finding much good news in any of this. and some of you are arguing about games shown for PS3, saying that the 360 will not get...like assasins creed...when they are for both systems. can some one help me find some good in this (i need it)...i can't believe i am finding myself ready to get a 360 right now...which i can because they are in stores right now. 132 -
CALM DOWN PEOPLEUnregistered - BlindMan 05.09.2006 15:27 It's hilarious how these 360bugs just invaded this site yesterday, they didn't want to give the Sonyfans a chance to adire the console, i mean they were everywhere, now things are settling down a bit, because more PS3 fans have had time to watch the video and are starting to defend the PS3 from these 360bugs, quite frankly im tired of them. People look: The PS3 is only showing games 6 months away from launch with these beautiful graphics, i mean if you were waiting for what they showed last year, then you were lying to yourself, they never said once this is what you' will get, they said this is what they are aiming for, now that can mean another 4 years from now, but still it was good enough. The games are flowing like a stream on the PS3. Think about, what game does the 360 have that can match up to the PS3 games. GRAW: no way close, Oblivion: no way near with that choking habit, Gear of War: looks good but so does UT 2007 for the PS3 and consider that all PS3 games are being developed while Gears of War is a second gen 360 titles. Now i know that the price may have scare a few of you, but the true fans dont shake up. Now you can either go and buy a 360 or you can start gathering and saving money to pick up the PS3 at launch which i will surely do.It's simple, some of you are buying into them 360bugs coming, well good luck with that, but 2 years from now don't say that i didn't warn you. HOORAH 133 -
FOOLUnregistered - BlindMan 05.09.2006 15:29 Assassin's creed is a PS3 exclusive, read before you post nonsense, as of yesterday, the 360 is the one that needs exclusives not the PS3, and the list goes on and on and on. 134 -
Unregistered - twist96 05.09.2006 15:32 GRAND THEFT AUTO 4 EXCLUSIVE FOR 360 B!TCHES http://uk.gamespot.com/e3/e3story.html?sid=6149698 BWAHAHAHAHAAHAA where's your messiah now?! 135 -
to 89s0m1jamaican 05.09.2006 15:39 Not all the games on the 360 are region locked. The developer can choose not to use that feature if they wanted to, but they do for security reasons. 136 -
The ps3 will sell but buyers are ignorant and partial to labels and brands instead of looking at the facts, sony will rip them off making them think they got something for nothing when infact, they charge damn near a thousand dollars for a console because it plays betamax and has a 60gb hdd that isnt even on the same level and the 360's special designed hard drive. sony suuuucks.Unregistered - F**CK SONY 05.09.2006 15:42 No matter what you say or do, sony has spoken. they suck man let it go. its over. 360's on top ms did their homework and came up in the world. sony sucks yeah i said it, what??? The did the same thing they ms down for, thats lame. MS is the console king, sony is dead its over, there is a new sheriff intown. deal with, Punks... 137 -
To # 131Chaos73 05.09.2006 15:43 Dude go get a 360.... I did a few weeks back...and it won't dissapoint you. Listen I never owned the Xbox.... and I said I wouldnt get a 360....but my PS2 broke....My little boy was sad...and we knew Sony was a year out...so we went down to Sam's Club and bought a 360....came bundled with an extra wireless controller and the Charger kit...then we went over to Gamestop and bought like 4 Xbox games...and G.R.A.W. and Fight Night 3....and we both are rocking G.R.A.W. on Xbox live having a blast... Im 32 and my boy is 3. Best decission I have made in awhile. 138 -
xbox360rocks 05.09.2006 15:52 YAY GTA4 EXCLUSIVE TO XBOX360 HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH TO ALL YOU! LMAO GO MICROSOFT!! Sorry I had to rub it in, I'll be mature now, but um told ya so is now very very appropriate 139 -
Microsoft's Press Conference is making the price for the PS3 seem a lot higher than it did yesterday - CAN YOU SAY GTA 4 & HALO!Unregistered - Rock On! 05.09.2006 15:54 Sounds like GTA 4 is exclusive to Xbox 360: 12:21: Moore whips out Xbox 360 HD-DVD peripheral--it looks like a mini Xbox 360 with a black front. The name is "Xbox 360 Player" and it will be available this holiday season.12:22: "Major announcement about one of greatest franchsies of all time." Says its so exciting that he has to take his shirt off. Shows Halo 2 tatto--GRAND THEFT AUTO IV tatoo on other arm. Grand Theft Auto IV October 16 2007 to Xbox 360 ONLY. 12:25: "Microsoft and Rockstar have entered into an exclusive deal to privide episodic content via Xbox Live Marketplace." 12:26: Grand Theft Auto IV will be updated with regular fresh content, more details later. Crowd is stunned, gasps all around. Man, Microsoft is revealing things in their press conference that is starting to make the price of the PS3 seem really, really STEEEP! ...And they have'nt even got to Halo 3 yet! Yikes Sony is in T-R-O-U-B-L-E! 140 -
To everyoneUnregistered - Xconcepts 05.09.2006 15:56 So Xbox fanboys, back off. Nintendo fanboys, settle down. Playstation fanboys, shut up (borrowed from another poster) Buy 2 or all three of the systems or shut up. No one want to hear you say how much better a system is. Its about the games, not Movies or anything else. If you come here to be a fanboy of any system, get a life. 141 -
i dont think we gonna need the 60GB...Unregistered - blaze33 05.09.2006 15:58 first of all,im not a fanboy..im stating my opnion(i still didnt make my mind in which console im gonna get).... second of all.. i dont think ps3 need 60GB ...20GB is fine for me..im not gonna download HD videos in my ps3...why do i do that when i have already 100GB PC....and even if im gonna download HD videos....its like 200MB the maximum for an HD video(unless it was a HD movie)...and i heard the 499$ unit doesnt have WI-FI....who cares!!! ,im gonna connect my ps3 via ethernet cable just like my old good ps2... and lets not forget that there is still USB ports..and there a lot of stuff you can do with these ports... now..can someone tell any other problems ps3 have with the 499$ unit? i dont think there is any problems....therefore ps3 is still in the next-gen war...now it all depends on the games...if ps3 games are better..than ps3 wins...but if xbox360 are better..than xbox360 wins..so far xbox360 has more libary of games...but ps3 have better quality games(FF13,DMC4,GT5,MGS4...and many more)....but i heard many great xbox360 games are gonna be reveald in E3...i guess we just have to wait... 142 -
xbox360rocks 05.09.2006 15:59 Lol I am a fan of my xbox look what they give me? look what sony gives you...um yeah I thought so...and ya it does come to games and palease look at our games, their ROCKING! Oh ans GTA4, wheres ps3's Gta4? oh that's right... NOWHERE 143 -
Unregistered - Briggs 05.09.2006 15:59 Are you kidding me I don't care if GTA is exclusive to the 360 the game is always the same you do some missions, mini games, kill some people and you repeat the same crap after Vice City I just lost interest in GTA altogether it's a series I can do without. 144 -
oooh yeahhh oooooh yeahhhhh ooooo yeahhhhUnregistered - xbox 360 biaaaaaaaatch 05.09.2006 16:00 LOL MS is doin that damn thing man....sony bugs lol are just steamin with jealousy and envy...their precious little ps3 is no match for the 360...gta 4 lol for the 360, what do you punks have to say nowww huuhhhhh. No rumbel, high prices, no gta first this time, but wait, you'll have yet anotha mgs30 right okay. ps3 sucks ps3 sucks ps3 sucks ps3 sucks ps3 sucks ps3 sucks and you'll pay for it cause you suck, you suck, you suck, you suck, you suck, you suck. 145 -
live vs ps liveUnregistered - still up in the air 05.09.2006 16:01 while checking both out online services out...did anyone no that xbox live features are also accessable from your PC...why don't they advertise that? you can set up games, accept game invites, and check out what your friends are doing on live from your PC and other things as well for free... man i don't know...360 sure is sounding good now. i can't believe i may part from Sony but... 146 -
xbox360rocks 05.09.2006 16:02 Problem? NO HDMI...yeah that kinda screws with the promised 1080P for movies and games buddy, no wi-fi, no memory card reader, they're MAKING you buy the $600 one. They only put out the $500 to slap you in the face so you go "Ha I want the pimp PS3 I'll pay $600!!" Microsoft did the same thing, why would anyone want a core version with no hdd if the HDD is $100 147 -
xbox360rocks 05.09.2006 16:05 143 your just saying that, nice try. Funny how you all get FUll AUTO 2 and your like Hahahahah we get Full Auto 2 and we go "who cares" and you think were jealous, only problem is Full auto really does SUCK and Gta 4 will be awesome. From the time PS3 was announced your all like, well we have GTA, so what now? Uh no now we have GTA 148 -
gta 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Unregistered - xbox fan boy....... 05.09.2006 16:09 amazing simply amazing, we get gta4 one of the hottest franchises and you say its not important and reallly try to actually downplay it. Do you know how many systems this game will sell because it is gta. Well you should it sold how many ps2's but now since ms got it right this time its not important. what a bunch of morons ps fans are. xbox 360 is the shiznit and before you go runnin ya face just know that i am a ps2 fanatic yes thats right i looooove my ps2 still have my first one from 2000 goin strong never had a problem with it, gta sa was and is my favorite. But the ps3 haaa what a joke, man my 360 and i get along fine..no need for a wii/360 rip off when i have the real thing. Yeah, check this out. You know ms is gaining alooot of software support and pretty much the games you'll see wont be just for the ps3 they'll have 360 versions to many as to where they may just give the ports to the ps3. open your eyes people its over for sony. Lets give credit where credit is due. Ms has obtained gta 4 thats a big f**kin deal. If it had gone the other way around you'd throw it in our faces and we'd feel it. Take it like man, chump. 360 baby....all the way 149 -
to 141Unregistered - xbox/ps 05.09.2006 16:10 well, with the 360 you can connect to your pc and stream all your vids to your computer through live and store them there. plus your saved games. no brainer for me. M$ Pc and 360. you get the best of both worlds. no matter if you are sony or xbox...you have to love what M$ has done. they have made it standard for Hard drives in consoles and they started high definition really with the first xbox. they made it a standard for consoles to be online. everyone is following the leader...thanks for changing the gaming world M$. o and never lying to me too. that is always nice. 150 -
#147Unregistered - Briggs 05.09.2006 16:12 Whatever kid keep telling yourself that, I've played enough GTA, like I said I could care less if it ends up on the 360 the only thing GTA is going to do is the same old stuff the first three games did so keep telling yourself that your getting something new, I'll get the ps3 and the Wii. 151 -
shadowrun/halo3Unregistered - are you kidding 05.09.2006 16:14 halo3, shadowrun, too human, bio shock, assasins creed, GTA,...the list for the 360 keeps growing. what else are they going to announce. man, i don't know guys...looks like i may be heading to the 360 camp also. 152 -
xbox360rocks 05.09.2006 16:15 Um sorry boys, lol peter moore is a jackass, rockstar announced to gamespot in a e-mail that GTA4 is multi platform. 153 -
Just cant be a man about it huhUnregistered - lol 05.09.2006 16:16 okay you say that but like i said if it was for the ps3 you'd be singin a different song you know it and everyone else who's readin this know as well. i've played all the one's for the ps2 and i dont get tired of it. the franchise is hot. if it was on ps3 you'd be excited stop frontin....damn i know you a sony freak but you can just be a man for two seconds and acknowledge that this is exciting, just think it this was ps3 this would be great but since its not you think its what ever....tru idiot. 154 -
Unregistered - Zeek 05.09.2006 16:17 Well Ms has no games I'm interested in so why should I force myself to buy a console that I don't want, Sony already confirmed that they're will be playable games on the floor and the Nintendo said they're will be Wii games so I can do without an 360. 155 -
GTA IV no longer a PS3 exclusive WHOOPSUnregistered - WOOHOO 05.09.2006 16:19 Well to be the bearer of bad news sorry sony fanboys your pride and joy GTA IV will no longer be an exclusive just announced it will launch with PS3 and Xbox 360 On Oct. 16 damn well MS is getting the steam roller ready C'mon Sony what are you doing how can you allow MS to get access to our exclusives Shiiiii Well i am going to have to think about my choice now long and hard PS3 or 360. NO this sucks it was PS3 all the way until this and not up to my expectations, maybe i expected to much oh well time to ponder a pricey investment. 156 -
Play with your WiiUnregistered - Wii 05.09.2006 16:20 Wii has the same, some slightly higher, stats as the first xbox...i think i will pass. it is PS3 or 360 for me. with hugh freakn list of 360 games that keep getting announced, may be 360 for me. Did someone say shadowrun...are you kidding me. can't tell you how long i have waited for that game. love the NES and the pin and paper game. cyber punk baby!!!! 157 -
Unregistered - y 05.09.2006 16:24 gta4 not a 360 exclusive it is on both ps3 and 360 check ign.com 158 -
xboxUnregistered - xbox 05.09.2006 16:24 no one's forcing you to do anything, just like i said im not gettin a ps3 but i got a 360 and i'll have the wii as well, i mean i can agree with you on that. my thing with sony is they are hypocrits and are sneaky and i dont like them. they put down ms and did the same thing they did, morons. the wii i feel is going to be a nice system im lookin forward to it and i bet it wont cost no 599 plus a controller and a games all at damn near a thousand dollars. i refuse to be ripped off, yeah they'll have blu ray but damn its just not worth. i much rather have my custom soundtrack for everygame, xbox live, hidef graphics, fully functional controller that rumbles, that turns my xbox on and off and opens and closes the trays, and my 20gb harddrive thats more than enough. and looking forward to so many new games i mean, sony is tryyyying to imiate the 360 and wii, you can have imitations but it only leads to limitations you'll see. so go on do what you must but its 360 all the way for me...and gta 4 exclusive or not im glad the the 360 is gettin it, its still a big deal. 159 -
shadowrunUnregistered - shadowrun 05.09.2006 16:25 SHADOWRUN...on the 360? wow! when did this happen. man! i forgot M$ owns FASA. i didn't think about that. 160 -
Unregistered - Yardie 05.09.2006 16:25 Wait a minute it's going to be Muliti-platform, I swear I hate Sony/Xbox fanboys you guys were making a big deal over nothing and Briggs be a real man GTA is a good game don't be a sad sap just because you don't like GTA everyone GTA is a good game and to the 360 fanboys nice way of being jerks for just a few minutes , Developers have to go down the middle with next-gen games I swear this is why I don't come on this site anymore. 161 -
to 159, listen to 156Unregistered - Wii guy 05.09.2006 16:28 he is right...ign uncovered the Wii...it is only slightly better than the regular xbox...so if you have a xbox...you have a Wii without the fancy controller but with Live. PS3 or 360 for me too. 162 -
Unregistered - twist96 05.09.2006 16:30 Well, it looks like it's multiplatform afterall. Ah well. 360 still gets it. 360 is worth the investment. We also get Table Tennis! :-D I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS, HOWEVER: 1) Why didn't Sony mention it in their conference? 2) Are Rockstar going to issue the episodic content on PSNP as well? How will it tranfser from XB live. 163 -
Unregistered - bam bam remy 05.09.2006 16:32 a system dont have to have all the high specs to make great games, nintendo usually have nice developers and plus the original xbox had nice graphics and if the people over at nintendo higher nice talent they can make those games look steller, and the same goes for the 360 or ps3 they can have the hight tech but if they lack the talent then what does it all mean. But sixhundred bucks for a console i dont give a damn what it has or how many grill cheeses you can make i dont want it. period...the end. 164 -
xbox360rocks 05.09.2006 16:33 Cause If Sony said anything about that game being multi-platform in their conference they would of gotten booed, duh and maybe they didn't know! 165 -
Rainbowsix..vegasUnregistered - Wii guy 05.09.2006 16:34 good point 163. can any one tell me if that Rainbowsix vegas game is a 360 exclusive? have you guys seen the trailor? man! 166 -
^^^^^Unregistered - NOPE 05.09.2006 16:37 NO the downloadable content is exclusive to 360. But the game will be on both systems. I have a feeling the war is no longer horsepower now its also the online aspect because now games can be upgraded with a download expect sony and ms to battle each other for online exclusives from now on. This could be better for the two by allowing exclusive upgrades to each respective system is genius everyone can have the same game fundamentally, but if you own a PS3 that same game will be different from the 360 online versions and the downloadable content also will add a new dimension to owning a 360 or PS3. Think about it your friend owns 360 and you own PS3 and he keeps going on about a game and you tell him you have it and you love this part of the game and he stops with a dumb look on his face as he is confused, then you explain and show him and then you find out his game is different from yours. More money for sony and ms which would then force former enemies to future allies. Food for thought 167 -
xbox360rocks 05.09.2006 16:38 It's total CGI though...but multi-platform 168 -
READ IF FAN OR OWNERAlexander 05.09.2006 16:41 HALO 3 TRAILER AVAILABLE IN HIGH-DEF (free) ON MARKETPLACE ...as well as sh!t loads fo other stuff, including Gears if War... ...or head to bungie.net for halo trailer 169 -
Unregistered - GEve 05.09.2006 16:44 GTA4 on both system but with elcusive xblox live content. 170 -
What i can't hear ya'llUnregistered - BlindMan 05.09.2006 17:06 Go watch that HALO 3 Trailer instead of coming here and bragging about GTA4 being exclusively for the 360, you fools, i knew Rockstar wouldn't let the mighty PS3 down, imbeciles let me say it clearly, Rockstar just annouced that GTA4 will be release on both consoles at the same time. I say that it's fair deal, now we will see which console will buy more GTA4. By the way for all of you saying that the Wii conference is btter than the PS3 need to be slapped the sh*t of of. Common, yes MS is fighting harder than enough, so is Sony, but the Wii is just not there, common man next gen is PS3 and the 360, hands down to both consoles. Me i prefer the PS3 becuase in the long run we will oversell the 360, period, now the Wii i'd be surprised if you buy that xbox 1.5 and sell i later, the thing is whack, mark my words gamers 1st Sony as usual 2nd Microsoft 3rd Nintendo again Taht is not the way to go when you have two powerful console like that. Nintendo might be dying soon. 171 -
HALO 3 LOOKS 10000000000 TIMES BETTER than Metal Gear and it is in real time!Unregistered - Rock On 05.09.2006 17:09 To quote Bungie: We won't ruin the content of our short presentation by describing it frame by frame, but we will note that everything you're seeing here is being rendered in real-time on the Xbox 360, using the current version of our Halo 3 game engine. The HDR lighting, self-shadowing, GPU-run particle system and many other effects should make it intact (and more) to our final game. "The trailer was built to have minimum impact on the development process" We demonstrated the real-time nature of the demo after the press conference (thanks to our friends at Pioneer with awesome audio-video assistance) to a small group of reporters, so we'll wait and see what their judgment on the presentation was, but you should feel free to make your own. The trailer was built to have minimum impact on the development process, and while it required long hours and hard work from many, many Bungie staffers, it utilizes real-game assets, fiction and locations from parts of the "real" game. ...Seriously, the price for the PS3 is WAAAAY to high after seeing the Halo 3 demo and eventhough I was excited when Sony revealed their launch yesterday - I am even more excited to be playing the awesome games on the 360 come November 2006! Personally, I think that Microsoft is just getting started at this years E3 and Sony is in way over their heads this time! 172 -
Unregistered - WHAT 05.09.2006 17:14 WHAT! that halo trailer aint sh!t. That is not more impressive than Mgs4. 173 -
imbecilesUnregistered - BlindMan 05.09.2006 17:36 MSG4 is not only about graphics, but the story, the music, the theme, you can never understand that, Ok now Halo has made it's appearance, what else has the 360 got? well let me guess, nothing, it's wrap, i feel sorry for all the 360fans who bragging yesterday about Sony dying, the EMPIRE is forever strong and growing stronger, live with it. 174 -
Unregistered - Chris 05.09.2006 17:47 I totally agree with you there the empire is stronger than it's ever been and do the xbox owner's no why that is? because sony fanboy's are not a buch of sad elite like yourselves and sony is about gamming , not bragging about 1 game and how good it is aka halo franchise! 175 -
this is so amusingUnregistered - Neutral 05.09.2006 17:58 have heard yourselves #173, #174? your so sad just like these ones who also worship MS and xbox. The EMPIRE is so strong lol you really are a bunch of kids arent you! How old are you? OK anyone with a ounce of maturity tell me is this sad or what? People really do worship these companies. Well kids anyway. 176 -
GUnregistered - G 05.09.2006 18:01 how does ms have nothing? this is probably the reason why you and many others keep riding on the sony bandwagon. to give you a head start, why don't you try: RPG: Fable 2, Shadowrun, Oblivion, Mass Effect, Enchant Arms, Phantasy Star, Blu Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Jade Empire 2 ACTION: Lost Planet, Halo 3, Saint Row, Nighty Nine Nights, Crackdown, Dead Rising, Alan Wake, Chrome Hounds, GRAW, 2 Untitled Rockstar Games, Huxley, Ninja Gaiden 2, FEAR RACING/FLIGHT: PGR, Forza 2, Over G, GTR, Moto GP Others: Naruto, Marvel MMO, Banjo-Kazooie 3, Kameo, Zegapain - These are some of the games that will NEVER come out on the PS3. can't really say MS has nothing. knock xbox out for not having as many xbox only games, but it's different this time around. 177 -
Remember the Xbox HD-Dvd Add on...Unregistered - ssj-04 05.09.2006 18:01 Well ... the price had been set... at 250$ for the HD-DVD add on... ahhaha... come to think about 3sh1tty with the HD-dvd player... (which is weaker than the blu-ray drive) will cost ... more than 650$ and that is with 20gb hdd only ahhaha ahahha NOW You tell me whom is the rip off... hahah Like i said b4 PS3 is a steal... Blu-ray Hi-def games, and 60gb hdd for 600$... compare to M$ 20gb hdd when add on HD-DVD come out to be more than 650... ahahha ANd yah i seen the Halo 3 trailer , IM not impress... Lair look 10x better than that cartoon looka like enviorment... ahha Guess what... that is just CGI that halo 3 trialer dont get your hope up kids.. ahha you know it will turn out crape in game play ahhaha... 178 -
@ # 173 &174Unregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.09.2006 18:19 Well it's funny that you say it this way, because where are the Sony fanboys that were bragging over fake hardware details the last months that Sony wrap marketing put up? 2 x HDMI - it became one on the 600 Euro expensive version and non on the 'cheap' 500 Euro one 2 x 1080p output 60 FPS - in ones dreams: it's 1 x 1080p 24 FPS with 4096 colors at max. It's nothing more then a marketing tool, there will be no respectable game on this rate and resolution. It will be 480p/720p The pre-rendered stuff that we saw on E3 2005, where has that stuff go? Seen it nowhere anymore on this E3. Fanboys were slapping with nothing against 360 So empire strong as ever. I think you fool yourselfs. MSG4 is all about music, story blabla. Come on, those kind of games are on and will appear on the 360 also. Sony has become the dinosaurus of Console land. Like Sega was big some day, Sony has been up till now. Time has come to crown the new king which is en will be the XBOX 179 -
Unregistered - diana 05.09.2006 18:51 mgs4 looks better than halo3. i could now say the xbots get only cgi. but i am not a bastard like an xbot. halo3 looks nice, but you realy dont know if its real time. to me msg4 looks better, this game is ingenious. a must buy game !!!! i cant wait for the ps3 180 -
#179Unregistered - Neutral 05.09.2006 19:00 Yes Mgs4 does look nice but just though Id say halo 3 is real time. If you read the press release it says this --- "we will note that everything you're seeing here is being rendered in real-time on the Xbox 360, using the current version of our Halo 3 game engine. The HDR lighting, self-shadowing, GPU-run particle system and many other effects should make it intact (and more) to our final game." I think alot of these games on both the 360 are really looking really good. 181 -
#180Unregistered - Neutral 05.09.2006 19:01 Sorry I meant to say all these games that are on 360 and PS3 are looking really good. 182 -
former questionmark 05.09.2006 19:31 they also said that halo 3 would be a trailer from the get go. didn't try to pass it off as anything else. 183 -
Halo 3 TrailerUnregistered - Josh 05.09.2006 19:33 Read up on things before you make claims. The Halo 3 trailer is not CGI. It is realtime produced on an Xbox 360 console. They expect the graphics to improve slightly before release as they get more familiar with programming on the console. 184 -
PS3 for Christmas?Unregistered - g_CodeMonkey 05.09.2006 19:41 Here's the big scenario: "Timmy, what do you want for Christmas?" "PS3" "How much does that cost?" "$599 for the 60gb version, $499 for the smaller version" (Mom gasps, spews coffee from her nose) "NO!!!!!" -Timmy cries, Mom swears she won't do it. Buys 360 or Wii instead. Seriously, I'm a parent (and current 360 owner, but WILL buy a PS3 if it is THAT much better--so far, not yet)-- if my kid asked for a $500 Christmas present, there's no way. That said, it doesn't necessarily mean they'll jump for the 360 either. The Wii is looking fairly intriguing with the controller. Imagine using a lightsaber with that thing!!! The 360 is sweet--I'm very satisfied, but I'm not a FF12 fan. Look for M$ to drop the price close to the holidays and Sony to do an emergency price drop in the spring--they'll sell out what they can, but there are only so many early adopters. I'm not dying for next-gen DVD, be it HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. Its just not as large a leap as from VHS to DVD. The 360 has some sweet games (IMHO) and I enjoy it (we call it "gaming goodness" in my house), but they need to get some more exclusives (I can't wait for Gears of War and Over-G). Sony has some pretty imaginative exclusives, but nothing that screams for me to spend that much. I do understand a lot of you love FF and the other exclusives. To you, enjoy your PS3. If they ever stop making Madden for the 360, I'm there. The consumers ultimately win, as the competition will force price drops and better options for all. 185 -
Xbox=childishUnregistered - xbox blows 05.09.2006 19:45 I wonder if they will be chanting xbox is the childish console this time round, seens parents cant really afford it for there kids hahahahah xbox=childish how funny is that! 186 -
AboveUnregistered - Josh 05.09.2006 19:47 I'm glad you're mature. 187 -
Unregistered - haha 05.09.2006 19:50 I'm a Sonyfan and i like to say that i am ready to ditch the ps3 and go buy me a 360, but first i'de like some Xboxf@g to win me over into buying one, and the only way to do that is by sucking my balls ;) PS..........waiting 4 U 188 -
lolUnregistered - lol 05.09.2006 19:59 I was gonna say u must have a que a mile long bu there aren't that many xboxers ahhahaha! 189 -
Unregistered - you know 05.09.2006 20:07 Sony is gonna sell 200 million this time and xbox will sell 40 million if there lucky so ps3 wins agin yes S*O*N*Y* R*U*L*E, xbox 360 is playstation 3s b*tch! 190 -
SONY SUUUUUUCKSUnregistered - SONY SUCCCCKS 05.09.2006 20:23 189 how the hell do you know that. 360 will outsell sony plain and simple, dont get mad cause sony screwed you guys over by copying ms and nintendo. they lied to you guys and to the world and then charged you sixhundred dollars plus tax, and several expensive games, rumbless controllers, and a few accessories for it. dumb @sses. lol you guys got two systems like us and yours isnt even flexible damn...talkin about gettin screwed. 191 -
zzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzUnregistered - zzzzZZZZZzzzzz 05.09.2006 20:28 zzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzzzZZZZzzzZZZzzzzZZZZZZZZzzzzzZZZZz ... end of sonys conference. never thought sony will suck so much .. but..... 192 -
..Unregistered - boi 05.09.2006 20:30 not a single game that looks interesting at sonys conference. so what are you fanboys waiting for??? mgs4???? wow! 193 -
Unregistered - RUMBLESS CONTROLLER 05.09.2006 20:42 MANNN These ps3 jerks dont stop lol. its like sony stomps them and trashes them around and they just keep coming. Man saving face after being spit in it is one thing, but damn enough is enough give it up guys come on. Just go get your over hyped over priced 360/wii wanna be with no rumbel dual shockless too that leans and be done with it. Then when you get it, just slap the sh!t out of yourself for thinking that the graphics or anything else in that trash will exceed the mighty mighty 360. Sony has really really bent you over gooood. Just take it like a man and know sony is over...and the 360 is the greatest. It shook up the world, its the baddest meanest lean green gaming machine.. 360!!!!!!!!!!!!! ps3 suuuuucksssssss 194 -
loolUnregistered - lol 05.09.2006 20:53 www.1up.com they say that gears of war in-game demo looks like ps3 killzone 2 cgi. hehe i'm not surprised coz i know what the better system is. xbox 360 forever. sony will go down with it's sidewinder-styled co:ktroller. psWii360 195 -
GGGUnregistered - GGG 05.09.2006 21:00 Want killzone graphics? but in realtime? 3 words: GEARS OF WAR http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3150588 "which 1UP editors are describing as "looks f*cking awesome on the screen." Following the trailer, we've got the famous CliffyB coming onto the stage and he's actually playing the game up on the stage, kicking down doors and running around as a plane overhead drops a bomb that rocks the environment. Sam Kennedy is freaking out while CliffyB shows off the game, describing it as "it's like that killzone trailer but in realtime" and the best game he's seen on next-generation hardware yet." 196 -
JibUnregistered - Jib 05.09.2006 21:08 i would love to see killzone in realtime. and playable. 197 -
ONLY BLACK?Unregistered - yabbie 05.09.2006 21:13 is it only going to be the black one? cos i really wanted the silver one ??? 198 -
Unregistered - 360 KING 05.09.2006 21:21 have they found how to get all the guts of the ps3 into the cases yet, and if they did the black one doesnt appeal i like the silver one alot better, the black looks weird to me. Man they should have kept the boomerang controller the dual shockless three is just a bad deal. 199 -
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DarkLegacy 05.09.2006 22:40 Sony s)-(itted on everyone, not just its fanbase, but as in every gamer in general. NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS, there conference showing was down right terrible. The facts speak for itself. -They announce a PS3 that was totally stripped down from what they had originally planned in 2 versions. After critizing Microsoft for doing the 2 Unit strat with there Xbox 360, they do the same exact thing. WTF is that.... - There secret is a controller that is modeled exactly as there previous models. Just with some Nintendo Wii & Xbox 360 ideas thrown into it, then, on top of that, its a spin off of the classic Siderwinder pro pad on the PC. wow *claps*, way to go. I was really impressed with that *sarcasm*. I would rather have a rumble feature than a gimped sensor anyday. All it does is tilt really. Will have very limited support for many games. - A Majority of there titles were subpar, pre rendered, & CGI. Ok, they did have some damn good things. I thought Heavenly Sword & FFXII looked great. The MGS4 trailer was more of the same. The EA showing was a bucket of Grade A BS. EA ALWAYS does that, then when the titles comes, you'll be like WTF happened? This is the norm for them. Fight Night Round 3 was the first title I can say I was very imrpessed with detail wise. There other sports franchises bite the big one so far. Everything else did not look so great. GT HD was a joke. The only thing it was is a demostration of the effectivness of the upscaling ablity. A GT game on an old graphics engine running at 1080, & there was slowdown frame droppages, ouch. The same can be said with there game Genji 2. Did you see the slowdown in that game, Holy &$*#. No, I could tell the difference when the game was doing it cus of a certain ablity & when it actually LAGGED. You could tell about the incridble amount of silence after the demostration. The attendies were more like errrr....? - The Price... heh. Well, you wanted a BD Drive, well, you got it, & now, you'll pay for it XD. I am quite pissed with the price to. It will feel like the early 90's again when I dropped $599 on a damn Neo Geo! For the Gamers sake, I really hope the BD Drive delivers WELL BEYOND what a the Xbox 360 can do. i will be damn f***ing pissed if game that use the Media show little to no difference at all compared to what the Xbox 360 using DVD 9's can do. It will feel like I spent $200 more for a piece of s**t that I don't need. I don't want to watch movies on the damn PS3 lol. I want it to GAME. You can see it all over the Sony Forums. They are way more pissed than I am about the price. If the PS2 is a sign of what Sony can do, I wan't to see double that just to justify the price. Although I doubt that will happen cus the Nintendo Wii & Xbox 360 camps are looking VERY GOOD. Doubt them if you may, but there conferences spoke for themselfs. Both pretty much crushed what Sony showed. Sony better get back on track, cus that grip & dominance they once had isn't really shining as much as it once did. 202 -
WOWUnregistered - monlith 05.09.2006 23:01 WOW guys look at this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ rite above me hey xbox crzp what do u want no ones cares what u say here this is our site ur not going to convert us to crap idiots that want to can only do that just go away fan boy flammers you guys are so much xboxs D!ck you need to take a breather and come here dont forget to get the spluge out your eye!!! 203 -
ID HATE TO SEE THE PRICE OF THE NEXT CONCOLE {mabe ill tread it in for a new car}Unregistered - MM 05.09.2006 23:01 little kids every are going to be crying because santa cant afford a ps3 and it looks like sony cant afford a rumble feature 204 -
waitUnregistered - monlith 05.09.2006 23:03 wait to #200 not 201 205 -
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former questionmark 05.09.2006 23:32 has anyone seen actual confirmation on the feature stripping of the base model? the article said it appeared to be true. i've been at work and haven't seen actual conference footage. 207 -
sony fanboyz cant argue, lolSir Nathaniel 05.09.2006 23:48 Isn't it hilarious that wenever sony fanboys try to argue, they NEVER have evidence to back their arguments? lol 208 -
correction to my previous postSir Nathaniel 05.09.2006 23:51 I meant arguments regarding tech specs 209 -
dont get me wrongSir Nathaniel 05.09.2006 23:54 the ps3 is indeed a powerful system, but the 360 has been proven more powerful. 210 -
What do you guys have to say now.Unregistered - badkolo 05.09.2006 23:55 You cant make any excuses now, sony's show simply stunk, 2 games looked good, Heavenly sword and I dont even remember the other. They ripped nintendo but hey at least its something. The games looked so so. And today MS blew everyone else out the water, it couldve been better but as it was it was 100 times better then sony's showing. And for 600 bucks for the premium ps3 you can keep it, cause ill be playing the hits on my 360 while you guys ponder if thats out of your price range or not when for 200 less you could be playing beeter games on the 360. say what you want but as it stands sony flopped and thats not just my opinion ITS MANY PEOPLES OPINIONS, LOOK AT ALL THE FORUMS, SONY MESSED UP.. 211 -
PS3 conferenceUnregistered - Omini 05.10.2006 00:51 I have to agree and say that the PS3 conference sucked. Nothing to get excited about. Honestly, the Wii presentation actually has me wanting one. Halo 3 and GOW were just amazing....real time. PS3 was more of a let down cause it didn't rise to the hype. Nice don't get me wrong, but the hefty price, immitation strategy and control, ok games, didn't impress. I think the Tekken trailor was the worst of all. You can't tell me that it didn't look like a xbox1 title. MGS4 was aiight....Raiden was tight though. Sorry, but MS brought the big guns and Wii was just amazing. It shows graphics aren't everything, but when there is so much hype about the 1080p and the best graphics ever.....under delivering just kills it. 212 -
360Unregistered - sony fagass 05.10.2006 01:28 sony sucks big time the 360 rules and will win the wars long live the king xbox 213 -
Unregistered - OneLiveCell 05.10.2006 01:53 you all are complete idiots, the xbox fanboys are the worse... dont you have games to play on your 360? o im sorry, i forgot that halo 3 is the only excellent and worthful game of MS, all the rest are pathetic and useless... the ps3 will succeed even if its 600dls, i can afford it with a job, why most of you just trash the price? are you that lazy? i asume you are becasue everyone of us is not poor, we can afford games... but you are all the typical american lazy fats that want everything at the one dollar store.... isnt that what a hardcore gamer is all about? trying and working for the best experience yet, at the end, you get what you pay for, a bad@ss console with all the hi-tech things and plus a library of true excellent games, that only sony can bring to you, sure call sony hype masters... but they are also masters at bringing fun and fresh experiences for gamers, have you already forgot the original MGS, final fantasy 7, gran turismo, saga frontier, chrono trigger.... seriously people you are so immature.... and all the rest of you pusssies that cant get into your mind that the demos were actually realtime (except the concept ones that sony mentioned) youre just in denial, they ARE REALTIME, even if you say theyre not, they are, YOUR WORDS CANT CHANGE WHAT WE WILL PLAY FOR THE NEXT 5-6 YEARS... and for the record i dont hate the xbox360, i just think MS is plain stupid, the only thing that is worth buying it is halo 3, like the xbox before it, halo and halo 2.... three games... only those are worth playing the rest can blast off the map.... 214 -
former questionmark 05.10.2006 02:15 you mean the metal gear that was on the nes? it's funny how halo is the only good game on the system. let's see. all 3 splinter cells, jade empire, fable, star wars knights 1 and 2, elder scrolls 3, ghost recons, indigo prophecy, ect. halo 3 the only good game. splinter cell: double agent, too human, mass effect, lost odyssee, fable 2, oblivion, graw, fight night r3, resident evil 5, alone in the dark, f.e.a.r. (with updates exclusively for 360),marvel mmo, huxley, apb, jade empire 2, gears of war, alan wake, rainbow six: vegas, soul calibur 360, and who knows how many more unannounced. now granted, you might not like these, but that doesn't mean they suck. just means YOU don't like them. 215 -
Unregistered - anna 05.10.2006 03:09 xbox360 sucks. and xbots sucks too. they must be very envy, hahahaaaa ps3 rocks !!! 216 -
Unregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.10.2006 03:53 If there would be anything Sony fanboys could be proud off, XBOX gamers would envy them. But in this case, I just think it's the other way around, everyone is drewling on: Gears of War (see the pre rendered sh*t of Killzone 2, but then in REAL TIME) Halo 3 (complete thing is running in real time on 360 hardware) Fable 2 Viva Pinata Splinter Cell and more of the 160 games that will be available by the holiday season. When Sony only has it's hardware up when they don't delay again around 2007 which almost should be the next next gen, 360 delivered at least a year before their launch, and probably with all the delays almost 1,5 year. Sony just had their marketingbull up to high and this time it'll cost them gamers. Gamers that change to 360. For sure with GTA4 from day one being on the 360 and having exclusive downloadable content. Just eat that. The largest franchise for the PS3 is no longer exclusive guys. Sony will take their losses 217 -
get real!Unregistered - ahhaha 05.10.2006 04:56 Well do you remember the PS2 graphics for grand turismo 4? Well there gonna be 100 times more deatailed than that for grand turismo 5 and a lot more deatailed than gt hd, so do us a ll a favour and be quiet, because your just slavouring, motorstorm looks to be as everybit as good as it should be so i dunno how xbox can compete with that with there crappy controller and there unorigional design for a console. 160 games big deal, it doesn't mean half ofg them are any good, sony has about 30 killer apps coming out, what do microsoft have 2 games gears of war and a very cgi cartoonish halo trailer. 218 -
Unregistered - Chris 05.10.2006 05:05 Games that beat all of the 360s games on the spot that playstation 3 are as follows: MGS4 ( For those xbox owners who are blind that's Metal Gear Solid 4, and that's 70% of them) Motorstorm, Grand Turismo 5, Devil May Cry 4, Intestellar Marrines, Warcraft, Killzone 2, Killing day Heavingly Sowrd, Tekken 6, Formula 1 and the list goes on. Here's a thought PS3s live service will be up and running eventually and unlockable content in GTA4 will only be available on the PS3 because it's way better than that big green hunk of sh*t! 219 -
newsUnregistered - noob 05.10.2006 05:13 why do you still want a ps3? every site on the god damn web says that 360 has more power and that the upcoming lineup ist the best. so tell me ... WHY? is it just because you've said that ps3 will be the king? okay, we forgive! now go and buy a 360 and enjoy playing next gen demos like lost planet, test drive, top spin2, fifa wm, burnout revenge, battlefield modern combat, condemned, kameo, cod2, nba2k, nhl2k, blazing angels, the outfit, nfs most wanted, project gr, oblivion, farcry instincts predator, ghost recon aw, fight night3 and a bunch of other games that are already out. join xbox live and letz play together. 220 -
Playstation 3 =#1!Unregistered - Hero! 05.10.2006 05:22 To 219, u sound like a joke with that list of games there crap in comparison to the list i stated! 221 -
All of those xbox owners are like rats!Unregistered - Hero 05.10.2006 05:25 Hahhha that's funny the best line up for what? Untill PS3 comes out, that's because it has no competition untill november, allthoe PS2 and PSP is kicking it's as*! 222 -
#217Unregistered - evil 05.10.2006 05:43 you have nerve talking about CGI. 223 -
It seems like a decent deal.Unregistered - The mighty thor. 05.10.2006 06:16 Im an occasional gamer,and a big movie buff and sony has me sold. The graphics sound like they will be at least comparable to the 360( probably a bit superior by the sound of things) the real advantage the ps3 has is the inclusion of the blu ray player. Anyone who has seen hdtv knows that it BLOWS ANYTHING AWAY, INCLUDING STANDARD DVD. "Only the more expensive model will feature the blu ray player" You say. Well , at 600 dollars its still a bargain , because the cheapest blu ray players available COST ABOUT 500$ !!!!!. You say " well , blu ray hasnt established itself as the HD DVD source of the future" well it has already all but DONE that seeing as to how it has the hardware support of Panasonic, Philips, Samsung, Pioneer, Sharp, JVC, , Mitsubishi, TDK, Thomson, LG, Apple, HP and Dell , WHILE HD DVD ONLY HAS THE BACKING OF HITACHI. So basically Sony is poised to do what they set out to do , what microsoft will fail to do with the 360. That is , market a product that will have an appeal to a vast audience, not just gamers.Cheer up , Bill Gates has enough moolah. 224 -
To Prev Post ....$500??undisputed2k6 05.10.2006 06:48 Where have you seen a Blu-ray player for $500?? ..please give me a link! 225 -
ps3 priceUnregistered - ryan norton 05.10.2006 07:54 i already knew it would be that sort of price anyway its no suprise 226 -
#223Unregistered - X 05.10.2006 08:10 All that support doesnt mean shiit if the CONSUMERS dont support it you fag STFU man. 227 -
Save $30.00 a week until November 1st!!!Unregistered - Start Saving while you still can 05.10.2006 09:01 I originally stated that saving $20 a week would be enough money if saved until Nov. 1st. I am correcting my mistake and bumping it up $10. That way, people can preorder it and add $30 to it every week between now and Nov. 1st. 228 -
IndifferentUnregistered - Maahes 05.10.2006 09:10 To me their is no $500 PS3, just like their was no $300 360. 229 -
223 former questionmark 05.10.2006 10:03 it's a video game console. it is nice to see sony add innovative features like surfing the web (dreamcast), viewing peoples personal pics and blogs (computer), and motion sensing controller (logitech, microsoft, nintendo). how many people do you think will actually buy it just for blu-ray movies? i haven't personally seen a movie running on a blu-ray disc, but to me it's like leaving jennifer aniston for angelina jolie. you're going from great to great. yeah, jolie has the better lips, might be a little freakier in bed, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with the quality of aniston. 230 -
Sony SucksUnregistered - Bill 05.10.2006 10:14 Sony just sucks. They were doing great and just dropped the ball. First of all, why are they copying MS entirely. The whole controller thing was made by MS and Logitec about 6 years ago (majornelson.com). Then they Copy their global launch thing, Xbox live, and then copy the 2 SKU idea. Many Sony fans said that was stupid, but look at Sony's dumbass following. The games don't look better than 360 games (let down) and the coolest thing they had was the eyetoy...oh and Heavingly sword. So Sony wants me to pay $500-$600 so they can push Blu-ray on me when I don't care about new DVDs. I would much rather just play the games....afterall that is why I am buying it. Sorry, but Wii and MS have totally owned E3 so far. 231 -
stupid 360 fansUnregistered - ps32006 05.10.2006 10:32 you 360 fans are so stupid lol.... first, before we got the information about price, release date, etc... you was always the first to post, before the ps3 fans even did... sayin crap like... sony is all hyper, their gonna fall, its gonna be FOREVER before they give any info.... then when we finally get the info.... u still dog us sayin the price is too high, its a rip off, not worth it, sayin the 360 is better and still cheaper.... u all are so stupid and in-mature... i mean, every lil peice of info we get, u dog us about it.. i dont care what the topic is over... hell, if they told us that the ps3 would be releasin in 3 different colors, u would say all the colors are ugly.... u all are ridiclous..... u need to grow up and get a life.... and u spend more time on the ps3 sites then u do playin ur heatbox... sounds like to me, it isnt as great as you say.... f'in retards 232 -
Unregistered - Solid Snake 05.10.2006 11:09 Xbox owners are R= Right in there head E= Evil Idiots T= To stupid to realise A= A*shol*s R= Rejected from playstation D= dead 360 come some time in 2008 S= So stupid they can't admit the truth that sony is better 233 -
PS3 AKA: HEATBOX & KIDBOX KILLAUnregistered - BlindMan 05.10.2006 11:13 For a system that you 360bugs continually trash everyday, it sure is getting a whole lot of attention than the heatbox(360) and the kidbox (Wii). I don't get it, why are you here if the Sony's reign is over, you should be happy and celebrating on a 360sites, but no instead you're here talking about it. Once again you are are merely a 100 people here and you think that you talk for the whole public. If PS2 fans were the only one that bought a PS2, the sales number would have been about 17million, well guess what there another 80 million people who bought the PS2 too. Fanboys do not decide how many consoles that are sold the public does. Fact is fact, the PS3 will outsell both the 360 and the Wii combined, no doubt. So you're argument is now more than ever pointless, Sonyfans will swallow the price, and who knows they price might change, it's coming out in November remember. This E3 wasn't nobody's E3, Nintendo and MS didn't stun nobody either. Don't exagerate the event. You guys are saying that the PS3 looked the same as the 360, well guess what those are games that are not even out yet and still they look the same as the second wave games of the 360. Do the math. You 360bugs can get over the fact that even at $500, the PS3 will outsell it's competition. Get over with it, take it like a man and stop complaining like a little b*tch 234 -
YesUnregistered - Solid Snake 05.10.2006 11:17 To 233 yea man it's about time somebody said it, that's the truth right there people get with it or f*ck off! 235 -
IDIOTSUnregistered - Chris 05.10.2006 11:32 500$ for the 20 GB Version 600$ for the 60 GB Version Everybody who says this is expensive compared to the 360 is an IDIOT!! It's simple The Livespawn of the PS3 is about 6 Years or longer. PS3 costs 500 or 600§. Xbox 360 costs 400$. SO... how long do you wanna play with your Box with the online service? 3 Years???. That is about 60$ per Year. Making 180$ in 3 Years and 240$ in 4 Years. If you think about it exactly the PS3 is much CHEAPER than the 360. Because Sony 'S Online Service IS FREE. So think about it before you talk big. Than there is the Controller. Xbox Controller has nothing New. PS3 Controller allows you to play games without touching one Button. Is surely great in Racing Games and Flight Simulators. One more: PS3 has much better Exclusives than 360. This is the main Reason why i buy the PS3. 236 -
get out of here you god dame xbugx!!!Unregistered - blaze33 05.10.2006 11:57 i still dont understand...why do you xbox fanboys always start flame wars in this site....you like you xbox360..fine stay with it..but dont come here and bash the ps3...dont you understand yet..nobody cares about your opnion..its not like when you say stuff like(ps3 sucks!!)...or any thing like that gonna affect us...there is so much of xbox fan in these site thats only come and make fun at the ps3....for that reason im thinking to not come to this site again..its you xbox fanboys who gonna ruin this site... and everytime these fanboys act like kids...its only make wanna stay away from xbox360 more...and get closer to ps3... 237 -
Right so...Alexander 05.10.2006 12:03 "PS3 Controller allows you to play games without touching one Button. Is surely great in Racing Games and Flight Simulators. One more: PS3 has much better Exclusives than 360. This is the main Reason why i buy the PS3. " Without touching a single button. O RLY??? How are you going to fire? Brake? Turn the game on? W 238 -
Continued...Alexander 05.10.2006 12:03 What exclusives? MGS4? Any other good ones that arnt matched/beaten? 239 -
former questionmark 05.10.2006 12:12 online is only free from sony, not developers. devs can charge you if they want to. and blaze, you're a fanboy, otherwise you wouldn't use terms like xbugx. don't understand the mentality. a number of people get on a website and talk like jack@sses, so that makes you not want to get a 360. first off, nobody knows if half these people even have a 360. could be random people that just like to stir up sh*t. second, say you are interested in a particular car, then one day you see someone you don't like driving that particular kind of car. does that make you no longer want the car? same basic mentality. just because there are some idiots doesn't mean everyone is, or that it's a bad product. you never have to deal with the people that annoy you on this site even if you do get a 360. unfortunately, there are jack@sses everywhere that just want to ruin other peoples experiences, whether it be games, movie theatres, restaurants, ect. i've dealt with more rascism on websites and on xbox live then i have in my personal everyday life. you let the dumb@sses be dumb, and you stick with the good. i do find it funny that a number of people that do hate on this site will probably get a ps3 and be on somebodys friends list that they talked trash to. glorious day. oh, you're such and such. i hated you on that website, but i guess you're kinda cool after all. or maybe, now that i know you're an xbug i'm taking you off my list. never invite me to a game again. 240 -
to 237 - 238Unregistered - Chris 05.10.2006 13:05 Games like: Fatal Inertia Motorstorm Gran Turismo Ridge Racer Ace Combat Virtua Fighter TEKKEN Full Auto Killzone Monster Hunter and other Things who are coming up. Don't worry about that. The PS3 is coming in 6 Months. There are a couple of Games that are great on 360 to, but the Same Games are on PS3. Like Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Pro Evo Soccer, GTA, Sonic, Colin Mcrae Rally....... And you don't have to say it, i don't like HALO. And if you didn't check the New Controller. You use the Controller like a flight Stick. Pulling Up the Combat Vehicle by Wipping the Controller down a Bit and so on. This is a great Idea in my Opinion. 241 -
Unregistered - Hehe 05.10.2006 13:42 The bottom line is this microsoft is sonys bi*ch end of story! 242 -
Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy !!!Unregistered - wise gamer 05.10.2006 13:51 Halo3 Splinter cell 3 Fable 2 Too Human Shadowrun Forza 2 Lost Planet Gears of War GTA4 Mass Effect Alan Wake Xtreme Beach Volleyball 2 Lords of the Rings Battle for Middle etc, etc, etc.. 243 -
you forgotUnregistered - !@# 05.10.2006 14:56 you forgot: 360 rainbow6 vegas bio shock F.E.A.R next gen Madden07 only on 360 saints row Star Trek and so on 244 -
don't forget for the 360Unregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.10.2006 15:19 Viva Pinata (this game is truly awesome) Moto GP '06 Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter PGR4 which will be there somewhere in 2007 Huxley The Club No Sony fans, you just don't know the score yet, but you will soon. And Sony delays and delays they can almost skip this round and go design the next next gen because they are plain simply to late with no better hardware then there is around and in stores now for a lot less then that bread toaster 245 -
soUnregistered - sonyman 05.10.2006 15:21 that is splinter cell 4 dumbA$$ so what you guys are getting all thoughs games. i am sure we will have some good ones too. 246 -
what?Unregistered - what 05.10.2006 15:24 next gen madden07 only on 360. damn it...how did all this happen. sony? what are you doing to us...pick up the pace please!! 247 -
former questionmark 05.10.2006 15:45 they are making madden for ps3 as well. 248 -
no were notUnregistered - sonyman 05.10.2006 15:50 i couldn't believe it either, but they are. says so in M$'s press confrence. how did they pull that off? 249 -
Madden 07Unregistered - Xconcepts 05.10.2006 15:52 I have a 360 and getting a PS3 but heres the link for Madden 07 for PS3 http://ps3.ign.com/articles/707/707027p1.html 250 -
thank goodnessUnregistered - sony 05.10.2006 15:54 i was getting worried there. so, with that settled. are those other long list of game really exclusives too? can't believe everything you hear or see. 251 -
come onTHAMMER1 05.10.2006 15:54 Why pay for a blue ray player I thought we were gamers not movie gurus. I have always watched Sony closely; this new information on price and the true specs and system configuration are kind of disappointing. I believe its going to take them 2 or 3 years to catch up with xbox 360. Just because some one says that the PS3 sucks dose not mean they are wrong or, just there opinion I think it sucks too. But that dose not mean that Sony can’t make a better game than Halo 3 LOL LOL. I could never convince some of you that buying a ps3 now is strictly off of loyalty and not love for the new system at all. Most people know it is crap but will never admit that it is. Just because some body comes to this site and states fact dose not mean that they are trying to make you feel bad or stupid it the fact that buy your post we can tell that the company you trust has miss informed you to the point of brain washing. And really that is what sucks. Remember when the Sony fans were all like where do you get your info your MS employees or some crap, the reason why we know so much is because Xbox/Microsoft informs you fairly and honestly. I say why not share the info. I have checked out every thing MS/X 360 has pushed and it is all real and accurate even the info they released on thePS3 was true after my own personal research. It just sucks to see them try to take advantage of people who don’t take the time to read or search for the truth. The idea of the almighty PS3 is just that an idea not a fact by any means. 252 -
sony guyUnregistered - me 05.10.2006 15:59 sonyman, those games, not including madden, are exclusives for 360. but don't forget they have a head start. this year is all games and asscessories for them. once we are out of the gate...we will have games too. we did it to them last gen...it is all about who's first to the table. although an impressive list ours will be too. 253 -
sorry guys we are not getting m07Unregistered - mat 05.10.2006 16:06 i was checking things out, because this was worrying me too. the 360 is getting the only next gen 07. not on the ps3 it is on the ps2. http://www.easports.com/madden07/ check out EA's own web site. i heard the M$ confrence to and freaked out. we are getting it...just on last generations system. DAMN!! 254 -
HEAR ATTACKUnregistered - sonyman 05.10.2006 16:09 man, i keep having a heart attack then i hear good news, then back to heart attack...i don't think my heart can take it. says on ea's website for xbox, psp, playstation2, gamecube, and then...360. no ps3!!! 255 -
madden 07Unregistered - Xconcepts 05.10.2006 16:13 The only reason I think that they will not release it is because when the PS3 drops at the end of the year they feel it might not do well. But sayin that the 360 had Madden 06, even though it was better on the first xbox and PS2, release the same time last year when it dropped. I feel it still might release for PS3, just MO though 256 -
madden07Unregistered - on the fence 05.10.2006 16:18 well that does it for me...not waiting a whole year to play football. would not be so bad if they release a next gen o6 for us at least. i check out those exclusives thoughs guys listed. so many great titles. i can't believe i will be doing this...but looks like a 360 for me, than a PS3 when they finally have some games and the price drops. later 257 -
madden07Unregistered - matt 05.10.2006 16:21 just called gamestop...only taking pre orders for 360 only. not going to be on ps3. damn it 258 -
madden 07Unregistered - Xconcepts 05.10.2006 16:28 I'm not for sure but I don't think at this time last year you could get 06 for 360 reserved either. 259 -
Ment Could Not GetUnregistered - xconcepts 05.10.2006 16:29 ^^^Could not reserve 06 yet. 260 -
madden07Unregistered - stv 05.10.2006 16:36 nope, they are right. last gen and 360 only. it is on EA's web site and gamestop and eb games. wow, did not see that one coming. time to think about where to spend my money. this is the year madden gets ESPN. that means xbox live will have that real time sports ticker. 261 -
Madden '07Unregistered - Gamer 05.10.2006 16:45 Full info on the IGN review = http://sports.ign.com/articles/706/706168p1.html "IGN Sports: Have you had more time to develop Madden for PS3 than you had for the 360? Steve Chiang: I think in the end, it will end up being around the same. They are both going to ship around the same time frame, just a year different. The difference between the PS3 and the Xbox 360 in terms of games, our goal is to have everything we have on both platforms, but since we have more development time for PS3 since the games will ship later, we will have more development time to create more stuff. We're pretty excited about what we've got going, not only in Madden, but all our games. What we're showing at E3 is a unique perspective, a look under the hood at some of the new technology that we think is going to push sports games into the future. The more we can make the players come alive, the more we'll be able to blur those lines between what you see on your PS3 and what you see when you're watching a real game. That's always been the goal, and right now, we're closer than we've ever been. " 262 -
madden07Unregistered - matt 05.10.2006 16:54 dude, they are talking about the systems. this is old. go to ea's own web site. madden07 is 360 and last gen only. i don't want to believe it either. but i don't want to kid myself too. " think in the end, it will end up being around the same. They are both going to ship around the same time frame, just a year different." read the last four words. they wouldn't ship 07 a year later. that would be madden08 263 -
Sad little boys...please grow up already.Unregistered - Moostache 05.10.2006 17:04 "360 will pwn PS3".... "PS3 makes Xbox 3sh1tty scared".... "M$ sux...", "Fony lied"... YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN Do the people who actually type this stuff have any clue how retarded they sound to anyone with more than a 2nd grade education? By the way fellas, if you ever want to get jobs when you leave mommy and daddy's house, suggest very strongly that you stop playing games and learn to write coherently. THAT is way more important to your future well-being than whether or not "Bill G@y" does anything or whether the "DelayStation" is ever released. Christ in heaven deliver me from these idiots already. My kingdom for an intelligent thought expressed in a public forum already... This topic is supposed to be about the PS3 price and launch date and I just skipped about 220 out of 240 responses in this thread because they were written (if you can call what some of these troglodytes bang out on their keyboards as "writing") to a level of civility I would expect from the Hatfields and McCoys of the world if they were lobotomized and sent back to Nurse Ratchet. Sony is making a large gamble on the Blu-Ray device, possibly the biggest gamble in the history of their company - far more ambitious than Betamax or SACD or UMD. They are betting the farm on a single roll of the dice so to say. Instead of spreading the risk of launching a new optical video format over their much larger but struggling consumer electronics division, they are tying it directly to their most widely known property in the form of forced adoption via the PS3. This is a bold assumption to make - that A) ALL gamers will buy whatever Sony decides they must and that B) Blu-Ray technology will overtake DVD in the next 5 years. Why is that so bold? Because as good as DVD is, and as widespread and ubiquitious as it has become, there is simply no way Blu-ray, HD-DVD or even Jesus himself could wipe it out in the next 5 years. THAT fact alone makes a MANDATORY Blu_Ray drive on the PS3 foolhearty and quite frankly, astonishing in its arrogance. PS3 is first and foremost a game console. For avid gamers, it is more and for home video enthusiasts it is more, but to the general public who wouldn't know Solid Snake from Whitesnake, the PS3 is a game machine. Look at it this way - the SMART play, the play that would have guaranteed an easy Sony "win" in the coming console sales race, would have been to base the machine around existing DVD technology (like MS with the XB360), add in their new Cell processor technology and undercut Microsoft on price right there - come to market at $299 again and point to MS as being overpriced and not consumer friendly. That would have allowed Sony to loudly proclaim a more advanced system with "Cell technology"; (Aside thought - which they are doing anyway, but that talk almost gets lost in the shuffle because they have to also taut the Blu-Ray at the same time - if you think that an "average" consumer can take in that much "new" in a product, and still understand it fully, then you are woefully out of touch with the realities of the marketplace economy) and still given them latitude to release a add-on Blu-Ray, at a very reduced $200 price later on. The advantage of that would have been obvious - Sony could sell a bunch more PS3's at $300 than they will at $600 and they could sell a TON of Blu-Ray add-ons at $300 (when other stand alone players are at $1000 or more) to just about everyone if Blu-ray becomes the de facto HD-optical media choice. If not? Then a cheaper PS3 would still be churning out cash instead of being albatrossed with a $200-300 price tag increase on a gamble trying to force the market to adopt a new media standard designed by Sony. I am unsure why they believe this will work THIS time. It did not work with Betamax, it did not work with SACD (in fact that spilt format KILLED the high definition music market and instead forced the distribution into the hands of Apple and mp3's at MUCH less quality, it did not work with Memory Stick, and it did not work with UMD. I may be old-fashioned, but I am unaware of the saying that says the FIFTH time is the charm. Instead of continuing to maintain and expand their dominant position in the gaming market, Sony is now betting it all on forcing Blu-ray into everyone's homes. Problem is that games and movies, especially ones that not easily distinguished from cheaper alternatives (such as XB360 games, with similar if not equal graphics; and DVD movies, that on non-HDTVs, which is more than 75% of ALL TVs in operation, look about the same as HD-DVD or BD)will not be compelling to people the same way original DVD was compared to VHS or the way the PS2 was compared to the PS1. At that point, PRICE is VITAL beyond your core market, and although Sony sold 100M Playstation 2 units, no one can truly believe that ALL of those customers will lemming on over to a $600 PS3 now. Finally, people can endlessly debate the graphics capability of hardware, but they should remember this before they type anything - the little box itself, be that an X-Box 360 or a Playstation 3 or a Nintendo Wii, in and of itself does NOTHING! The games and more precisely the game developers quite simply rule the industry as far as what system "wins". For Sony to put all the eggs in the Blu-Ray basket and force this onto the PS3 with no ability of having it as an option or add-on, unnecessarily I might add, is monumentally ballsy, but may end up being the nail in their corporate coffin. Setting aside all system specifications, game designers care first and foremost about turning a profit (hence all the sequels and lack of orriginality industry wide), but secondly they care about as wide an installed user base as possible to move software. After the first wave of PS3's sell out, and after all of the hardcore game enthusiasts and Home Theater junkies get their fix, how exactly is a $600 game machine going to find widespread acceptance in Middle Class families around the world? That alone, whether or not it represents "value" to electronics junkies like myself (and I assume all of the non-12 year olds on this forum) will dictate a stunning reality in the next 18-24 months - the "console war" is going to become a draw. Someone is going to have slightly more machines in place than the others, but NO ONE is going to hold the same dominance that Sony enjoyed with the PS2. Their pricing all but guarantees this. Sony has set themselves up for widespread discord from the game designers, for overpromising new features and depressing existing sales and then delaying and under delivering (honestly, after E3 2005, I EXPECTED to be playing my Killzone2 by now, as nice as some of the new games look, they dont look THAT nice yet and that is a big problem to overcome - outside of the fanboys and loyal customer base)on performance, further depressing the existing market while the smoke clears. That is not making the sharehodlers and boards of the softwar manufactures get a wram-fuzzy for future dealings with Sony - just one reason amoung many that there is a noticeable decrease in console specific exclusives this time around. Sony has also set themselves up for widespread consumer backlash at their obnoxiously high mainstream pricing as well. Go to the local big-box retailer (BestBuy, Circuit City, etc.) and look at the prices of their offerings. Sure they have the flashy flat pannel TVs, but mainly the $3500 and less ones. They may have the $1000 Onkyo receiver, but they have a lot more of the $300 ones available to choose from. They may sell the $600 each speakers, but they move a lot more $99 HT-in-a-box units. In the end, the point really boils down to this: if you want mainstream acceptance and adoption of your format, the way to do it is NOT by pricing yourself out of the mainstream discretionary income price range. $600 is flat out too much money for a game system to obtain critical mass and move $100M units or even a fraction of that. Yes, the launch will sell-out and yes, until about this time in 2007, a PS3 will be considered a "hot" item, but after Spring of 2007, reality will set in and Sony will find it increasingly difficult to move units out of retailers and into the nhands of the more prudent and reluctant public at large. I guarantee that 90% of the people in this forum did not read more than the first paragraph of this, but when it happens, I promise not to come back and tell anyone I told you so. Just know this much, I sold all of my Sony stock within 30 minutes of hearing that the PS3 was going to be priced at $600. I did not necessarily run out to buy Microsoft or Nintendo stock, but Sony is in an at-risk position at the moment and I cannot see how they get out of this one in one piece. Of course, all of that is just my opinion, I could be wrong... 264 -
^^^^ 263 ^^^^^^Unregistered - ARIZONA 05.10.2006 17:13 Great read buddy. Very educational. 265 -
# 263Unregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.10.2006 17:48 Well you wrote a book, but all has been said in one way or another. About the price of the PS3 compared to the PS2 at launch, you are missing some information. At least, a PS2 did cost at launch here in the Netherlands around 1200 Dutch guilders at that point in time, which is about 550 EUro's, but get the inflation in 6 years with that and it's even more then the PS3 cost nowadays. I agree that the PS3 is way to expensive compared to alternative 360. Which offers the same graphic quality, for much less money. And has a full grown Live service, tested for 4 years on the old XBOX, get real good exclusive NEW franchises, where the PS3 only build on old names with not much exiting stuff. With the PS2 there was the Dreamcast as competition. Sony had their sick fake marketinglies again up and Dreamcast went bankrupt. They tried the marketingtrick again this time, but Microsoft is a different kind of player. They have more funds then Sony, they can make and break a system if they want. Look at GTA4, it's a sword directly in the heart of Sony/PS3. However all Sony fanboys are saying it doesn't matter, this title was exclusive, called the biggest francise ever and a definite system seller. And so, so much more. Good you sold your Sony stocks, I think it is wise. But Sony is declining already for some time. It has just based too much on too much fake promesses, even from day one of the stories about the PS2. They now will get the bill presented, kicked back even further by the Blue Ray stupido choice 266 -
Poor Xbugs want to soothe themselves by saying "sony sux" Unregistered - Doom 05.10.2006 18:04 Sony owned MS girls and that's real. what ms had to show other than a bunch of lame accessories and old games? and a video and not in-game H3 trailer? i suggest everyone go and see the 15 minute MGS4 trailer. you poor xbugs don't have enough money for the supreme console aka PS3 and that's why you're talking crap about it. you shouldn't waste your money on that inferior, weak, cheap piece of crap or better to say HEATBOX 3SH!TTY. 267 -
Unregistered - 263 05.10.2006 18:26 READ #263......IT'S SO TRUE, CHEERS MATE 268 -
# 266Unregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.10.2006 18:31 So there is the endlessly MGS4 coming up again. Is that the only game where Sony fans can talk about? That's kind of the same as Halo 3 for 360 then right? Stop whining. Halo 3 was rendered in real time, done by the 360 hardware period. MGS4, well if it's your kind of party and the only one be happy with it. Why don't we ever hear anything anymore about the great pre rendered sh*tmovies that Sony show last year's E3 for example for Killzone 2? See Gears of War on the 360 and be silent. And it has been said before, graphics of PS3 and 360 are about the same in quality. Only difference, PS3 CPU is slightly better, but much harder to programm right, 360 GPU is stronger and easy to programm. So if you are calling anything inferior, it's clear you have no knowledge about things. Plain simple: 360 delivers now, gamestuff is what you see is what you get. Sony has faked in the past and will do again still now. What besides MGS4 is there for real? The motor thing? Well it's allright but it ain't mind blasting great. With Ghost Recon AW, PGR3, Fight Night Round 3, Condemned, Kameo, DOA4, Oblivion as the launch window games seem quit a lot better then the few real things I've seen from Sony so far. One has to pray hard that the PS3 can touch that. I've never seen a console before (XBOX, PS2, PS1, all Nintendo's and so on) that had such a strong line up with so much titles avaible in such a short time. And be fair: let's hope they are on time this time. I've heard the whole of 2005 that the PS3 would be out in spring 2007, it was clear it wasn't going to happen. Suddenly they said: summer 2007... Again delay delay... Now it is Christmas 2007... Let's hope they're not bankrupt before that point in time! 269 -
Unregistered - Dante 05.10.2006 18:32 The bottom line is this, sony is better full stop; this is not a childish post, this is real. The reason i state this is because i think people have a short memory of the xbox 1 they took 3 years to deliver some decent eclusives and if it was any other company other than microsoft sony would have bankrupt them, they also launched a lot later giving them time to design a more powerfull machine. As for all this talk about the xbox 360 having better games and graphics, what in the blue devil are these people talking about sure halo 3 and gears of war ok, but to even think that they have more better games is beyond a joke, most of the games they have stated are either multi platform or going to be old news by the time PS3 arrives, just look at what ps3 is releasing; Killzone 2 Motorstorm MGS4 Tekken 6 Devil May Cry 4 Killing Day F1 Warhawk Intestellar Marrines Heavingly Sowrd Finall fantasy something (But it looks the part) GT 5 Lair Ridge Racer 7 GTA 4 and etc and i will state those games alone pretty much beat the xbox line up! And to the guy who wrote the book this is a good point, but let's be real here everybody always has something to say i.e. oh it can't be done, no way can that be real and so on, but do these people ever get tired of being wrong, because they are sony will reduce the console as time goes on and in japan they couod sell it for £$1000 and i think there would still be the frenzy thwre is! Things will pan out people will see! 270 -
@#265 sorry to shatter your dreams Unregistered - Doom 05.10.2006 18:34 i know you can't believe it but actually Sony has more money than MS. go to these links and look at the Cash And Cash Equivalents section for 31-Mar-05. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bs?s=MSFT&annual ----> MS balance sheet http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bs?s=SNE&annual ----> Sony balance sheet 271 -
Unregistered - Solid Snake 05.10.2006 18:36 "68 you are having a laugh right, that is a crap bunch of next gen quality games you mentioned, sure they might be good for current gen but not next sony is going to destroy xbox 360 and that's it! 272 -
Unregistered - Solid Snake 05.10.2006 18:37 268 sorry 273 -
Unregistered - EX Xbox Elitist 05.10.2006 18:56 That's it i'm converting to sony the winning team, i'm sick of being on the loosing side, and sony really does have a better line up 274 -
Unregistered - EX Xbox Elitist 05.10.2006 18:56 That's it i'm converting to sony the winning team, i'm sick of being on the loosing side, and sony really does have a better line up 275 -
lolUnregistered - lol 05.10.2006 18:57 lollolololololololol. ps3 276 -
THANK YOU 360 F-AGBOYSold school with a new twist 05.10.2006 20:32 I'm thinking of buying a 360. But the more I come on this site and see it being saturated with 360 fanboys bragging about their system and saying how sony suck, and sony's done, and blah,blah.blah, just makes me think that if I do buy a 360, I would have to play online with all those angry racist retards that frankly are not real gamers and don't know that they are talking about. Oh and just for the record. PS3=$600 with Bluray (better than HD DVD) Xbox360=$400 + HD DVD adapter ? = Most likely the same if not MORE!! PS3= Better games PERIOD!!! 360= 80% FPS(lame) PS3=Better quality 360=cheap quality you know what fu*k it I'm not buying the 360. Thanks for convincing me 360 fanboys. 277 -
Unregistered - Solid Snake 05.10.2006 20:38 M= Morons I= Ignorant C= Crap R= Retarded xbox owners O= Overated shi* S= Shi**y overpriced merchandise + software O= Only has a chance if the sony let's it have 1 as microsoft is sonys bi*ch F= Fuc*ing idiots T= Tierd of themselves being wrong all the time lolololol 278 -
Xbox Rats!Unregistered - Solid Snake 05.10.2006 20:38 M= Morons I= Ignorant C= Crap R= Retarded xbox owners O= Overated shi* S= Shi**y overpriced merchandise + software O= Only has a chance if the sony let's it have 1 as microsoft is sonys bi*ch F= Fuc*ing idiots T= Tierd of themselves being wrong all the time lolololol 279 -
Xbox rats Scavaging for leftovers!Unregistered - solid Snake 05.10.2006 20:41 Have u seen the xbox conference it's getting destroyed by playstation! 280 -
Unregistered - Dante 05.10.2006 20:46 How interesting is that the hd player How interesting is that box 360 doesn't come with the hd player and it costs $199 now to me that sounds like a $500 package to me so who is getting ripped of now aye! 281 -
P A T H E T I CUnregistered - boycott 05.10.2006 20:49 I realy hate the M$ fanboys that come here talking s)-(it. I bet most of them didn't even watch the M$ press conference. They only watched the Sony one to come here after and bully people. P A T H E T I C. I say from now on ALL the Sony fanboys unite and boycott the xbox360. Lets show these fu*kers just how many PS3's the Sony fanboys can move. 282 -
I'm in!Unregistered - Solid Snake 05.10.2006 20:53 Solid Snake is here man! 283 -
# 280Unregistered - Oh yeah 05.10.2006 20:56 $500 + (Xbox Live $50 x 6 years)= ?????? That's right LOSER, that's $800 and counting. PS3= better hardware Bluray>HD DVPrik 284 -
Dip s)-(itsUnregistered - boycott 05.10.2006 21:01 These fu*kers want war, will give them war. There are more Sony fanboys than M$ will ever have. ALL the Sony fanboys lets all unite and FRAG the hell out of the 360. I'm tired of trying to be civilized with these Dip s)-(its, My true fanboy is coming out and it wants BLOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!! 285 -
Boycott the xbox360 and lets show these fukers jus 05.10.2006 21:33 Nough said!!!!!! 286 -
wooops!!!! LMFAOBoycott the xbox360 and lets show these fukers jus 05.10.2006 21:34 Boycott the xbox360. Lets show these fu*kers just how many PS3's the Sony fanboys can move. 287 -
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gUnregistered - g 05.10.2006 22:14 a boycott that starts from a ps3today.com forum. lol that's funny. anyways, i think sony lost this year's E3. check out the editors blogs and the people's comments on the 3 companies: http://ps3.1up.com/ to sum it up, majority of people already thinks sony was such a disappointment with nintendo wii and the microsoft 360 being on top. 290 -
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# 289Boycott the xbox360 and lets show these fukers jus 05.10.2006 22:21 We're boycotting the Xbox360 and the fans that go with it you IDIOT not the PS3 dip s)-(it. I'm a Sony fanboy and even I was a little disapointed at their press conference you MORON. But that doesn't mean that Sony doesn't pump out some of the best games of all time you LOSER 292 -
Too much money!!!Unregistered - The Batman 05.10.2006 22:38 After the $600.00 PS3, an extra controller and some games you have spent over a grand. I will keep my 360 and buy Gears of War and Too Human for $120.00 and use the rest of my cash on holiday gifts for other people. The PS3 will not be better from a graphics standpoint. If you want the Sony exclusives than God bless you and get a PS3. Overall I feel like the 360 is great value for the money. 293 -
Quotes from CNN(read dummy)Unregistered - Bye Bye sony 05.11.2006 00:07 "Sony announced plans Monday to offer two packages when the system goes on sale this fall. A PS3 with a 20 GB hard drive will cost consumers $499. Those wanting a larger, 60 GB hard drive will pay $599. The $499 version will also lack several features found in the more expensive one.The $499 price had been widely speculated, but industry observers were surprised with Sony's decision to offer two packages - as well as with the $599 price. The PS3 will be $200 and $300 higher than the launch price of the PlayStation 2 six years ago. It's $100 higher than the current retail price of Microsoft's (Research) Xbox 360. While the controller looks virtually identical to the current PS2 controller, user wrist movements can also be translated into onscreen movement. Nintendo shrugged off the similarities, with a spokesperson saying "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"." So thats the final word? 2 sku's and its basicaly a core and a premium, there is not just a HD size difference. Are the forums over at sony sites understanding what sony just pulled on everyone.? Because as it stands you need to buy the 600 buck PS3 in order to have the full options. am i wrong 294 -
PS........Unregistered - Bye Bye sony 05.11.2006 00:13 Now lets do some math. 600 bucks plus tax =650 Plus 1 game 60 bucks =715 plus if you need a controller and accesories and to pay for multiplayer then your at 850 easy. I got the cash but does the rest of world have that much to throw away on a game machine, especially as a gift for a kid. I DONT THINK SO MY FRIENDS. 295 -
compareUnregistered - watts 05.11.2006 03:05 Xbox 360 Core System Basic Bundle $399.96 Xbox 360 Wireless Controller $49.99 Now lets include the hd-dvd ? $200 $399.96+$49.99+$200= $649.95 oh and lets not forget Live + $50*3 years= $150 $649.95+$150.00=$799.95 799.95 - 60 for the game they added in the bundle/Grand total, $739 give or take $20 PS3 $600/ an extra remote $50 = $650 /No cost for HD /No cost for online/ 40 more gigs of hdd/ memory card reader/ hdmi Any more ? Xbox360=$739 give or take $20 Ps3 = $650 give or take $20 296 -
MY PC IS FINDING IT HARD TO LOAD THIS PAGEUnregistered - hh 05.11.2006 03:14 ok we get your point 297 -
its overUnregistered - MicroMuthaPuckinSoft 05.11.2006 03:22 first off the way i see it around my block is that all the kids who are rich or have money have a 360 and most of them hate sony. all the kids that have ps2's and love sony to death are poor or have no job or what ever. so the way i see it is microsoft has the support of the people that matter most the rich kidz. and sony has the support of the worst people the bums lol 360 will win north america and overseas but of couse not japan but who needs the japs anyways they have shifty eyes i dont trust them 298 -
PS3 WHY SO SOONUnregistered - mary 05.11.2006 03:53 i only recently picked up a ps2 due to the price drop and now i hear theres a ps3 coming out sony has just ripped me of and i will never buy a sony product again 299 -
#295 do your math or tell the truthUnregistered - Bye Bye sony 05.11.2006 05:35 post # 295 the xbox360 core is not 399 u moron its 299. So right off the bat your wrong and your post is worthless now. 300 -
this is the correct math u moronUnregistered - bye bye sony 05.11.2006 05:42 399 premium, includes wireless remote and headset. xbox live silver is free, you pay 50 for gold you moron. ps3 will charge for multiplayer like MS. add a game for 60, so 399 plus 40 for tax 440 plus 1 game is 500 your not forced to pay more for what you dont need now you have sonys 599 ps3 plus a game is 650. who cares about blueray, i dont need it, who really needs it. DVD's are in there prime. 301 -
# 271Unregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.11.2006 06:49 Well I've seen the game line up of Sony in their dissapointing press conference and it's quit fair to say that the 360 line up just is stronger and more diverse then the Japanese PS3 one. Their humor and understanding of modern gaming is just different from Western countries. Enjoy the MGS4 in Japanese, I don't get it really by seeing the content Sony showed. Have you heard the public at Sony's conference, just plain quit, almost no applause, no cheering. Compare that to the public enthousiasm at MS concerence with the games they showed. For the rest: Gears of War will put heat on stuff for sure. I would have been going to buy the 360 as well as the PS3, but after all these dissapointments and delays and dissapointing content I'll just stick with the 360 and buy a Wii with it. Two consoles for the price of one PS3 :) 302 -
JOIN THE BOYCOTT Unregistered - Doom 05.11.2006 07:35 FOCK MICROSOFT AND IT'S F@GBOYS! BOYCOTT XBOX360!! JOIN THE BOYCOTT!!! 303 -
hey MARTUnregistered - Doom 05.11.2006 07:45 enjoy playing that piece of crap. i'll play those games on pc that blows your 3sh!tty right now. plus, i'll play MGS4 and FF13 and many other exclusive PS3 titles in FULL GLORIOUS 1080P. good luck with those stripped down pc ports on your 3sh!tty. HAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAHH!!! 304 -
READ THIS FANBOY'S...Unregistered - LOL 05.11.2006 07:50 http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/ps3/game/news/article.jsp?articleId=20060509142437859038§ionId=1006 305 -
HERE IT IS IF YOU DON"T KNOW HOW TO FOLLOW A LINK ;)Unregistered - LOL 05.11.2006 07:52 Tuesday 9 May 2006 Mere moments after the conclusion of Sony's pre-E3 conference, we managed to knacker a PS3 with our very own hands - and we weren't even trying. As the speeches and announcements drew to a close, attendees were given the opportunity to play PS3 for the very first time. Only a handful of pods were set up around the Los Angeles auditorium - but we made sure that we elbowed our way to the front of the queues. Our efforts were initially rewarded with being able to play Sonic the Hedgehog on the next-gen machine. Or so we thought. To begin with, and once we got over the initial thrill of the simple realisation that we were playing PS3 for the first time ever, we were engaged by the game's classic Sonic styling. In the demo, players are given the option of taking control of either Sonic or Silver the Hedgehog. Either way, it makes little difference: this game is ridiculously fast. And slightly twitchy and overly-responsive with it. Either that, or we were just so excited to be playing PlayStation 3 that we somehow forgot the skills necessary for controlling a blue hedgehog. The environments and backdrops are huge - although it doesn't actually look that 'next-gen', more current-gen-and-a-half. As we were in the process of considering this, the game crashed and the screen went blank. We were loath to give up our pad to the civilians in the queue behind us, but there appeared to be little point in standing there looking at a blank screen. Either way, it seemed as if we'd inadvertently killed a PlayStation 3. Fortunately, tech support was on hand in the form of a man opening up the outsize drawer in which the PS3 was hidden and hitting the reset button. In the process, the truth of what we were actually playing on was revealed: a huge betamax video recorder-looking dev kit, and not a sexy 'clear black' PS3 at all. As a first taste of PS3, it wasn't quite what we had hoped for. But it was quite funny. 306 -
so Doom has a 1080p TV?Unregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.11.2006 08:01 Even though the TV's that are out there for a few % that support 1080p they downscale to 1080i. The ones that are true 1080p are too expensive even for you my man. Even the coming years they won't be mainstream, so the 1080p thing is just the marketingsony sh*t that is worth nothing. And for the rest, the Nvidia 7900 standaard GPU the PS3 will have isn't even capable of pumping through the rough data amount that is nescessary for 1080p on a normal frame rate with millions of colors. So expect Sony to downgrade your beautifull 1080p dreams to 720p at launch, because it makes no sense, the databusses can't even transport the amount of data. It's even so funny, that the FPS will not be above 24 p/s with 4096 colors more will slow down your PS3 so much it will look more like a 8 bit Nintendo Funny kid 307 -
Unregistered - Masterchief 05.11.2006 08:23 I've been an xbox elitist for 3 years now and have to say the PS3 will destroy the xbox when it comes out, have you seen the games on the ps3 way better than any of the games on the xbox 360. 308 -
MART don't be lazyUnregistered - Doom 05.11.2006 08:34 i don't sleep in my home day and night like you Racist Xbugs. i work hard and earn good money and my parents support me too. i will get the first true 1080p TV from Sony or Toshiba. probably the new Grand Wega series that they will launch with the PS3 in the end of 2006. 1080p will become mainstream because electronics get cheap quickly and these consoles will be here till 2012. 1080p is the future. look here: "..All of the content demonstrated in the conference was in glorious 1080p, including games. Gran Turismo was one of the first titles featured at 1080p. EA announced they will have 10 launch titles for PS3, though it isn't clear which titles will feature 1080p. Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy 13 were two other memorable 1080p announcements." http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2204 1080P IS REAL!! 309 -
# 308 Doom ofcourse dream onUnregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.11.2006 08:54 Ofcourse, so why are you typing in your bosses time then on a console forum? At least I have my own company and we'll get a good laugh about what you are typing. Allright, so you'll buy the real 1080p TV somewhere in 2006/2007. Right. So how many zero's behind the dot do you want to pay? At the moment such screens begin at a minimum around 4.000 dollars for the most simple ones going up to if you want 4 zero numbers behind the dot. Be my guest. Main stream it won't be untill the life span of this next gen consoles are over. Your PS3 or my 360 it is. Furthermore you are not informed well, but mislead by Sony. 1080p is nowhere near a standard. 720p and 1080i are the standard at the moment and for the coming years. TV signals in HD are 720p everywhere and broadcasting stations won't invest in higher signals very fast again. So how fast did we all switch from CD to DVD? Or from DVD to a next gen drive? Not so freaking fast. 720p is sharp enough, especially when the TV is not larger then 60 inch and I bet there are not much persons who want a bigger TV or can afford it. If your new PS3 has to keep alive untill 2012 I'm pretty sorry for you. In 5 years maximum a new XBOX will be there, and the 360 and PS3 have to compete, you think what the next XBOX in the end of 2010 will do the next two years with the PS4... Furthermore, just expect Sony lateron to downgrade it all to 720p. Or worse, upgrade the 720p signal to 1080p. Simply because the PS3 GPU can't get it done. Its a freaking Nvidia 7900, the current gen GPU's cannot put out a signal that high because the data that has to be transported is cut off at the bottleneck of the system. That is why 1080p will have no more then 24 FPS and 4096 colors if they try to pull it off. So please dream on, go and read the facts, you don't know even the hardware of the PS3 as a fanboy, that's sad. Furthermore, remember, I had a PS1, a PS2 and a XBOX in the past, I am not surely a xboy, but the marks just tell the thruth. So keep shouting calling about crazy resolutions that are of no use, in the end don't exist (remember Sony telling you would have 2 x HDMI 1080p output, what became of that? The pre rendered beautifull trailers of last E3 where are those? The releasedate of the PS3, december 2005, spring 2006, summer 2006, winter 2006, never? and more of those lies same as with PS2?) Are you just that dumb and won't see or believe Microsoft that says: 360 december 2005 it's there. Trailers and demo's are real time. Just open your eyes... 310 -
If you dislike PS3, then why waste your timeUnregistered - Stay Away from PS3 Today Xbox Lovers 05.11.2006 08:57 Do not come to PS3today.com if you hate it, you are just wasting your/our time and being stupid for coming to this website. Everything Sony decides is out of the customers' best interest. Bad XBOX 360s came out at launch, I should know I bought one. Microsoft rushed to be out on the market with an unfinished product. 311 -
how 1080p without HDMI by the wayUnregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.11.2006 09:04 I would like a PS3 if Sony did it right, but they don't One more thing for all 1080p lovers like Doom which make no sense. How do you think the cheaper version of the PS3 for 500 Euro's/Dollars is going to play 1080p without a HDMI port? Right it won't. The component will give 720p/1080i at max. So expect the games to be in 720p, and maybe upscaled by software to 1080p on the expensive version which makes no freaking sense. Only movie playback will have function 1080p on the expensive 600 E/D version, on the 'cheaper' one it will be 720p again probably... I bet they make all games just in 720p in the end... 312 -
YOUR COMPANY???Unregistered - Doom 05.11.2006 09:20 OH YEAH? what company WAL-MART?? LOL!!! all of you Xbugs are company CEOs, experts, hardware designers, economists and you are here flaming this site 24/7 ROFLMAO!!! the truth is Sony OWNED Microshaft just like last year and you need to just shut up. MGS4, Heveanly Sword, Motor Storm, FF13, Lair, Warhawk, VF5, 8 Dayss were fantastic. and you only brag about H3. truth is the WORLD laughs at you Xbugs. Crysis on pc ownes that sh!t. your opinion doesn't change anything. look at polls, nearly 90 percent of respondents are either extremely or very much satisfied with PS3. PS3 controller is a generation ahead of 3sh!tty controller 'cause it has motion sensing. and as i said i boycott MS and will never buy their cheap sh!t again. 313 -
Non believer about 720p @ PS3? Read these articlesUnregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.11.2006 09:23 http://technology.guardian.co.uk/weekly/story/0,,1710274,00.html http://games.kikizo.com/news/200602/065_p5.asp Not much more to be said I think, or one or two fanboys that still believe Sony ofcourse... 314 -
Economy sucks because of BushUnregistered - Do not compare to politics!!! 05.11.2006 09:30 The only reason he's still President is because people are/were afraid nothing positive would come of changing Presidents after 9/11. Bill Clinton acted just like the average male husband and cheated on his wife in his own home. So stop and think, he is someone who was confronted about a mistake he made. How would you feel if everything from your personal life was made public in the entire world, not just nation wide. Besides, everything Bush has said he would do he has not. He ignored a warning about 9/11 just like he ignored warning of Katrina. Get it thru all your heads, he simply does not care about his country, his job, or us the Americans. He cares only for himself, He is everything this country does not stand for. Actually, take time and be a real American and do something to help our country instead of voting for someone who does not care about what this country stands for. We are Americans in danger. I just voiced my opinion as an American, so there is nothing you can do about it because of Freedom of Speech. I will always stand up for everyone's rights in this country except those who are destroying us illegally. I will defend everyones rights in America except for those who do not belong here. Hopefully, God will Bless the United States of America in 2008. Because he did not in 2000 or 2004. Oh, you can not hate someone you do not know personally, because truthfully, you do know the kind of person they really are. I do not hate Bush, I simply saw him tell us he would do great stuff for this country then he turned around and started a war with false information after ignoring threats that started a chain of events. For everyone who dislikes this comment, do not get upset because I am never returning to this website because Politics & Video Games do not mix well. 315 -
broken promises...Unregistered - Shabazz 05.11.2006 09:37 I was waiting for the PS3 because it looked really good at last year's E3. However, the games only look okay. There are a couple of things missing from the PS3 that was published in the gameinformer (dual HDMIs, seven blue tooth controllers (the controller only has 4 lights), wireless only for the 600 version). I must say as someone who held out on buying a 360, it is starting to look appealing to me. I hope Sony can show me something in the next couple of days to change my perception of the PS3. 316 -
hey MARTUnregistered - Doom 05.11.2006 09:49 $600 PS3= full version $500 PS3= 40 GB less HDD space, no HDMI, no WiFi, no card reading ability OK , what's the problem? the $500 version gives you the same gaming experience. it has the same controller and also the HDD. this won't hurt your gaming experience. and if you haven't heard, they have decided to let HD movies run through component cable and don't require HDCP at least for a couple of years because of the early HD_TV adopters who don't have HDMI. Now let's see if MS had done it right? $400 360= full version $300 360= no HDD, no wireless controllers, no HD cables ( i thought we're in HD era) . OK , i can't save my games right out of the box. i can't get an HD resolution from my so called next gen console. i get more load times because of the lack of a hard drive. this is called rip off! this is called CHEATING PEOPLE AND YOUR PRECIOUS MICROSOFT IS DOING THAT Mr. MART , OPEN YOUR EYES!! 317 -
iM STILL GETTING IT!Unregistered - DarkPrinynce 05.11.2006 10:12 Think about it, about the time you get your XBOX 360, WITH TH HD-DVD ADD-ON, IT WILL COST YOU OVER THE PRICE OF A FULLY LOADED PS3 THAT ALREADY COMES WITH A BLUE-RAY......HELLO! 318 -
You Sony fans are just to much!Unregistered - ee 05.11.2006 10:13 The ps3 line up has nothing on the 360 line up period! You guys keep on trying to find and invent reasons on why to get a ps3 but go over to an xbox site and look at all the new and diverse title coming and it's easy to see that MS isn't playing! The accessories are also pretty sweet for 360 like the force feedback wireless steering wheel and yes i said wirless and then you have a wireless communicator wich shows that wires are a thing of the past! Anybody that ignores the fact that 360 has come along way so quick has got to be foolish and anybody that takes this stuff to serious has got to be childish! We still have a day left of e3 and from the looks of it all the good news keeps coming to 360 and I dont see how a company with a much smaller fanbase can simply overshadow or just make Sony look inferior! So go cry and reply xbug this and that all you want but you idiots know that 360 is one hell of a machine and surpasses ps3 in every way even though it comes out a year later so thats sick! My last thing to say is remember that Sony themselves started the whole console war talking crap stuff so don't get mad when people tell you the truth and Sony gets smacked in the face at this years E3 by MS and Nintendo! 319 -
to The MARTMathoss 05.11.2006 10:17 Nice article you posted here the only problems... THEY ARE DATED FEBUARY... Developper were working with a dev kit emulating a cell at 2.2Ghz without the final video card. Technically with the final chip speed, flops and bandwith specs provided 1080P is achievable. 320 -
#317 whatever you say it's still to much money for ps3!!!Unregistered - ee 05.11.2006 10:20 The 360 idea is better because you can add when your ready for the additional cost! I would rather have a choice and you can even add it to the core and who's to say that 360's price won't drop at ps3's launch! It's pretty bad when you have to convince yourself to buy something thats to expensive and when you buy it find out it really wasn't worth it! If they live up to any of the hype I might get one in 4 or 5 years once the price drops but I find it very unlikely because by then 360 will look way better as far as games go! 321 -
GUnregistered - G 05.11.2006 10:27 just read up on what editors on most site think about PS3. Here's one editor's blog on 1up: http://ps3.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=7019458&publicUserId=5442778 there's lots more just like that. to sum up what the editors and most of the comments about them say... SONY E3 = BIG DISAPPOINTMENT. E3 winners = either 360 or wii. no one thinks sony is having a good show, no gaming site, and no one at E3. the only ones who were "blown away" by the E3 conference are the now shrinking fanboy crowd. still don't believe me? go check any other ps3 forums, whether it be gamefaq 1up or gamespot. 322 -
XBOX 360 FreaksUnregistered - Gamer 05.11.2006 10:32 OK this is getting ridiculous. Tell me why if you are so gun ho about your 360 you are wasting our time and your time at a PS3 site. I mean for the lovev of gaming. Do your job at work, play at your xbox 360 sites or actually play your wonderful xbox 360 (it really is a good system btw). I am here to discuss about the PS3 I am going to get for the games I like to play. Not to have Microsoft employees try and swing me to buying another good gaming product. So what you don't care about HD-DVD then don't come here. So what you like your xbox and hate the PS3. DON'T come here and waste our time with your panzy talking about the Xbox. You say we are PS3 fanboys whatever. Get a life we are at a PS3 site not a Xbox site so go crawl back in your immature hole. Talk about your xbox on a Xbox site or forum and get over it. This is so retarded when you're wasting the time of a gamer of getting true information and feedback from other TRUE Playstation fans ... not the "I was a fan but now I am going to xbox" Fine go ahead I don't care give me information on the article. Give me information about the ps3. Not Xbox is better. That does nothing for me and just fills these comments with owrthless crap. You can claim the PS fanboys are just as bad and they are but they are retorting like children to the dhildish remarks that you appropirate on the board. Where is the moderator to get rid of the Xbox fanboism off this and clean it up to make this a cleaner board for what this site is. A PS3 site not a M$ site for Xbox Freaks... go home, go to work, cry to mommy, or go play your xbox. If you don't like the statements from Sony then who cares. I will enjoy my new system that has the features I will use on a daily basis. I will take 720p and in 6 years should be using my 1080p. Then of course there is the Xbox that only has 3 years and rushed out a system to beat Sony out and now my PS2 has 6 years and still going strong with great new titles still launching for my PS2. Now you waste of space time and me having to scroll through crap Xbox lovers go play your great system and leave us PS3 people alone with our great system. No 2 PCs are the same and no 2 consoles are the same enjoy what you got and shut the heck up. Get over it... nuff said. Waste 323 -
So let me get this rightUnregistered - Xconcepts 05.11.2006 10:34 To everyone that is comparing price, you are actually going to buy the PS3 for the Blueray? Don't get me wrong, I have a decent job a married with kids and don't have my mommy and daddys help, but I will be getting a PS3 to go with my 360. But As I have said before I DON'T CARE ABOUT BLUERAY OR HD-DVD PERIOD!!!! I like to have to choice of adding it on the 360, which I will probably NEVER GET!!! Sony would(will) have sold more units if they offered a system without the Blueray Drive. Really why do you want to spend $40+ for a F'n movie, DVD 9 is good enought if you have a good DVD player and HDTV. Also all this flame war SH*t needs to stop. Sony fans why do you even listen to any of the 360 fans that post stupid sh*t here??? Everyone that posts that garbage is a damn kid. Grow up, get a job buy the system or systems you want have fun. By the way the guy who posted that why would he buy a 360 and get online to hear the same crap he hears here from 360 fans, wouldn't here it. The only sh*t talking you here is from what game you are playing. And Sony might not charge for online play but the game companies will to keep the servers updated. To all the kids that post BS on here to start sh*t, get a life, go ask you mommy or daddy to buy you a system. To all the normal people, I'll see you online somewhere, 360 or PS3. Later 324 -
DoomUnregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.11.2006 10:39 Stay on subject No 1080p for real, read the articles and see the Nvidia standard 7900 GPU You can keep shouting the same things, it doesn't make sense. The Premium 360 costs 400 Euro's, the Premium PS3 costs 600 Euro's. Hardware capabilities about the same, only 360 GPU is special designed with 48 pipelines while the PS3 is a standard one. and with the 500 E/D PS3 you have component, but 1080p will only be put out on the 600 E/D one with HDMI. So what's your point? Blue Ray isn't even a standard yet. So maybe you'll get nothing for a lot of money. I would rather have the choice of HD-DVD or Blue Ray add-on or a third one (two dogs are fighting for the same bone...) then get stuck with an expensive gaming machine and a useless drive which cost so much. For 200 Euro's I can buy a lot of stuff, extra controller, games, and so on for the 360 If one wants the Core without all the stuff, it's a choice. You are not forced to do something as is the case with Sony. You can upgrade with harddrive if one wants, one can get a wireless controller, but if one doesn't care it's ok, if someone doesn't have a HD TV why bother about the cable. Sony instead drops things that can't be upgraded. How on earth are you ever going to sold a HDMI port on you 500 Euro expensive machine after you are dissapointed? Keep on track please, facts. Read the articles, just watch the datastream of 1080p. PS3 can't deliver that. It's upscaled no real resolution. Furthermore: the controller you are also whining about. Idea last minute stolen from Nintendo Revolution/Wii who have the real innovation controller. Copycats always loose. I am really curious if you can calculate in bosses time how much the 7900 standard GPU should put out with 1080p in realtime. Because you simply can't it's a freaking bottleneck, 720p is the max 325 -
320...You are on some good S&*^!!Unregistered - DarkPrinynce 05.11.2006 10:39 I own both xbox and ps2. I must say that your eyes need to be checked. Each system has great graphics ability and playablity. But for you to say that the 360 will be better, maybe, but no one will know until the PS3 is on the shelf. Me personally, I can afford both systems. I have a great job, so money is not much of an issue and I don't have to convince myself. I look at it in a way of getting a cheap blue-ray player with gaming added! I will end up with the 360 too, but I will have a PS3 first. Why, because I am a gamer and dont give a %^&$ about the price, just gameplay. I know sony will deliver, they always do. And for you to say that you can buy a core 360, that is a dumbass move on anybody, because you will end up spending more money on the accessories by themselves rather than get the premium. You will seriously be pushing $800 with everything. And trust me, gaming consoles don't drop price till about 2 to 3 years after they have been out. Its not even 1 year yet for the 360, so keep dreaming. So I will get a PS3 AND BE HAPPY! 326 -
GUnregistered - G 05.11.2006 11:04 read up on what editors on most site think about PS3 http://ps3.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=7019458&publicUserId=5442778 there's more blogs than that. but to sum up what the editors and most of the comments about them say... sony E3 = big disappointment. E3 winners = either 360 or wii. no one thinks sony is having a good show, no gaming site, no one at E3. the only ones who were "blown away" by the E3 conference are the now shrinking fanboy crowd. still don't believe me? just visit any other gaming forum. http://boards.1up.com/zd/board/message?board.id=general&message.id=243249 just browse through them. youll get the point 327 -
Unregistered - Moostache 05.11.2006 11:06 All of you fanboys are pathetic. Whoever the jag-off that posted about 10,000 "Sony Sucks" and another "10,000 Microsoft Swallows" should be shot just for wasting bandwidth for no reason, or at the very least should have his ass tanned by his father's belt for being an ignorant whelp.... Get over it folks....because when it is all said and done HD-DVD AND Blu-Ray are going to go EXACTLY the same route as SACD and DVD-A = the technology scrapheap. No one in mainstream consumerism is even aware of what they ARE, yet alone willing to line up to buy them at ridiculously high early-adopter prices. Most people do not even have HDTV yet, it is less than 20% of all homes in the US and even less worldwide. Most people DO have DVD and 480i capable TVs though. That means that MOST people will have absolutely zero use for Blu-Ray in the next 5-7 years. A "future proofed" game console that is "future proofed" beyond the lifespan of the console is fool's gold people, it is a marketing ruse that so many blind followers have swallowed hook, line and sinker that it boggles the mind. If no one uses a feature, is that feature value added to the consumer or to the companny selling the equipment in the first place? The majority of the market will NOT be switching from DVD to either BD OR HD-DVD in the next 5-7 years because the cost is too high still. When HDTV's are in 75% of homes and when teh average stand alone BD/HD-DVD player is at or below $200, then the HD optical media will really take off, but not before. To believe otherwise is truly mystifying. Where do you believe that the majority of the population is going to get the money to finance such a broad switch over? I know you can't be naive enough to think that just because Sony is hyping BD technology that makes it actually true. *sarcasm* - Of course. What that means pure and simple is this: While Sony is trying to force a $500-$600 console down the consumer's throat to force BD into as many homes as possible to sell more expensive (and Sony controlled)media, Microsoft with be pushing a $300-$400 alternative game console with competitive if not equal graphics and gameplay capability and the OPTION to upgrade to HD-DVD IF the consumer wants to do so. Everything else is quite simply window dressing in this issue. Sony says "Thou Shalt Buy Blu-Ray", Microsoft says "Thou May Choose to Buy HD-DVD". Both consoles will have a ton of great games. Both consoles will have online features (and if Sony doesn't charge for online play then I would be stunned to see MS stay with charging for Live, but hey it could happen - fact is both systems will have it available). Both consoles will be getting hyped for replacement systems by 2010 and by 2012 (or about the time HDTV will be passing the 50-60% overall saturation point) both systems will be going the way of the PS2 and XB into game console history. Again, the topic was not who is better, the topic was Sony's pricing decision and launch date - nothing more. Discussing the merits or demerits of those decisions does not constitute anyone being a Microsft loyalist or anything else for that matter. For the mental midget fanboys, who can't seem to grasp that fact: my condolences to your parents, you must really be a crushing disappointment as a child. I know if you were my children, I would be ashamed of you and of the job I did as a parent. 328 -
@ MatthosUnregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.11.2006 11:10 Ok, then you calculate please for all of us how much bandwith 1080p takes, how much the GPU of the PS3 is capable of transporting then and if that signal also works on the 500 Euro non-HDMI port And let's see if Sony doesn't upscale the 720p games to 1080p which isn't really that resolution then. For sure I know they will. But I am curious who can show us all that 1080p on the final (now happy?!) PS3 GPU is possible, because it can't. It has a bottleneck, just to large datastream 329 -
For those that posted...Unregistered - Gamer 05.11.2006 11:14 actual debate on the subject I appluad you regardless of your loyalties. Thank you for actually debating the article and not throwing crap out there. Just wanted to let it be known that even though I am happy with sonys product and games that I will listen to actual debate. I really enjoy informative posts and a true adult approach to the subject. 330 -
M.A.R.T....Unregistered - solo 05.11.2006 11:35 dude, is your last name kutaragi??? cuz you know more about the consoles, and especially how the ps3 works, than anyone ever.... are you some sort of prodigy in the gaming world that no one knows about?....no, youre not... youre just some loser sitting in the basement of his parents house trying to get a rise out of people by spitting out baised crap that you read somewhere else... seriously bro, if you really had a job, and a life for that matter, you wouldnt have the time to post all those l...o...n...g drawn out BORING posts... oh, and if you disagree with me, than please, explain to me why you are HERE. cuz you obviously hate the ps3 for whatever reason, so why??? why are you here??? no one is going to read your posts and think, " hey, that MART guy really knows his stuff, im going to stop liking sony and get me a 360.".... oh, and for whatever reason, someone were tho think that, what the fu(k is in it for you??? seriously, just stop posting, i dont even want to see you respond to this (unless you say goodbye) because you are just going to post some more baised, angry-fatkid bull$hit.... 331 -
Unregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.11.2006 11:45 Goodbye 332 -
Unregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.11.2006 11:51 Now I said goodbye like you wanted, we can continue to discuss. As is normal in forums like these. The article posts the costs of the console and the spec's with it. Search down the GPU specs and you will discover it's capabilities. And yes, you'll also discover that the GPU cannot produce 1080p for real. If you don't want to hear it, just explain that it can be done. Info about the GPU is widespread and furthermore, I am here because I read so much nonsense. There is nonsense about every console to be found, 360, Wii, but the PS3 is king (as Sony was with PS2 also) in giving false spec's and hope on things that never will be reality. Let's just say it right: CPU of PS3 is slightly more powerfull then the 360 (something positive allright then) but harder to program/master GPU of 360 is slightly more powerfull then the PS3 GPU and even the 360 GPU would have trouble getting 1080p out. So the PS3 GPU certainly can't. Especially when you calculate the datastreams and bottlenecks of that Nvidia 7900. You can get mad, you maybe wan't to shut your eyes, block your ears and start shouting lalalaaaa I don't hear anything but that's so easy. Try to discuss or just say nothing yourself 333 -
What choice M.A.R.T? Unregistered - Doom 05.11.2006 12:20 Ok let's upgrade our core 360 system to the FULL version: $300 core system + $100 (ONE HUNDRED FOCKING DOLLARS!!) for a cheap 20 GB HDD + $40 for a Memory Card (for just saving my focking games) + $50 for a Wireless Controller + $50 a year for live , $250 for 5 years of 360's life cycle = ~ 800 dollars 800 FOCKING DOLLERS!!! ok , now i want to get an hd-dvd add on , at least must be $200 OK...1000 DOLLARS!!!! No thanks, i'll get the 600 dollar PS3 and will be happy. a package with all i want inside. 334 -
Nicely done 333...Unregistered - solo 05.11.2006 13:12 very nicely put, cant say i ever really thought of it that way, but it makes sense... and to M.A.R.T.... man, you need a new cause, cuz your current one is a losing battle... im still not sure why you are here.... and if it is because you are sick of reading false things about the ps3, ummm, STOP READING. 335 -
@ DoomUnregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.11.2006 13:21 Wrong Doom. First the definition of a full system is: I want to buy a game console. Not a future semi-not accepted next gen videoplayer with gaming capability. If I would like to upgrade in the future with a next gen drive, I can choose. And who is saying that it will cost 200 Euro's/Dollars then? No one knows. Maybe that price isn't right. And if Blue Ray would get hot, it could be a Blue Ray add-on. But I doubt it. I play games on my console, watching movies more on other players. For the rest I think fysical media are on the end of their life cycle. Games and other stuff like movies/HD etc. are going to be sold digitally in the future not so far away. No need to go to the store to get a game, just download it and pay in points. No discs that can scratch or lose. So I think getting an expensive drive is stupid first of all. And why are you upgrading a core system? Those are only for people that might not want to upgrade at all. At least they could upgrade, which with the 'cheapest' PS3 is not possible or you are going to sold a HDMI port on it... So let's just take the Premium edition. 400 Euro's that's it. Off you go. With Live silver you can download content from Marketplace and so on. Online gaming cost some money, but roughly it's about 2 or 3 times to see a movie same amount. Who is saying that gaming at PS3 online doesn't cost any money? There is a free service, but it could be much the same as Live Silver. Furthermore, Sony likes the producers of the game itself to arrange the gameservers. You know what is going to happen then? We've seen it with PS2 the online gaming is: 1. Going to s*ck big time 2. Probably the producers of games are going to ask for your credit card because getting servers for online playing for all the time COST MONEY. Nothing is for free. I bet online gaming in the end is or free for PS3 and frustrating or it will cost money which is going to Sony or game producer With the Premium a WiFi controller is included, but it costs 45 Euro's at max. I've seen them for 40 even. And uh, if one has a core with wired controller chosen first I think he isn't into upgrading to WiFi otherwise he would have bought the premium. It's all about choice my friend The memory card? Why for hells sake? The games are also saved to harddrive. And with Live connection I wouldn't have to carry around with memory sticks. So it's choice again. So you are comparing very strangely. You think with 600 Euro's you're done with the PS3 also? Right, see you again when you bought the thing. Paying also for online gaming because otherwise Sony is going bankrupt for sure. Have seen their recent cash balance? 336 -
$70 Blue-Ray Games No ThanksUnregistered - ARIZONA 05.11.2006 13:22 Console $599 Tax $50 = $650 Controller $50 Tax $3 = $53 Two games $130 Tax $10 = $140 Plus I wont be able to walk into a store and pick one up until March 2007!! 337 -
Nice .Unregistered - Sevir04 05.11.2006 13:22 I'm live from E3 everyone and it rocks the atmosphere from e3 is just soo much... the mobs of people trying to play the ps3 and Wii demos are just nuts.. so i just had to talk the time out and browse about on my lap top because i only got to play 4 demos, and just so everyone knows having played Genji 2, and assasins creed, from sony's booth and Super mario galaxy and Metroid prime 3 i must say november is going to be one hell of a time for gamers... In regards to the ps3's pricing it's legit. i figure as much of the #1 company in the digital entertainment market to price the system at that... believe me when i say that this is econmical for... no matter what MS doesn't they cant stop a sell off... The ps3 will sell and both sku's will fly of shells on launch day and week.... it'll be wise for every one to reserve now... because i work at a gamestop and on the launch day of the Xflop 360 there were fights and i had to turn down sad kids who had the money but didn't reserve... at a price like this is feisable... for one the ps3 is coming with the HDD bundle with the the Blu-ray player... if you strip the blu ray player u've got urself a $399 system like the 360... $100-200 more for an add one isn't economical... why would you deprive people from getting having the Hd-Dvd drive from the get go... right now the first Hd-dvd drive cost about 500 by itself.. thats 200 more than the current Xbox the add on function will probably be up to 200 dollars... so $399 plus a $200+ hd dvd drive for a system = the ps3 with a 60 gig hardrive and and Hd cables and what not... also keep in mind that MS has even said they plan on releasing bigger hardrives for the 360... again forcing money out of it's beloved stupid brainwashed consumers... after all they them self said that 20 gigs aint enough to bring the true experience of the 360. so lets see.. MS is already chargin $400 plus tax for a system with an under whelming 20 gigs $60 plus tax games on disc that arent up to par with space. like blu ray $50-60 dollars a year for Xbl and only 1 week of free promos. planning on launching the HD-dvd addon in november for a price from respected hardware analysist of $200-300 dollars and then finally they are palnning on releasing HDDs with greater acpacity to better facilitate the the Xflop experience... which prices might be another $150-200 depending on size capacity of the HDD. really people just how much money are u gonna end up paying to maximize ur experience with a system that doens't really match up with the PS3. money u gotta fork out over a long period of time... aparently Microsoft must think well all have wallets like Bill Gates... all that for a systems at the end of all that brain washed consumers are paying well over $900+ in the life time of a system... not smart or economical at all why when u can get a system for 600 plus tax all xbl services free from get go a 60 gig HDD bundle with the system with ur experience already maximized by the online features thats free... Blu ray player from the get go... so u dont have to spend money on gettin an expensive add on. fast load times because of blu ray... completely fully backward compatible with ps1 and 2 games... psp connectivity.. via formual 1 racing demo. and full HD quality games can anyone say GT4-HD and many more titles aiming for that l\kind of resolution... and a wifi out of the box system from launch so u'll be online from u start up ur system. a tried and true controller from the days of ps1 a company whos track record of success dates as far back as 10 years and still going with the ps2 being the #1 selling and best console in the world with over 100,000,000 units sold... thats really comforting no Gears or War, or Halo3 with xbox live can beat that. if ms think they can win they they better whip japan in shape because japan will be taken by storm this november by both the king, Sony and the runner up Nintendo who's confrence might i add was awesome. so too all who are gonna let MS extort ur pockets for a system that need you to go online and download patches because the system has malfunctions and the games lack completion due to microsoft's choice to rush out because they wanted to beat sony and nintendo... hah right. thats perfectly fine... but i'd rather pay once and get all feature at an economical price for a system that has a track record of sucess. i wont have to worry about having to update anything because the company was smart on waiting and refining the system... games will be much better because they will have had six months of development on the final versions of the Dev kits. all that for $600+ tax i'm all for it... thats why we got the release info here at E3 so we can start saving and reserving so when the games are released world wide.. might i add regional free coding... thank u god for blu ray, we can all get a few games and then be online line with or buddies right from the get go at launch... i for one will see u all there because november is gonna be big... both Ps3 and Wii... i cant wait... ps: make sure u reserve now so u wont have to be one of the sad kids that gets turned down because u may have the money but no reservation because a shortage is enevitable... 338 -
Moving on up!!!BOSS 05.11.2006 13:32 Atleast you can upgrade Xbox core. You cant do that with ps3 core. 339 -
sony Lies to all of usBOSS 05.11.2006 13:40 Release in Spring 2006 = Lie Twice as powerful as Xbox360 = Lie Two HDMI output = Lie They said Killzone was real time gameplay = Lie Ken K. says ps3 can sprout wings and fly = True 340 -
@377 Well saidUnregistered - Gamer 05.11.2006 13:42 Got to give you props on your theory there. I will have to say I don't really like the Wii but it seems to be a very popular console with all the reviews I have read. I can't get into the motion thing but maybe sony will cure me but I am a little old fashion in that gaming sense. Xbox 360 is a solid system for gamers also but will not offer the titles I am interested in. Everyone please enjoy your system that are xbox fans here (why are you here no clue). Also I do want to use my HD TV more and will want the BD-Ray for my movie experience so my choice is clear. I disconnected my 6 disc dvd player because I use my pc and PS2 for movie watching more than I used my dvd player. So to sum it up there is a system out for every type of gamer or multimedia freak out there. Enjoy your system as I know I will enjoy mine in November. 341 -
377 was supposed to be 337Unregistered - Gamer 05.11.2006 13:44 sorry about that 342 -
lolUnregistered - lol 05.11.2006 14:19 lol. this is what a developer for ps3 says about it: "So I was playing with one of SCE's first party games when a guy asked me if I had any questions about the game. I did, of course, and we talked a bit about them, very light and idle conversation. After a bit I realized that I was playing the PS3 game from a controller wired through the wall, and I asked where the final units were. He seemed a bit nervous, but explained that the games were running on dev kits. I asked if anything was running on final hardware and was shocked when he said in a somewhat lower voice, "there is no final hardware. We have no idea and no projections on when it will be ready". I was surprised, of course, and commented that it seemed strange to not even have a projection so close to launch, which he agreed with rather enthusiastically. We continued talking and I asked why tilting the controller didn't seem to affect the game I was playing, and he said that it was simple: The only game on the floor with gyroscope controllers is Warhawk, and at that the devs didn't know about the gyroscopic controller until *FRIDAY*, at which point they had to spend the weekend coding to make Warhawk more or less work with it. Having played WH, I can tell you that's believable: the controls are PAINFULLY clunky and barely seem to work at all. Moreover, the analog sticks are disabled entirely. Anyway, he went on to say that he didn't know anything about the controller until the PRESS CONFERENCE on Monday. Yeah, an SCE developer didn't know about it! He confirmed that it's not part of the PS3 spec or dev kit or documentation to date. He said that the game he was working on would *not* support the tilting feature because it was simply too late in the dev process to implement it in any meaningful way. We talked a little more, and he asked if I was going to post any of this to my site, and I said that I was very interested in doing so. He mentioned that he pretty much likes his job and wouldn't want to be quoted (given that Sony tends to fire employees who speak up). I told him no problem, and even promised not to ask his name (his badge was facing backwards anyway, LOL). I asked him some questions about several other PS3 games, and finally came to it: Why don't the PS3 games on the show floor look better than 360 games? He grinned a bit and said he'd been asked that question all day long, and I laughed a bit and asked again. In a slightly quieter voice he said simply, "I wouldn't expect them to ever look any better than 360 games. There's only so much you can do with a given piece of hardware, and while the games will improve over the life of the system it will always be in the same range as 360 will. It's just the way the hardware is". 343 -
Unregistered - jjesso 05.11.2006 14:20 just thought if you buy ps3 from usa its cheaper than buying from uk because if you convert the dollers it comes to £317 but if you convert the eruros its £410 and to get uk price they normaly convert the eruos. 344 -
#343Unregistered - haha 05.11.2006 14:25 do u have brains at all??? 345 -
#333 ps3 is not a better bargain im sorry!Unregistered - ee 05.11.2006 15:09 Yes the core is 300 but you have a choice of upgrading either 360 console! 1.If you were to buy the hardrive then there would be no reason to buy a memory card! 2. you can buy a 90 day 6 month or 1 year subcription to xboxlive and even get a free three month from time to time and after you've tryed it trust me you wont mind paying for it! 3. Since your already on xboxlive why would you need a second controller when you could play with friends online and have the screen to yourself! The 360 is all about choice and no matter how you try and look at it the price is cheaper than ps3 by far! 346 -
new news stories don't come much?Unregistered - matt 05.11.2006 15:41 i always pop in to see what sony is up to. i love gaming and any to do with it. but news stories are hard to come by on sony's site. the amount of post on this one is proof. any way i am concerned about everyone thinking they will not be paying for online play with the ps3. read this, it makes sense. "Does Sony's announcement that they won't charge a subscription fee on their online service put pressure on you to follow suit on Live? Well, on Xbox Live Silver you can do anything except play multiplayer. What Sony has actually announced is that they're pushing the emphasis to the publishers to figure out what they want to charge. They have said, "we're not going to charge you" - but if you truly believe that the publishers are going to build data centres, build user interfaces, network stacks, run bandwidth costs, egress costs, do compatibility with every provider around the world... For free?" 347 -
this is a bad coreUnregistered - badkolo 05.11.2006 15:47 The two machines do have significant differences. The $599 model offers a 60 GB hard drive. The $499 model has only a 20 GB hard drive and also lacks wi-fi capabilities, a memory card reader and an HDMI output for newer high definition televisions."We felt that if you want to save something on your Memory Stick, most people have those readers on their PC, which is easily adaptable to the PlayStation 3 with a USB cord," said Hirai. "The only difference is HDMI – and at this point, I don't think many people's TV's have that. Thats the boss over at sonys words. so i gues that core system is garbage. 348 -
online service for freeUnregistered - tj 05.11.2006 15:50 Does Sony's announcement that they won't charge a subscription fee on their online service put pressure on you to follow suit on Live? "Well, on Xbox Live Silver you can do anything except play multiplayer. What Sony has actually announced is that they're pushing the emphasis to the publishers to figure out what they want to charge. They have said, "we're not going to charge you" - but if you truly believe that the publishers are going to build data centres, build user interfaces, network stacks, run bandwidth costs, egress costs, do compatibility with every provider around the world... For free?" i didn't think about that matt. good point. well it will still be a good service. 349 -
online serviceUnregistered - mike 05.11.2006 16:18 i guess M$ 49.99 a year dosen't sound that bad after all (and that is to play, everything else is free). Man, if you had a libary full of PS3 games and have to pay for each one to play online...that could get expensive. that sucks! they better figure something out...i would rather pay a small yearly fee than pay for each game monthly. 350 -
@ M.A.R.TUnregistered - Doom 05.11.2006 16:59 i just wanted to tell you that what a rip off that core 360 system is. if you want to upgrade it to the full system like the ps3, it'll cost an arm and a leg. but the core ps3 is nice, you won't be missing anything gaming-wise, the hdd is there, the same controller is there, the hd component cable is there... the gaming experience is the same. this is not the case with the 360 premium and core. about the price , you guys need to stop whining. it won't hurt the ps3 sales 'cause the fanbase is huge and the hardcore fans are too many. sony will sell all the ps3s it can produce because the demand will be crazy. if you don't buy it at launch another one does. but starting from 2nd quarter of 2007 they will lower the price. cell and rsx will be shrinked to 65 nano and later to 45 nano and also bluray will get cheap. then they can lower the price to $400 and $300. price won't cause a problem for sony. 351 -
Unregistered - Fact! 05.11.2006 17:10 when games were still running on PowerMac-based development kits with only 25 per cent of the power of the final hardware. That's right the PS3 games are only showing 25% of there final hardware so xbox fanboys are in for a fright! 352 -
@M.A.R.TUnregistered - Doom 05.11.2006 17:11 ok i made a mistake there. you don't need a memory card and hdd toghether BUT you'll need to pay $40 for hd component cables that are absent in the core 360 system. so, the overall price is the same. and if you think the hd-dvd add-on will cost less than $200 you're dreaming buddy. when those thieves from MS are selling you a cheap 20 GB hdd for $100, how can you expect their hd-dvd add-on to be less than $200? the core ps3 system is a great deal unlike the core 360 system. 353 -
^^^im with you bro^^^.......YO XBUG,READ THIS!!!Unregistered - blaze33 05.11.2006 17:14 Building motion sensing hardware into the pad, however, gives Sony something on the gaming front that Microsoft quite distinctly does not have. That's a vitally important factor, when you take it in light of the conventional industry wisdom which says that nearly every game developed by a third-party publisher in the coming years will be cross-platform on both Xbox 360 and PS3, with little to choose between the two in terms of features and functionality. Suddenly, developers will be dreaming up titles with control mechanisms which either won't work on the Xbox 360, or will be stripped down to run on the 360 without the motion sensing technology; it's not the end of cross-platform development, of course, but it's certainly a positive in Sony's column when consumers come to choosing which version of a game to buy, or more importantly, which consoles they'd like to play their cross-platform titles on. the new game pad...blu-ray player...great exclusive games...these kind of stuff that will lead sony in this game industry... im not a fanboy(still didnt deside which system im gonna get)....but im just saying that FACT :) 354 -
TO ALLUnregistered - OneLiveCell 05.11.2006 17:17 the ps3 is going to be great, its gonna have the best games ever, and it has the best specs ever!.... AND MOST OF ALL, THE POWER PLUG WONT BE THE SIZE OF A CITY... sony's consoles dont requiere and entire power plant to get things started PS3 ALL THE WAY! HAIL TO THE KING, BABY 355 -
Microsoft's Peter Moore is telling gamers to buy the Nintendo Wii!Unregistered - Rock On! 05.11.2006 17:20 Link: http://www.clubskill.com/Game_News/3445/Peter%20Moore%20Tells%20Gamers%20to%20buy%20the%20Wii QUOTE: "Tell me why you would buy a $600 PS3? People are going to buy two [machines]. They're going to buy an Xbox and they're going to buy a Wii ... for the price of one PS3." THE BOTTOM LINE: Sony will lose their top spot in every market outside of Japan because the price doesn't justify the purchase, given the alternatives available in the Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii! DETAILED ANALYSIS... 1) Blue Ray is relatively useless from a games perspective: http://www.gamesfirst.com/?id=1132 2) The Cell CPU will not give the PS3 any advantage: http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2006/04/30/ps3-smoke-and-mirrors-ibm-specs/ http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/power/library/pa-cellperf/?ca=drs-#table4 http://ps3.qj.net/Inside-the-PS3-s-Operating-System-/pg/49/aid/21047 3) Every tech-e knows that the Xenos GPU is an entire generation ahead of the RSX, given that it is: 40% more efficient and marginally more powerful at running current-generation game engines; Windows Graphic Foundation 2.0 compliant with future versions of Direct X and shader models; 256Gbps bandwidth, free 4x antialiasing, ...I mean seriously don't even compare the two. 4) HD-DVD is better than Blue Ray (especially as a purchase OPTION): http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/events/e32006/articles/20060507-hddvdexplained.htm 356 -
InterestingUnregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.11.2006 17:24 Quit interesting the latest posts, also about the guy that was playing on the Sony stand and been answered by a Sony guy about the fact that all the stuff was still running on kits that were not final devkits... @ Doom Well ofcourse if someone would like to pay 600 Euro's for about the same graphics as the 360 has, be my guest. For the same price you can get a XBOX 360 and a Nintendo Wii I bet even the hardest Sony fans are thinking about that. Now that GTA4 is on the 360 also from day one and even have exclusive downloadable extra content it is more and more an option for sure. Maybe one hangs on MGS4, but for every game there is a substitute. Anyone who is saying they buy a PS3 because of the Blue Ray player is lying a bit. A console is bought to play games, that should be the first and foremost reason. And when you than check you can get the 360 and the Wii for the price of one PS3... It's not a that difficult choice anymore 357 -
people will get the 499$ NOT THE 600$Unregistered - blaze33 05.11.2006 17:29 THERE IS NO REAL DIFFRENT....YO'KNOW 358 -
$599!!!!!!!!Unregistered - PS3 Fan boy 05.11.2006 17:31 Please give me a reason why I should spend $599 on this over hyped video game system? I couldn't tell the difference between game shots of Xbox 360 and PS3. I think I am going to just buy a Xbox 360 and three game tonight. If I buy a PS3 I would have to spend about $800 to $900 just to get started. 359 -
@ # 253 of DoomUnregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.11.2006 17:38 Why would anyone buy a core system and then upgrade? One buys a core system, because he/she has an old TV (no HDTV), no internet/doesn't want to download, etc. Core systems are there just for the choice and to make the Premium deal look better, as wel as at MS as is with Sony. It's just marketing to push people to the other deal which looks like a bargain. So no-one will really buy the core system. And if one buys, it is a well choice probably. Upgrading in the future is possible. And I wouldn't call a 500 dollar/euro machine a bargain if there is a Blue Ray player on board, which can't fully be used when the HDMI port is missing. And why I think the HD-DVD add-on will be cheaper then 200 dollar/euro? This is my theory: The hard drive of 20 GB is priced 100 dollar/euro because it's in the strategy of getting a really good deal with a premium. Core+seperate HD is price of Premium and look what you get even more then. The HD-DVD drive has not such marketingreasons behind it. MS has great interest in succes of the HD-DVD format, because it would kill Sony's Blue Ray if HD-DVD is accepted before BR. Not even only for that format, but also for the sales of the yes... PS3. If they push the HD-DVD hard, by having agressive pricing for the 360 add-on, just before the launch of the PS3 it will get people that search for a HD format thinking of buying a 360 more. That's just a theory but I really think it will go that way. Price I expect is somewhere around 150 or 160 Dollars/Euro's maximum. Core systems are never a great deal. Only the Premiums really are. And expect the Core/Premium 360 to be lowered in price when the PS3 is launched. So the difference will even be larger, Premium somewhere around 349 Dollar/Euro and the Core 249 instead of 299, compare 249 Euro/Dollar for the comparable graphics like PS3 for 500 Euro's, it's twice as much then. And so much buyers are moms and dads. They'll look in their wallets and say: I won't be that stupid, I can get two for the price of one other... 360 -
i disagree MARTUnregistered - Doom 05.11.2006 17:48 that's only your opinion. 1- may be ps3 and 360 have the same shader capabiliy but ps3 has a great advantage in physics and polygon processing power (cell cpu). that's why you don't see and probably won't see a game like MGS4 or FF13 on the 360. it's not all about shaders. if you use only shaders in your games it'll look like plastic. there is not a single 360 title like MGS4 with that huge number of polygons for a single character. 2- nintendo Wii is a gimmick for 10 year old kids, don't even bring it to this discussion. 3- ps3 has exclusive titles that you can't play on other systems, simple as that. you can't say : i'll buy a wii or 360 and play ff13 on it. 361 -
EARTH TO M.A.R.T.Unregistered - solo 05.11.2006 18:13 it is extremely presumptious of you to say that people wont by the ps3 just for the blu-ray... I know a few people personally that said they will buy it soley for the blu-ray drive, because it is gonna be much cheaper than to buy a blu-ray alone... oh, and some of these people have a xbox 360 and they dont even like sony... so dont go and assume that blu-ray wont sell the ps3, cuz it already has started to... and imagine how many more will buy it when blu-ray wins the format war(which unless youre denial is most certainly gonna happen, especially after the ps3 is released). 362 -
Microsoft is courting Metal Gear Solid 4 ---- expect an announcement soon?Unregistered - Hippi Coolness 05.11.2006 18:33 Link: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/707/707918p1.html If this happens then Sony's Jak and Daxter will justify the price right? right? Are there any Playstation fans still out there? Echo ..................................Echo 363 -
LOL!! Dream on kidUnregistered - Doom 05.11.2006 18:49 Kojima won't jump to that sh!t pool, never. it's a joke for you sad Xbug owners. perhaps he makes something for xbug 1.5 in distant future but not soon, and that won't be MGS4 'cause the xbug 1.5 doesn't have the power. you'd better stick to your crappy xbug games. 364 -
Ps3 Is Good Unregistered - pS34Free 05.11.2006 19:59 Man all this talk about PS3 is crazy look sony told us last E3 about killzone and and the two HDMI ports and the new controller and this E3 they delivered. They gave us a playable KillZone :) , the 2 HDMI ports :) , not to mention the new boomerang controller :) Oh and last but not least they also promised us only one sku for everyone :) , so trust them when they say their live service is going to be FREE :P And stop hating all you jealous XbotFans 365 -
lolUnregistered - lool 05.11.2006 20:07 you're so stupid. read before you post such a crap. kojima already said that the 360 could do mgs4. you're so stupid it hurts. 366 -
And they all thought I was crazyUnregistered - Jarhead 05.11.2006 21:55 You know that feeling you get when you lean back on a chair and you think your going to fall but you dont.....thats how I feel about the PS3 price tag.....I guess the only color they care about is green.....or maybe im just crazy. 367 -
Yes ....the price is highUnregistered - Devil Dog 05.11.2006 22:00 Wow the PS3 its pretty cheap ....its a good thing my son doesnt know ive been saving him money to go to college... I think i'll spend it on the PS3 instead....hope he can forgive me. 368 -
former questionmark 05.11.2006 22:44 kojima stated he plans to make games for all 3 systems. he just isn't going to make the same game on multiple systems. he wants to fully maximize the power of each without having to change code and do all sorts of things differently. i personally don't care for the metal gear series, but at least kojima puts full effort into his work unlike some devs. and the only feature you lose with the 360 core is backwards compatibility and hi def cables. if you need that stuff, you'll get the pro. i'm just wondering why the features need to be taken out of the ps3 "core". does the hard drive contain something that makes them function? 40 more gigs of space itself i feel would justify to most people the price difference. but minus everything else, i don't know. appears though, that both sony and ms have plans of working around hdmi. that is unless hollywood gets their way. 369 -
PAUL CERULA 05.11.2006 23:44 PRICE... Let me break it down for you. The problem here is that the 40gb difference is a sign that you'll need your hard drive more than ever if your an average gamer. No way would Sony just toss away 100 bucks revenue for a smaller hard drive. They're in the hole big time for blu-ray. Also in the GT4 HD part the dev. said that the hard drive would have to download campaign maps, races, etc to make load times. Hello...isn't this what the Blu-ray was meant to do. And considering their confidence in people buying a 60gb pack it's clear your hard drive will be used a lot. And that some people won't be able to do with just a 20gb. MARKET REACTION...(not everybody's like you) Blu-ray...HD video for 600 bucks. Ask yourself how many people even know about HD-DVD or Blu-ray.....OR EVEN HDTV. How many are going to dive in fists full of cash to get HD quality. The fact is that more than 95% of consumers don't have an HDTV so why would any of them give a flying %#$@ about blu-ray? With that in mind who's gonna look at PS3 titles and say it's worth the 200 dollar difference. And all of us should by know accept that both systems are very close in power. IBM inspected the Cell CPU and said it was 75.9% yielding....not 2 teraflops. http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/power/library/pa-cellperf/?ca=drs-#table4 http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2006/04/30/ps3-smoke-and-mirrors-ibm-specs/ http://ps3.qj.net/Inside-the-PS3-s-Operating-System-/pg/49/aid/21047 And for months know we all know and accept that the PS3's GPU is simply a NVIDIA's 7900 series. And because of that the Xbox 360's Xenos GPU is more way more powerful. In fact its stated not to be matched by PC's until late 2006. That's like a 1 year better GPU...A YEAR EARLIER. so put one and one together and you get...PS3 GPU AND CPU ARE LESS POWERFUL How will more than 95% of consumers get the nerve to spend 600 bucks on a Blu-ray format they can't even utilize? Right now the only possible feature keeping Sony alive is their library of farmiliar games and ignorant consumers. ONLINE Also about free online, all Sony did was leave it up to the developers to charge people online fees because their the ones making it. If you truly believe that the publishers are going to build data centres, build user interfaces, network stacks, run bandwidth costs, egress costs, do compatibility with every provider around the world... For free, your crazy? It could even cost more than 50 bucks every 13 months. BOTTOMLINE I'm not hyped easily. If you can't believe IBM and countless other developers about the truth of the two consoles your in for a big surprise. If you like the games fine, but just accept that your getting an inferior peice of hardware with the exception of Blu-ray. But that doesn't matter to the 90% of the market. This round Nintendo went below standards, MS went right on, and PS3 went way over. Blu-ray may be worth it to you unquestionably but it doesn't appeal to the bulk market. You need to think outside of your lust to get the real picture of how this will play out. I'M NO FANBOY, I'm a truth-boy how much truth can you handle... 370 -
MGS4 on Xflop 360... right when Air conditioner gets installed in hellUnregistered - Sevir 05.11.2006 23:45 to that person who said MGS4 is making it's way on 360... i eblieve u have lost it. thats like saying mario galaxy is gonna be ported on to PS3... Kojima has already said it himself that the title is a PS3 exclusive... i think what the article said was MS is courtin MGS developer for the 360 which isn't a bad idea.. they need all the help they can get... because nintedo has already enlist kojima on board the Wii hense the reason why Snake is a playable Character on Smash bro. brawl... ^^ i cant wait... but on a note pertaining to that flippin ridiculous comment... u'll never see an MGS title on that flop of an so called wanna be excuse of a system... MGS4 can be ran on the 360 but the frame rate will be slow and the game will lag... why do u think he created it on the PS3... it's heritage with sony is so good and it sells... the incusion of blu ray having space almost 6 times the space of dual layered dvds makes for not having to compress game data and more space to include extras... like regional coding for worldwide releases of video games... there is noway the 360 can toss around that kind of raw power and have frame rates to match... it just cant... note u'll see a kojima production game on the Xflop 360, and the Nintendo Wii, but MGS4 stays on the PS3 and all other games within it's franchise... psp and ps2s alike. so guy when the devil himself visitates you and lets you know that hell is a place filled with snowy hills and eskimos, let us know... 371 -
sevirformer questionmark 05.12.2006 01:17 he's already said himself he plans to make games for all 3. as far as metal gear, he probably won't make one for the 360. it sells better on playstation. most die hard xbox fans would probably prefer the splinter cell series. i personally don't like the metal gear series for one because of the camera (which they finally fixed in subsistence)second (which is a main reason i don't like most ps2 games) is that i don't want to sit through 10 cutscenes before i play a game. if i want to watch a movie, i'll pop in a dvd. just my personal opinion, and i'm not saying anyone else shouldn't like it. kojima simply likes to put full effort in his products, which i don't think is ever truly done on multiplatform titles. very rarely anyway. 372 -
$$Unregistered - Hi 05.12.2006 02:01 ?369 great point, 95% of people don’t have HDTV so why would they want a blue-ray player. I appreciate ms for offering an add on HD-DVD player instead of forcing ever one to shell out 200 bucks to have the HD-DVD player built in to the console. I am a gamer so I buy consoles to play game not watch movies. I have never watched a movie on my xbox or ps2, and I probably won’t start with the next gen consoles either. I am very excited about the ps3 but I might have to stick with the Wii and 360, and wait for the ps3 to drop it’s price. sorry sony, I still love you. 373 -
Unregistered - Snadeau 05.12.2006 02:22 WOW.....READ 369...HE'S GOT THE TICKET 374 -
Unregistered - 369 05.12.2006 02:23 #369, yah i guess your right but I'm still getting a PS3 and 360. Forget that Wii crap it'll be outdated in a year. THANKS CERULA 375 -
how much truth can u handle..Unregistered - truth 05.12.2006 04:05 we're not ignorant.. we juz prefer ps3.. no reason watsoever.. we prefer.. 376 -
everybody...READ THISUnregistered - blaze33 05.12.2006 06:29 The PS3 may be worth $499 but it's only $100 more than the 360 Premium Pack (And hey, It has a BD-ROM Player + everything you get with 360). Online Play is free on the PS3. There is so much demand for it , that Sony has made a wise decision to sell the initial few PS3s at high prices. They make less loss on each PS3 they sell... And about the 2 pricing plans OR they PS3 button in the center OR the motion sensitivity, those are really just generic ideas..... not even that big a deal..... Does 360 Premium Pack have Wi-Fi? HDMI? Bluetooth? PS3 will have a component HD-AV cable just like 360 Premium pack (Or you could buy one aftermarket) so you have HD If you don't want all that... just get the $500 PS3 ... It has more stuff than the X360 premium Pack!!!! 377 -
i really want powerful but simple consolesUnregistered - manuel267 05.12.2006 07:47 seriously. Who is going to use all these multimedia functions. Blu-ray this, Wi-fi that, HDMI bla bla bla. the first thing i'll do when i get ps3 is play the games, and that's all i'll do. I've got a nice DVD player downstairs and an i pod to listen to my music, also got bluetooth, so why do i need all this mumblo jumblo, unecessary features. Obviously i'm getting a core ps3 at launch and i am proud of it. If it was my choice, i'd strip even more stuff from the sexy grill core system, so the price could be lowered. i am a gamer at heart, that is what a videogame console is for; unfortunately, with each generation of next gen systems, they will just become more complicated with more useless and development consuming media features to give the unified entertainment 'vision' that sony and microsoft share. i love sony, but if the Wii stopped producing kids games then i would get that, purely for its desirable simplicity. 378 -
How Does????Unregistered - Xconcepts 05.12.2006 07:57 The $500 PS3 have more than the 360? No WIFI either, use wireless adapter anyways. OK so it has Bluray, can I really use the full potential without HDMI, NNNNOOOOO!!! So spend $100 more for bluray that can't be used to its full potential, and no dual shock. Not really. Don't get me wrong I've got the PS3 reserved already, #5 baby, but it will go right on ebay. I'll pickup one when the price drops. 379 -
no rumble feature on ps3 controllerUnregistered - norumbleonps3 05.12.2006 08:35 NO rumble feature on ps3 controller, now watch the sony fanboys say they never liked the rumble feature on the controller in the firsat place. u losers 380 -
E3 Unregistered - truth-be-told 05.12.2006 08:45 Virtua Tennis 3: Awesome. We're big fans of Sega's arcade racquet-em-up, and this looks like being the best version of it yet. Again, there is nothing new here apart from some shiny graphics. Unfortunately for Sony, Sega were showing off the game on the Xbox 360 on its own stand, and it actually looked better than the PS3 version. http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/05/11/ps3_playtest/ 381 -
Core is good for average gamersUnregistered - boba bui 05.12.2006 09:06 HDMI not neccessary Although in the near future 1020p tv will be able to produce the stated quality, in a average TV (32" or below), from what I have read from consumer reports is not noticible from the 720p/1020i hdtv's on the market today. So unless you have thousands of dollars to spend a huge TV with state of the art features its not a big deal to not have HDMI. If you luckly and plan on getting a home entertainment set up with a huge screan then def. get the premiun but most will be fine with core. 20 gigs fine It takes little space to save the info from games on HDD. 20 gigs will be fine for gaming even if the system uses half of that space. If you want to have a ton of songs, download a lot of stuff, and don't ever earase old game info then you might want to upgrade. Avg. gamers will be fine with 20 gigs No wifi oh well Most people's tv are located right next to the cable hookup, therefore having the modem and running a short wire will be fine for internet. If this isn't the case then either a cheap long wire, upgrade, or buy a wifi conection. It probably wont be very expensive to buy a third party wifi connection. Wifi is really the only thing missing from the core package that I would wont but I'll get along fine without it. Core is the winner 360 premium is good too but I think I'm going to get a PS3, both systems have great games, I'm glad GTA4 will be out for everyone... In 2 years both 360 and ps3 will have a Wiimote out on the market...(just a prediction) 382 -
Unregistered - PS3 Elitist! 05.12.2006 09:49 PS3 is going to be brilliant, the fact is most of the games were all half finished so when they are finished they will look everybit as good as the trailers last year! Bring on Killzone I SAY! 383 -
no rumble but stolen Wii concept...Unregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.12.2006 10:08 So the magic rumble is gone which Sony fans didn't like ofcourse they now say uhu and the movement sensors are suddenly IT, but they're not as hot as the Wii concept. It look just like Sony boss at last momento thought: oh hell I've got to do something all Japanese like strange things it's not about good graphics it's where the Japanse jurk off on. That's less beautifull graphics, but strange stuff Let's copycat as hell a few days before the E3 so it all looks more sh*tty, buggy and no devkit 6 months before the so called maybe launch then ever! Great Sony go on, you'll lose fans every day 384 -
60gb or 20 gbUnregistered - XoC 05.12.2006 10:22 Is 60 GBs necessary or is 20 GB good enough to play games? 385 -
20 gigs is fine for playing gamesUnregistered - boba bui 05.12.2006 10:56 phil harrison said 20 gigs will be enough to play all games but if you want to download a bunch of music, trailors, and extra's you might look to 60 gigs...It is a computer HDD, therefore if for some strange reason 20gigs wasn't enough you can upgrade!!! 386 -
idiot #298Unregistered - monolith 05.12.2006 11:51 ur an idiot people have known about the ps3 for almost a year i dont know where you been but wow if you just here about a ps3 your an idiot please some one look at #298 and tell if you think he/shes an idiot 387 -
nopeUnregistered - monolith 05.12.2006 12:01 no #369 your not a truth boy your a preacher shut up and let ppl make there own decisions 388 -
This guy knows what he's talking about!Unregistered - That 1 guy 05.12.2006 12:48 "364 - Ps3 Is Good Unregistered - pS34Free 05.11.2006 19:59 Man all this talk about PS3 is crazy look sony told us last E3 about killzone and and the two HDMI ports and the new controller and this E3 they delivered. They gave us a playable KillZone :) , the 2 HDMI ports :) , not to mention the new boomerang controller :) Oh and last but not least they also promised us only one sku for everyone :) , so trust them when they say their live service is going to be FREE :P" -------------------------------------------------- Hahaha I love sarcasm don't you? 389 -
LOSERS OF THE WEEKBill Gates 05.12.2006 12:58 All you 360 fanboys are so nervous. I mean look at all of you coming to this site and jumping on every post made and either acting like know-it-alls or just acting like morons. You are all so PATHETIC sore LOSERS who just can't stand the fact that Sony has the better system this time around and Microsoft has let you all down. LOSERS OF THE WEEK (in no particular order seing as they are all #1 in the (pecial Olympics) Chaos73- This makes you about 33 years of age still living in your parents basement with no life WHAT SO EVER!!!LOSER PAUL CERULA- aka SPARTAN OF 777, the retarted brother of Chaos73. This guy thinks he knows everything (literaly). In reality he doesn't know JACK SH!T. He will try and justify everyone of his moronic posts. BIASED PRICK. DarkLegacy- The little brother of the two retards. This guy will no doubt have no social life just like his two older dumb dip s)-(it brothers. LOSER Jr. have a nice day guys :) 390 -
you Sony boys crack me up!!!!!!speedracer 05.12.2006 12:59 I just cant believe it, you guys are blind fools, for real.Sony promised you guys the "Emotion Engine" and you bought it till you realized it was crap.Then they gave you all these great specs on the ps3 and you rejoyced. "Under promise and over deliver" is what there man said? Right?. You saw the movie for "Killzone"and you all went to bed dreaming about playing it as a multiplayer live game then Sony started to do wat they do sooooo well, over promise and under deliver. No 2 hdmi hookups, launch delay (and dont expect to get a PS3 before 07 because a friend who works for Sony told me only 500,000 will launch in the U.S) Hardly ANY games ready at E3? all were 50% or lower and soooooo many titles will be on both systems! Oh, shoot by the way WHERE WAS KILLZONE? Did you see it? I didnt. hmmmm. My question for all you Sony "Fan boys" is simple Why? Why do you let this company do this to you and still keep comming back for more? And you have the nerve to even play it up like Sony is soooo good to you!!! I guess it really sucked too when you guys found out GTA would now be on both systems,that had to hurt. Granted M.S. is no angel (no s#!}) but seriously, you Sony boys crack me up!!!!! 391 -
ADD THIS TO POST # 389Bill Gates 05.12.2006 13:26 I forgot to mention their father The M.A.R.T.- More like the dumb bald scalp LOSER who really thinks he knows everything. Get a life dude. Of the almost 400 post, you own almost 1/3 of them, and they are all pure garbage. You make no sence, and no one care what you have to say. PS3 will be a better value than the 360 hands down you LOSER. Oh...wait a secon we have a new comer to the family. Speedracer- Are you sure you just don't have some some of Hyper Activity Disorder. You'll never own a PS3 because your biased parents are too stupid. Too bad for you MORON. 392 -
Bill Gatesformer questionmark 05.12.2006 13:49 some people just don't understand the notion that this all comes down to personal choice. you personally prefer what sony offers compared to microsoft. it's that simple. some people may be swayed by the words or posts of others, but only some. i personally go by what i like and see for myself. you also seem to be the type of person that doesn't base his/her decisions on what other people do. in the end, all that matters, is what an individual wants. plain and simple. if you don't want something, you don't have to buy it. it's fine to comment on things and express your feelings, but the only time someone is stupid for buying a product is when THEY are not happy with it. not because someone else thinks it sucks. if we all got rid of things we personally didn't like, there wouldn't be much left in the world. 393 -
In a pathetic attempt...Unregistered - Pathetic 05.12.2006 13:54 to win over PS3 players to get a Xbox or to make themselves better about having an Xbox already; the XBOX Fans; come here screaming, crying, whining, complaining, name calling, and etc. On a PS3 site. I mean WTF is wrong with you people. Xbox is wonderful PS3 sucks... get over it.. you're just trying to justify why your impatience to have a new system you could not wait for a good system to come out. The price is too high. I guess I will never see you at Fudruckers then.. thats a relief. Stick to McDonalds, Burger King, and Wendys (all really good companies) that produce a burger. But I want more burger. A better burger and I am willing to spend the extra money to enjoy a better quality product. When in a hurry of course I won't mind getting a plain burger from the fast food commercial chains but what I really want is the real deal. So being envious you Xbox fans come here throw your Wendy's (etc.) burgers at us expecting us to jump ship when all we really want is a good quality burger and to be able to enjoy the other products we have. Now this analogy may be a little hard for you that are limited in vocabulary or brains to know the difference but this is how I see it. Quit your crying cause you feel inadequate for numerious reasons to the PS3 still coming out on top. Take your xbox and enjoy it love it fondle it or whatever just get out of the PS3 boards or talk facts and not this crap that is so biased cause you believe everything Bill Gates and the M$ company shoves down your throat. Heck even I don't believe everything Sony pushes down mine but I know what gaming system I want and I will enjoy my purchase as you should be doing right now with yours. Peace out 394 -
former questionmark 05.12.2006 14:01 i like don & millies double cheeseburger myself. 395 -
ps3 all the wayUnregistered - chris 05.12.2006 14:03 i am a fan of playstation and xbox but i dont go around try to start flame wars first i think ps3 is better then xbox 360 i saw the trailer for halo 3 and i thought that it was the greastest game to be made then i saw mgs4 and that blows it out of the water no offense to anyone and i think the 600 euro price is quite cheap for ps3 with a 60gb hard drive with it and a blu ray player in it and a location free player in it as well and psp connections in it i will be lining up to get my one then later get the xbox 360 396 -
don & millies?Unregistered - Pathetic 05.12.2006 14:08 Where's that at or the state it's in. I travel on occasion and if it's a really good burger joint I would like to try it out. I love a good juicy thick burger and willing to pay for it too :) 397 -
former questionmark 05.12.2006 14:14 i live in bellevue, ne. i'm sure it's in more places. might be a midwest thing. not sure. 398 -
PAUL CERULA 05.12.2006 15:39 WOW, you guys avoid truth at all costs (monolith, bill gates) NO ONE HAS REBUTTLED MY FACTS AND REALISTIC APPROACHES. Fanboys only come back and say I don't believe you cause I want PS3 to be awesome no matter how true you are. Fanboys NAME CALL to compensate for their lack of argument against what I say. Fanboys call anything against Sony's master plan an act of bias and heresy. IF IT'S FACTS FANBOYS AVOID THEM BY CALLING THEM BIAS OPINIONS. Bill gates you take all these characteristics, congrats. Reading your posts are like getting a response from a 13 year old who's just got smacked down in an argument and mutters words to himself about that person -- those are your posts how much truth can you handle... 399 -
Ok PaulUnregistered - Pathetic 05.12.2006 16:18 You have been here awhile and have put some valid points out but you are getting mad because noone wants to hear about why not get a PS3. If you would even take the time to give valid points for the PS3 instead of knock it every way possible noone would consider your points as being biased, but since you insist that your opinions are factual and no biasness taken. Why is there no good valid points being made about the PS3? That sounds very biased to me as I read through your posts. You sir are not going to change the minds of people here by knocking a system that will meet their needs. If it doesn't meet your needs then leave the board cause you're wasting everyones time trying to sway the board. M$ employees are paid to go through these boards and do this and I guarantee $ony probably has their employees do the same on M$ Xbox sites. Neither way is going to sway a loyal fan or a person that has it set out to get the system of choice. 4 guys I know that already have the Xbox360 are also getting the PS3 for the games of their choice. Too much money and they laughed. They said as long as it delivers and let them play those games of choice they are fine with the price. They are like me not even worried about which system is better just what games are worth playing on it. 1 of them did light up on the fact it has BD-Ray already in it cause he is a big movie buff also. So I guess no matter how hard you try to get someone to agree with you that isn't a Xbox fan you are wasting your time and ours by consistantly trying. As stated above go play your system or go to your fansite and give your examples to people that will like it. Just keep stating it the way you do with not one positive mention of the PS3. I have something possitive to say about the xbox 360 and it is a good system for gamers that like the games that came out. For me the gaming I like and the entertainment value I want the PS3 is the better choice. have a nice day :P 400 -
Unregistered - Steve Ballmer 05.12.2006 16:28 Microsoft pwns Sony!!! DelayStation 3 won't be released until 2007.....sup? whacha got now bioatches???????? 401 -
@ Billie GatesUnregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.12.2006 16:37 Yo man, if you can only yell, scream, kick and shout to people that are dropping some true things you're the only sad kid over here. If you can react on the facts, what should be done on a forum, would be nice! 1. So you are glad there's no rumble future anymore in the controller? 2. You don't think the movement thing is dropped in suddenly because they steal Wii's idea? Did it seem as it was implemented long ago? Isn't it strange that 6 months before the so called release nothing is really for sure? 3. Did or did not Sony lied about the 2 x HDMI output? 4. Did or did not Sony show Killzone 2 footage, which they called 'in game' which was so enormously pre rendered and isn't everybody thinking now: hhhmmmm if haven't seen much, and especially not what they promised on last E3? 5. Where is Killzone 2 anyway? Why do you think the nr. 1 game almost for this system is not shown? While Gears of War had great in game footage, which blows anything out of the water. Go check http://xboxmovies.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/3162/Gears-of-War-E3-2006-Demo/ for yourself and you'll become a believer 6. The PS3 GPU is a Nividia 7900, the 360 GPU is designed specially for it, the most strongest of the two, agreed probably because it's been technically researched 7. The PS3 CPU would have some advantage over the 360 CPU, but just slightly and the PS3 CPU is harder to program 8. 1080p will not be done for real, the datastream is too high, it couldn't be processed. So 720p will be upscaled by the PS3. Let's say it's a wet dream spoiled for sure 9. The Blue Ray isn't even a standard format, could be one ends up with a completely useless semi-next gen drive. Doesn't that feel strange at all to pay those 200 Euro's/Dollars extra for over the 360 that gives next gen now? Hope you are old and mature enough to just discuss the questions. If you and others can't you're giving your real age for sure. In that case your parents will have to give you money to buy a console and they will say: damn a descent PS3 600 Euro's?! Go buy a 360 kid my wallet is empty enough! 402 -
Unregistered - OneLiveCell 05.12.2006 18:13 STUPID ASS POOR PEOPLE CANT EVEN BUY A 600DLS THING... WHATS NEXT?? YOU HAVE TO WAIT TO THE RELEASE OF THOSE CHEAP CONSOLES THAT RESEMBLE PLAYSTATIONS AND NES MACHINES... DO YOU KNOW NOW THAT MAN INVENTED THE AIRPLANE??? ITS A GREAT WAY TO TRAVEL... BUT YOU CANT AFFORD IT, NO THERE NOT ANGELS FLYING IN HEAVEN, THEY ARE MAN-CRAFTED.... 403 -
that's cheap caps lock stuckUnregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.12.2006 18:51 Hey poor guy, go buy a new keyboard and don't mind buying PS3 or angels, because your caps lock is stuck by jurking off on the keys. 404 -
Whats the big deal?Unregistered - Sevir04 05.12.2006 19:12 this is really getting ridiculous... most of these consumers are really limited to puny minds... what the hell is up with these Xbox fanboys goin nuts about the ps3's price... so the premium package is 600 bucks... what is the big deal... i'm sure if halo3 was oe he ps3 u Xbox fan boys would gladly buy it.. no questions asked... it's foolish to go and debate this because MS and Bill Gates has you guys by a leash... if MS wanted to release the Xbox 360 at 500 for the core u brainwashed guys who loved the first xbox would fork it over right of back... so please STFU and stop trying stop people from liking the system of their choice... understand that the ps3 will sell and it will have huge demands... people will be lined up for it.. just like u all did on the day the xbox360 launched. people aren't afraid to spend big money on something they want and feel for... if it's in their heart that it will diliver u'll get it... people are gonna have.. end of story... enough of this senseless war... the xbox is a system that has halo and fable and ... forza, and they finally got a final fantasy and a GTA.... so now you can all sit there and play ur 400 dollar system... keep in mind that pcs cost more than that and people go out and by pc and they can play games that look even better than whats on the most powerfull console right now... and they arent sweating it... people are gonna buy this system and are gonna make use of all it's functionality... its a great bargain... so just go back to ur xbox fansite and stay there or if u have nothin better to do go play your system... if you're one of the lucky ones that have a workin one.. 405 -
Please read me I make senceBoycott the xbox360 and lets show these fukers jus 05.12.2006 19:35 I'm an Xbox Fanboy. Why you ask? the following. I like FPS's that's why I'll buy the 360. Also I'm looking forward to the NEW and improved FPS coming out next month called "FPS's for ever" from Microsoft. But to be honest that game doesn't compare to the one i'm really anticipating. It's a FPS that takes place in the future. Oh it's great you Sony fanboys ought to try it. I like Microsoft alot because every month they put out a brand NEW FPS, and since I belong to the KKK i like to pretend i'm hunting imigrants because i enjoy being a racist hateful prick. The one game that will really blow me and my friends away will be aHOLE 3 which is ofcourse the daddy of FPS. You SONY Fanboys don't know what you're missing :) 406 -
Bill Gates 391speedracer 05.12.2006 19:54 Was that the best you could do bill? Nothing else to say? Thanks for proving my point. All i want to know is where is Killzone? And why do you guys still buy into Sonys b^!!$#%* 407 -
wowformer questionmark 05.12.2006 20:04 now i'm a rascist, black, kkk member. because everyone of a certain race or group all do the same thing, and have the same mentality. everyone that ever played xbox is rascist. guess that's why i am a black man with white, asian, and hispanic friends. could you name all of the new games that have come out recently for the ps2 other than multi-platform or sports that weren't some sort of turn based, sometimes real time, rpg or hack-n-slash with anime characters? recent history brings me xenosaga 2, dragon quest viii, magna carta, drakengard 2, aterlier iris 2, suikoden v, warship gunner 2, steambot chronicles, final fantasy online expansion, metal saga, kingdom hearts 2, samurai champloo, with naruto: ultimate ninja, disgaea 2, final fantasy vii: dirge of cerberus, final fantasy xii, one piece: pirates carnival, avatar, dot.hack g.u., phantasy star universe, and valkyrie profile 2 all coming later. not to mention all of the unannounced games. the whole 1 type of game on the system is weak. 408 -
# 406Bill Gates 05.12.2006 20:26 I keep buying Sony's crap because it tastes better than Microsoft. Mmmmm delicious. You oughta try it sometime. It tastes really good. Specially all the PS3 stuff, it's there best crap ever. I can't wait to eat tons of it. Mmmmmmmmm PS: EVERY PS3 FANBOY, BOYCOTT THE XBOX360 AND ALL THE FANBOYS THAT GO WITH IT. EVERYONE JOIN THE BOYCOTT. 409 -
xbox360 fanboysBill Gates 05.12.2006 20:33 All you xbox360 fanboys are like worms. You come out by the thousands and ruin everything you touch. This site was never this bad until E3 came along. Now all of you come here just to talk sh!t, it's PATHETIC. So what if we're blinded by SONY, it's still alot better than being hit over the head with a hammer and being unconcious by Microsoft. YOU MAAAGGGOOOTTTSSS 410 -
PAUL CERULA 05.12.2006 20:36 Once again Bill Gates you have nothing to say or prove 411 -
Bill Gatesformer questionmark 05.12.2006 20:41 i'd have to disagree. it was just as bad before. people just can't seem to express their opinions in a rational manner. if you like something or think something is good and i don't, i can still have a decent discussion or debate with you about it. i can explain my position and explain why i feel the way i do. to be honest, i think a lot of the people that post on these sites don't even play games or have a true side. they just like to stir up sh*t and start all of name calling ect. i don't hate anybody that doesn't follow my choice or like what i like. everyone has their own choices and opinions. if i disagree with someone, that's all there is to it. i have friends i disagree with things on all of the time, which i would think anyone else that posts here does as well from time to time. i don't call them names and stop being their friend, and i don't try to change their mind. you prefer sony, that's fine. it's your choice. it doesn't affect anyone but you. some people just can't understnd that. 412 -
#390 - That's good, but let me put it into context.Xtrm L1481L1TY 05.12.2006 20:43 When Ken sais, "JUMP", You fanboys say, "How high!". When Ken lies, cheat, steals, and pretty much rapes you up the @ss, you fanboys say. "Thank you Sir may I have another?". Think about it... I ain't gonna be no ones B1TCH.... How about you? Sony fanboy 1 "Thank you Sir may I have another?" Sony fanboy 2 "Thank you Sir may I have another?" Sony fanboy 3 "Thank you Sir may I have another?" Sony fanboy 4 "Thank you Sir may I have another?" Sony fanboy 5 "Thank you Sir may I have another?"............ ....... Sony fanboy 100,000 "Thank you Sir may I have another? Poor fanboys just don't know any better. Hahaha 413 -
^^^^^Bill Gates 05.12.2006 20:50 95% of all the post made by xbox fans are like the one above this one. I rest my case. 414 -
Bill Gates 391speedracer 05.12.2006 21:37 On behalf of all the xbox 360 and ps3 fans I want to take this time to award Bill Gates with the "Bright as a bag of rocks" award! please Bill! You were saying? Speech! Speech! 415 -
Bill Gates on your 441speedracer 05.12.2006 21:39 "Pot this is kettle, your black" over 416 -
Unregistered - no vibration lol 05.13.2006 00:38 lol, the guys over at sony has a real treat for you ps3 jerks, they gave you a dual shockless 1...so you sayin damn we dont need vibration we got tilt a tilt, when in reality you do have a shock and vibration feat. its called a price tag, the shock of paying sixhundred dollars plus tax, an extra shockless controller, and a game will have you in shock for a long time to come, yeah sony is great. However if you wanna get down to it, the 360 is a better deal, you get hd gaming, gorgeous wireless controller, xboxlive, and all kinds of other things, and the greatest thing of all is the intergration of all the features and you can pick match and choose how you want to upgrade your system as you go along, the thing with sony is they just stick it to you and you have no choice and then all of you say well atleast sony will have better graphics, better graphics is not everything. id prefer the overall experince that the 360 has to offer, and the even give you the option of playing hi def movies now with the add on, im sayin you do things as you see fit, its great. And at the end of the day how many metal gears do you really want, how many grandturismos can you really play so forth and so on. You guys really need to see xbox 360 attatched to a hidef set up with surround sound and customsound track, and somethin like ghost recon advanced war online....its great and that game is a port mind you. Just imagine. Halo3 or one of the other games desinged for the 360. You cant beat it. Sony will be nice to dont get me wrong but they are so full of it i dont want nothin to do with them. MS has done an excellent job with the 360, xbox live and all its customization glory its great, and i absolutely love the wireless 360 controller, even the vibration feels perfect, you when you compare it to the ps3 the ps3 feels like a rip off to me. No disrespect to anyone but the ps3 is all hype it cant f*ck with the 360 plain and simple. You guys laughed at ms because of the few bad batches of 360's but mark my words, there are going to be so many more complaints about the ps3 because sony totally ignored yields with a nov launch date and slow pokin with the development kits, the games are going to be great the game developers had alot of time to get the launch titles together but the system it self will surely backfire. Its total crap. My hat is off to MS the 360 is great, hell sony cant rule forever and they wont, lets here for the 360 the real next gen console. 417 -
-------Karibu 05.13.2006 00:47 OMG!!!! FFS people!!! I read over 100 comments and mostly all were biased xbug commments!!! Couldn't read the rest. Seriously, this is even worse than beore E3!! Are you Xbugs so facking pathetis that every time they show awesome material to PS3,you have to come here bashing with crap. Agh, I really hope people has to register before they comment. So PS3 comes with 500$ and 600$ pricet tag. Even that cheaper one offers more that X360 premium. If it's too much for you then, fack off, there's plenty people to buy it. They had already playable PS3 prototype, year ago MS had X360 games running on MAC's!!! Everyone has praised the look of PS3 games, exept you pathetic xbugs. There's no doubt PS3 is the superior one. You xbugs are just too much, go play your games. Really, you're damn sad. 418 -
Unregistered - a bad flu 05.13.2006 03:20 READ #369.....NO FANBOY 419 -
@ Billie GatesUnregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.13.2006 06:45 So you're shouting again a lot of nothing. If you really want to contribute to this forum, go and discuss the points given at number 401. I invite you and others, but I guess you won't because just putting up plain sh*t is your hobby. I am so curious if you can say something about these facts 420 -
All this b1tching..Unregistered - Capt CHAOS 05.13.2006 06:48 Just amuses me that the same thing happened back when the Xbox 360 was about to launch. I guess the PS3 community will get the same treatment until March 2007. Watch out for the overheating problems.. :-) 421 -
Unregistered - twist96 05.13.2006 08:04 Wow, there is a lot of immaturity here. The only reason 360 fanboys come here is because Sony fanboys are so arrogant about their system, 360 fanboys like to rub it in their faces when something promised doesn't come around. Whatever, I'm past all that. I'm looking at this from a rational perpective, as a consumer. I own an Xbox 360. I have CoD2, Oblivion, and GRAW. GRAW is an amazingly fun game, plus calling this game anything but next-gen is a crime against humanity. Even enemy characters, who during the game, you may not actually see up-close (unless you look), are fully rendered (no "ham-fist" polygon shortcuts), and even have self-shadowing and full (i.e to the extent of the player character) reload animations. There are so many ways to play this game. Though a lot of people don't do it, you can actaully play stealthily. Playing like this is not even described in the game, but you can do a crouching run along a low wall, and have the enemy on the other side not see you. The AI does not have some kind of cheesy system where they would spot you regardless of cover, like in other action-foucused games. The AI have a line of sight, and you do not feel you are disadvanced due to any sort of "unfair" enemy AI. Loading times in this game are minimal even without the 360 Hard Drive, and a streaming model of Mexico is a damn sight impressive. Exploding cars with bullets and grenade launchers is damn fun, and you see the cars ripping apart without any form of slowdown at all. Now, Oblivion. Graphically amazing in duengeons, towns and the like, but the open areas, the slowdown at some points really KILLS it. It's just annoying. However, this game is far redemmed through it's deep fleshed-out story, first person meele combat (!), spectactular levels, amazing havok physics engine on hundreads of items at a time in various building, and even more amazing enemies. COD2...is another run of the mill WWII shooter. However, what it does it does very well, clean graphics grace this game, and it also has solid shooting elements but really, this genre is way saturated, and I find it boring. I'm used to American soliders screaming in agony with sad music already. Ok, so those are the three games I have. And I enjoy playing all of them, CoD2 less perhaps. Now, I got my 360 in Feburary. The biggest flaw I have to report is that I get some freezing on ocasion. This is solved by turning the console on and off. No big deal. But I've had nothing of the red lights or anything like that. The cables are industrial size, and the power brick is longer than my Gamecube, which sits next to it. Now, in regards to the Playstation 3. > Sony promised 2 HDMI ports in 1080p at 60fps. That is no longer the case. Lied. Think how many people pre-ordered PS3 since TGS last year on the promise of this amazing technology, only to find out now that it won't have it. > Killzone 2. Lied. They couldn't produce a new CGI trailer in time for this year's E3 either. Besides, Gears of War looks just as good ingame. > Sony critised the 2-tier release of 360, the Core and Premium. Now it's doing the same, but in a worse way. The "core" version doesn't get the Flash Drive, the HDMI (therefore no Blu-Ray HD playback), the Memory Card slot (no taking saves to a friend's house), and other features, and unlike the 360 core, has no physical means to upgrade to "premium" status. > They took their cliched controller and added the guide button of 360 and the motion sensor of the Wii, and took out the rumble. INNOVATION MY AS5. Even Hideo Kojima has said in his interview with Gamespot that he is upset that it doesn't have it, as it was a big part of MGS. > Even with Blu-ray playback coming at a cheap price, remember it is a new technology. Sony are selling at a loss for it. The disks will be b!tch expensive for both movies and games. And since it is a SONY technology, they will add a small "profit" cost on top of that, to try and appease stockholders and to cut their loss. And what of the chance that Blu-ray is not a success...? Sony had two formats in media, Betamax and UMD. Both really failed in comparison to their rivals. > The price. £400 at the cheapest, when the Xbox 360 premium is £290? (British Pounds) What? With PS3, you're paying for an unproven movie technology, when the movies are expensive and no-one even owns an HD set, and for games that look the same as 360's. Micrsooft are offering it optionally, so for those who have the MEANS to play Hi-Def movies, sure. Plus the cheaper HD-DVD format. But for those, and this the majority, who don't own a Hi-def TV, and don't want to pay £25 or $35 for a Hi-def movie, and want Next Gen games, 360 is the way forward. And that is a LOT of people. No parent in their right mind is gonna pay £600 ($900) for a PS3 set-up. You can buy a 360 and a Wii for that price. > The fact that the only exclusive game that is worthy of any praise or hype is MGS4. I LOVE MGS, but I am not paying £400 ($500) for one game, thank you very much. 360 has all the main 3rd party games PS3 has. Plus, the exclusives: > Gears of War > Halo 3 > F.E.A.R > Test Drive: Unlimited + more PS3 can have Full Auto too. Pile of garbage. > The fact that PS3 supports Linux software opens it for hacking. Put simply, Playstation 3 is too expensive for a movie technology no-one can support on their TV and games that look that the same. 422 -
eeUnregistered - e 05.13.2006 10:17 some people believes in their own bullshi! As this poor dude above 423 -
# 419 the dip s)-(it you're about to get OWNEDBill Gates 05.13.2006 11:10 “1. So you are glad there's no rumble future anymore in the controller?” In my opinion with the Dolby Digital surround sound built into the system, sound will play a much more important role this generation. I would much rather prefer hearing an explosion all around me rather than just a silly vibration on my hand. This is where you say “well not everyone has a surround system wah wah wah,” too fuking bad!! Times change, work harder and buy one. All the NICER things in life are obtained through hard work. This feature was removed because of pending lawsuits anyways. And before you go on to say “well they just copied Nintendo wah, wah wah”. The two technologies are very different from each other and Sony has had this paten for quite some time now. Here’s a link. http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=JP11099284&F=0 ”2. You don't think the movement thing is dropped in suddenly because they steal Wii's idea? Did it seem as it was implemented long ago? Isn't it strange that 6 months before the so called release nothing is really for sure?” Read my answer to number one dip sh!t. ”3. Did or did not Sony lied about the 2 x HDMI output?” This makes you sound like a wining biatch. First of all Sony doesn’t owe you or I nothing. They are a company trying to stay in business amist the BIG M$ coming into the console business. What they did was a strategic move back in E3 05. They had a vision of all the things they wanted to have on the PS3 and they announced it before M$ showed their cards to wow the crowd. When they noticed M$ was bringing NOTHING new to the next generation they went ahead and removed some specs to compete with them. By announcing all of those things they kept some people from buying the 360. AGAIN it’s all strategic moves that companies have to look ahead just to stay afloat. If you could understand this, you would know that’s not a lie you idiot. If the PS3 was already in production and in a box, and Sony says “in this box we have such and such” when you get home and open it and it’s not there, THAT’S A LIE. You moron. ”4. Did or did not Sony show Killzone 2 footage, which they called 'in game' which was so enormously pre rendered and isn't everybody thinking now: hhhmmmm if haven't seen much, and especially not what they promised on last E3?” You have got to be the dumbest kid on this forum. The Killzone 2 footage was a vision of what Sony hopes to achive on “in game” for the PS3 for that game. Sony will show off the game again when they are ready to wow the crowds again. This will happen most likely at next E3 07. As a strategic move they want all the talk about that game to quiet down a bit. I swear you sound like a little brat with all your winning. ”5. Where is Killzone 2 anyway? Why do you think the nr. 1 game almost for this system is not shown? While Gears of War had great in game footage, which blows anything out of the water. Go check http://xboxmovies.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/3162/Gears-of-War-E3-2006-Demo/ for yourself and you'll become a believer” If you didn’t notice a lot of the footage of that game takes place in the dark. M$ is trying to win over all the morons like you with shinny plastic looking graphics. They are showing off their shadders to wow the crowd you idiot, and it’s working too. I personally believe the game looks great but again I’m not into those types of games. Exclusives, Physics and gameplay is what this next gen is about. Almost all of the 360 exclusives at this moment are FPS’s. ”6. The PS3 GPU is a Nividia 7900, the 360 GPU is designed specially for it, the most strongest of the two, agreed probably because it's been technically researched” You truly are a Moron who thinks he knows everything. It’s funny how all of the sudden all these Xbox fanboys are such tech gurus. All I know is that the PS3 will have the RSX which, from what I read is based out of the 7900. I also know that both systems will be pretty much identical in graphics. So you bringing up GPU talk just proves that all you’re doing is trying to justify every aspect of the 360 and how wonderful you think or read in Xbox web sites it is. AGAIN graphics is not an issue with this next gen stupid. It’s Exclusives, Physics and gameplay you moron. ”7. The PS3 CPU would have some advantage over the 360 CPU, but just slightly and the PS3 CPU is harder to program” You make this one sound like the developers are as dump as you are. Yeah the 360 CPU is easier to program. That’s because it’s a straight up PC you Dip sh!t. The PS3 CPU is easier to program than the PS2 and it’s an entirely different type of processor. My God you’re moronic. ”8. 1080p will not be done for real, the datastream is too high, it couldn't be processed. So 720p will be upscaled by the PS3. Let's say it's a wet dream spoiled for sure” Again you judge things before they are even out. Your parents must really think you’re special. Gran Turismo HD was running at 1080p @ 60fps you dip sh!t. WarDevil was also running at 1080p. Just shut your mouth on this topic because you just don’t know what is actually possible with this system yet. You’re only going to make yourself look stupid in the future. ”9. The Blue Ray isn't even a standard format, could be one ends up with a completely useless semi-next gen drive. Doesn't that feel strange at all to pay those 200 Euro's/Dollars extra for over the 360 that gives next gen now?” No it doesn’t feel stupid. Like I said, Microsoft is bringing nothing innovative to this next gen. other than prettier graphics than its last console. Blu-Ray will give developers the space they need to create anything bigger worlds, longer games, whatever they want, without having to worry about disk space or compression issues. Not only that HD movies will be the thing of the future. ”Hope you are old and mature enough to just discuss the questions.” Hope you are old enough to understand all of this, you idiot. How stupid can you really be? All in all $600 buck is a steal considering all the features that this machine will include, even if it doesn’t have 2x HDMI. Just don’t knock it because you can’t afford it, because it really is a better buy than the 360. You stupid. 424 -
Think about this people......Good 423Unregistered - DarkPrinynce 05.13.2006 11:58 Good post 423! To add to that, Microsoft is now trying to add hd-dvd. If everyone is knocking Sony for having a player that can't be supported yet on tv's(that's a damn lie because Sony has a tv out that can that is rated 5 star by consumers that have it!) need to be quite because microsoft is offering a hd-dvd to keep up. Now why the hell microsoft wants to spend more money on making a hd-dvd player for a add-on for the 360 if population does not have tv's yet to fully support true 1080p?? And then when you add it, it will be the same price as the PS3, maybe more if you buy the premium pack $399. Knowing good and well that the hd-dvd will go for no less than $200. So there you have it for the 100th time. When PS1 came out, it was for games and they made cd's play on it. PS2 was a step up, they made it play cd's and dvd's. Everyone had loved that because they got a DVD player along with a great gaming system. Now the PS3. CD'S, DVD'S AND BLUE-RAY HD-DVD. This is not something new that Sony is doing. If you look at their strategy over the years, this is the same thing they have always done, and have been successful at it. Everyone has to remember that Sony is a veteran compared to XBOX, and everyone should get off of Sony's ass because they will deliver once again a good gaming system. 425 -
PAUL CERULA Unregistered - think 05.13.2006 11:59 PAUL CERULA 05.11.2006 23:44 PRICE... Let me break it down for you. The problem here is that the 40gb difference is a sign that you'll need your hard drive more than ever if your an average gamer. No way would Sony just toss away 100 bucks revenue for a smaller hard drive. They're in the hole big time for blu-ray. Also in the GT4 HD part the dev. said that the hard drive would have to download campaign maps, races, etc to make load times. Hello...isn't this what the Blu-ray was meant to do. And considering their confidence in people buying a 60gb pack it's clear your hard drive will be used a lot. And that some people won't be able to do with just a 20gb. ____________________________________________________ So your arguing having a larger HD in a console is a bad thing? Wow just wow. So lets get this right. PS3 has a larger disk format (BluRay) versus XBOX360 (DVD) and the PS3 comes with 20GB HD or a 60GB HD while the XBOX 360 comes with no HD or 20GB HD. What this means for the developers on the XBOX 360 is they have to do everything off the DVD where as for the PS3 they have all the room the BluRay has plus they can utilize some of the 20GB HD to inhance performance. They can't as you suggest utilize more of the hard drive in the 60 gig version simply because they would screw up PS3 system with only a 20GB system. The exact same reason the XBOX 360 can't utilize any of the 20 GB HD since it would not work on the XBOX 360 with no HD. Did you also know the HD in the PS3 is removavble and you can put in a much larger one if you want? PHIL HARRISON - Leaving aside the movie debate about Blu-Ray and HD-DVD, purely from a game design point of view and a game production point of view, we have to have Blu-Ray. DVD is just not big enough; DVD9 is nowhere near big enough for the kind of games, the richness that we're going to be putting in the games, the variety, the detail, you name it. So, we had to adopt Blu-Ray primarily as a game format. The second benefit of it is that it becomes a video format as well. Putting it all in one box, as you say, is also down to the fact that a hard disc drive is necessary to create a totally integrated network platform. We want every consumer to be able to download and install content on their hard disc drive. If you want to put all your music on your hard disc drive, you'll probably go for the 60GB version. If you're a complete music fan and video fan, and you want to have huge amounts of digital content, then you can upgrade to whatever size of drive you like. You can put any in that you like - it is a computer, after all. GI - So that hard drive is a standard PC drive? PHIL HARRISON ATA, bog standard, yeah. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=16969 _________________________________________________________________________ PAUL CERULA 05.11.2006 23:44 MARKET REACTION...(not everybody's like you) Blu-ray...HD video for 600 bucks. Ask yourself how many people even know about HD-DVD or Blu-ray.....OR EVEN HDTV. How many are going to dive in fists full of cash to get HD quality. _____________________________________________________________ Well MS obviously thinks so since they are coming out with a HD-DVD player add on for the XBOX 360 that is only good for playing movies not for games. If for some reason it turns out that it is for games as well then XBOX 360 owners will be forced to buy the add on just to play any of the newer games. Also nothing has been release on if it will be HDMI or not. _________________________________________________________________________ PAUL CERULA 05.11.2006 23:44 The fact is that more than 95% of consumers don't have an HDTV so why would any of them give a flying %#$@ about blu-ray? With that in mind who's gonna look at PS3 titles and say it's worth the 200 dollar difference. And all of us should by know accept that both systems are very close in power. IBM inspected the Cell CPU and said it was 75.9% yielding....not 2 teraflops. http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/power/library/pa-cellperf/?ca=drs-#table4 http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2006/04/30/ps3-smoke-and-mirrors-ibm-specs/ http://ps3.qj.net/Inside-the-PS3-s-Operating-System-/pg/49/aid/21047 _________________________________________________________________________ You just make up that 95% amount? I think so... Yankee Group forecasts that by the end of 2010 HDTV penetration will exceed 78 million homes. The Yankee data is confirmed by a separate study from Panasonic in the US. They say that one in four US homes (26 percent) either owns or plans to own an HDTV by the end of 2006. This is up dramatically from the same study a year ago that talked of just 15 percent of households intending to make the switch. “As people gain a better understanding of what HD offers at prices that are increasingly affordable, we're seeing an incredible surge in sales,” says Panasonic Display Group VP Andrew Nelkin. And remember, the US will switch its analog signals off on February 17, 2009. As to your opinon that the PS game line up is not worth the extra money that your opinion and if you feel that way fine don't buy one. Obviously not everyone feels the same way as you. http://www.nds.com/worldvision/thirty/article_5.html ___________________________________________________________________ PAUL CERULA 05.11.2006 23:44 And for months know we all know and accept that the PS3's GPU is simply a NVIDIA's 7900 series. And because of that the Xbox 360's Xenos GPU is more way more powerful. In fact its stated not to be matched by PC's until late 2006. That's like a 1 year better GPU...A YEAR EARLIER. so put one and one together and you get...PS3 GPU AND CPU ARE LESS POWERFUL ______________________________________________________________________ I am not going to argue over this simply because its been done to death. Lets say for the sake of arguement that your right the XBOX 360 is more powerful. Ultimately what determines how good the games are and look is the ability for developers to utilize alot of textures and such to truly display the full power of the system. These resources take up space and while the developers have it for the PS3 they are going to have alot less space to work with on the XBOX 360. _____________________________________________________________________ PAUL CERULA 05.11.2006 23:44 How will more than 95% of consumers get the nerve to spend 600 bucks on a Blu-ray format they can't even utilize? Right now the only possible feature keeping Sony alive is their library of farmiliar games and ignorant consumers. _____________________________________________________________________ The BluRay format can be utilized in 2 ways. Storage and movies. Little Timmy comes and asks his Mom and Dad for a new console for X-Mas. Mom and dad think ok we could get Timmy the XBOX 360 that only plays games or for only $200 more we can have a gaming system for Timmy and a HD Movie player for us. They would percieve this as a bargain with stand alone BluRay players selling for $1000 or HD-DVD players selling for $500 to 600. And while your right not alot of people are able to display 1080p on thier tv the BluRay movies will still look alot better at 720p or 1080i then their current DVD player. _______________________________________________________________________ PAUL CERULA 05.11.2006 23:44 ONLINE Also about free online, all Sony did was leave it up to the developers to charge people online fees because their the ones making it. If you truly believe that the publishers are going to build data centres, build user interfaces, network stacks, run bandwidth costs, egress costs, do compatibility with every provider around the world... For free, your crazy? It could even cost more than 50 bucks every 13 months. __________________________________________________________ You have no idea what will be included for free from Sony. This is all that was stated that this years press conference. Kaz Hirai is back out to talk about the online strategy. He says online and network will be like air conditioning in a car: a standard feature. He says online and networking for the PS3 "is as essential as the air that we breathe." He says by offering a variety of social functionalities beyond gaming (messaging, player profiles, friends list), Sony will create a community, a "virtual society," free of charge. ________________________________________________________________ PAUL CERULA 05.11.2006 23:44 BOTTOMLINE I'm not hyped easily. If you can't believe IBM and countless other developers about the truth of the two consoles your in for a big surprise. _______________________________________________________________________ I think I will wait until a reputable independent tester like Toms Hardware gets a XBOX 360 and a PS3 and does a head to head comparison thanks to find out which is more powerful and by how much. ___________________________________________________________________________ PAUL CERULA 05.11.2006 23:44 If you like the games fine, but just accept that your getting an inferior peice of hardware with the exception of Blu-ray. But that doesn't matter to the 90% of the market. This round Nintendo went below standards, MS went right on, and PS3 went way over. Blu-ray may be worth it to you unquestionably but it doesn't appeal to the bulk market. You need to think outside of your lust to get the real picture of how this will play out. I'M NO FANBOY, I'm a truth-boy _________________________________________________________ Wow how lucky we are for you to come and tell us the truth. In reality is simply your opinion nothing more nothing less. Its amazing at how much credit you give yourself and how little you give anyone else who does not share your opinion. If that's not a fanboy I don't know what is. As far as your prediction that the PS3 will not appeal to the bulk market will see come November when consumers will vote with their wallets and that will be the truth. Anything else before then is just pure speculation and spin by both PS3 and XBOX 360 fans. Now that's the truth! :P 426 -
To every one that complaint about the cost.Unregistered - Just Games 05.13.2006 13:34 In my opinion, I think Sony make the right decisions with the two SKU. Think about it for a second. The 499.99 is actually aim at the hardcore gamer that actually doesn't need all of the extra stuff. As for some cassual gamer and the rest of the general public, they may opt to go with the 599.99, because it offer them as a almost complete entertainment unit. As for the 499.99 compare with the 399.99 x360, we may want to wait a little bit longer to compare the two system when they both available for testing at our local game store to see is the 100.00 worth it or not. again, just my two cents. 427 -
THIS LINK WILL SHOW YOU ALL THE WAYTHAMMER1 05.13.2006 14:49 http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?type=wmv&id=10652 We will stop arguing. Please go here and watch the feed. 428 -
To Fake bill gatesTHAMMER1 05.13.2006 15:20 Your in some serious denial right now dude. Just admit it man you were let down. I am not even a die-hard Sony fan and I was let down. Just face it A 360 is a good choice and we are still not really sure about the PS3 yet. The PS3 is not the Holy Grail or any kind of life changing device. In a real big way Sony has lost it, E3 proves that it’s cool to be a 360 owner and be comfortable with your choice. The debate is no longer which is better but which can deliver. No specs or corporate hype can prove that only putting the game in your hands and experiencing the games can. So calm down and go over to some ones house who owns a 360 and get some next gen rocks off. Cause the 360 is really really fun. I promise you will feel better when you stop being so hard headed. 429 -
Xbox isin't that good!Unregistered - Playstation Rules! 05.13.2006 15:30 The world is 75% water which is the controll of the console market sony controll and there is 25% land which is the amount of console market microsoft ownes expect the water to rise and flood the land lol! 430 -
Unregistered - ha 05.13.2006 15:51 It's as simple as this i like the PS3 games better kap*she! 431 -
Unregistered - hhhhhhmmmmmm 05.13.2006 16:11 IF YOU LOOK at the Sony/PS3 stand at E3, there are a bunch of games running, and several demos. Watching closely, you will see that the PS3 programs are fairly object-sparse, the one exception being Gran Turismo. Look closely at that title, it is object rich, interactive, happy and pretty, everything you would expect from a next gen title on a next gen console. Has Wii seen the marquee launch title? Has wii found the dev team that managed to crack the cell coding puzzle? Found the next Jeff Minter? What did the Gran Turismo team do? What did Sony do? Well, the version of Gran Turismo, ostensibly running on a PS3, is really running on a PC. Is Sony trying to tell us that a PC is a better gaming platform than the upcoming $600 beastie, or is it the other way around? Either way, this would be very embarrassing for them if it got out, so make sure not to tell anyone. µ 432 -
Bottom Line!Unregistered - PS3 Is Good Idiots! 05.13.2006 17:00 Right i'm sick of all this crap about people saying which is the better console and the power specs and stuff, the bottom line is this there will be a slim line between them and very hard to tell the games apart for the first two years i reckon; and at that you will by the console for what games it has end of story! 433 -
PAUL CERULA 05.13.2006 19:48 Listen to those who know what they're talking about. ------------------------------------------------------- www.gametrailers.com/player.php?type=wmv&id=10652 ------------------------------------------------------- 434 -
Unregistered - PS3 is good idiots! 05.13.2006 20:06 The point is i know what i want! which is better than deciding over some pointless technical specifications rubbish! Nobody is even interested in reading about that, do you think when the average gamer goes into a shop there going to what tp listen to that, no i don't think so! 435 -
Quit with the sh*t, yous sound like idiots!Unregistered - The Truth 05.13.2006 20:24 Unregistered - The Truth 05.13.2006 20:21 Man i can't believe how stupid all the xbox fanboys sound on this forum, there talking total crap, true fanboy crap, there taking every shot they can but in the end it won't matter how much crap they talk because they won't be able to denie how good the PS3 is when it's released and as for this talk about the xbox having better games; and a better line up is complete and utter garbage. The PS3 has a far superior games line up, who cares if the games are incomplete or unplayable, as long as there ready when the console is ready, that's all it really matters, so all these coments on how the PS3 E3 conference sucked (Which it didin't) won't make a difference in the world unless somebody living in excile for the last few years loggs onto this site and seas all this crap and is blindly buys into it then you actually might be convincing somebody. As for the Halo 3 trailer it was only a minuit short for crying out loud, if what there saying is true then let's see them use those graphics through out the whole game and if they do then good on them, nobody is complaining, but let's get 1 thing straight PS3 has far more interesting games than the xbox 360 and the Japan territory will sell more PS3s there in that territory alone than the Xbox 360 will sell worldwide so if i were those fanboys i would just be quiet because the chances of Microsoft outselling Sony are a big fat zero end of story. 436 -
# 428Bill Gates 05.13.2006 21:34 You're an idiot too bro. I never said the 360 wasn't a good machine. I said If I had a choice (which I do) I prefer to buy the PS3 because that's where most of all the games I enjoy, and am looking forward to are at. Also I beleive it to be a much smarter investment. You people act like you're all trying to prevent us from making the biggest mistake of our lives with our CHOICE. God you people are stupid. 437 -
# 423Bill Gates 05.13.2006 21:44 You posting that link just proves how much of an Imbasil you really are. That's the opinion of 5 people that are paid to play video games you moron. They, just like you are just a bunch of fuking Drama queens. They're just as stupid as you dip sh!t. Wha, Wha, the PlayStation is $600 dollars, wha, wha. They're idiots who are being biased and are not thinking as to why the console costs what it does. 438 -
LOOKS LIKE FONY'S GOT YOU PAYSTATION FAN PAYING UP LIKE IN CHURCH LOLUnregistered - DIGITA-L-IFE 05.14.2006 00:06 A 20GB model and 60GB model, at a price of $499 USD (20GB) and $599 USD (60GB), or $549 CAD / $659 CAD (plus taxes, plus games). Far too expensive, no matter what the features are, if you ask me. I'm not kidding: I have no desire whatsoever to buy a console for that much money. For roughly the price of the high-end PS3, I could buy a Mac mini. For less than the price of the low-end PS3, I could buy a 60GB iPod. I could make two months of car-lease payments. I could buy an upgrade version of Flash 8. I could even pay for minor cosmetic dental surgery. But buying a PS3 would just make me feel like an idiot. 439 -
wow this is ridiculousUnregistered - Sevir04 05.14.2006 01:09 ok in regards to 431 - "Unregistered - hhhhhhmmmmmm 05.13.2006 16:11 IF YOU LOOK at the Sony/PS3 stand at E3, there are a bunch of games running, and several demos. Watching closely, you will see that the PS3 programs are fairly object-sparse, the one exception being Gran Turismo. Look closely at that title, it is object rich, interactive, happy and pretty, everything you would expect from a next gen title on a next gen console. Has Wii seen the marquee launch title? Has wii found the dev team that managed to crack the cell coding puzzle? Found the next Jeff Minter? What did the Gran Turismo team do? What did Sony do? ---Well, the version of Gran Turismo, ostensibly running on a PS3, is really running on a PC---. Is Sony trying to tell us that a PC is a better gaming platform than the upcoming $600 beastie, or is it the other way around? Either way, this would be very embarrassing for them if it got out, so make sure not to tell anyone. µ" ---Well, the version of Gran Turismo, ostensibly running on a PS3, is really running on a PC---. WTF? kid have you lost your mind... what proof do you have that justifes that claim... absolutely nothin... it's a shame really that u'd say sominthing because a PC looks better than a ur Xbox 360... GTHD is the only title on the show floor that was running on that resolution the game was playable. i was watching my best friend get hands on time with the game itself.. and what made it even worse the game wasn't even Vision GT5, it was GT4 formatted for PS3... i didn't see halo3 looking that good at the MS conference... anyway... i'm not here to start a war.. because it's ridiculous... a person really can not express them self responsibly with out rabid Xbox and microsoft C0ck riders as well as sony c0ck riders screaming which system is better when it it truely left to be seen when the true sparks fly this november... this is about the ps3's pricing.. not a feud about MS or sony brainwashing anybody... fisrt of this is a ps3 fans and others who wish to talk about the ps3 in it's entirety, faults and positives alike on a professional and intelligent way, why the hell are xbox fanboys here tellin us about they're system of choice and how they love first person shooters... because thats essencially what they all talk about.... the true purpose of this site is to encourage intelligent discussion about the upcoming system... not the one thats been released and really ain't doing too well in terms of sales... in my opinion people need to grow up... research ur claims before you state them and stop firing off at people because they are expressing how they feel about the system of choice... because thats what it comes down to in the end... and in my opinion, alot of these xbox and ps3 fan boys are gonna find themselves buying the other system for a particualr few games that catch there interest. choice ... i dont see why you xbox c0ck riders are flammin at the sony boys/children because they are willing to pay 600 bucks for a system thats more powerfull than a dual core high end pc... and whatsfunny is that the ps cost about 400-2000 bucks more than the system... and you same xbox boys are willing to pay for it. aint that sh1t ironic... u'll spend 2000 dollars for a highend pc thats dedicated to gaming... which is more powerful than ur xbox 360 and then wanna turn around and flame at the ps3 early adopters... i can tell u that if bungie said that halo 3 is a s3 exculsive, and said that they wanted you xbox lovers to chop off ur d1cks and hope on sony you would... no denying that at all... each and every one of you would line up on launch day with ur 680 bucks just to have it... so please dont talk nonesense... you all lined up for a 400 dollar system... by far the most expensive console to date... the ps3 hasn't seen release yet so why the fuk are u talkin like u've played it... as if u were on the e3 floor like i am... for u to get hands on time and then judge...... babies thats what u all are... u've been on cod2 for too long... u all should stay in ur corner... and play ur games on ur "nextgen system" wait for halo and fable and forza.... tp vcome out and continue playing becaus eto tell u the truth after the ps3 releases this fall on the 17th... this site will be void of ps3 people flaming back at u xbox boys... they'll all be to busy playin with there buddies online with plenty of games ready to fulfill their need.... u all need to get a life... lets be intellin\gent and disuss like we have brains... the ps3 is priced very economical as i've said in my recent posts... it's akin to pc of the same brand that are released many times over with higher memory and space hard drives... and with other ubgrades like a cd burner of dvd play back... and u know what they cost more than a ps3 and they are less power in terms of graphics and processing power... and still people go out and buy them... why is it that so many people play W.O.W... and they need a crazy grafics card to play it... and they are willing to spend 600 dollars more for a graphics card for their $2000+ pc... and u call sony mad for giving u greater power at a fraction of the price of a high end pc and a 600 dollar Nvidia or ATI graphics card come bind... in my opinion u guys are mad... ur xbox is more powre ful than most pc out there now but not all and it's at a fraction of the price... sony is giving people more power just and features just $200 more than the xbox 360... and it's more powerfull that both a pc and ur system. and ur tellin me that we are mad for spending thousands less for a more powerfull pc of hardware... for better experience in entertainment... next gen dvd player from the get go which is 400 dollars less than the stand alone Blu ray players.. and consumers will get one bundled with the ps3 ... u xbox fanboys contniue playing ur xbox 360 and sony fan boys will continue to discuss at least the intelligent ones anyway... those of u ps3 fanbosy that are gue back with the xbox boys are no better... u dont have to subject urself to their level of childish mouthing... they are kids that get bullied and wish they could do something about the bully but only talks under their breath and walks away with tears... if u want them to undersatnd that ur above them... ignore and discuss the ps3 with others who wish to discuss the ps3 responsibly and educatedly 440 -
GUnregistered - G 05.14.2006 01:21 Todays top developer speaks: http://www.youtube.com/v/_PFUw29U4J8 441 -
to commentor 438Unregistered - Sevir04 05.14.2006 01:24 hey i dont mean any harm, but i feel that u may have already felt that way about pc... if people felt the way that u and many do the world would still be in the past and a miserable on at that... because believe it or not as technology advances so do peoples pockect... when the first tvs came out only veiw had them and they were in black and white , and only showed like 3 channel... people were like oh i'm not getting one because it's too expensive.. look at the world now everybody and their gandma's cousin's sister's auntie's nephew got a tv... and they same is happeneing now as peole are begining to transition in to Hd tv... everyone will have one... just like those who spend crazy money on some pc that pail incomparison to the graphic power and processing power of the xbox 360 which might i add is frcations less than that of those pc in terms of cost... so my friend keep that mentality and u'll be the only one still playing nintendo years years from now on an old tv while the rest of us will move on to the next iteration of digital entertainment... man i tell u people these day... it's funny 442 -
#441Unregistered - DIGITA-L-IFE 05.14.2006 01:53 didn't always feel this way about the high-def wars. HD DVD and Blu-ray are, in some ways, so similar that I assumed no self-respecting consumer would notice or care about the minute differences. Both store, on a dual-layer disc, between 45 and 50 GB of data. Both will offer enhanced end-user interaction. Both, but especially Blu-ray, will offer improved content protection (no copies, please). But as the fracture between the HD DVD-ites and Blu-ray-ees continued, I realized that consumers would be forced to make a choice. (Story continues below) ADVERTISEMENTSAdvertise Here Most of my coworkers and fellow tech watchers handicap the race at dead even. Each technology has suffered its own series of setbacks and delays. The players are only just now arriving, and content is virtually nonexistent. They also see good chances for big HD content success because people have been buying HD TV sets for years, with little good content to play on them. This is only partially true. While HD sets have been around for years, early devices were inordinately expensive, and HD TV stations began showing up only in the past two years. I'd argue that 2005 was the breakthrough year for HD sets. So while demand for HD content may be pent up, there aren't that many consumers in the pen. Late last month, Toshiba finally shipped the very first HD DVD drive. From what I hear, the first run was in the thousands. Those players disappeared almost instantly. I guess those 10,000 consumers also bought all six of the HD DVD titles available from Warner and Universal. This does not sound like a resounding success. But let's look at Blu-ray. Sony's first players (from Samsung, Toshiba, and others) have yet to arrive. There still isn't even one publicly available Blu-ray content disc. In mid-May, Sony announced that we wouldn't see any until late June. This is, ostensibly, to synchronize the release with the availability of those first players. That's a pretty flimsy reason. Warner is smart enough to know that it can sneak HD DVD content into the hands of consumers by burning it onto the back of regular DVD discs. Dvorak noted in his column that Blu-ray technology can't achieve this same feat (not without jumping through some significant technical hurdles). Even so, the first HD DVD discs are not hybrids, so what's really holding back the Blu-ray content? Perhaps Sony is stuck on the "chicken and egg" concept. Which comes first — the players or the content? In a horse race like this, you take both the chickens and eggs and throw them at consumers. Holding anything back is a huge mistake on Sony's (and its partners') part. Still, others expect Sony and Blu-ray to pull the rabbit out of the hat with one critical hardware release: The PlayStation 3. As most people know by now, the PS3 will feature a built-in Blu-ray drive. It was originally slated for a spring ship, but was pulled back when Sony ran into Blu-ray delivery problems. Now we expect to see the eagerly anticipated gaming console in the fall. Dvorak also made this point, but he's less certain of the PS3's success. I'm not. The PS3 will be a blockbuster. Early supplies will sell out. And these gamers will, by default, get a brand new Blu-ray drive. Gamers already expect a lot from their consoles, so the "extra interaction" Blu-ray offers may not mean much to them. But the PS3's success will not help Blu-ray win in the marketplace. This is because Sony's aiming at the wrong target audience. HD DVD and Blu-ray will achieve success only if they reach critical mass in the general consumer marketplace. The gaming market is not the general market. The vast majority of consumers who watch DVDs and even own HD sets are not 12- to 25-year-old die-hard gamers. Instead, they're 25- to 55-year-old adults with children who have better things to do than play games. To be fair, HD DVD and Blu-ray both face a similar uphill battle; consumers are not itching to replace or upgrade their current DVDs or DVD players. It will take a huge marketing and education effort to make consumers understand why they want either standard. Experiencing HD movies will help, but for the next two months, they'll be able to do this only with HD DVD. 443 -
how many controllers?Unregistered - hmm.. 05.14.2006 02:25 i dont give much @ss about rumble, hdmi stuff and the price.. wat i wanna noe is does the ps3 support 7 controllers or just 4? it sux if its 4.. sh!t.. i don wanna buy multi link.. 444 -
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homo 7 way split screen stupid -dam japsUnregistered - (0 _ 0)?! 05.14.2006 02:39 7 players on one tv thats the g@yest sh!t i ever herd of...7 players ahha ahha lol 446 -
PS3 NEWSFLASH HERE:Unregistered - bucksht 05.14.2006 09:36 CHECK THIS OUT: http://youtube.com/watch?v=pJElsNaC6yQ 447 -
@ Billie the kid GatesUnregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.14.2006 16:17 Well Bil, all your 'answers' are or childish, or try to search an answer that is totally useless. And if you would have a good point somewhere, you are undoing your own little party by shouting moron, d!pshit or other 'power'words that make your story weaker. You know people that know they're not right are always disrespect others. You certainly are. Kid Last but not least: the next gen thing will all come down network. XBOX Live has been matured in 4 years. Sony's never been anything. And the next big thing is cross platform network. PC/Windows -Vista-, XBOX Live and through mobile, that is a winning combination. PS3 get's it own, but it is not certain that online gaming will be free. That has never been said by Sony. Making good gameservers do cost a lot of money. Or they will charge people, or they let the choice to the game designer to develop the game servers. Same situation as with the PS2 which s*cked big time. One way or another: on the points said and the network thing: 360 is a better choice. And now let's hope people older then 10 or called Billie the Kid Gates can react. Will be hard though probably. 448 -
eatersUnregistered - kevin 05.14.2006 21:44 to expensive i would pay the same as the 360 449 -
This is for you Phil Harrison and Ken KutaragiUnregistered - kevin 05.14.2006 21:57 please lower the price if you don't want to then don't put it more expensive.I am a sony fan i don't want to pay more than 7oo dollars for the ps3. 450 -
#445 is short sighteddpballes 05.14.2006 21:57 No game would ever split a screen 7 ways. Split-screen is not the only way to use multiple controllers.Think sports games with teams populated entirely with human players. 451 -
precisely!Unregistered - hmm.. 05.14.2006 22:10 445, is homo and lesbians the or orgy the only things that come to ur mind!? Soccer games! i tink ur the type of gamer who sits at home and play by urself.. have u ever gone to chalets? bring along a ps3 and ur frenz will bring their controls and wala! btw i prefer playing against humans when it comes to sports.. coz they are more likely to err.. 452 -
you big meaniesUnregistered - (0 _0) 05.15.2006 00:42 #450 and #451 what ever you say: please explain? 7 people ? and how will it would be practical lol very funny 453 -
7 players..Unregistered - hmm.. 05.15.2006 02:19 hsve u ever watched soccer? u noe that theres 11 players to a team... 7 ppl meaning at least 3 players in one team at the same time competing with the other.. why not play with coms? becoz frenz are more fun, different skills and they are more prone to making mistakes.. we score against them, shout at them, criticize them.. makes gaming fun.. try doing that with the coms.. sure u beat world class levels.. who cares.. only those geeks will say stuff like dat.. we play with frenz for the fun of it.. if u wanna win, win against human.. of coz, this is when i play sports like soccer.. u guys mite prefer nhl? 454 -
nahUnregistered - Umdraco 05.15.2006 03:23 -im not gonna coment on price because i know only hardcore gamers will buy it. and thats not a good way to do bussiness -7- seriously? why not 6 or 8, why an oddball number like that? -Basic Community Services •Video Chat •Friends List •Ranking •Voice Messaging •Text Messaging •Account Mgt. •Player Profile •Latest Info All for free!!! Yahoo messenger has all that for free, minus ranking(do you really want to know how much that 12 year old is better than you?) -key franchises-lets just say that the presence of snake(MGS)and GTA in other consoles is a hint of things to come Who would pay 500$ for a system that is only that expensive due to a blue ray player that they cant use due to the fact that it doesnt have the ports (sounds like sony is bullying you to cough up an extra 100)at least with the xbox you can upgrade at you liking -its Big and ugly -it will not have a power brick, the ac adapter will be internal (over heating noisy, makes the system bigger) once that thing burns out you cant replace it you have to take your system to a shop -poor support from first party- where are the sony games? this system is going down 455 -
cum on man.. dont give subjective comments..Unregistered - hmm.. 05.15.2006 06:00 to u its ugly.. to some madden rocks.. to some madden sucks.. to some ff sux.. to some otherwise.. and pls, the beauty thing.. u may look gd to ur parents, but not to others.. same thing applies here in the design.. to me its sleek.. i prefer things that are round and smooth than sumthing thats concave..and 7 thingy, not 6 or 8? dats because the previous specs if im rite says it will support 7.. dont ask us or any1 else why.. im pretty sure most ppl here doesnt help sony with making the ps3.. im just glad it supports more than the conventional 4.. if it supports dat is.. 456 -
and the 12 yr old kid being better..Unregistered - hmm.. 05.15.2006 06:02 who the hell cares.. accept the fact that some ppl are better.. regardless of age.. dats it.. 457 -
fuksakeUnregistered - dipsht 05.15.2006 09:18 PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP AND SEE WHAT THE PS3 IS REALLY ABOUT .... IT'S NOT GAMING PEOPLE ...YOU ARE ALL PAWNS IN A FORMAT WAR...SONY IS TRYING TO USE YOU TO WIN!!!! WEATHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!!! 458 -
kindUnregistered - man 05.15.2006 09:20 There's a story making the rounds suggesting that the $500 PS3 "Core" system is missing something else in addition to the aforementioned Wi-Fi, HDMI, and memory card support: wireless controller functionality and an upgradable hard-drive. While the Xbox 360 Core system doesn't ship with wireless controllers, it does support them; however, Games Radar writes that "wireless Bluetooth controllers won't be supported" in the lower-priced PS3. Similarly, whereas the Xbox 360 Core system ships sans hard-drive, it is possible to add one and match the functionality of the more expensive offering. Games Radar writes that a "Sony representative on the show floor at E3 also emphasized that gamers won't be able to upgrade the memory of the 20GB version." 459 -
Unregistered - foss 05.15.2006 13:56 lmao. i can get a 360 AND a Wii with a couple of games for the price of the PS3. bad move by sony putting the price so high, very bad. they have just priced themselves out of the market. 460 -
"BAIT AND SWITCH"Unregistered - Mitz 05.15.2006 15:21 If you don't know what that is, look it up. Sony is doing it to you right now 461 -
458 learn what a rumer isUnregistered - boba bui 05.15.2006 15:36 A computer hard drive is always upgradable, sony will not turn down peoples money that want to get a larger hard drive, additionally a ps3 can also use a external hdd with the usb ports, therefore this rumer is not that big of a deal... blue tooth is so cheap that they will include it, get off the rumers from some randon website go see what sony said at its conference. don't flame me, 360 is a good system too, but i can only get one. 462 -
Unregistered - ORIEL 05.15.2006 16:54 i'll make it simple for you guys ... the ones who are not going to buy the PS3 PLEASE DONT ... because that way there will PS3 avalible for me to buy ... DONT BE SO CHEAP and save money and stop complaining ... 463 -
@462Unregistered - H3LL YEAH 05.16.2006 09:01 Oh yeah ... that's right.. please less people buy the PS3 so I have a chance to get one at the store. I love that idea. So everyone that thinks its too expensive or is not a great system. Keep saying it cause that means I might be able to pick up 2 when it comes out. Give me a break like its not going to sell out. LMAO!!! 464 -
Wth does wifi connection mean?Unregistered - >l< 05.16.2006 14:54 Wth does wifi connection mean? 465 -
Unregistered - . 05.16.2006 20:50 trust me there will be pleeeeenty of ps3's for you because no one in their right mind is going to buy it so they'll have'em all on the shelf for you. 466 -
Unregistered - Hirai defends 20GB PS3 model 05.17.2006 04:47 Hirai defends 20GB PS3 model by Greg Bergen In an interview with Kaz Hirai (President of S.C.E.A) during E3, blogger Todd Bishop asked fellow readers to submit questions they would like him to ask him. One question that was submitted in abundance was why Sony had changed directions and released 2 SKUs after openly critisizing Microsoft for their 2 SKU strategy. Hirai replied, "You'll notice that, as far as game play is concerned, there is no difference in the experience between the two configurations. The biggest difference there is the fact that the $499 configuration PlayStation 3 also has a hard drive in it." Hirai believes the main difference that sets the PS3's 2 SKU configuration apart from the Xbox360's is the standard HDD. "It's not a hard-drive-less model that you've got to go out and buy a hard drive for (as Microsoft's lower-priced Xbox 360 is)," quote Hirai. Hirai went on to say, "If you're going to take the consumers online and you don't have a hard drive, that detracts from the experience. You don't get an equal experience anymore. Between the two configurations (of the PS3), there is no difference in the experience to the consumer." Bishop was quick to point out that the 20GB PS3 was also missing other certain features. The $499 model lacks an HDMI port which many believe will not support 1080p or true high definition viewing. Hirai replied, "You still get 1080p even if you don't use the HDMI, so that's not a problem." In regards to slots for the removable flash cards Hirai stated, "We eliminated the slots for the removable flash card (in the lower-priced model) because there's a hard drive in it, and you can just store your game saves there. If you want to store something on a compact flash or a memory stick and give it to your friend, most people have those card readers for your PCs. Pop it in the USB port." Transporting save files between the PS3 will still be efficient and quick. PS3 owners can just use their USB memory sticks to put saved files onto, then transporting the files is fast and easy. There really is no need for the PS3 flash card reader unless you want to transport huge amounts of data. Hirai also addressed the WiFi issue, "If you want to take it (the $499 model) onto a wireless network that you have in the home, that's fine, just go out and buy a network adapter, pop it into the USB port and you're good to go." Consumers should be aware that when you buy the 60GB PS3, you will not have to go out and buy these accessories. That's what makes the $599 version a good deal. Sony wants to offer it's customers choice, if you buy the 20GB PS3 and buy a Wireless router later down the road, just buy a network adapter and BINGO, your 20GB PS3 now has WiFi capabilities. In closing Hirai left one last comment, "So there's nothing between the two configurations that says, 'Well, I could do this on the 60 gigabyte configuration but I can't do this on my 20 gigabyte configuration.' There's none of that." 467 -
Gears of war game play footageTHAMMER1 05.17.2006 10:25 http://media.xbox360.ign.com/articles/706/706460/vid_1496735.html check it out 468 -
Unregistered - PLEASE 05.17.2006 12:07 you can still get online with a memory card on 360. you don't need the hard drive for xbox live. 1.In regards to slots for the removable flash cards Hirai stated, "We eliminated the slots for the removable flash card (in the lower-priced model) because there's a hard drive in it, and you can just store your game saves there. If you want to store something on a compact flash or a memory stick and give it to your friend, most people have those card readers for your PCs. Pop it in the USB port." the high end model has a hard drive also. so why leave them in for it? trying to justify your price with something you just said is not needed for the experience. 2.Bishop was quick to point out that the 20GB PS3 was also missing other certain features. The $499 model lacks an HDMI port which many believe will not support 1080p or true high definition viewing. Hirai replied, "You still get 1080p even if you don't use the HDMI, so that's not a problem." so you're saying hdmi is not the advantage you initially claimed it to be, since the picture quality on both will be the same in phil harrison's own words. 3.Hirai also addressed the WiFi issue, "If you want to take it (the $499 model) onto a wireless network that you have in the home, that's fine, just go out and buy a network adapter, pop it into the USB port and you're good to go." same thing you can do with the 360, and it's still cheaper because the 360 is cheaper. 469 -
468 your right...Unregistered - boba bui 05.17.2006 14:44 your right its a $100 difference between 360 premium and ps3 core... The flash stuff is just convienence, I think the hdmi has a little advantage and also has something to do with security features that film makers want to put on hd movies. (someone who knows provide some info) Because the systems are so similar consider the tv you have or plan on getting in the next five years and games in the future and historically on systems. Can't show 1080p on virtually all current hdtv's but most new hdtv's comming out this year. There is no need to flame 470 -
Unregistered - a bad flu 05.17.2006 22:26 Kaz Hirai says a lot of things, this is HILARIOUS youtube.com/watch?v=pJElsNaC6yQ youtube.com/watch?v=pJElsNaC6yQ youtube.com/watch?v=pJElsNaC6yQ youtube.com/watch?v=pJElsNaC6yQ youtube.com/watch?v=pJElsNaC6yQ RIIIIIDGE RACERRRRR 471 -
LOL, LMAOUnregistered - HyperBear 05.18.2006 00:39 LOL, that was sooo hillarious #470. I advise everyone who was once a sony lover going into E3, but now a hater because of their put-down confrence to watch this. *Also recommmended for Xbox Fanboys, Nintendo Fanboys, People who hate Sony, and People who think Sony rules, which they dont, cause this movie sums your ps3 all in 1 minunte of total HILLARIOUS SH!T 472 -
Come with meTHAMMER1 05.18.2006 01:13 Every one who is really wanting to support the xbox 360 and its games come to this spot http://www.xbox360news.com/ it is a place where we can agree and enjoy or own reviews. I real am not exited about the PS3 but I really hard-core about my games and I want to share a real gamers experience and have intelligent debates. I have gotten tiered of talking to ps3 kats man they do not want to be bothered they are worried as we would be if we were them for real, at the 360 news its just like this site but it has all the 360 news we need. Besides* there is a lot of bad news here and negativity is contagious. Can you not tell from all the hate in here I bet some body will flame up my message which is the best post you hate mongers have read in months, So come on and lets get real come over to http://www.xbox360news.com/ Peace 473 -
Come with meTHAMMER1 05.18.2006 01:13 Every one who is really wanting to support the xbox 360 and its games come to this spot http://www.xbox360news.com/ it is a place where we can agree and enjoy or own reviews. I real am not exited about the PS3 but I really hard-core about my games and I want to share a real gamers experience and have intelligent debates. I have gotten tiered of talking to ps3 kats man they do not want to be bothered they are worried as we would be if we were them for real, at the 360 news its just like this site but it has all the 360 news we need. Besides* there is a lot of bad news here and negativity is contagious. Can you not tell from all the hate in here I bet some body will flame up my message which is the best post you hate mongers have read in months, So come on and lets get real come over to http://www.xbox360news.com/ Peace 474 -
Unregistered - Twist05 05.18.2006 13:59 Ijust got Xbox LIVE, and GRAW is amazing! Hit me up anyone!(Twist05) No headset thou. 475 -
XBOX 360 is top selling console of AprilUnregistered - twist05 05.18.2006 14:47 XBOX 360 is top selling console of April http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/17/xbox-360-is-aprils-top-selling-console/ According to sales data from NPD Group, the Xbox 360 was the top selling console for the month of April. Microsoft's 295,000 units edged out Sony's 205,000 units of the PlayStation 2. This may not be so surprising with more 360s in the pipeline after a long draught, and the Oblivion launch certainly didn't hurt, either. 476 -
PAUL CERULA 05.18.2006 18:40 For the benefit of everyone I feel the need to post breaking news PS3 exclusive DEVIL MAY CRY -- NO MORE ************************************************************************************************* http://www.pixelgamers.com/xbox360/news/1000628/35/ps3-exclusive-devil-may-cry-no-more.html ************************************************************************************************* Wasn't this a big deal for ps3 buyers??? Oh well, here's another one to the list of cross overs. 477 -
Why pay more for less?!Unregistered - Scotracer 05.18.2006 18:42 I don't understand why I would want to spend an extra £150 over a Xbox 360 to purchase a PS3. Even though it has Blu-ray (which has no use in this generation of games consoles) and Wi-FI as standard. It is just not worth it. Also the PS3 is less powerful than the 360, fact. So no fan-boys start shouting at me for that statement, because I have the facts to put you in your place. Yes, the Cell processor is mighty powerful, but not as a gaming console. For instance the 8 hardware threads in the processor can't be used simultaneously, they have to be selected according to requirements. This is refered to as a Master-slave system. The 360, on the other hand has 6 hardware threads, which can be accessed at any time. This is a much better architecture. Also concerning the RSX chip. It is not good enough, simple. It has less pixel processing power than the most recent nVidea card, for PCs. Even this one is rubbish in comparison to the 360's. So in terms of value, I just don't see any in the PS3. It WILL overheat, the games will be very expensive and in a year or two there will be a noticeable reduction in quality of titles, compared with the 360. Have the PS3 if you wish, but you will be disappointed when Halo 3 is released and you are stuck with your big black radiator. 478 -
NOT SURE YET!!Unregistered - JOHN VITIELLO 05.19.2006 10:20 TO BE HONEST , HAVENT SEEN ANY GAME YET TO MAKE ME WANT ONE FOR #600 YET ! BUT I'LL PRE ORDER ONE AS SOON THE ACCEPT PRE ORDERS!! WHEATER I PICK IT UP DEPENDS ON THE LAUCH GAMES, 360 HAS ONE HELL OF GAMES COMING OUT THIS HOILDAY SEASON SO WILL SEE, HAVEING BOTH CONSOLES WITH ONLINE SERVICE WILL BE AWESOME BUT PS3 HAS MOUNTAIN TO CLIMB IN ONLINE PLAY AND LAG ISSUES .. 479 -
#476, PaulBill Nye 05.19.2006 18:05 Dude, are you not reading the whole article or what? 1)It's an old rumor, and 2)It's been updated saying, "UPDATE - We have just received confirmation that this will indeed be a PlayStation 3 exclusive." Basically, shut up. K? Thanks. 480 -
Assasin's Creed on Xbox360Unregistered - truthbetold 05.19.2006 19:57 http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/709/709250p1.html 481 -
#480Bill Nye 05.19.2006 20:45 What is with you idiots? Where does it say anything about Assassin's Creed being on 360? These are just the IGN 360 editors' favorite picks of E3 and they span all platforms (see Crysis, Spore listed, too). If you want to at least -try- and look clever, post a better article... like this one: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=24636503 "What's "official" and what's going to happen are two different things. PS3 exclusive? Likely Bogus." I don't know why I waste time correcting your dumbasses, but I guess I just like pointing out how stupid you are. 482 -
PAUL CERULA 05.19.2006 23:25 Bill Nye I posted that days ago cause the article was on xbox360news.com and not this one. Since it's quite important to both fan bases I posted it. Don't be too quick to jump the gun. It wasn't a mistake or act of ignorance at the time. 483 -
Why The PS3 Will RockUnregistered - haha 05.20.2006 11:03 Ok, enough with all the doom and gloom, right now the PS3 is reeling from a somewhat lackluster E3 showing and the negative publicity that comes with announcing a high priced piece of hardware. It's time to put put some things in perspective. The real reason behind all the hubbub is that for the first time in ten years of being on top Sony appears vulnerable, and Microsoft and Nintendo fanboys are relishing every second. Appearances can be deceiving. 1) The PS3 games at E3 may not have looked leaps and bounds above what's on the 360, but there are months of development time left, titles like Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, and Resistance: Fall of Man already look fantastic. 2) The only 360 game I saw on the show floor that really impressed me and that made me want a 360 was Gears of War. At the Sony booth I had fun with Motorstorm, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword and Resistance: Fall of Man, heck just days after E3 I found myself wishing I could get my hands on them again. I felt no such pining for most of the 360 games, Crackdown? Shadow Run? Saints Row? Please. 3) Nintendo isn't a threat (no offense), they've successfully targeted a different demographic and aim to coexist with Sony and Microsoft, that's why the "PSWii" and "Wii60" avatars are so popular all of a sudden. While the Wii is going to be fun, there are certain epic experiences you just won't be able to get on it. 4) The controller will be a hit, I know because I've held it. For all this talk of innovation the fact is most of us still play games the same way, with a standard controller (why do you think Ninty's releasing a "shell" for the WiiMote?) Many would agree that the Dual Shock design is perfect, which is why there was such a big ruckus when the boomerang pad was shown, why break what 'aint broke right? Sony's new controller keeps all the best bits of the old Dual Shock while infusing added functionality and control via the L2, R2 trigger buttons and tilt sensitivity. And all this noise about Sony copying Nintendo? Who really cares, Sony "copied" the analog stick and rumble feature from the N64 controller and implemented a better solution, who's to say the same won't be the case here? 5) Sony has the most powerful hardware. Sorry Microsoft fanboys but it's true, and even you know it, right now you're going through the same denial Sony fanboys went through when the original Xbox specs were announced. The evidence might not be so apparent just now, but it will become so in the future, this first generation of launch titles is looking just as good, if not a little better than the second generation of 360 titles. That says something. 6) You'll get used to the price, and realise it's probably worth it. Considering what you get in the package, a blu-ray player, 60GB hard drive, the ability to run Linux and homebrew, wifi, memory card slots, a fully fledged media centre and the most powerful gaming machine ever to grace God's green earth, $600 really isn't that steep. 7) Sony still has the biggest guns. There's just no challenging Sony's lineup, let's quickly run though a list of titles that traditionally debut on Sony hardware: Onimusha: We haven't heard a peep yet, but you can bet it's in development and if it's predecessors are anything to go by, it'll blow us away.Devil May Cry Devil May Cry: Personally, I say to hell with all the rumors, this one's coming to the PS3 first and it'll most likely stay there. DMC was notably absent at E3, and now we know why. Come the Tokyo Game Show we'll get our hands on a playable build of this delightfully devilish dish. Ratchet and Clank: The short clip we've seen looks amazing, Insomniac are witches, and they've cast a spell on us. Jak and Daxter: Naughty Dog are capable of doing things with Sony hardware that would make you swear the team thinks in binary. Rumors abound of an MMO set in the Jak universe, the idea of a Massively Multiplayer Online Adventure Platformer has me bouncing off the walls.Gran Turismo Gran Turismo: It has to be emphasised that you haven't seen a single frame of GT5. What was shown at E3 was GT4 running in 1080p. PGR what? God of War: It's coming, it has to be... and it will make you its manslave. Can you even fathom how amazing it'll be fighting a giant kracken in high resolution, blood spurting and scales glistening as twin blades cut arcs of death through the frigid air? Can you? Silent Hill: Think back to the first time Silent Hill mentally scarred you. God Of War Final Fantasy: You will be ownt. Kingdom Hearts: Considering how good these games looked on the PS2 hardware, Shadow of the Colossus: You didn't play Shadow, you experienced it Metal Gear Solid: Kojima's MGS games have always resonated with emotional and philosophical depth, the technical and visual artistry on display knows no peer. Plus they' re damn cool. Castlevania: Symphony of The Night, but real this time. Let's see it Konami. SOCOM: With the power of the PS3 behind them, Zipper will finally be able to deliver a SOCOM experience that runs smoothly,Shadow of the Colossus looks great and delivers depth of gameplay we all know and love. Wipeout: I'd be surprised if we didn't hear something about a Wipeout game coming to PS3 very soon and considering how much fun Wipeout pure was, a next gen Wipeout is a civic responsibility. Lair: Have you seen this game!? No one knows exactly what it's about, but holy aunt Jemima does it looks tasty! Soul Reaver: Probably the most intricate and detailed story ever written for a videogame, the Soul Reaver series needs a PS3 entry. There's no evidence of a new game in the works but it would kick much buttock to wander the landscape of Nosgoth powered by the PS3...oh, oh, Nosgoth Online! Soul Reaver Killzone: Conspicuously absent at E3, rumor has it Sony didn't want to take the focus off Resistance: Fall of Man. When next we see Killzone, it'll be big, very big Bottom line is that E3 was only the tip of the PlayStation iceberg and it focused mainly on launch window titles and new IP's, Sony's saving the big guns, and it won't be long before we start seeing and hearing more from them. http://ps3.qj.net/Why-The-PS3-Will-Rock/pg/49/aid/42351 484 -
360 ISSUESUnregistered - J 05.20.2006 12:56 http://www.gametrailers.com/ THEY DONT HAVE MUCH FAITH IN THE 360...LOL.... check out the video GEARS OF WAR E3 2K6 BACK STAGE PASS "WE PRETTY MUCH VERIFIED IT IT DOESN'T WORK ANYWHERE, ITS NOT JUST THE 360'S".... YES THEY ARE HAVING ISSUES WITH 360!!! 485 -
XBOX FANBOYS ARE 12 YEAR OLD V GIRLSUnregistered - J 05.20.2006 13:10 people are not playing the 360 cause they can't!..it's broke... I feel no guilt paying 500.00 for a ps3 cause It should last the next 5 years like my ps1 and ps2 did. why is everyone bashing sony?..There doing no more wrong than Microsoft... Microsoft.lies.and ripoff.. 1ST OFF 100.00 20 gig harddrive..sorry but thats crazy. most Every game on the system is buggy. and only run at 30frames. Peter moore at E3 2005: everygame will be online and every game will have anti aliasing !...I dont see any....? Fake Microsoft 360 videos shown at E3 2005: SAINTS ROW,MADDEN,PGR,NEED FOR SPEED. And can't and never will forget the fake HALO 2 VIDEO FROM E3 2003..... Microsoft said HALO 3 will come out at PS3 launch...NOPE! Microsodt said they spent the last 3 years makeing the 360..well if thats true then why all the problems The 360 cannot use all 3 cores as of now,with only 1 the CPU is overheating,thats why microsoft is manufacturing a new cooler running CPU for the 360 next year,so pretty much everone that has a 360 now has been FOCKED. so more than likely nobody will see hardly any 360 games running with AA on or at 60 frames till next year..360 does have issues with heat. Most people that bought a 360 have or will have to repare the system with in a 5 months..I know of 6 people myself that have.. even a few times already. Never has there been a system launch as bad as this and people really don't mind... I won't buy a 360 till next year. All I have to say is if MICROSOFT can do it so can sony!..fact.. the 360 + XBL 50-70 per yrd... 400 + 50/70 = 450 to 470$ compare that to the 500$ ps3 with blu-ray player... 486 -
oblivionUnregistered - j 05.20.2006 13:14 OBLIVION IS COMMING TO THE PS3 AND IT WILL LOOK THE PC VERSION AND RUN AT 60 FRAMES.... 360= CRAP..400.00 JOKE 487 -
NOW YOU CAN PLAY YOUR 360Unregistered - J 05.20.2006 16:21 http://www.pixelgamers.com/xbox360/news/1000639/24/new-360-cooler-in-the-works.html COOL YOUR 360'S --50.00-- UNTIL THE NEWER VERSION COMES OUT NEXT YEAR... AND PAY ANOTHER 400.00 FOR THE NEW 360:) 488 -
Ahhh yesBill Gates 05.20.2006 20:38 Everyone Ignore the XBOT ROBOTS. This is a hella good time to be a Sony fanboy. The PS3 WILL kick ass no matter what their moronic brains think. * $600 is a bargain with all that you get. * 1x Gigabit Ethernet * Wireless Bluetooth 2.0 connectivity for up to seven Motion controllers instead of 2.4GHz RF * Wi-Fi wireless built-in (802.11b/g) * 60GB * 1x HDMI video output * Free Online gaming * The PSP will be able to function as a remote control or as a sort of controller for the PlayStation 3 (if you have one) * Blu-ray optical-disc drive for true High Def. movies * Each Blu-ray disc can hold up to 54GB worth of data, which should virtually guarantee that games won't be left wanting for extra media space. * Games will be region-free, but movies will still have region locks preventing multiregional playback. However, according to Japanese IT Media, the Blu-ray spec now has North America, South America, and Asia (except for China) in region 1. If the spec doesn't change, that means your US PlayStation 3 should be able to play those Blu-ray Godzilla movies imported from Japan. * PS3 will also be backward compatible with PlayStation and PlayStation 2 games. * Also, you will be able to recharge the controller by connecting it to the PlayStation 3 with a USB cable. * The CPU has an eighth SPE for "redundancy." IBM has stated that the first prototypes have weighed in with 234 million transistors each. To put things into perspective, desktop PC processor manufacturer Intel only broke into the 200-million transistor range with its dual-core Pentium Processor Extreme Edition chip, which was released in early 2005. * The Cell processor will also be powerful enough to drive a new class of gameplay physics * The PS3 will jump out ahead in hardware performance. It turns out that the RSX and GeForce 7800 GTX share a similar architecture, but the RSX is still slightly faster. Nvidia has since released its GeForce 7900 GTX refresh part, but the PlayStation 3 still has an advantage in that the entire system is built specifically for gaming instead of general processing. * Since your PS3 is meant to always stay on and always connected, it follows that any media stored on your PS3, such as music and movies, could be accessed remotely through your PSP. Imagine you're on vacation and have burned through your entire MP3 playlist on your 512MB memory stick. Wouldn't it be nice to walk into a café with free Wi-Fi access, dump those songs, and get a fresh playlist or a few videos off your PS3 at home? * And last but not least, THE GAMES, ah yes, you gotta love those games. 489 -
SONY JUST GIVE IT UP.Unregistered - R.I.P. SONY 05.20.2006 21:15 http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=17105 UK boss Ray Maguire defends "bargain" next-gen system as UK pricing plans emerge Sony Computer Entertainment UK MD Ray Maguire has revealed that PlayStation 3 will retail for GBP 425 when it launches in the UK on November 17th." GBP 425 =$803 U.S. GBP 425 =$900 CDN Price listed is for 60GB model-20GB version will not be available in U.K. It gets worse.... Sony of Australia officially announced their price at Launch: 60GB=$999 AUS 20GB=$829 AUS Needless to say, Sony has commited seppuku with these prices... Microsoft FTW 490 -
^^^^^^^^^Unregistered - BlindMan 05.20.2006 21:44 You've been posting this Sh*t on evey PS3 article, aren't you tired of that copy and past? If the Us currency have more value in those countries it is fact that when you convert it from their currency into US currency, it will always be higher, so what's the problem, to them even though it might be more than $600, but it is the equvalent of that ammount. I bet that you have never been nowhere except your front porch. Man, it's good sometime to read, travel, and watch the news, so you can learn more about the world, as it is obvious that you know nothing, what you care about is that "Oh it's $800, nobody will buy it" guess again, that price is the equivalent in currency for those particular countries in regard to the US currency. It' not like they are charging them $200 more. You better spend more time learning thing than copy and past on the PS3 site. 491 -
Stupidity rule your brains Sony fans!Unregistered - Wise Gamer 05.20.2006 22:56 Come on plz!!! $500 or $600 for a Videogame console ? NO Rumble!!!, No 1080p in the $500!!! ? I jump from Sony 1 to Xbox 1 and im still alive!!!! you are not going to die if you jump in (xbox360), but if you stay with sony and buy a ps3 you are going to starve!!! 492 -
Unregistered - a bad flu 05.21.2006 01:46 MORE THAN 70% IN 5 YEARS WILL STILL HAVE NORMAL CRT'S NOT HDTV'S SO TELL ME WHY AVERAGE PEOPLE WOULD SPEND 200$ MORE FOR A BLU-RAY PLAYER. And by the way everyone on this forum is not the casual or average gamer. 493 -
Why are people so stupid?Alexander 05.21.2006 08:21 No 360 games are running at 60fps with AA??? Youre an idiot, simple as that, and the thing things you said could easily be shot down. I really cannot be arsed to do so, but anyone her should know that most of what you said is bull - even if they are a PS3 fan. 494 -
Unregistered - Insane 05.21.2006 08:56 600 dollars thats one month rent sorry sony not this time 495 -
Unregistered - Saulice 05.21.2006 09:03 how could anybody justify paying that much for a game console. I work way to hard for my money I have to pass as well. may be 4 years from now when its half price 496 -
Unregistered - scratch 05.21.2006 09:07 I paid 200 last year for my ps2 and I still feel like I paid to much 497 -
LaughableUnregistered - Scotracer 05.21.2006 12:56 I can't wait until about a month after the PS3 launch, and all the Sony fan-boys are tearing their hair out, realising that the Xbox 360 is the superior console and they have wasted a hell of alot of money. £425 for a games console?!??!?! NO THANKS 498 -
he** yeahsUnregistered - knight345 05.21.2006 14:02 ps3 is coming out. too bad i cant pre order it so ihave 2 wait inline 4 6 hours.who cares theps3 willbe her nov 17 06 at 12:00 friday yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah 499 -
lets Unregistered - monolith 05.21.2006 15:42 lets just make this 500 comments 500 -
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!Unregistered - monolith 05.21.2006 15:44 there we go 500 comments and its pretty much xbox fanboys talking idiots go play crapbox 501 -
HAHAUnregistered - HyperBear 05.21.2006 16:01 HAHA, im an Xbox fanboy, but i dont mind playstation, and ghuess what faggots, I just made it # 501. Whatcha gonna do about u Sony FOCKERS. HAHAHAHA. LOL. Cant wait for PS3, although it will be 735Cdn, after taxes, which is really pissing me off. FOCK 502 -
Unbelieveable..........Unregistered - DarkPrinynce 05.21.2006 19:09 All of you that posted something stupid, really need to get a life. People don't give a damn about your opinions and and what you think. The Rock said it best. It is just gaming consoles people! Grow up!!!!!! It you dont want to buy it, then don't!!! Nobody is going to make you get one unless you are fighting with yourself and want one, but can't afford it so you bash the system. Ya'll do yourselves a favor and try to get a life!! Try to look in a mirror and analyze yourselfs. I guarantee if the xbox was that much, it would of came with a hd-dvd, but it doesn't. A corporation has there own means of a strategy and I am glad they did not back down. They are already losing money selling it at that price. Honestly, I am glad Sony did not back down from the price because it really would of been sad to see Sony go bankrupt just to please your sorry asses. Ya'll can say what you want about this post, I am done. 503 -
The Big Picture!!!!!Unregistered - HyperBear 05.22.2006 02:17 kk, I have had enough of this bullshit about xbox fanboys saying that PS3 sucks cause of the price, and PS fanboys saying Xbox 360 is a ripoff and not next-gen. ALL OF YOU FOCKERS NEED TO REALIZE SOMETHING. ITS ALL ABOUT THE GAMES. Who gives a fock if ps3 has like 8 SPE cores, and an RSX + Cell processor, and Blu-Ray, making it the fastest and most powerful gaming system yet. It can have all those technologies, but right now, im not seeing any good games that stand out for the PS3, except for MGS4. But I'm both an Xbox and PS fanboy, and I got to say, this is ridiculous. Hearing ppl calling M$ ripoffs and liars, then hearing ppl calling PS3, a Piece of Sh!t, just because of the, and I have to say as well, ridiculuos pricing. But hey, I plan on getting PS3, day 1 when it comes out. If you like something a lot and can afford it, then get it. But if ur like some Xbox Fanboys that say, HOLY FOCK, 599 for a fricken system (and I was one of those guys that pissed off a lot of Sony ppl by saying WTF was SONY thinking). But that that some of you sony fanboys have said ur stuff, im starting to believe PS3 is equally good, if not just a little better than the Xbox 360. But Im still a fan of anything Xbox and Xbox 360. All sony really needs to do now, is just get some good exclusive games for ps3, that I cant get for my 360. 504 -
RE: BIG PICTUREUnregistered - JOHN VITIELO 05.22.2006 14:44 I AGREE 100 % YOU SAID JUST WHAT I BEEN SAYING SINCE E3 , IT ALL ABOUT THE GAMES, XBOX LIVE IS AWESOME AND IAM SURE PS3 ONLINE WILL BE GREAT TOO!!BOTH COSOLES WILL BE VERY POWERFULL CONSOLES, IAM OUT!!!! 505 -
euro trashUnregistered - veryprettyboylovesthex 05.23.2006 13:00 HAHA EURO TRASH HAVE TO PAY $800.00 FOR A PS3 XD AND THER NOT SELLING THE LOW PRICE ONE OVER TOO.LOL JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW, THER IS AN UP DATE OF THE PRICE ON GAMEPRO.COM LOL 506 -
WHAT COLOR ?Unregistered - JOHN VITIELLO 05.23.2006 16:32 IS THE PS3 GOING TO BE BLACK ONLY ? WHAT HAPPENED TO SILVER OR WHITE ! THE SILVER LOOKED THE BEST.........TIRED OF BLACK CONSOLES PS2 XBOX 1 SEGA 507 -
Re: What Color?Unregistered - HyperBear 05.23.2006 18:16 The color of the system at launch date will be black w/ chrome, if you get the 599 version, but for 499, you dont get that chrome finish. Just like the Xbox 360 did with theirs. The Silver and White colors will be available on the 2nd and 3rd shipments of the system, so by the time they've reached 6 million units, all 3 colors will be available to get.this is how it works out according to Sonys Press Conference: Launch Date: Only Black will be available by December 31, 2006: Black and White will be avaible by E3 2007: Silver will be added and all 3 colors will be available Now dont quote me on this, cause im just guessing that thats what they'll do once one shipment has sold out, and bring in the new color. But for now, all I know is that only Black will be available one Launch Day. 508 -
RE RE COLOR INFOUnregistered - JOHN VITIELLO 05.23.2006 18:59 thanks for the info i'll wait for silver for sure or trade up later 509 -
PS3 movie!Unregistered - PS3 05.24.2006 03:00 See this great PS3 movie! IT KICKS ASS!!! http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/3897 510 -
PROOF that the 360 is more powerfulSir Nathaniel 05.25.2006 15:42 Honestly people, doin ur frikin hw! Not a single ps3 fanboy has posted anytype of evidence that backs their arguement wen sayin the ps3 is more powerful. Know why that is? --CUZ IT'S NOT! There has been proof, time and again that the 360 is more powerful than ps3, which is no surprise after seeing how the orginal xbox was twice as powerful as ps2. Here's your PROOF: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html --complete proof of the 360's superiority http://www.x360central.com/?n=582 --detailed analysis of GPU http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=14477 --evidence http://ps3.ign.com/articles/705/705887p1.html --downsides of ps3 Now before one of you ps3 fanboys tries to argue again, try and find some evidence to back your arguements (I highly doubt you'll even be able to find VALID evidence considering I already posted complete PROOF) Of course, as many on both sides have said, it rlly depends on the games, I had a ps2, and hated the games and wished I had an xbox, and was goin t get one, but then heard of the 360, and waited, and now I've been havin the most fun I've ever had videogaming! It's not that hard to switch over, it was quite easy! Add Comment |
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