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08 May 2006 22:10 | Dusty | Playstation 3 PS3Today.com | Link to this article
Sony announced today that it would launch the PS3 in “Clear Black” in mainland Europe, US and Australasia on November 17, 2006, as part of a worldwide simultaneous launch. The PS3 will be equipped with Blu-ray and Pre-Installed HDD and be available at €499 (20GB HDD) and €599 (60GB HDD) in Europe, and $499 and $599 in the US. PS3 is the most advanced computer system that serves as a platform to enjoy next generation computer entertainment contents in the home, realized through the combination of Cell and RSX processors, in addition to the playability of a vast catalog of PlayStation and PlayStation 2 software titles. Having Giga-bit Ethernet and a pre-installed hard disk drive (HDD) as standard in PS3, users will be able to download a variety of contents as well as access on-line games and services over the network. Equipped with basic input/output ports, PS3 supports a broad range of displays from conventional NTSC/PAL standard TVs to the latest full HD (1080i/1080p) flat panel displays, offering the joy of the most advanced computer entertainment contents to homes around the world. For use in living rooms, maximum heat and noise reduction has been achieved with a noise level equivalent to that of the current slim-line PlayStation 2. With the overwhelming computational power of the Cell processor, PS3 is capable of playing back content from Blu-ray (BD) disc at a bit rate of multiplex 48Mbps with ease, the maximum bit rate defined in BD standards. The new controller for PS3 has been created by refining and improving the world’s most popular PlayStation controller which has shipped more than several hundred million units worldwide. The controller for PS3 employs a high-precision, highly sensitive six-axis sensing system that is capable of processing all parameters within the controller itself, thereby eliminating the need for any additional settings on the display system. By applying this technology, it will become possible to freely control the PS3 system over the network. While further enhancing the joy of entertainment on PlayStation 2 and PSP™ (PlayStation®Portable), SCEE will vigorously promote PS3 as the next generation computer entertainment platform. PLAYSTATION®3 Product name: PLAYSTATION®3 CPU: Cell Processor GPU: RSX™ Sound: Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-based processing) Memory: 256MB XDR Main RAM, 256MB GDDR3 VRAM HDD: 2.5” Serial ATA ? (20GB) ? (60GB) I/O: USB 2.0 ? (x4) MemoryStick /SD/CompactFlash - ? Communication: Ethernet ? (x1 / 10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) IEEE 802.11 b/g - ? Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR) ? Wireless controller (Bluetooth) ? AV Output: Screen size 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p HDMI OUT - ? (x1 / HDMI NextGen) AV MULTI OUT ? (x1) DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) ? (x1) BD/DVD/CD Drive (Read Only): Maximum Read Speed BD 2x (BD-ROM) DVD 8x (DVD-ROM) CD 24x (CD-ROM) SACD 2x Dimensions: Approximately 325mm (W) x 98mm (H) x 274mm (D) Weight: Approximately 5 kg Source: Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Add Comment Unregistered - Bah 05.08.2006 22:20 Ripoff in Europe....like usual. DarkLegacy 05.08.2006 22:24 Guess everyone that screamed $399 on this forum can completly throw that out of the window. Even I was off cus I was thinking $499 for the system with the 60 gig Drive. It better be damn well packaged for $599 or it will look like the Neo Geo. And looking at what games were showed, some that CLEARLY showed fram droppages & slowdown, Im was not very impressed at all. The best game they showed was FFXIII in my opinion. Some of it was in game footage & it looked pretty good. A Majority of the later games were all CGI. Only a handful were In Game. Unregistered - tatmellmaster 05.08.2006 22:33 all this new infor is gettin me real excited Bill Gates 05.08.2006 22:35 Overall this is a good price for the system considering it's it not an upgraded PS2. This is an actual Next Gen. system that will without a doubt deliver in many ways than just visuals. I think the controller will definitely add to a better game play experience once developers begging to implement it. .....I only have one question....Gran Turismo HD; can someone please clarify this one for me? I mean, was it the actual look of GT5 or was the PS3 running an HD demo @ 60 fps, and with incredible sound just to show a little more of what is capable of. Unregistered - exsony fan 05.08.2006 22:45 It was cgi sorry. Sony let us down.I'm buying a 360 Unregistered - mark 05.08.2006 22:46 all it was was GT:4 made into HD....1080p....he said that GT5 will be well beyond GT:HD.... Unregistered - so what 05.08.2006 22:47 it was not cgi and go buy a 360 who the fuk cares Unregistered - HAHA 05.08.2006 22:47 "5 - @4 Unregistered - exsony fan 05.08.2006 22:45 It was cgi sorry. Sony let us down.I'm buying a 360" that is a funny joke....considering he was playing it.... Bill Gates 05.08.2006 22:48 That's what I thought, but I just wanted to be certain with a second opinion. Thanks #6 Fukc off #5 :) Unregistered - Sony fanmail 05.08.2006 22:51 I thought it was going to have 2x HDMI? Oh well. Looks like I will have to go for the 60gb drive. I wish it was like 360 so if I ever got it full I could pop it off and replace it with a empty one. Maybe with all those different connections...never mind, forget that idea. Oh well I guess 60 Gb will have to do. So far the screenshots look worthy!! I wonder if the closeups headshots of the Final Fantasy characters were realtime. If so they rival the detail in Advent Children. WoW Bill Gates 05.08.2006 22:52 I don't think he was actually playing it man. He was using the controller to select the cars andstages but other than that I think it was all AI controlled. Not shooting your comment down trust me, I'm a huge GT fan. It's the only reason why I even watched the confrence to begin with. I'm just calling it like I saw it. Unregistered - Kyle 05.08.2006 22:59 Wow you people need to calm down. If you expected a price tag of anything less then no offence but you are retarted. 500 and 600 is an attainable sum of money people. I know it takes a bit of effort but most people who can save 400 for a premium 360 can save a bit more and get a 20GB PS3 cuz 20 GB is more than enough. Hell im 15 and i can save that much by August if i dont spend my money on useless stuff, i dont even have a job. And no im not rich just to clear that out just smart with money. Deal with it people, I know you will regret getting a 360 when i rub it in your face later. Unregistered - pat 05.08.2006 22:59 Well I hate to say I told ya so, but ....... and to be up-front, after what I saw on the live feed, I don't think I will be buying a PS3 anytime soon. The games that I am interested in are not exclusive and can be played just as well on another machine for far less money. Unregistered - Meh 05.08.2006 23:02 Are you on crack ?? Did you watch the E3 feed ?? They showed nothing to make me want to run out and spend this kind of cash on it. As was stated, games shown "LACKED" big time and the rest was nice movies of cinematic. Even the Looooonnnnnggggggg winded GT demo was nothing more than just what you would see as a replay ... "NOT IN GAME" Bill Gates 05.08.2006 23:03 Basic Community Services •Video Chat •Friends List •Ranking •Voice Messaging •Text Messaging •Account Mgt. •Player Profile •Latest Info All for free!!! Unregistered - BlindMan 05.08.2006 23:05 you guys are so dumd some times, while you keep on saying that Sony sucked, well all the major games sites are reporting the event as a MONSTER SHOW. Relax, playables games will be on the floor when the companies have their Press Conference, today was Sony's Press Conference, just like tomorrow will be MS and Nintendo's time to show, they won't have playable games too, but from the 12th to the 15th everything will be open to the public. It's a week long show you morons. Anyway $500 for me is a damn good price giving, how the talk is at gamespot, they liked it. xbox360rocks 05.08.2006 23:05 I feel bad saying this, lmao, but god am I happy I chose the 360, oh and I TOLD YA SO, hehehe Bill Gates 05.08.2006 23:10 ignore #17 he's only 9 years old. Unregistered - f 05.08.2006 23:16 Number 15 XBL has that same sh!t for free as well Unregistered - tatty 05.08.2006 23:17 I have a 360 and am more of a ps fan and anticipating the ps3. YOu are jsut being ignorant to say the 360 is better. It clearly is not. SOny has a better controller, online(free), games(because of companies nad the fact they are on blu-ray), and the systemn itself. I love my 360 and am not saying it is a bad system, but i believe the PS3 will be a little better. Unregistered - mathis 05.08.2006 23:18 XBL doesnt have that free..... dream on Unregistered - dsfsdf 05.08.2006 23:20 Watched the hole damn thing on gamespot. Sad to say it but its gonna be a long time before I get a ps3. The HD GT trailer was nice... but I cannot take anything sony gives me at face value. The controller does not interest me... its sad that sony and MS are stealing nintendo's ideas (MS patended motion detection technology so expect something out of them soon also). Final Fantasy will draw me to the ps3.. only thing I am excited about. Oh and once again sony lied... you know.. that thing about there being two hdmi outputs... And once again sony refuses to remake their controller design. The 360 controllers beats the ps2 style hands down. If microsoft is going to have the show everyone is expecting... things will not be looking good. Being with Sony for the past ten years is great... time to move on. Unregistered - player1 05.08.2006 23:20 lets see,...what will I do come november, buy a $600 ps3 with a few games available or buy a re-priced premium $300 xbox360 with tons of games available,....hmm.......so should I get next-gen graphics for $300 or $600....hmm....I wonder what I should do................................. Bill Gates 05.08.2006 23:22 It's only for free for the week of E3, you.......D I P S H ! T !!!!! Unregistered - sadasd 05.08.2006 23:23 LOL number #19 could you please explain to me what on that list is for the sony service and not XBL??? I cannot wait to hear this.... dip sh!t Unregistered - wii 05.08.2006 23:24 u don't have a 360 Bill Gates 05.08.2006 23:25 you should eat your mother out. LOL Fukc it I know I'm getting a PS3 at launch and a Wii. So it's time for some insults..lol Unregistered - BlindMan 05.08.2006 23:28 For all of you saying that Sony lied, the major game sites are reprting a different story and i can back this up, you can tell by the way they write that it was MONSTER SHOW with playables games still comming later this week http://ps3.ign.com/articles/705/705742p1.html Now you wanna still get a 360 go ahead but don't say i din't warn you. HOORAH Unregistered - ya man 100 grand 05.08.2006 23:29 I SAW E3, AND I THOUGHT SONY DID A GOOD JOB WIT SOME OF THEIR GAMES.. BUT THAT PRICE IS CRAZY, IM GONNA HAV TO SELL A KIDNEY TO EVEN TOUCH THE CONTROLLER.. BUT THAT IS STILL A GOOD DEAL CONSIDERING WHAT IT CAN DO.. FOR THOSE WHO SAY THAT THEY SHOULD GET A 360.. YOULL REGRET IT.. Unregistered - wii 05.08.2006 23:29 u don't have da money get both your 2year old. Unregistered - player1 05.08.2006 23:30 No thanks my mom is too ugly. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha sticks and stones biach Unregistered - Flame 05.08.2006 23:32 They first Copyed Xbox Live and the Two price pack,( like the core and premium package)and now they copyed the Wii Controller. This is an insult to the console Wars, more like a war that's been cheated. At last Sony revealed the price at $600 dollars( I knew it all along). Xbox360 doesn't need to down the price of the 360 to win. Microsoft bring on the SECOND WAVE OF GAMES THAT WILL END THIS WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Bring on Too Human, Gears of War, HaloMMO or Halo 3, Huxley, Lost Planet, Mass Effect, Crackdown and a whole bunch of others for reinforcements. Nuff Said. Bill Gates 05.08.2006 23:37 learn how to write the English language before you try insulting people, You Dip s)-(it former questionmark 05.08.2006 23:37 the only thing that's not free for xbox live on that list is video chat. silver service is free and does everything else on there. Unregistered - XBOX 360 FANBOY 05.08.2006 23:44 XBOX LIVE SERVICE IS $50 A YEAR THATS CHEAP. Unregistered - jj 05.08.2006 23:47 xbox 360 is 400 / ps3 is 500 with a blu-ray player its not to bad Unregistered - Nameless 05.08.2006 23:50 If you don't believe me check this out: http://www.metalgearsolid.org/downloads/metalgearsolid4e3.divx All done with the realtime engine, simply amazing... Peace Unregistered - boba bui 05.08.2006 23:57 MS has deceptive pricing, 399 for system 200 for hd-dvd (eventually your gonna need it, maybe 300 for brd) 60 a year for xbl = 300 for 5 years grand total = $899 this is def not priceless, I'll take ps3 for 499 Unregistered - wake up and get a life 05.08.2006 23:59 I like video games as much as the next guy, I have read about the ps3 developement for 4 or so years now, I can honestly say that through all of my analysis, sony knows what they are doing. Sony is one of the biggest electronics comapanies in the world and has done a damn good job with video games. They are only going to price it at 500 dollars BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT IS WORTH. It has more next gen technologies than a top of the line pc priced at thousands! Calm down people... sonys got their sh*t together Chaos73 05.08.2006 23:59 Ok....I cant wait to see Nintendo and MS go next...then we can compare a little better..... I know I have been blasting away since I watched that crap from Sony tonight........ Glad I got my 360......Can't wait to see what Wii is going to offer...and what MS has new coming out..... How much you wanna bet that MS announces that Live will now be a free service for everything...... If they do this....Sony is gonna have a hard time beating them in this war. Listen Sony will get it's fair share of the market....but I would bet anything that the huge lead they have had in the market shrinks to something more like this. Sony 38% MS 42% Wii 20% I guess time will tell..... THAMMER1 05.09.2006 00:02 IT still has to make games that make me want it. The only game is tekken 6 and that is not enough for me to spend $500.00 - $600.00. Not even a blue ray player is worth that. I already have a 360. I might get the PS3 if they pump up some good games. Or even a price drop would be good. But I know I’m getting a Wii for real. Unregistered - Hmm 05.09.2006 00:03 If they say LIVE is free, I just bought my membership and what some $$$$ back. Or convert it to MS Gamer Points. Chaos73 05.09.2006 00:05 That market share reminded me alot of the Presidential race back in 92...... Sony = George Bush (I voted for) MS = Bill Clinton (hated the guy) Wii = Ross Perot (funny little bastard) If it wasnt for Wii and Ross Perot....Sony and George would have won.... so my perdictions may ring true....MS wins this round.....maybe even Next...But Sony comes back eventually....with the PS5....which = George W Bush. Chaos73 05.09.2006 00:08 Yeah...thats what I have heard anyways that they will anounce it will become a free service and anyone that has bought into it already will be compensated with Gamer Points or whatever.... The only reason I have waited to get my subscription was to see what they announce tomorrow....My free month's trial runs out this weeked I think.....so I hope they do it soon... Unregistered - PS3 Fan 05.09.2006 00:09 £340 for PS3 with 20Gb hard drive/£410 for PS3 with 60Gb hard drive,great prices. Unregistered - TheAnomaly aka Player1 aka TheOne 05.09.2006 00:21 With the ps2 sony was still losing money even after they redesigned it to be smaller but this time they can't opt to be cheap like that thanks to the true innovators in video gaming MS. MS deserves to be on top. Unregistered - 360/ps3 05.09.2006 01:00 lol yeah 36 you keep thinkin that and all that money and hype and the ps3 wont even have rumble feature for the controller....see when you look at the two systems your tradin one thing for anotha it all come down to preference. ps3, blu tooth but no rumble for the controller. 360, no blue tooth but has great rumble feat. ps3, blu ray disk. 360, custom soundtrack in games. ps3, 60 gb hdd that developers can depend on. 360, 20 gb hdd for custom soundtracks and various feats. I mean you get the idea right.... Basically with the ps3 you payin for the blu ray disks. Personally i prefer the 360 see i could care less about hi def movies so that makes blu ray to none effect to me. Now seein as how im a music fan, the custom soundtrack for ingames is a great great thing for me. Now in terms of the controller, theres no question that the 360 controller is a great controller with the option of turnin the 360 on and off and open and close the tray. Blue tooth, means nonthin to me. Now thats just my preference, as i said before thats all it comes down to is preference. But sayin somethin is worth every penny is rarely the case. Just gotta choose whats best for you. I high lighted what was better for me. Blu ray movies i mean...whatever. Progressive scan dvd's on lcd tv i mean do you really need better..they played it safe with the 360..and i prefer it. interestin to see how the ps3 plays out but so far all their promises are fading. No rumble feat. for the controller is a step backwards, and its funny cause Ken kut whatever was talkin sooooo muc ishhh and look. Im not putting it down just makin a statement....nothins worth every penny. Oh and the 360 is 100 cheaper and if you dont care bout a hard drive or wireless then its 200 dollars cheaper than the ps3....just somethin to think about. PAUL CERULA 05.09.2006 01:10 I'll admit I was quite surprised at the load of knowledge Sony gave us all. After seeing what the PS3 dev. case can do I'm even more excited to see the 360 stuff. Let's break this down. 1. Gameplay / Videos / demos....They looked great, exactly what the PS3 should be at in development. But a lot of major forerunner games weren't even scheduled close to launch but they showed them anyways to display whats to come. This misleads a lot of people. There was a lot of CGI and pre-rendered segments, there even were bits of video mixed in with the gameplay. And there was definately a lot of framerate issues in half the games there. It'd lag or jump every other time that one guy swung his sword in the first gameplay. A lot of multiplatform character demos were incredible like the tiger woods and NBA. Wait that was EA, how are they gonna cut the edges off on those games? 2. Controller....this was one of my thoughts they would just go back to the dual shock and drop the banana. But they added a simple gyroscope in it and tossed the vibration. Honestly think about how you'll use the gyroscope. It's gonna be flight sims, boat races, and car racing, that's pretty limited considering those aren't the most popular game types. And no vibration is horrible to loose just for this function. Considering the Vibration mode was used in every game and everywhere it's devastating to loose it. You'll use this gyroscope to do short bits of vehicle use scattered through campaigns. No...not for me 3. PRICE....of course, 500 for 20gb, 600 for 60gb. The problem here is that the 40gb difference is a sign that you'll need your hard drive more than ever if your an average gamer. No way would Sony just toss away 100 bucks revenue for a smaller hard drive. They're in the hole big time. Also in the GT4 HD part the dev. said that the hard drive would download campaign maps, races, etc to shorten load times. Hello...isn't this what the Blu-ray was meant to do. And considering their confidence in people buying a 60gb pack it's clear your hard drive will be used a lot. And that some people won't be able to do with just a 20gb. 4. PS HUB....Perhaps I missed it but I didn't see an interface for anything other than the online music shop. Anyways you think that online is free, your dreaming. Who upkeeps and pays hundreds to build and preserve online with Sony. The developers, and who did Sony say would charge you for fees if they wanted to, the developers. Also online isn't mandatory so you'll only get the most popular games online and they will have good online which will cost a fortune to run and build. WORD TO THE WISE == NOTHING IS FREE Overall the games I was impressed with weren't scheduled for launch. And Tuesday it's 360's time to rebuttle this strong statement by Sony. There's lots of mixed feelings about this conference. Everyone who would visit a PS3 forum already believes that 5-600 bucks is no problem. Well how about the more than 90% people without HDTV's. Blu-ray may be worth it to you unquestionably but it doesn't appeal to the bulk market. You need to think outside of your lust to get the real picture of how this will play out. how much truth can you handle.... Unregistered - Timdog 05.09.2006 01:14 Sorry this isnt going to be good for Sony. Microsoft made the better choice, watch when they drop their price tag to 299 to really choke Sony out in the United States. Good luck to the American company!!!!! You know thats what the japanese say about Sony!!!! Its 2006 PAUL CERULA 05.09.2006 01:17 Also to add one more thing here's an article about having the 20gb version possibly not supporting 1080p and more. Take it for what it's worth. http://ps3.ign.com/articles/705/705887p1.html Unregistered - 360/ps3 05.09.2006 01:19 # 48 you really do get the picture.....that was a honest post. tom1595 05.09.2006 01:21 hey, i live in australia and i wanna know how much its gonna cost here! if it costs so much more in europe than US, how much will i have to pay? Unregistered - Timdog 05.09.2006 01:22 The core system wasnt appealing, I would use my computer, I want the best the system can over. 600 is going to scare away the mothers, and 360 is gonna be filling alot of households with teenagers because the price of gas and what the salesman say its basically the same system, oh wow Sony big boo boo!!! Thank God you have your shills in Japan>>>> Unregistered - - 05.09.2006 02:05 if the cheaper ps3 has no hdmi will it still play bluray movies Joe 05.09.2006 02:14 Paul... I couldn't say it better myself. Alexander 05.09.2006 02:28 15 - Oh yeah Bill Gates 05.08.2006 23:03 Basic Community Services •Video Chat (coming June/July...before PS3) •Friends List ...check! •Ranking ...check! •Voice Messaging ...check! •Text Messaging ...check! •Account Mgt. ...check! •Player Profile ...check! •Latest Info ...check! All for free!!! ...check! And they were all available on the xbox 1, 5 years ago, admittied for 40 pounds a year. Oh and yes they are free on live. The only thjing your paying for is actual multiplayer gaming, oh and they being lovely at the moment with loads of free weeks and weekends - i wonder why, lol Unregistered - Wes 05.09.2006 02:34 Thats well over priced. it looks great (even if some is cgi), but that pricetag is giant, and i cant see many people being able to reach that deep into their pockets, even if they want to. Unregistered - Briggs 05.09.2006 02:34 Well I have no intention of buying a 360 now, I'll get the ps3 and the Wii instead. Unregistered - BlindMan 05.09.2006 02:41 I agree guys the pricetag is giant, but go to www.gametrailers.com and see the video that they have for the PS3 and tell me if that beast is not worth $500. You gotta love it or hate, i got one word for these videos WOOOOOOOOOOOOW, especially EightDays, Getaway, MSG4, Resistance, Heavenly Sword,Genji and especially Assassin's Creed. I'll be getting my PS3 at lauch, that's a must. Don't let them 360fans buy you into buying the 360 because in the long run you will regret it, from a price perspective the PS3 is a lot, but from graphic the 360 can't touch it, think twice before buying a 360 ober a PS3, and it my word for today. HOORAH Dark Samurai 05.09.2006 04:36 All of your "sony lied" crap turned out to be FALSE: 1- Fully playable PS3 games at the show 2- Reasonable price 3- GT5 in 1080p at 60 fps 4- Tried and true Dualshock2 with motion sensors Unregistered - Jib 05.09.2006 04:53 lol man you are blind. only 3 games impressed me: Getaway, MGS, and heavenly sword (looks like a nighty nine nights game). the rest were OKAY, or just lacking real in-game, human controlled videos. - i mean resistance looked good but the gameplay doesn't look all that fun. what's so different about it? looks repetetive. - eight days was obviously scripted, or cgi. - genji. nighty nine nights clearly owns this game. that video was garbage. - Assassin's Creed. a cgi. but i trust ubisoft will come out with something good. - warhawk. just a straight disappointment. it looks like a high-res crimson skies on the xbox. i was planning on keeping one of my ps3's but now would rather sell it all and wait until the price goes down (400ish). 636$(system+tax) + 64$ (game) = 700$ for a gaming system is way way too much and i think this'll sway a lot of even the most hardcore sony fans. why spend $600 on something that might not even be better than it's 400$ console rival? xbox 360 is comming out with just as many if not more AAA games out this year. Unregistered - Jason13 05.09.2006 05:26 At last we can now prepare for november 17 the most exciting thing in gaming the release of the true next gen which is the ps3, the games for the ps3 is looking pretty good better than the 360, but still a long way to go ill just of to wait but it will worth the wait come november 17. Unregistered - blaze33 05.09.2006 05:39 they gonna show more games for the ps3 when e3 start!!! and BTW...fall of man gonna be great coz it gonna have a lot of crazy wepons...just like what we seen in the ratchet series...you guys just wait :) cant wait to get my ps3!!!...i got right now for 500$...i guess i can get 100$ more when ps3 comes in novmber i advice everyone who plans to get ps3 to start saving there money now...ps3 worth every pennny :) Dark Samurai 05.09.2006 05:47 PS3 is not going to launch tommorow, it's still 6 months left. And in this period of time , these games improve and new games will show up. You don't have to make your purchase decision now! Unregistered - FearingTheWorst 05.09.2006 05:49 i thought Sony said i would be able to PLAY online for free!! did you forget to leave this part out? i'm confused. i read an article here a month or two where everybody in here was saying we'll be playing for free!! did Sony mention this and i just missed it? need more info!!! thanx in advance. Dark Samurai 05.09.2006 05:50 This was a pre E3 conferece. E3 hasn't begun yet. Dark Samurai 05.09.2006 05:52 shoot, i must rest a little. Unregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.09.2006 05:59 So this is the end of Sony 499 Euro's for a machine without a HDMI port, Blue Ray is useless then 599 Euro's, buy an extra controller and a game with it and you'll be back on your account for around 750 Euro's. The games? Not seen much yet. The motorthing is allright but not great. It'll do the same about as the 360 with graphics in the end, but the 360 GPU is slightly better then the one of the PS3 which is a Nvidia 7900 while the 360 GPU is a special designed one for the console. So about the same technology for at the time of the launch half the price of the PS3 you'll get the 360 Premium for 300 or 350 Euro's/Dollars around Christmas and the PS3 with HDMI port for 600 Euro's/Dollars with a BR player that isn't even the definitive standard yet. That's not very wise to do, while it is sure the games will be around the same quality of graphics. Go buy the 360, eventually get a seperate HD-DVD or BR add-on player if the standard is set. The add-on player of the 360 will have a HDMI port in the end also, just wait and see. So at the moment you'll be missing out nothing, heck even have the next gen console now in stead of waiting endlessly on Sony, not having to hear their lies again (TWO HDMI ports? come on. They won't even get games in 1080p because the GPU can't process anything else then Tetris in 1080p on one screen not to say two as Sony did, it will be 480p or 720p where the 360 has the standard 720p which is forced by MS, Sony has no rule so game developers can even choose 480p which is lame as hell). I was going to get the PS3 but now I'll sh*t on it and have bought the 360, hope everyone will do and Sony will go bankrupt those pantsh*tters. Heck I'll even get the Wii in some time just because it will be some different fun and spend the same as one PS3 have two consoles and double fun for the same amount of money!!! hardwood2001 05.09.2006 06:09 The PlayStation 3 will come in two configurations, one will have a 20GB hard drive and the other will have a 60GB hard drive. However, losing 40GB isn't the only downgrade with the 20GB version. The 20GB version, priced at $499, will not have Memory Stick, SD, or Compact Flash inputs, Wi-Fi capabilities, or any HDMI output. hardwood2001: I can't believe sony just spilt the market for their consumers!!! Unregistered - Jib 05.09.2006 06:32 the bad thing about the "core" ps3 is that some of those things mentioned above ^ aren't upgradable. atleast the core for the 360's still upgradable (only real difference is the hard drive) as to the ps3 where if you were to be low on budget (500+tax is still a lot), and decide to get the core ps3, you're screwed with the hdmi feature unless you're willing to buy another ps3(premium) with the hdmi. could have sworn sony was talkin' trash about the 360 having 2 sku's. hmm.. yeah.. Unregistered - jj 05.09.2006 07:12 600 + 2 games = 700 + a controller 750 holy crap thats dear and with no rumble feature on the controller thats sad sony wont win many hearts at those prices Unregistered - gg 05.09.2006 07:41 Actually the games will most likely be 60 so.. that's: $600 system + $120 two games + $40 Controller = $760 Depending on tax (3% to 8%), that's anywhere from $780 to $820 Unregistered - bob Jenkins 05.09.2006 08:01 You Sony fand boys are all the same. Sony could put a tird on a paper plate and you sony fanboys would buy it. Unregistered - Nitz 05.09.2006 08:08 YOu get the option but are pretty much FORCED to buy the more expensive one. Islandkiwi 05.09.2006 08:08 This was cheaper than I expected, I imagined it was start off at 599. But I feel sorry for the Europeans, who always seem to get the pointy end of the value stick. Is it worth the price? In my opinion, probably not. I could get a 360 and a Wii for the price of the lower end Ps3 (allegedly, Wii has not shown pricing yet). I buy consoles to play games. So personally, I'd rather have two consoles than one console. The controller is another issue. No vibration anymore. They say it has to do with the motion sensing, I imagine it has a lot more to do with the patent infringement lawsuit. But we've had game vibration forever; believe me, you'll miss it. Think of driving games, it was a very effective way of alerting you to the fact you were taking turns too fast. But almost as importantly this affects the backwards compatibility of all ps/ps2 games. I say almost because, as a 360 owner, I don't go back to the older library all that much. Sony's online for free thing doesn't sound any different than Xbox Live, either. I did not hear them say you could play games for free online. I also did not hear that Sony required all games to be hi-def, or that they were required to be online enabled. The only requirement I've heard is that they be on Blu-Ray. Finally, the two hard drive system. The $499 PS3 told me something, it was that MS may very well drop the price of their premium system. Even if only by 50 dollars, it would certainly sting. But if Sony is willing to sell at $499, then the 20 gig hard drive isn't adding that much to the cost of the console. Unregistered - Neutral 05.09.2006 08:14 Im finding very funny how all of you are reacting to all this news and how you argue over it. This has come to no suprise to me as I expected a minimum of 499. One of the other aticles on this site had someone commenting that it was going to be 350 and I said that was nieve thinking and people argued with me but I turned out to be right. I think alot of kids are nieve enough to think that it would be any less. Anyway im not suprised. So 499 or 599 and being im in the uk I think 599 euros converts to just over £ 400 which isnt bad considering the standalong blue-ray played will be alot more and with the PS3 you get allot more. I will preorder one and when their is a shortage (which there will be) I will sell it staright away on ebay for a big profit then buy another one when more are available. Did exactly the same with the 360 and made that much of a profit the 360 hardly cost me a thing. Unregistered - BlindMan 05.09.2006 08:23 HAW HAW. Unregistered - ggg 05.09.2006 08:30 for 600$ you can get yourself a Premium 360 and a Nintendo Wii. IMO, Xbox360 + Nintendo Wii >>>>>> PS3 Unregistered - XBOX 360 FANBOY 05.09.2006 08:40 U GUYS FORGOT SOMETHING WHAT WILL THE GAMES COST THATS MY..? I DON'T NO ABOUT U I HATE PAYING $60.. NOBODY GOING 2 PAY $70... A USED GAME WOULD BE $65 U NO GAMESTOP& EB LOVE 2 RIPOFF GAMERS.. TELL ME WHAT U THINK??? Unregistered - blaze33 05.09.2006 08:41 at least with the ps3 you gonna get free online gaming.... when you get xbox360 you pay 400$ for the console...but microsoft charge you for playing online...thats mean you would pay more than 400$ to enjoy xbox360(after all...online is really importent in xbox360...microsoft said that themself)...so with all the online payment and xbox360...you probaly gonna lose more money to enjoy xbox360 than ps3....>FACT Unregistered - Jib 05.09.2006 08:43 if you look at sony's "BASIC" plan, it doesn't include being able to play multiplayer online. someone correct me with a link if i'm wrong. everything on that basic plan can be done on the 360 "silver" plan which is also free. Islandkiwi 05.09.2006 08:47 With the two different pricing structures, what's the difference between the two packages? I know the hard drives are different sizes, but are any other features removed? Unregistered - Neutral 05.09.2006 08:47 You wont get free online gaming as sony will have to regain the costs somewhere. Why do people think Sony will give you something for free? Its a business not a charity and they will need to recoup costs somehow to maintain the online network and development and considering its a on going thing it will need to be payed for. As for xbox live well cost me £21 for 12 months so that isnt bad. No one pays the full amount as you only have to go on ebay and buy a subscription card and you can usually get one for below 30. Will get a PS3 so can play both 360 and PS3 online Unregistered - tobias 05.09.2006 08:48 I have read the spec and from what i can gather the PS3 "Cell" processor is far superior to either that of the nintendo or xbox. blue-ray hd discs (lovely) sensor controller (interesting but copying nintendo) and as always there'll be a reliable games stable as the ps3 will be able to play the older ps2 ones. i am biased toward ps but then i remember nintendo vs megadrive and they always fell short (anyone remember the atrocious conversion of streetfighter II on nintendo, blocky graphics and nintendo got blanka's name wrong). i also find the xbox controllers and console rather too chunky. i'm thinking of blasting my overdraft to stock up on these and put them on ebay, they always under supply and i want the cash to just roll on in... former questionmark 05.09.2006 08:50 sony is not charging you to play online. however, each individual developer can charge you if they want to. and if the service is any good, many devs will to recoup production costs. so instaed of paying $50 a year and being able to play everything online, you might end up paying $15 a month for individual games, and pay $100s a year. not saying this is exactly what will happen, but it's up to the devs. Unregistered - Jib 05.09.2006 08:53 @island it won't have Memory Stick, SD or Compact Flash reading capabilities, WiFi support, and more importantly, it won't have HDMI. Unregistered - Jib 05.09.2006 08:55 majority of xbox360 games are playable online. anyone know if it'll be the same for the ps3? former questionmark 05.09.2006 09:03 they didn't push it last time with much other than sports titles. i would think now you'll see more by default. what's the purpose of touting it, and claiming it as an advantage if they don't use it hardly again? Unregistered - blaze33 05.09.2006 09:04 and i forget to say this..with the ps3 you will be able to watch blu-ray movies..which is of course better than DVD..and plus,there will be no 2 or 3 discs games comes with the ps3,and no any compress data, ALL HIGH QUALITY GAMES, and dont you forget that ps3 is region free,no more importing games :).....thanks to the blu-ray of course... and with the ps3 you will be able to play really innovation games...such as eye judgment by eye toy...or play with you guitar with guitar hero...and you can sing with singstar..and now with the new controller..you can do many great things FPS is gonna be different with the ps3 than the ps2...thank to the new controller...and PLUS,its less weight than xbox360 controller and wii remote and do you xbox fanboys remmber your noisy xbox360...well,with the ps3 you wount hear noise as you get in your xbox360...coz the noise that will come out from the ps3 is just the same with the slim ps2..which is not noisy at all ALL that for 500$/600$.....i think it deserve all that money...START SAVING MONEY GUYS!!! Unregistered - Jib 05.09.2006 09:09 'cause like you said, it's up to the developers. as a developer, do you think they're willing to take a chance on charging people to play one game? opposed to the ms way where people pay 50 a year to be able to play ANY of the many titles. this was why i asked the question. i was wondering if sony was doing anything special to motivate developers to incorporate online play. Unregistered - what 05.09.2006 09:09 ps3 sucks. who needs blue ray if games like oblivion with 200+ hours of gameplay fit on just one dvd? only multimedia-freaks are interested in this kind of stuff. playing games "sidewinder-style" also sucks. MS + Nintendo will steal the show and by november nobody wants a ps3 anymore .. what a wonderful dream! Unregistered - Dr flambay 05.09.2006 09:54 pasted off Xbox live website. An Xbox Live® Silver Membership is free of charge for all Xbox 360™ owners - so there's no reason not to try it, even if you're just curious. As a Silver Member you can: Create a gamer profile Pick a gamertag and build a gamer profile. You can choose a gamer picture to distinguish yourself from the crowd, put up your personal motto and pick a Gamer Zone. Create and maintain a friends list Make new friends, keep tabs on old ones and build online communities. Access Xbox Live Arcade and Marketplace Check out demos and trailers and buy great casual arcade games like the classic Galaga or the smash hit Bejeweled. Messaging The next generation of Xbox Live on Xbox 360 enables system-wide messaging regardless of the game you're playing, with some amazing features to boot... Inbox Immediately see if you have any messages at the touch of a button. The Message Centre Inbox is set up like the standard email inbox. You can even send messages to multiple recipients - up to 100 at once! Now there's a quick way to set up a gaming session with your friends. 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After all, more than two million members can't be wrong. check your info before you comment please! green lantern 05.09.2006 09:57 ok i was hating on the 360 because i thought sony was gonna deliver this year but i guess i was wrong..... no rumble feature on the controllers?? whats the war games gonna be like?? no hdmi ports (oh i mean "port" because the 2 hdmi ports was bullsh!t)on the $499 20G console?? oh and that price tag isnt really wanting me to go out and buy that system.... i hear my gamestop calling me to buy a premium 360 with 2 games instead of a 20G ps3 hey i could buy a premium 360 with 4 games for the price of the 60G ps3!! e3 isnt over yet so sony might still show some good stuff but from what i seen and read about the sony press conference i dont really wanna buy a ps3 anymore.....and yeah they might have free online gaming but its up to the developer if the game charges you, not sony...... Unregistered - green lantern 05.09.2006 10:47 oh and another thing...since kojima said that mgs4 for is possible on the 360 and he decides to port itif the 360 sells more than ps3 is in trouble because it loses a console seller...theres another thing most people dont know and sony fans bash it....halo used to be a ps2 title but then it became an xbox title and everyone knows how that sold....if u dont believe me about halo here it is http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/014/014552/vids_1.html...they had videos at an e3 for ps2 halo....so if sony loses thier exclusivs because they dont sell enough then the playstation brand is going to become a dreamcast but i doubt its gonna happen....like i said in my previous comment, if sony does deliver on thier promise because e3 isnt over yet, then ill get a ps3 but if not ill enjoy a new xbox360........ Unregistered - Doom 05.09.2006 11:05 to all of you idiots who say you're gonna buy a 360 (which i'm sure %80 of you already have one), please go ahead and buy that pice of crap. HAHA! nobody gives a sh1t. good luck playing FF13, motorstorm, heavenly sword, lair, tekken6, vf5, and many more jaw dropping titles on your 360...OH WAIT! YOU CAN'T!! LOL!! regardless of what you morons say, sony will sell like hell 'cause deman will exceed the supply. price is no problem. any gamer (not XFLAMERS like you) knows what a masterpiece the PS3 is. buttheads!! Unregistered - foss 05.09.2006 11:21 i'm rearlly dissapointed. i was waiting to see what sony's machine was capable of before making a decision between buying a 360 and a PS3. some of the video's arn't as good as i was expecting, and i'm rearlly dissapoined that the controlers have no vibration. now i'm gunna get a 360 - i'm not waiting 6 months for an overpriced console which is capable of the same things as 360 (except blue ray).......sigh........ Unregistered - sdfsdf 05.09.2006 11:35 "Little Jimmy what do you want for Christmas?" "A PS3!!!!" "Well Jimmy, for the price of the PS3 you can get an Xbox 360 AND a Nintendo Wii" The only way Jimmy would pick the PS3 is if he rides the short bus. Blu Ray will be very weak by Christmas, and Sony will have (if they are lucky) a launch line up equal to that of the 360's launch. Xbox 360 will have better top tier games that will be equal to or better in graphics. This is now Microsofts war to lose. It will probably takes years for Sony to be on top of the market again. Unregistered - Doom 05.09.2006 11:59 looks like someone needs a hug! stop pretending, most of you have a 360 now and want to soothe yourselves. how on earth can someone be disappoited? heavenly sword and motorstorm screens are insane! lair, ff13, f1 are superb! and these titles are still under development. the controller is great and motion sensing is the future. it does not need extra stuff like 360 controller , just plug the cord and it is charged. besides, the E3 is about to begin and we'll see many more great ps3 titles soon. most of you are XBUGS in disguise. yeah, if i had a 360 , i would flame the ps3 like that. you say you're disappointed by sony but are happy with that crapbox360 and it's crappy games? this is called hypocrisy. ps3 will run GT5 1080p@60 frames what about your Weakbox? only 720p 30 frames at best and the games actually run at 20 frames now. the polls at other ps3 sites show that at least %80 of respondents are either extremely or very much satisfied with the ps3. stop talking crap and go play your weakbox 3sh1tty. it's days are numbered. Unregistered - Doom 05.09.2006 12:08 we'll see XF@G! little jimmy has a ps2 and he won't be able to play the games i mentioned on the 3sh1tty. as we near the ps3 launch the sales of 3sh1tty will drop dramatically. it's sales is dropping as we speak. it's not considered a hot item anymore, you can find it everywhere on the shelves. sony will show much more killer demoes and trailers. i tell here and now, XBOX360 is doomed! Unregistered - Bflow 05.09.2006 12:16 Despite everyone opinion, the PS3 will still sell big. Personally, I like what they did with the controller. The rumble feature isn't all that important to me anyways. I just pictured playing fight night with the new controler. Being able to dodge punches using its new feature. Now that the cat is out of the bag, expect to see a lot more games announced since companies had to remain quiet by Sony's request. Plus there is no way Sony could have done much more at the show than what they did. It was only 2 hours. I mean they have to talk about the PS2 and the PSP plus introduce PS3 with game trailers(GTHD was waaaayyy too long) playable demoes, online features and so on. I mean they could of skipped talking about the other two but those platforms are amking them money. They're not going to abandoned them like M$ has done with Xbox. And did you notice how many games their studios are working on. And develpers still have six months left to polish up their games for launch. Plus, 3rd party companies has some pretty amazing stuff as well. Yeah it's expensive, but for some reason that just makes me want it more. It's funny how people want a lot more but want at the same priceline as previous generations. The lines will be long. Let the campers begin. Unregistered - Unknown 05.09.2006 12:22 Sony is George Infamous!!! Bush, Microsoft is John Kerry, and Nintendo is the underdog Nadar!!!! Unregistered - XBOX 360 WIPES THE FLOOR WITH PS3 AND ITS RUMBLE LESS CONTROLLER LOL IDIOTS!!!!! 05.09.2006 12:23 OOOOh my gooooosh, the ps3 fans tallllllked soooo omuch sh!t. Sayin we'll have blu g@y and blu toothless lol but yeah where's your rumble lol. Ken Kut f*ck said cofidently we dont see a reason to have two systems it only confuses the consumers....tsk tsk tsk what a pitty they copied us and totally sold out the ps3 fan base. I would never pay that much for a gaming console. I paid 399.99 for the xbox 360 premium package but look what you get i mean its over a hundred dollars worth of stuff with it plus its just a better system. The 360 controllers are wonderful, lol copying the wii was crazy but the price point is suicide.....its all a joke MS is was and always be the better choice....talk sh!t now sony fan twerps......lol I see even they are pissed off they waited all this time and hung to sonys everyword like fools. We had our 360's since last november and been enjoyin them when all they had we trumped up movies. and on top of that when their mommies and daddies go to the store for the ps3 they gonna see 499 and 599 and be like what the hell then the clerk is goin to explain and then offer them an instock 360 for cheaper even if they go with the 299 core package no harddrive and wired controller...its still cheaper and upgradabe lol sony suuuuuuckss. lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol Unregistered - lol 05.09.2006 12:25 lol. psWii360. ps3 will lose the console war because noone wants this piece of cr:p. games don't look better than 360 games and final fantasy 113 ... wow whatta sequel. today 3 friends of mine bought a xbox 360 instead of waiting for the ps3. all i can say is: congratulations my friends. lolololol. this is really a piece of cr:p. Unregistered - .... 05.09.2006 12:29 .... and it looks like some kind of paper-cutting-machine or trashcan or something. no real shape. Unregistered - a bad flu 05.09.2006 12:32 GREAT POST #48, YOUR NO FANBOY green lantern 05.09.2006 12:51 wwwwhhhhoooaaaa!!! i take back what i said about the ps3 and how i dont like it....i just saw the ps3 controller in better detail [http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/news/05/08/ps3_controller_screen001.jpg-you can zoom in too]and i think it looks awesome.....theres a button right under the start and select buttons and the l2/r2 buttons are shaped better for fps's but there are only 4 LED lights...i thought sony said that it supports up to 7 controllers??....wats up wit dat??....ok im not getting a 360 and im back wit the ps3....lol its only been 2 hours since i hated sony and wanted a 360 but now i want a ps3 all over again.....but i AM still getting a 360 tho..... green lantern 05.09.2006 12:51 wwwwhhhhoooaaaa!!! i take back what i said about the ps3 and how i dont like it....i just saw the ps3 controller in better detail [http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/2006/news/05/08/ps3_controller_screen001.jpg-you can zoom in too]and i think it looks awesome.....theres a button right under the start and select buttons and the l2/r2 buttons are shaped better for fps's but there are only 4 LED lights...i thought sony said that it supports up to 7 controllers??....wats up wit dat??....ok im not getting a 360 and im back wit the ps3....lol its only been 2 hours since i hated sony and wanted a 360 but now i want a ps3 all over again.....but i AM still getting a 360 tho..... Dante 05.09.2006 12:53 plz shutup... what is it? ur mad cuz ps3 wiped the floor out of the 360...hahahaha...you are feeling the pain right?? yes 360 already failed look at the ps3 games they all look next-gen and sony delieverd...plz go cry to ur mummy.. Unregistered - BlindMan 05.09.2006 13:18 Sony's games are still 6 months away from launch and already none of the 360 games look as good. now you 360fna scan come up here and say: "Sony lied, Sony is finished, MS has won," but the truth of the matter is that i don't give a sh*t i see reality for what it is, so if you 360 wanna ignore it go ahead besides i'm tired of you and of the 360. you were asking for ingames, Sony delivered, now get over with it, and stop saying your idiotic comments.HOORAH Chaos73 05.09.2006 13:20 Is anybody else watching Nintendos presentation.....LOL Wow You know what these guys know how to bring it.... I seriously am way more impressed with Wii than I am with PS3. I will get a Wii for sure..... The graphics may not be ass kickin but the gameplay...and that controller kicks AZZ....... Sony..what the hell man.... I will still probably get a PS3..but it wont be at launch...and it may be 3 to 4 years from now..... But I got my 360....and the Wii will soon follow..... By the way I liked Nintendos poke at Sony "What you see is not always what you get... Playing is believing." It is true. Sony I have been soley with you since PS1 launch...but this time Im not impressed...you a day late and a dollar short this time. (or should I say $200.00 higher) please.... Alexander 05.09.2006 13:40 LOL Funny how i got told the PS3 would cost less than $400 just tows days ago on this site. All the bull ive been told to look out for, they have showed nothing new, revolutionary or exciting really. The game demos were dull. I cannot see why anyone would still want to buy one unless they love the few exclusives the PS3 has left. I would just like to say: NOTHING I HAVE SAID ON THIS SIGHT HAS BEEN A LIE AND ALL MY SPECULATIONS HAVE BEEN TRUE. Like the dropping of dual outputs, which 'demos' werent real and the router functions to name a few. Good luck boys... Go green! "We deliver" [Halo: CE] Unregistered - Twist96 05.09.2006 13:47 The Sony Conference was....underwhelming. However, I will congratualte Sony on not BS'ing anymore about the graphics. But... The games look the same as Xbox 360. There was even pop-up on that demo..can't remmeber the name, it was a first person game, and the guy was playing it...oh yea, Resistance of Man or something. Anyway, I saw POP-UP on the smoke efects in that. Second of all, the controller is a complete rip of Wii and 360. The middle button and the analoug triggers are straight from 360, and the motion sensitvity from Wii. And whats this? NO BLURAY PLAYBACK or DOUBLE HDMI FOR THE CHEAPER VERSION? LOL. You know they'll sell that seperatly to those people. Sony lies again! MGS4 trailer was cool, for people like me who know the story. I liked Raiden on MGS2, and now he looks great. Although the thing that annoyed me about that trailer was Snake's "suicide". I saw that coming a mile off, "There is one more thing I must do", with a small pistol in his hand. OH PLEASE. It wasn't a shock at all by the end. K, look, lets look past the hype. PS3 is no better than 360. Both are well built and well establised platform, and Wii is something else all together, for better or for worse. I'm not attacking the PS3 outright- I'm saying is UNDERWHELMING. kcdude 05.09.2006 13:50 What the Fuc# is wrong with you people? First of all, at least the PS3 isn't $700 or more, and why the hell do you guys sit here and call eachother names and sh$#. Seriously, we all apparently like gaming, and this is a PS3 website, so everybody here should like the PS3. I am tired of seeing all of you 360 a$$holes saying how much the PS3 sucks, it's becuase your jelous becuase you "Mommy" didn't wait until the PS3 and bought you a Xbox 3Shitty, ok...just go play your "Kameo" or whatever baby games you got and leave this site alone you jealous losers. Unregistered - Twist96 05.09.2006 13:52 Oh, and I wonder if a certain LAWSUIT had anything to do with the rumble feature being missing? It's that, or Sony are being completly stupid. The rumble has been a standard for years, and of course Nintendo invented it first. Unregistered - Neutral 05.09.2006 14:03 I agree with you to an extent that it is very silly for people to come on here and to insult and call each other names. But dont you see your just as bad by replying like you do and calling them names? The 360 and the PS3 are great machines but none are or will be perfect. Ive noticed quite a few posts on here just going through the usual motion of throwing around insults wether they are PS3 fans or 360 fans and I honestly think that these are just kids who come on here. You are right though that 360 fans who have no intention of getting a PS3 should be on here and it is rather stupid that they come and post insults. I on the other hand will have all 3 systems but I realise some cant afford to do that. So to them I say just look at whats games you can get on each system and make a decision on that basis and not what brand the console it is as non of them will be perfect. Unregistered - ssj-04 05.09.2006 14:15 If you think about it... since the ps3 is a Godly Gaming Console and offer godly games... than 600$ is a steal... Wow this is cheap dude ... PS3 here we come.. .yah cant wait... till NOV... SOny is the God of Gaming WORLD... yah soo true... Unregistered - dlow 05.09.2006 14:17 the ps3 sucks the games look the same grand turismo look exactly like pgr3 Unregistered - Nitz 05.09.2006 14:18 Well I'm getting the ps3 and the Wii, the 360 doesn't interest me, don't get me wrong the games do look good but I've been disappointed with Ms ever since last year I have no intentions of forcing myself to buy a console that I don't want. Unregistered - r43r3r 05.09.2006 14:26 It isnt Gran Turismo 5 ... they are using the same engine as GT4 so its GT4 in HD :P But I want it!!!!!!!!!!!! Unregistered - ssj-04 05.09.2006 14:30 your fawkface suk... ahha to say sony ps3 suk... you must be a moron... The only one that suk around here is you... and your 3sh1tty... you 3sh1tty game cant even compare to the PS3 Godly games.. WOW look at all the line up... cant wait cant wait... And only 600$... Now that is a steal for a GODLy system.. wit True HDMI... DOes M$ have HDMI? NO Does M$ have HD- movie Palyer? NO ANd what is the size of M$ HHD? 20 and compare it to 60gb... wow Blu-ray HD gaming and a 60gb hdd... that is a steal... M$ is 200$ less, so what.. it dosnt offer 60gb hdd, HD gaming, and A HD-movie player... Simple this is a Steal ... 600$ is pretty cheap if you think about it... IF you want sony to sell it for 400 like m$ than remove HD-Gaming, HD movie player BLU-ray, 60gb hdd... and there you could have the ps3 as the same price as M$... What do you expect? Peoples want PS3 to cost the same as the 360... its like wanting a Lexus to cost the same as a Toyota... PS3 cost more its because it offer more... DUH... NO brainer... Unregistered - The M.A.R.T. 05.09.2006 14:37 You talk major sh*t 1. The PS3 plays Blue Ray, which is better then DVD, but equal to HD-DVD (because 1080p no one uses there is no one with such a TV even not in a few years that this next gen console lives through). There is no winner yet of those two, I would rather have the choice with an add-on than pay more now for nothing 2. The compressing data thing has nothing to do with high quality what a dumb ass remark 3. The eye toy thing is less innovative as the Wii controller, which Sony tries to copy but it won't work out. You want to swing your guitar with guitar hero? Be my guest hahaha 4. The 360 controller is perfect in weight and shape, the boomering stupid controller that is prototype of Sony that's a da bomb ain't it? whoaohahaha 5. My XBOX360 isn't noisy. THe first (Hitachi drives) had some noise problems the newer Toshiba/Samsung drives act normal. So you know how much noise the PS3 will make even you haven't ever seen or touched a working model untill yet? That's really funny. Oh wait, you believe the marketing sh*t from Sony? RIght? Like the 2 HDMI ports the PS3 would have??? Now it has one and the only game it can deliver in 30 fps with 4096 colours will be Tetris (yes, 1080p on the PS3 won't be able to deliver more then 30 fps and not 60, the hardware GPU Nvidia 7900 not special designed like the 360 GPU isn't capable of producing more then 4096 colours on screen when in 1080p... hahaha) 6. Don't save you money, go and spend it right now on a 360, it's cheaper, it's better, it's now and not too late like Sony's dead horse |