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13 Apr 2006 11:50 | Dusty | Playstation 3 PS3Today.com | Link to this article
Today Ubisoft and Gearbox Software announced that Brothers In Arms Hell's Highway is in development for next generation video game platforms, including the PLAYSTATION 3 system and the PC. Scheduled for a holiday 2006 release, Brothers In Arms Hell's Highway is the third game in the multimillion-unit selling and critically acclaimed Brothers In Arms franchise.
Brothers In Arms Hell's Highway brings the critically acclaimed squad-based WWII shooter into the next generation of gaming with amazing graphics and sound, new cutting-edge gameplay features and a completely redesigned online component. Delivering on the franchise's compelling story, unrivaled authenticity and intense squad-based action, Brothers In Arms Hell's Highway drops you into Operation Market-Garden, the largest airborne operation of World War II. Lead Matt Baker, Joe Hartsock and the rest of the 101st Airborne Division as they fight to open "Hell's Highway" in a daring bid for a quick end to the war. "With Brothers In Arms Hell's Highway, Gearbox is investing everything to take next-generation gaming to an entirely new level," said Randy Pitchford, president of Gearbox Software. "For Brothers In Arms Hell's Highway, the Unreal Engine 3 powers real next-generation graphics and the most intense, action-oriented recreation of true history ever offered as interactive entertainment." "Since the series was introduced last year, Brothers In Arms has consistently excelled at delivering a new style of tactical shooter wrapped up in an authentic WWII setting," said Francesca Reyes, editor-in-chief at Official Xbox Magazine (OXM). "As fans of the Brothers In Arms series, OXM is incredibly excited to be the first to reveal to readers the world-exclusive first-look at Brothers In Arms Hell's Highway." The issue is available on newsstands since April 11, 2006. ![]() Add Comment PAUL CERULA 04.13.2006 12:27 I don't know what a concole is but I want one. Unregistered - BURGNIEL 04.13.2006 12:29 NEXT-GEN CONCOLE?!? Wow, where was I in the fist gen of these concoles? Unregistered - whatever 04.13.2006 14:00 Paul predicted months ago that the next gen of Sony's concole would be delayed till november.... Unregistered - LOL 04.13.2006 14:39 Who cares about what Paul said???? Hes just sad Unregistered - GutOne 04.13.2006 14:48 MS 360 Concole is better Unregistered - whatever 04.13.2006 14:57 exactly. Unregistered - 123123 04.13.2006 17:14 wtf is a Concole ? idiot Unregistered - dc 04.13.2006 19:14 360 sucks ps3 is better sorry 360 u lick balls tom1595 04.13.2006 19:32 all this "waa waa waa, xbox 360 is better" "no ps3 is better, boo hoo. shut your face xbugs" is annoying! why cant somebody intelligent just actually tell me which one will be better without getting all agro and fan boyish. ive preordered my ps3... but i have doubts. somebody with a brain please tell me which will be better! Unregistered - Ti 04.13.2006 19:35 Can't really say which ones better because it could depend on other peoples taste so it's really up to you to decide that question. Unregistered - ee 04.13.2006 21:04 To be honest know body knows which system will out weigh the other at least until developers truly push both hardwares to there limits in due time! This year at E3 should be a good indicator to at least see if ps3 will be up to par with 1st generation 360 games! I think if you want a PS3 buy one but if you were like me you would wait and make sure that its really worth it after E3 or after you've tryed it at a kiosk kind of like the 360's before it's launches if they have any! Bill Nye 04.13.2006 22:12 Oh dang. Graphics that show the stubbies when a man hasn't shaved. I've just wet myself. Unregistered - wanker 04.14.2006 09:17 http://www.gearboxsoftware.com/?p=news&pg=1#164 # Above is a link to an interesting interview with Randy Pitchford, one of the guys in charge of developement for BIA at Gearbox. And below is a little snippet of that interview which sounds as if they prefer 360. Pitchford: The 360 is a really exciting machine for us. I encourage any serious gamer to get one as soon as they can manage. I love mine with many of the titles that have already launched and I know there are some really amazing, truly next-gen games that won't be far off. I can personally vouch for the next-gen quality of Brothers in Arms 3, for example. Unregistered - qweqwe 04.14.2006 18:28 These are 360 shots also. Sad day for sony fans... too dumb to realize that the current games for the 360 do not look as good as "sony hype" because of lack of utilization of the hardware. Kameo/ Call of Duty / (any pc port) looks like crap because of the developers, not hardware. The hardware is cacapable of anything we have seen (real time) from sony as of yet. Cannot argue that! Unregistered - BlindMan 04.15.2006 02:58 Here is what i talk about, yes i understand that these are 360 shots, but what about them not being actual gameplay, i don't hear on that, but if it was Sony showing Motostorm, Lair or Killzone2, you all would be saying "These are fakes, show us some actual gameplay." If you think that the PS3 can't come up with better graphics, you're brainless, if you think that these are actual 360 shots, you need not even reply to my comment, because you obviously don't have brain. You talk about GRAW , yes they show some imprsssive movies in between the game that when you compare them to the actual 360 GRAW gameplay, they make it look like N64. Plua may i add this, another FPS for the 360, when will they ever stop, MS cannot win with FPS only, get that, this will be their downfall, too many FPS. Unregistered - wotter 04.15.2006 05:37 @14:nope, warhawk was 1080p at GDC, xb360 can't do that btw, this game is multiplatform, looks and plays the same on both systems, end of story. Unregistered - Chaos73 04.15.2006 12:13 Ok, Whats the use anymore..... This crap has gotten way out of control. The following is a short story going on in every middle/highschool lunchroom acrossed America and shows how stupid most of you sound... (when reading please use a serious lisp, High raspy voice and let boogers drip into your mouth) MS Punk " Hey man..Xbox360 rules the friggin world." Sony Fag " No way man...My Sony rules the friggin UNIVERSE!" MS Punk " Say what will....but the 360 is the super bestest...and from what I just heard last night from my cousins girlfriend's brother..... That her Dad...friends 3rd cousin overheard that the biggest news ever is going to be released this weekend..and you will fall to your knees... Sony Fag " Oh yeah...you fall to your knees....cuz PS3 is......." (Interupted by MS Punk) MS PUNK " LISTEN LISTEN LISTEN" MS Punk " Bill Gates is the Christ returned. Thats the news....Beliiieeeve it..or burn in HEEEEELLLLLLLL!!!! Sony Fag " No way man.....you have been decieved by the Devil....I was told in a dream by the "Grey Race" that this lie would come to light and millions would be decieved and that Bill Gates is actually the Anti-Christ...and his XBox 360...is actually the mark of the beast .... I mean c'mon on man think about it...X..thats evil..Box..... Well my Boy scout troop leader said "BOX" was sexual..and was placed there to make us fornicate...and then to top it all off... 360......360.....360......get it...3 6's...666... MS Punk ::::::Stares with drool...and boogers dripping into mouth:::::: MS Punk " Yeah....well...yeah...so...it doenst matter....We have our system ....What do you have?...all you have is the PS2..and a bunch of lies. I'll burn if thats what it means.....cuz Bill Gates Loves US..... Thats what I heard....and the JAPS..are trying to suprise attack us again like they did way back in Vietnam." Sony Fag " It wasnt Vietnam you idiot...it was Korea....." MS Punk " Whatever....what I'm trying to say is...WE RULE and your a Sony FOOL....XBOX! XBOX! XBOX! XBOX! XBOX! Sony Fag " SONY! SONY! SONY! SONY!" Ok so do you see where I am going with this.....just give it up...just go get whatever system it is you want...and play man.....or do like me.....get all 3 systems coming out.....why not takes advantage of each system? Seems like alot of you are limiting yourselves....Take it from me...a kid that grew up with the Comadore 64 and the Atari.... Be glad you have graphics like this available.... Unregistered - Watch It 04.15.2006 13:43 #16 Not quite, I'm guessing you haven't been at their website lately. Only the MOVIE Warhawk has been confirmed to be utilizing the 1080p Engine at it's fullest, it's doubtful the consoles will be able to. Unregistered - wotter 04.15.2006 15:02 @18: well, you saw the movie, I saw a realtime gameplay movie from GDC: 1080p (impossible according to ms), 4xAA + HDR (impossible to xboxfanboys=g70 can't do it). You can play it at E3 btw. Denial? Unregistered - Xgamer 04.15.2006 17:51 Enough. Here's the thing, the Xbox 360 games are getting better and better as true next gen designers are actually putting next gen technology into the games and not just a pc port over, the Xbox 360 has amazing power that translates into beautiful and brilliant game play. No problem. Up coming titles are showing to be enough to make anyone wet there pants.Xbox live is incerdible and brilliant in it's design as well and is awesome and they have several new additions to add and upgrade for live and all we have to do to get it is log on. etc.....games, we have N3 nighty nine nights, Huxley, dead rising, gears of war, halo 3, new tom clancy games, such as spliter cell 4 and much much more, Really a,ot more and E3 will be the unvelling of alot of new next gen titles. Sony tries to say that there getting a couple of the same titles such as the one mentio ed above BIA, but the thing is, it's a supposedly november release and that will change to febuary 07 I guarantee it so no, many of the mentioned titles wont be coming out on a non existent system. sorry. Ps3. First off, there isnt a ps3 at this time, not even a working demo has been presented without a pc powering it's demo that was shown at sony's show in march, just last month mind you, and now in a couple weeks sony is telling you they'll "maybe" be demoing a few titles, Maybe, They were at one time now it's listed as not looking good. So the thing is soy still has major issues with the ps3, yes, including the bottle neck issue, it's showing to be severe with any game that's graphically intense. Thats why pc's have been powering so called ps3 demo's so far. will sony have a working ps3 without being powered by a pc at E3, I hope so, I'd truly like to see one. We all would. There's other given issues as well but this is enough to speak of at this time. Lets see what E3 brings us but I'll bet it wont be good for sony and the ps3 however for MS and the Xbox 360 it will be incredible. There's sooo much going on for MS and the 360 that it will be the talk of E3. time will not only tell, time will explode with Microsoft and XBOX 360 news. Again sorry. PC created and powered demo's for the supposed ps3 wont get it. Sony show us more or give up. Unregistered - preS 04.15.2006 17:56 No console will utilize 1080p until the new next gen systems of 5,6 years from now come out and it's not needed actually. 720p is awesome and most cant see that with what they have in there TV's. I agree xbox 360 is seeming to be blasting forwards like a bullet right now. sony has a chance to make a good name out of there lieing past i hope i see it after the e3 show. Unregistered - Ti 04.15.2006 18:15 Somones in denial. Unregistered - Neverwhere 04.15.2006 19:58 Ubisoft is going to talk about Red Steel for the Rev at E3 they were talking aobut in Game Informer and I checked the E3 website their also going to talk about project assasins for the ps3, I don't really care for brother in Arms never liked the series. Unregistered - wotter 04.16.2006 06:18 @20/21: post those things on teamxbox/xb360news... seriously, this is ps3today, not xb360today. If you like xb360, great. If you want to post something, don't do it here, it causes flamewars all the way. I'm glad you enjoy your console of choice and I hope E3 gives you what you wanted. Btw, blu-ray movies are 1080p, so ps3 will output 1080p and will be the only console this generation to do this. And further down the road, more and more games will be 1080p. Unregistered - twist96 04.16.2006 17:26 "Btw, blu-ray movies are 1080p, so ps3 will output 1080p and will be the only console this generation to do this. And further down the road, more and more games will be 1080p." Y'see, thats EXACTLY how Sony spin-doctor things. Firstly, only MOVIES will be in 1080p in the outset, but Sony can still say "PS3 can output 1080p", without any actual 1080p games for a long time down the line. At the end of the day, its hard enough to get around bottlenecks in the Cell as it is, but to get optimal 60fps, with dozens of physics on screens, AND at 1080p? That will not happen at launch, thank you very much. Oblivion, Halo 3, GRAW, PGR3, Sonic, TDU, Huxley, MotoGP06, Lost Planet, Dead Rising - Xbox 360 MGS4, Sonic - PS3 Only one (or two) games that are any good are coming on PS3, whilst 360 has amazing games, right now, and I can vouch for that. MGS2 got rated 9.6 on Gamespot- So did Oblivlion, as an example. (MGS3: Subsistence got 9.0) Seriously, and I have pointed this out before- all Sony fans have to go on is Tech Demo graphics (or whatever). Seriously, who PLAYS Motocross games? Killzone 1 was crap. The Getaway, though I personally liked it, was not well recived AT ALL. All we've seen is fancy graphics, real or not. Goes to show how Sony can manipulate people purely on flash. They think they can be incredibly arrogant, just by the brand name. Remmeber Ken- "the next gen doesn't start till PS3"- what an arrogant guy. Next gen began in 2005- Sony is waaay behind Besides which, the Getaway's London, graphically, has been matched by PGR3, a game released last year. We won't see the Getaway for a while. DVD9, I have decided, is no longer an issue. Oblivion offers 200+ hours of gameplay, and for that matter, half the disk is purely audio. So in other words, they've stuffed a next gen game with next gen models and texturing with over 200+ hours of gameplay in to the equlivlant space (sans audio) into the standard DVD size of last-gen. Of course, with audio, it's MGS3 or San Andreas disk size. Oblivion still has more gameplay, AND it's next gen. Another point- PS3, by adopting the Blu-ray format exclusivly for all it's games, have alienated the PC developers. Think about it. PC Developers, such as Bethesda, aren't going to touch Blu Ray Technology for ages, since no PC's have them. Primarily, they're working to DVD9 or even DVD size. It would be a waste of resouces to put DVD9 size of data onto a Blu-ray disk, because it would not use the rest of the space AT ALL. Therefore costing more money. For SEGA releasing the next Sonic game, for example, are obviosuly working to DVD9 size for the 360 version, also the PS3 version will be the same. Therefore, SEGA are losing money by having to print DVD9 size data on a Blu-ray disk, all because SONY want to push their big shiny format. Remember, Sony has not won with UMD- Hollywood is backing out of that, thereby proving that Sony are incapable of pushing a new format purely on the Playstation brand. DVD had at least been around for a while before PS2 came out. That's why I think Microsoft have an edge. The Windows platform for develop coupled the DirectX 10 technology on 360, the award-winning LIVE infatracture, the easy delvelopment environment and the DVD-centric disk format means you're gonna see many blockbuster PC Games on 360, including the masssive MMORPG's. WoW 360 would not suprise me. Oblivion is an example of this- it's also convineant that Microsoft has the launch base it has, and all it's users- Oblivion has sold as many copies on PC as on 360, showing the market potenial for PC ports. All PS3 has in this respect is 3rd party developers, but even they are switching or sharing sides. Beat THAT, PS3. Unregistered - Kong 04.16.2006 18:04 Not a fanboy and not trying to bring you down but STUFU I had enough of this Sony vs MS bs your just a damn fanboy basing everything on your opinion so just stop it already. Karibu 04.17.2006 03:05 #13 Some dev's prefer PS3, so what? #14 Xbox360 screens, okay. Did you know that this is multiplatform game? Did you know that they make multiplatformers by specs of the weakest console?? #20 "Here's the thing, the Xbox 360 games are getting better and better as true next gen designers are actually putting next gen technology into the games and not just a pc port over," Oh, so X360 AREN'T next-gen games? Ken was right, next-gen stars when PS3 comes. "Xbox live is incerdible and brilliant in it's design as well and is awesome and they have several new additions to add and upgrade for live and all we have to do to get it is log on." So much praising that it must be BS. MS concentrates on LIVE and forgets the gaming... "we have N3 nighty nine nights, Huxley, dead rising, gears of war, halo 3, new tom clancy games, such as spliter cell 4 and much much more, Really a,ot more and E3 will be the unvelling of alot of new next gen titles. Sony tries to say that there getting a couple of the same titles such as the one mentio ed above BIA, but the thing is, it's a supposedly november release and that will change to febuary 07 I guarantee it so no, many of the mentioned titles wont be coming out on a non existent system. sorry." Correction, you don't have those games yet. When you imply Sony has said somthing like that, atleast give a link for such news. Don't talk crap. "Ps3. First off, there isnt a ps3 at this time, not even a working demo has been presented without a pc powering it's demo that was shown at sony's show in march, just last month mind you, and now in a couple weeks sony is telling you they'll "maybe" be demoing a few titles, Maybe, They were at one time now it's listed as not looking good." So what it tells is that games which are demoed with less powerfull PC and Devkit are actually better looking than anything this far on X360. "So the thing is soy still has major issues with the ps3, yes, including the bottle neck issue, it's showing to be severe with any game that's graphically intense. Thats why pc's have been powering so called ps3 demo's so far." So you are a developer? Do you even know what a bottle neck issue is? Would you be more specific what's wrong in the hardware? Ofcourse they have demoed everything with PC, they just have finished the hardware. "will sony have a working ps3 without being powered by a pc at E3, I hope so, I'd truly like to see one. We all would. There's other given issues as well but this is enough to speak of at this time." I mind you that year ago at E3 MS demoed X360 games with MACs, later X360 released in november. So it's fair to demand Sony to have working console at E3? I hope they do, that would shut you Xbugs mouth for a while. "Lets see what E3 brings us but I'll bet it wont be good for sony and the ps3 however for MS and the Xbox 360 it will be incredible. There's sooo much going on for MS and the 360 that it will be the talk of E3. time will not only tell, time will explode with Microsoft and XBOX 360 news. Again sorry. PC created and powered demo's for the supposed ps3 wont get it. Sony show us more or give up." You should have leave only words "let's see what E3 brings us" on your comment. You're one sad Xbug. How it's not good for Sony and PS3?? Yet you're so sure MS would steal the show. Sorry to crush your dreams but a coming console (PS3 & Revolution) intrests more than few crappy games. It's really sad, but it's highly possible that X360 doesn't intrest media and gamers after E3. #21 "No console will utilize 1080p until the new next gen systems of 5,6 years from now come out and it's not needed actually. 720p is awesome and most cant see that with what they have in there TV's." Don't believe too much MS hype. 720p looks good but that's what you only get at bestest with X360. PS3 is able to do 1080p, more awesome than 720p, it might do it later, but that's not possible with X360. PS3 is planned to play in the future too. "I agree xbox 360 is seeming to be blasting forwards like a bullet right now. sony has a chance to make a good name out of there lieing past i hope i see it after the e3 show." Ps2 still beats X360 in sales. It's MS that should make good name for X360, it doesn't offer really anything new. After E3 we are all wiser. #25 "Y'see, thats EXACTLY how Sony spin-doctor things. Firstly, only MOVIES will be in 1080p in the outset, but Sony can still say "PS3 can output 1080p", without any actual 1080p games for a long time down the line. At the end of the day, its hard enough to get around bottlenecks in the Cell as it is, but to get optimal 60fps, with dozens of physics on screens, AND at 1080p? That will not happen at launch, thank you very much." I hope you realise that above things are not possible with X360?? Just wait till E3 and prepare for next-gen. "Oblivion, Halo 3, GRAW, PGR3, Sonic, TDU, Huxley, MotoGP06, Lost Planet, Dead Rising - Xbox 360 MGS4, Sonic - PS3 Only one (or two) games that are any good are coming on PS3, whilst 360 has amazing games, right now, and I can vouch for that. MGS2 got rated 9.6 on Gamespot- So did Oblivlion, as an example. (MGS3: Subsistence got 9.0)" You gotta be kidding... Don't even try to compare X360 and PS3 game librarys. Psone, PS2 had the most and best games of their gen. Same thing happens with PS3. Wow ratings, are you stupid, if I give Oblivion a 5 and MGS 3 a 10 would it make your console suck?? "Seriously, and I have pointed this out before- all Sony fans have to go on is Tech Demo graphics (or whatever). Seriously, who PLAYS Motocross games?" Seriously, who play's dull FPS's with idiotic story and alien monster?? "Killzone 1 was crap. The Getaway, though I personally liked it, was not well recived AT ALL." That thing is called opinion, others have liked it, maybe cause it's not dull alien shooting?? What are you babling???? "All we've seen is fancy graphics, real or not. Goes to show how Sony can manipulate people purely on flash." When those fancy graphics become reality, you call them crap. That's the way Xbug see things. MS has celebritys to 'sell' X360 imago, isn't that worst kind ofmanipulating?? "They think they can be incredibly arrogant, just by the brand name. Remmeber Ken- "the next gen doesn't start till PS3"- what an arrogant guy. Next gen began in 2005- Sony is waaay behind" Let's see 100 000 000 PS2's, 20 000 000 Xbox's... If they were arrogant they'd not bring real nexr-gen games. Ms is arrogant not usin it's time for great games, but crap in new wrapper. "Besides which, the Getaway's London, graphically, has been matched by PGR3, a game released last year. We won't see the Getaway for a while." Not even close. You know that PGR is a racing game... driving around a track??? The Getaway is GTA tyle game in detaily modelled city, with lots of people and cars, and other sh!t with AI and stuff. I'd like to see more of The Getaway and how much better it will look when it's released. "DVD9, I have decided, is no longer an issue. Oblivion offers 200+ hours of gameplay, and for that matter, half the disk is purely audio. So in other words, they've stuffed a next gen game with next gen models and texturing with over 200+ hours of gameplay in to the equlivlant space (sans audio) into the standard DVD size of last-gen. Of course, with audio, it's MGS3 or San Andreas disk size. Oblivion still has more gameplay, AND it's next gen." The more space the better. If Oblivion were on HD-DVD, you'd praise it over and over. BUT, Oblivion isn't next-gen. Models suck and so many other things like loading screens, animation... "Another point- PS3, by adopting the Blu-ray format exclusivly for all it's games, have alienated the PC developers. Think about it. PC Developers, such as Bethesda, aren't going to touch Blu Ray Technology for ages, since no PC's have them. Primarily, they're working to DVD9 or even DVD size. It would be a waste of resouces to put DVD9 size of data onto a Blu-ray disk, because it would not use the rest of the space AT ALL. Therefore costing more money. For SEGA releasing the next Sonic game, for example, are obviosuly working to DVD9 size for the 360 version, also the PS3 version will be the same. Therefore, SEGA are losing money by having to print DVD9 size data on a Blu-ray disk, all because SONY want to push their big shiny format." Wow, no PC port's to PS3!!! Like it'd matter. PS2 didn't have many PC ports, but it did very well cause there was still massive support for it. It's good that all crap doesn't jump from PC to PS3 only games that are worth it. You know that there are games that come more that 1 DVD maybe in 3-4 in coming years. There's nothing bad in extra space, dev's always whine for it. You're in denial. I don't get that losing money part??? How in the hell they are losing money releasing games on #1 brand??? "Remember, Sony has not won with UMD- Hollywood is backing out of that, thereby proving that Sony are incapable of pushing a new format purely on the Playstation brand. DVD had at least been around for a while before PS2 came out." You're stupid or what? You know that UMD was not to replace DVD's. UMD's are expencive, that's why everyone doesn't buy them. But watching movies on handheld console, man that's awesome. For many PS2 was first DVD player, also it was first to use games in DVD's. "That's why I think Microsoft have an edge. The Windows platform for develop coupled the DirectX 10 technology on 360, the award-winning LIVE infatracture, the easy delvelopment environment and the DVD-centric disk format means you're gonna see many blockbuster PC Games on 360, including the masssive MMORPG's. WoW 360 would not suprise me. Oblivion is an example of this- it's also convineant that Microsoft has the launch base it has, and all it's users- Oblivion has sold as many copies on PC as on 360, showing the market potenial for PC ports" I just say wow, MS hype ownz you. "All PS3 has in this respect is 3rd party developers, but even they are switching or sharing sides." Don't get too used in your delusions... "Beat THAT, PS3." Beat the h3ll outta this forum, YOU. Unregistered - wotter 04.17.2006 04:29 @25: I said at the beginning only movies will be 1080p, most games will be 720p, but gdc showed Warhawk with 1080p. Further down the road, more and more games will be 1080p. What is difficult about it to understand this? Can I laugh at you when one game comes out at launch that support 1080p? And the Getaway is more impressive than PGR thank you. And gdc again showed this isn't cgi, is real-time all the way. And I'm playing Oblivion right now on a higher resolution than 720p on my pc. Let xb360 have its pc-ports, just like previous gen. And devs are happy with blu-ray. Rockstar are creating a new engine from the ground up to fully support blu-ray and cell. Phil said they need blu-ray for the Getaway at GDC. I bet even the guys of Epic are happy with it. And blu-ray can play DVD, so I see no problem for people who don't want to switch from format to format. Nice post about us being arrogant, we don't go to xboxsites just to laugh at people. I can see the difference between a tech demo and real-time gameplay. MGS4, Ut2007, Warhawk, Lair, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm (yeah, just making a list with games just like you, don't know the point of this). And wtf is this crap with the gpu of xb360 being directx10? RSX and Xenon are directx9, directx10 isn't even out yet, nice lies from ati or ms. Nice quote to end, beat that xbox360. Unregistered - Twist96 04.17.2006 09:12 "I said at the beginning only movies will be 1080p, most games will be 720p, but gdc showed Warhawk with 1080p. Further down the road, more and more games will be 1080p. What is difficult about it to understand this? Can I laugh at you when one game comes out at launch that support 1080p?" Warhawk looks crap to me. Those hills are reminisant of the Oblivion lo-res hills, and the trees look worse in this game. Thousands of planes? I saw a similar scene in the Lost Planet game, where several dozen, fully animated enemies are coming after the character. They are way more animated than a bunch of machines. "And the Getaway is more impressive than PGR thank you. And gdc again showed this isn't cgi, is real-time all the way." No it isn't. And real-time ON WHAT? They haven't even got the bloody PS3 yet. And they haven't implement AI, mission scripting, or anything. And I see graphical flaws also. Look at this screen: http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/2005/136/928374_20050516_screen001.jpg No anitriscopic filtering on the floor, jaggies on the stairs, low polygon character models...(look at hunchback reading the newspaper) "And I'm playing Oblivion right now on a higher resolution than 720p on my pc. Let xb360 have its pc-ports, just like previous gen." Fine. We'll have the next Half Life. Also, I don't doubt that for a game developed primarily for PC ported to a farily new platform, that you could run it better on a $2000 PC and $350 Graphics Card than a $399 Xbox 360. And devs are happy with blu-ray. Rockstar are creating a new engine from the ground up to fully support blu-ray and cell. And how many small delveopment companies have to do that? How much does it cost? Phil said they need blu-ray for the Getaway at GDC. See, heres the thing. How did they fit all the textures of London on DVD on PS2? And I doubt the resoulution has been improved, unless they went out and redid London all over again. (They took pictures of all the shops in London for the textures) "I bet even the guys of Epic are happy with it." You bet? I bet I'm happy with Gears of War. "And blu-ray can play DVD, so I see no problem for people who don't want to switch from format to format." Sony said all PS3 games will be on Blu-ray, as a standard. All for the sake of Sony pushing their format. "Nice post about us being arrogant, we don't go to xboxsites just to laugh at people." Us? I was talking about Ken Katurguri. I'm sure you're just an innocent consumer, ready to splurge hundreds on the Playstation name. "I can see the difference between a tech demo and real-time gameplay." Evidently not. "MGS4, Ut2007, Warhawk, Lair, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm (yeah, just making a list with games just like you, don't know the point of this)." You should list games that you are looking forward to, personally. "And wtf is this crap with the gpu of xb360 being directx10? RSX and Xenon are directx9, directx10 isn't even out yet, nice lies from ati or ms. Nice quote to end, beat that xbox360." Xbox 360 has support for DirectX 10 in the future, with it being Microsoft and all. And 360 beat it last year, thank you very much. "I hope you realise that above things are not possible with X360??" Obviously, sh!t-for-brains. Nither is the PS3. "Just wait till E3 and prepare for next-gen." I think for you, it's the other way round. You're preparing for PS3's "Next-gen", and waiting to E3, only to be greeted by MORE tech-demos. "You gotta be kidding... Don't even try to compare X360 and PS3 game librarys." I was comparing one Xbox 360 game to the highest rated of your beloved MGS series. "Psone, PS2 had the most and best games of their gen." It also a SH!TLOAD of crap corparate-sponsered games, espically PS1. Things like Bratz games and that kind of sh!t. "Same thing happens with PS3. Wow ratings, are you stupid, if I give Oblivion a 5 and MGS 3 a 10 would it make your console suck??"" You're not exactly a professinal reviewer, are you? If you were, you'd understand how much 360 whoops PS3's ass. "Seriously, who play's dull FPS's with idiotic story and alien monster??" Lets see...PS3- Unreal Tournament, Warhawk, Lair, I-8...Nope, no idiotic FPS's with no story and alien monsters there. "That thing is called opinion, others have liked it, maybe cause it's not dull alien shooting?" ^^See above^^ "When those fancy graphics become reality, you call them crap. That's the way Xbug see things." Fancy Tech Demos? Oh boy... "MS has celebritys to 'sell' X360 imago, isn't that worst kind of manipulating?" The worst kind of manipulating is outright lying to the consumer to sell a product. TGS last year, Microsoft was delivering the goods, showing ACTUAL GAEMPLAY. Sony, were showing TECH DEMOS, and they lied about it. "Let's see 100 000 000 PS2's, 20 000 000 Xbox's... If they were arrogant they'd not bring real nexr-gen games. Ms is arrogant not usin it's time for great games, but crap in new wrapper." 100 million SHIPPED PS2s, verses 20 million SOLD Xboxes. Sony is full of spin-doctoring sh!t. It doesn't even release the sales figures. For gods sakes, I could send billions of my product to the selves (shipping) and SELL just one. Crap in a new wrapper? EXCUSE ME PS3. This is what I saying about Killzone and The Getaway. Both have POOR gameplay. In other words, crap in a cgi wrapper. "Not even close. You know that PGR is a racing game... driving around a track??? The Getaway is GTA tyle game in detaily modelled city, with lots of people and cars, and other sh!t with AI and stuff. Which hasn't been implemented, hence the TECH DEMO moniker. PGR3 has dozens of crowds, internet play, 80,000 polygon cars, AI on the cars AND a detailed modelled city. "I'd like to see more of The Getaway and how much better it will look when it's released." How much WORSE? Ok. "The more space the better. If Oblivion were on HD-DVD, you'd praise it over and over." I say there was no point. Then again, HD-DVD is much cheaper for development. "BUT, Oblivion isn't next-gen. Models suck and so many other things like loading screens, animation..." False. Models DO NOT suck, Animation is great. I'll grant you the loading screens thing though. "Wow, no PC port's to PS3!!! Like it'd matter. PS2 didn't have many PC ports, but it did very well cause there was still massive support for it. It's good that all crap doesn't jump from PC to PS3 only games that are worth it." The Xbox wasn't around by the time PS2 had recruited a masss of developers. Now ppl have seen what the Xbox brand can do, and many are switching over, no question. Resi 5, Sonic, Alan Wake..all games that are on both platforms. "You're stupid or what? You know that UMD was not to replace DVD's." I don't suppose Blu-ray is then? "UMD's are expencive, that's why everyone doesn't buy them." Exactly. "But watching movies on handheld console, man that's awesome." On a four inch screen? Whoop-de-doo, buy a portable DVD payer. "For many PS2 was first DVD player, also it was first to use games in DVD's." But DVD was established by the time of PS2, moreso then Blu-ray, which is literally launching with the PS3. "I don't get that losing money part? How in the hell they are losing money releasing games on #1 brand?" BECAUSE, Blu-ray assembly lines are totally different from DVD lines, thus more expensive. Each disk is expensive to make. And this is counter-productive if the actual game size is only that of a DVD9. And Blu-ray is NOT #1 brand- DVD is. "I just say wow, MS hype ownz you." One word- Tech-demo. "Don't get too used in your delusions..." Sonic, Alan Wake, Resi 5... "Beat the h3ll outta this forum, YOU. " I repeat myself, BEAT THAT, PS3. Unregistered - Kong 04.17.2006 09:51 Beat what ps3 are you stupid you speak for every ignorant fanboy that comes on this forum who doesn't know crap. Unregistered - Twist96 04.17.2006 11:52 #30: That's a real convincing arguement. Karibu 04.17.2006 15:57 "Warhawk looks crap to me." So you have played or seen it on it's full glory?? Ofcoutrse it looks crap to you, Xbug. It' not interesting game for me but it has some nice stuff in it. "Those hills are reminisant of the Oblivion lo-res hills, and the trees look worse in this game. Thousands of planes?" That's the older demo, besides there's more landscape at time than in Oblivion. You know that flying is faster than walking or riding? Have you seen one of those tree's close?? "I saw a similar scene in the Lost Planet game, where several dozen, fully animated enemies are coming after the character. They are way more animated than a bunch of machines." Oh my, sounds like a tech demo you xbugs so like. "No anitriscopic filtering on the floor, jaggies on the stairs, low polygon character models...(look at hunchback reading the newspaper)" You're are really blind to call those jaggies. How bout this pic from oblivion? http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/702/702493/img_3486946.html Look at the ground lol. WTF is wrong all those jaggies in that pic?? Why that woman looks like your future husband??! If I'd compare consoles with that pic and your getaway pic... I'd say you did the wrong choise. Look at this pic too http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/702/702493/img_3415707.html Haha, true next-gen, furry character with FLAT ugly fur. Haha. Really , even PS2 games had more polys in characters. "And devs are happy with blu-ray. Rockstar are creating a new engine from the ground up to fully support blu-ray and cell." So are many others, more space is better. "And how many small delveopment companies have to do that? How much does it cost?" They'd make games for PS2, it's too expencive to make games for revolutionary Xbox360... You don't know how much it cost and STILL you're saing "it's so expencive, yadda yadda" It's not that expencive you think. In a year it's as cheap as making games on DVD. "Phil said they need blu-ray for the Getaway at GDC. See, heres the thing. How did they fit all the textures of London on DVD on PS2? And I doubt the resoulution has been improved, unless they went out and redid London all over again. (They took pictures of all the shops in London for the textures)" Maybe those textures are somewhat more(like 100x) detailed and better? "You bet? I bet I'm happy with Gears of War." Another UE3 game with aliens or monster... But if you're interested it then I have no objections. "You should list games that you are looking forward to, personally." Haha, seriously taht sentence just proved you're one biased xbug. I could say all games are crap on x360 'cause I'm not looking forward to them. "Xbox 360 has support for DirectX 10 in the future, with it being Microsoft and all. And 360 beat it last year, thank you very much." Bet if it really happens, you wont notice the difference. "Obviously, sh!t-for-brains. Nither is the PS3." Hmmm, you'll be amazed after E3. "I think for you, it's the other way round. You're preparing for PS3's "Next-gen", and waiting to E3, only to be greeted by MORE tech-demos." I'm looking forward to revolution too, and guess what I'm waiting if X360 can offer anything than old-gen games. "I was comparing one Xbox 360 game to the highest rated of your beloved MGS series." You know that they are totally different genre. "It also a SH!TLOAD of crap corparate-sponsered games, espically PS1. Things like Bratz games and that kind of sh!t." I'm sorry if you bought tat Bratz game but it's your own fault. You're really naive if you think that kind of crap didn't come on Xbox. There's enough great games on those consoles you won't have time to beat them all. "You're not exactly a professinal reviewer, are you? If you were, you'd understand how much 360 whoops PS3's ass." So if I were a professional wiever and giving a 5 to Oblivion you'd be happy? There's no PS3 games yet to rate. But as you know, only stupid people depend on ratings, as there's no actual truth in it. Let's say Joe Nobody see two games rated Oblivion 9.3 and PGR3 8.8. Joe buy's Oblivion, but when he begins to play it, he hates it. Pixies and goblins and other fantasy stuff with ugly animation isn't what Joe want's from a game. Joe is a racing games lover, he's tuning he's own crappy Lada but loves it. Would you think Joe had appreciated PGR3 more than Oblivion?? "Lets see...PS3- Unreal Tournament, Warhawk, Lair, I-8...Nope, no idiotic FPS's with no story and alien monsters there." First that doesn't include Lair and Warhawk. Idiot... And I'm still not interested stupid alien humting ie. Unreal Tournament and I-8 which is nowdays Recistance: fall of man. Keep your info dated. "^^See above^^" Still not fan of alien shooting. "Fancy Tech Demos? Oh boy..." Good read and watching for you if you still believe Sony didn't deliver what they promsed. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/printthread.php?t=34741&pp=100 "The worst kind of manipulating is outright lying to the consumer to sell a product. TGS last year, Microsoft was delivering the goods, showing ACTUAL GAEMPLAY. Sony, were showing TECH DEMOS, and they lied about it." ^watch that above link and be ready to be sorry. "100 million SHIPPED PS2s, verses 20 million SOLD Xboxes. Sony is full of spin-doctoring sh!t. It doesn't even release the sales figures. For gods sakes, I could send billions of my product to the selves (shipping) and SELL just one." Even if it were 95 million sold it's still more than oput of reach of Xbox "Crap in a new wrapper? EXCUSE ME PS3. This is what I saying about Killzone and The Getaway. Both have POOR gameplay. In other words, crap in a cgi wrapper." If you can't beat the game maybe it's your lack of talent and chubby fingers? The thing is with PS3 those games get better upgrade than JUST graphical. AI, physics... games on PS3 is the true next-gen. wether you liked it or not. "Which hasn't been implemented, hence the TECH DEMO moniker. PGR3 has dozens of crowds, internet play, 80,000 polygon cars, AI on the cars AND a detailed modelled city." Those crowds doesn't act anything like they did in the getaway. They'd still sit there if you'd had chance to drive over them. That city is modelled just around the track, not the whole city. 80k polys, wow onimusha had main character with 10k polys. Oh yeah, PGR3... a racing game... with 30fps and false 720p!!! "How much WORSE? Ok." You really live in denial? M'kay. "I say there was no point. Then again, HD-DVD is much cheaper for development." Well then, how much cheaper?? "False. Models DO NOT suck, Animation is great. I'll grant you the loading screens thing though." Watch the previous pics, they do suck. Animation is poor, I know for I do that stuff. "The Xbox wasn't around by the time PS2 had recruited a masss of developers. Now ppl have seen what the Xbox brand can do, and many are switching over, no question. Resi 5, Sonic, Alan Wake..all games that are on both platforms." PS2 had only 10 million consoles lead, shipped I guess ;) Image is nothing, games are everything, and that's why Xbox can't beat PS3. "I don't suppose Blu-ray is then?" Eventually yes, you know that it took time for DVD to beat VHs. Umd's was great invention for hande held. Too bad they sold them too high price. If they were cheaper they'd sell alot more. "On a four inch screen? Whoop-de-doo, buy a portable DVD payer." Can I play games with it or listen to music, can it fit to my pocket? Isn't it a lot more expencive? "But DVD was established by the time of PS2, moreso then Blu-ray, which is literally launching with the PS3." Blu-Ray players are coming in MAY. "BECAUSE, Blu-ray assembly lines are totally different from DVD lines, thus more expensive. Each disk is expensive to make. And this is counter-productive if the actual game size is only that of a DVD9. And Blu-ray is NOT #1 brand- DVD is." You gotto build them ofcourse, but money start's rolling in when everything is in order. By all you said you mean MS should make more Xboxes 'cause it's cheaper than x360?? "One word- Tech-demo." And how accurate and underestimating the power od PS they can be. Chek this page again. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/printthread.php?t=34741&pp=100 "Sonic, Alan Wake, Resi 5..." Wow, multi platforms.. is that you ever wished from a console?? "I repeat myself, BEAT THAT, PS3." You seem to repeat stupid stuff over and over again. Go away and stop posting sh!t. You have really something against PS3. You should chance your attitude. Unregistered - Jib 04.17.2006 17:52 ^ WEAK rubuttal. you should pick up a debate class Karibu 04.17.2006 18:10 What is rubuttal?? It's really ad that yuo being such a fanboy you shut your eyes from games on other consoles. Unregistered - Twist96 04.17.2006 18:34 "So you have played or seen it on it's full glory??" Have you? "Ofcoutrse it looks crap to you, Xbug." "Cause we're used to better" "It' not interesting game for me but it has some nice stuff in it." Yea. Ok. "That's the older demo, besides there's more landscape at time than in Oblivion. You know that flying is faster than walking or riding? Have you seen one of those tree's close?" Oblivion was not optimised for 360. Simple. But those trees in Warhawk are crap, they'd better give it some SpeedTree technology. "Oh my, sounds like a tech demo you xbugs so like." Nope, no tech demo. It was gameplay, HUD-display and everything. Check the preview at IGN, for example. "You're are really blind to call those jaggies." They are there. In fact, they are greyed, seeming covered up by half-hazard AA. "How bout this pic from oblivion? http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/702/702493/img_3486946.html Look at the ground lol. WTF is wrong all those jaggies in that pic?? Why that woman looks like your future husband??! If I'd compare consoles with that pic and your getaway pic... I'd say you did the wrong choise." As I said, Oblivion was built primarily for PC. "Haha. Really , even PS2 games had more polys in characters." I highly doubt that. "So are many others, more space is better." But more cost is worse. "They'd make games for PS2" Reeal next-gen "it's too expencive to make games for revolutionary Xbox360" Cheaper than PS3. "You don't know how much it cost and STILL you're saing "it's so expencive, yadda yadda" It's not that expencive you think. In a year it's as cheap as making games on DVD." Depends wether Blu-ray is a flop or not. "Maybe those textures are somewhat more(like 100x) detailed and better?" They only have the ones from the PS2 version. As I said, they'd have to go out and re-do it. Also notice how they've shown THE SAME area of London for every demonstration, namely near the Eros statue. The fact that they have not presented a diverse area which would be evident from work in a proper game screams "tech demo" or "demostration" to me. There is no sign of any other work having been completed. "Another UE3 game with aliens or monster..." Unreal Tournament, LOL. "Haha, seriously taht sentence just proved you're one biased xbug." No, the sentence proves, for me, that there hardly any games of interest for me on PS3 AT ALL. That's down to games. If Shenmue III was PS3, I would sell my 360, no question. "I could say all games are crap on x360 'cause I'm not looking forward to them." Go ahead and buy PS3 for MGS4. "Bet if it really happens, you wont notice the difference." Yea, right. I bet the "Tflops" bullsh!t won't make a difference between 360 and PS3 as well. "Hmmm, you'll be amazed after E3." If I was a blind Sony fanboy, then yes. "I'm looking forward to revolution too" Me too. "and guess what I'm waiting if X360 can offer anything than old-gen games." It has done, by the load. "You know that they are totally different genre." Yet both highly regarded. "I'm sorry if you bought tat Bratz game but it's your own fault." I never bought PS1. "You're really naive if you think that kind of crap didn't come on Xbox." Not as much, by a long shot. Barbie's Horse Adventure is the only one I can think of. "There's enough great games on those consoles you won't have time to beat them all." Like Oblivion, 200+ hours, and so on. "So if I were a professional wiever and giving a 5 to Oblivion you'd be happy?" People would flame you, including me. But consider that Oblivion got 9's from dozens of DIFFERENT reviewers, suggests an overall favourable opionion of the game. "There's no PS3 games yet to rate. But as you know, only stupid people depend on ratings, as there's no actual truth in it." Ratings are a good thing, haven't steered me wrong by far. Oblivion got it's 9s for a reason. "Joe buy's Oblivion, but when he begins to play it, he hates it. Pixies and goblins and other fantasy stuff with ugly animation" Ugly animation? No sir. "..isn't what Joe want's from a game. Joe is a racing games lover, he's tuning he's own crappy Lada but loves it. Would you think Joe had appreciated PGR3 more than Oblivion?" Joe buy's MGS4, but when he begins to play it, he hates it. Fat suicide bombers and Genome Soilders and other forth-wall post-modern stuff with ugly animation isn't what Joe want's from a game. Joe is a game lover, he's playing his own crappy Xbox 360 but loves it. Would you think Joe had appreciated 360 and all it's games more than PS3 and it's one game? "First that doesn't include Lair and Warhawk. Idiot..." What? "And I'm still not interested stupid alien humting ie. Unreal Tournament and I-8 which is nowdays Recistance: fall of man. Keep your info dated." I don't think Unreal has changed, or I8? "Still not fan of alien shooting." Good for you. "Good read and watching for you if you still believe Sony didn't deliver what they promsed. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/printthread.php?t=34741&pp=100" That wasn't exactly awe inspiring. Also, Ryo and other characters rendered in real-time on the Shenmue Passport disk on the SEGA DREAMCAST pwns that tech demo of the man's demo. "^watch that above link and be ready to be sorry." Geee...no. "Even if it were 95 million sold it's still more than out of reach of Xbox" Do you have figures? Exactly. "If you can't beat the game maybe it's your lack of talent and chubby fingers?" I beat The Getaway, thank you very much. And Black Monday. And you buy the PS3 because it looks like a food grill, fat boy. "The thing is with PS3 those games get better upgrade than JUST graphical. AI, physics... games on PS3 is the true next-gen. wether you liked it or not." Xbox 360 has that. "Those crowds doesn't act anything like they did in the getaway. They'd still sit there if you'd had chance to drive over them." Gee, I wonder why not? "That city is modelled just around the track, not the whole city." So you're saying The Getaway renders THE WHOLE OF LONDON, IN FULL NEXT GEN DETAIL, at the same time? It's called level streaming, it renders as far as the eye can see, and no further. "80k polys, wow onimusha had main character with 10k polys." And piss poor environments in comparison. "Oh yeah, PGR3... a racing game... with 30fps and false 720p!!!" Launch game. "You really live in denial? M'kay." Right back at ya. "Well then, how much cheaper?" Way cheaper, google it. "Watch the previous pics, they do suck." No, they do not. "Animation is poor, I know for I do that stuff." You have the game or not? "PS2 had only 10 million consoles lead, shipped I guess ;) Image is nothing, games are everything, and that's why Xbox can't beat PS3." Image is nothing, games are everything, and that's why PS3 can't beat 360. "I don't suppose Blu-ray is then?" "Umd's was great invention for hande held. Too bad they sold them too high price. If they were cheaper they'd sell alot more." Sony wouldn't do that, would they? "Can I play games with it or listen to music, can it fit to my pocket? Isn't it a lot more expencive?" Crap games, and you can listen to music on an MP3 player. whoop-de-doo. "Blu-Ray players are coming in MAY." DVD's were established way further than in 4 month's notice. "BECAUSE, Blu-ray assembly lines are totally different from DVD lines, thus more expensive. Each disk is expensive to make. And this is counter-productive if the actual game size is only that of a DVD9. And Blu-ray is NOT #1 brand- DVD is." You gotto build them ofcourse, but money start's rolling in when everything is in order. "By all you said you mean MS should make more Xboxes 'cause it's cheaper than x360??" I mean more games developers should make more DVD9 games because they are cheaper. The Xbox console is expensive. "And how accurate and underestimating the power od PS they can be. Chek this page again. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/printthread.php?t=34741&pp=100" Nope, nothing. "Wow, multi platforms.. is that you ever wished from a console??" 3rd party support, moron, which you so hype the Playstation on having. 360 has loads of exclusives. "You seem to repeat stupid stuff over and over again." Only the one line- BEAT THAT, PS3. Unregistered - Jib 04.17.2006 22:43 i was just saying your arguement was weak. as for "openning my eyes," I own and favor the ps2 library over the xbox. i also own GC. not a fanboy. im a gamer. im a gamer who is right now disappointed at what sony's been doing. Unregistered - wotter 04.18.2006 08:13 @29 Wow, warhawk is crap, damn, I thought it was the most impressive game at E3. And yes, I can see the difference between a tech-demo and ingame-footage. Ducks, landscape being rendered=tech demo. Getaway, HS, Warhawk all ingame. GDC proved it. Ever heard of dev kits btw? MS had MACS at E3'05, so everything they showed was fake? No off course not. Final ps3 will be ready end may, beginning of june. You can run games on a dev kit. Nice pic of the Getaway btw, looks good, should I post a crappy pic of lets say Gears of War? And I play Oblivion on a pc that costs less than 1000€, off course it doesn't look like xb360 (fe 4XAA), but my point was, as long as it gets so many pc-games, people won't buy it. And the lists I posted is the list I'm looking forward too. And for the last time, xenon is directx9, give a link where it says its 10. Unregistered - wotter 04.18.2006 08:21 "Image is nothing, games are everything, and that's why PS3 can't beat 360." This one made me laugh. Sony can wrap up the ps2 in a nice box, call it ps3 and still sell millions of it, just because its playstation. Sony made a name for itself, and sorry, MS still has to do this, especially in Japan. PS2 had what, 2000+ games? It IS unbeatable in games, its library is big. Yes it has crappy games, but is has a large range of EVERY genre (sport, rpg, racing, hell even fps, although not many). You think devs are going to abandon PS3 (after they developed on ps1 and 2 because of blu-ray? Right... Chaos73 04.21.2006 13:35 Ok... I know I am new around here...but where is the PS3 fan site. I see alot of crap in here. Yes the Xbox360 is a cool machine....but here we wish for the PS3. Yes it's ok to own any or all of the NextGen systems (which I will do...I already have the 360) but, Can we kind of keep posts more slanted toward the PS3...our hopes...our dreams...or dislikes....things like this. Let's hope E3 doesnt dissapoint....face it we have not seen much really. We get alot of tidbits of news...CGI graphics and misinformation. My PS2 finally took a crap and I need that PS3.. :) Play on Gamers Unregistered - nirwanda 04.23.2006 16:30 blu-ray only runs at 24 fps so it's actually uses less data ie. less pixel's per second than either 1080i or 720p that most of the 360 games use also ms has confirmed that the hd-dvd drive will run in 1080p at 24fps same as blu-ray and as for the brothers in arms screen shot's they look like target renders to me if that in game on either console then so is motorstorm Add Comment |
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