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03 Mar 2006 10:57 | Webmaster | Playstation 3 | Xbox 360 PS3Today.com | Link to this article 
2K Games, a publishing label of Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. , announced today The Darkness, a premier video game based on the popular comic book franchise. The Darkness is currently in development for next generation console systems and is scheduled to be released next winter. Under development by the award-winning developer Starbreeze Studios, The Darkness video game is based on the best-selling comic book series from Top Cow Productions and utilizes a Starbreeze internally developed next-generation game engine. The Darkness will feature a distinct blend of dark modern crime drama and supernatural horror with intense first person non-linear gameplay. "The Darkness video game is a dynamic first person shooter that allows players to call upon the forces of the evil underworld as they fight in gritty, urban environments," said Christoph Hartmann, Managing Director of 2K Games. "Armed with an arsenal of guns, gamers will battle an array of demonic creatures and supernatural powers. The dark and dynamic comic book storyline will translate perfectly into first-person action that fans will love." In the game, players assume the role of mafia hitman Jackie Estacado. On the night of his 21st birthday, Jackie is possessed by "The Darkness," an ancient demonic entity that gives Jackie spectacular powers. The story, written by Eisner Award winner Paul Jenkins, follows Jackie and his fight with the fictional Francetti mafia. As the story unfolds, the player will learn to utilize traditional weapons and the extraordinary powers of The Darkness. The best-selling comic book series "The Darkness" launched in 1996 and is currently published in 19 different languages around the world. Union Entertainment, a feature film and video game production company is overseeing the video game adaptation of the franchise. A feature film based on the franchise, produced by Platinum Studios and Dimension Films, is in pre-production for projected release in 2007. "The Darkness is a great franchise and we're proud to be developing the game with 2K Games, Starbreeze and Union Entertainment," said Matt Hawkins, Top Cow's President and COO.    Add Comment  1 -
Unregistered - Miles 03.03.2006 11:37 Coming to PS3 "AND" the 360 This is way to funny because I was just on voodooextreme.com and they were saying this game is on the cover of a playstation mag and how it looks like Sony made a big score and it won't be coming the 360 after all, good news for Sony! It's just the way he said it like any other ps3 fanboy and it was so incorrect! Im just tired of going to sites like that and ign were all they do is praise that piece of crap ps2 and non exsitent ps3! 2 -
to #1verdimus 03.03.2006 13:29 if you're tired of going to Sony-partial websites then why are you going there in the first place? what is it? are you tired of being tired, or are you not tired of being tired? just like you're tired of hearing praise for Sony, someone else may be tired of hearing you complain about being tired of hearing praise for Sony. btw, i couldn't really care less about a Darkness game, no matter what system(s) it's on. at this point, a PS3 launch date, or info on MGS4/Halo 3 would be much more preferable news. 3 -
#2Unregistered - AP 03.03.2006 13:56 fORGET ABOUT MGS4...SPLINTER CELL LOOKS BETTER THAN THAT!!! ALSO DARKNESS WHO?? WHO CARES BUT YEAH #1 IS RIGHT IT WAS ON THE COVER OF PLAYSTATION MAG! Seriously check out SPLINTER CELL BRO IT LOOKS SWEET! THE 360 KICKS A$$!!! 4 -
Xtrm L1481L1TY 03.03.2006 14:01 Yah I could care less for this game but atleast it's game news for the PS3. If you go to the Xbox 360 news all you will see is games, games, games, games which is exactly what I like to hear instead of blu-ray this, blu-ray that. The last thing I seen on my PS2 was Disk Read error, disk read error, disk read error..... 5 -
I agree... I don't like the Sony Hype.Joe 03.03.2006 14:04 The PS3 is too over-hyped. The lies about the Blu-ray has broke the camels back for me. I love playing on the XBOX360. Can't wait for Ghost-Recon:Advanced War Fighter next week... 6 -
Xtrm L1481L1TY 03.03.2006 14:08 Oh hell yes, I have my copy of Ghost-Recon:Advanced War Fighter allready paid for. I thing Graw will be and Oblivion also coming out this month will be killer apps and sale a sh*t load of X360's. I allso hearing a lot of PS3 fans sick and tired of waiting so they opt for the 360. Ghost-Recon:Advanced War Fighter 16 online Co-op story mode is just f*ck'n sweet dude! 7 -
Unregistered - wotter 03.03.2006 14:13 So? Let them buy xbox360's, whats wrong with it? Atm, I'm just waiting bc I'm unimpressed with what I've seen. 8 -
try Fight Night Round 3Unregistered - GuyOne 03.03.2006 14:16 it's loads of fun. Waiting for GRAW. 9 -
Xtrm L1481L1TY 03.03.2006 14:19 I did! Check out my achievments on my gamertag: Xtrm Liability. I've been playing fightnight round 3 the last few days and I have one more achievment to unlock then it's time to test my boxing skillz on XLIVE. 10 -
Unregistered - hslk 03.03.2006 15:18 PS3 IS GOING TO BE THE #1 SELLIN CONSOLE I THE U.S (REMEBER PS2, PS1 #1 SEELING)THERE IS NOTHING U STUPID XBOX360 OWNERS CAN DO ABOUT IT. PS3 WILL GET THE BEST GAMES. THE BEST U UNDERSTAND. 11 -
Unregistered - uuuunvnv 03.03.2006 15:30 while i own a 360, and i really dont care for sony, not bc i hate the brand( i got a sxrd hdtv) just bc the only game that sony has that i want is the gta series. every other game type, i feel 360 has better, and thats basicly bc of live, and ubisoft happens to like xbox better. but you people really need to look at the big picture. yea sony was #1 the last 2 times, but anyone in pro sports can tell you the hardest thing to do is 3 peat, and unless they start showing some absolutly amazing, and i mean crazy amazing. then all this hype is going to destroy there reputation permanitly. i hope they have a hot system and some hot games, but i dont see it happening until 07 12 -
thats funny #1Unregistered - oo 03.03.2006 15:42 #1 strange how I just read the same post on a different site earlier! So u copied the post and changed the title off of xbox360news.com on the same topic! 13 -
.............Unregistered - Vash 03.03.2006 16:05 This is why I don't bother coming here anymore someone has to start something and it gets out of proportion, all I'm going to say is that this so called Console war is making gamers ignorant I haven't seen anything right now that has given me the slightest interest in a next gen console, maybe at the end of the year some interesting games will come out by then I'll have enough to buy two or three consoles plus some games. 14 -
Maybe this will change your mindUnregistered - zt 03.03.2006 17:36 http://www.xbox360news.com/Blogs/NewsCom/hqs/blr_2344.aspx 15 -
mehUnregistered - daniel 03.03.2006 20:29 Im just waiting for oblivion and two worlds! this will kill the ps3 these 2 games! BEST RPGs mabey ever! 16 -
Fony Sony Unregistered - xgamer 03.04.2006 02:26 Fony Sony is such a big joke, 1st, there is NO!!! ps3, blu ray is goin down the tubes fast!!, Sony lies soooo bad, they'd say there's still a ps3 possible spring launch date 2006 when it will be winter 2007, lol, they cant tell the truth it's always a scam always a joke a lie. What's funny is all the sh"t they will spew, thats the only reason I have come here, it's sooo funny. Better than comedy central. Fony Sony Boy's, you will get your ps3 but it will be different than promissed, guaranted, it will still suck but you'll have it, feb.2007 I promise. Blu ray will be 1x and slow as sh"t and totally always going out,breaking down. So far their reliability is extremely short per sony even. They cant get the hardware issues fixed, also the cell is choppy and not smooth at all your ps3 is under powered to run 7 + 1 cores to the point where the ps3 will even run smoothly. Your all really in for many many more let downs. Sony sucks and lies, you'll see. There peak will be remembered as the ps2, but blu monday is what the ps3 will be seen as from now on. Blu monday!!! 17 -
wow!Unregistered - lol 03.04.2006 03:20 all i can see on this site is Xretards saying: i love my XBOX360, i love my XBOX360,i'm waiting for GRAW,... LOLOLOL! just when i imagine your stupid faces.....HAHAHAHAAH! don't think you're converting anybody by posting under 10 different names to pretend your number is very high. your cliche comments are hilarious. 18 -
Xtrm L1481L1TY 03.04.2006 12:55 Maybe because there is nothing interesting going on in PS3 land. I've been posting as Xtrm anyone else using different names? I don't think so. I am a gamer and I have every god given right to come here if it involves games whether it be Sony, MS, or Ninty. 19 -
Unregistered - Twist96 03.04.2006 14:31 At one point I was literally questioning if 360 was worth it. I bought a Core system, knocking me back for accessories, and CoD2. CoD2 was repetitive, and another WWII shooter, rly. I only bought in the knowledge it was a "safe bet" over games PGR3 and PDZ, which have had mixed reviews everywhere. It WAS boring, and I completed the single player without being enthralled at all. But then, things started to change. I found the "Veteran" mode. God good, ALL games should be this intense and challenging. It is non-forgiving, and the fact that you have to opt to the sheer vartety of more strageic moves just to move 10 yards makes it so much more fun than the bland normal mode. The game SHOULD have been sold on this mode. Amazing. Around the same time, the new releases after launch start coming out. I have seen games that are overhyped and turn to be complete and utter *** (50 Cent: Bulletproof, and in fact a lot of other "urban" games as an example) more and more in the last year. But no. The games that were hyped DIDN'T turn out complete ***. Fight Night Round 3, DOA4... great reviews all round. At the same time, I have this good feeling now that GRAW and Oblivion will turn the same way. Also at the same time, and thank god for the internet, people start finding out about the PS3 BEFORE they go out and spend money on it. Such as the news, that not only will the first Blu-ray players cost $900, but this will invariably delay the PS3 and make it cost WAY over the odds. The movies themselves will be $25. At least DVD was around for a little while before PS2 incoperated it's playback. Sony copy Microsoft's online service, and Nintendo's handheld. They are some of the most shady business practitioners I know. And no matter what Sony fanboys say, we are not "MStools" or what have you. For example, many people who a 360, and myself included, are EXTREMLY impressed with what the Revoultion is doing. It looks like a hellofalotta fun, and I WILL be buying one. Oh, and look, another thing that Sony stole- that new PS2 controller with the Rev-like features. Sony have been revealed to be lying on so many counts. The Killzone E3 demo was fake, the revelation that NO GAME, despite PS3's theoritical capaility, will look graphically amazing whilst running the hyped 1080p, at 120fps, on dual HDTV screens, etc, etc. At one point I was gonna go multiplatform, PS3 and Rev included, but I am DISGUSTED with Sony's business techniques. They reveal TECH DEMOs, then tell people it's the real deal, and people jump on the bandwagon. One friend of mine literally sucks Sony's *** when it comes to this. When I talk about GRAW, Oblivion, CoD2, Fight Night Round 3 etc. etc., he wont shut up about MGS4! Don't get me wrong, that looks like something PS3 could pull off, and something that 360 could, IMO (and in Hideo Kojima's opinion too), and I fully trust that game will be amazing. But thats it, the ONE game that is anywhere near a killer app. The rest is a crock of ***. So people wow over the Killzone 2 demo- do people remember (myself included) how *** it was in it's gameplay? Even though BLACK wasn't released then, that is the game Killzone wanted to be, but Killzone was a joke. Another claim my friend made was about how PS3 was dozens of times more powerful- I- and I am not joking- LAUGHED in his face! He literally quoted the E3 presentation- I think he watches it like 5 times everyday or something. Reportetly, people wow over the E3 motocross demo- who the *** plays motocross games anyway?! Really? Some people really forget gameplay. And this is where 360 and Rev EXCEL. And this is why I believe 360 and Rev fans are true gamers, foucusing on whats fun in gameplay, whislt other have been literally sucked into PS3's hype machine. MAN, are they gonna be disapointed. I was thinking "what if I spend £370 on the 360 just for it to be complete *** in the long run?" Even I was worried about the claims of the PS3, but the fact is, its all complete bull, and has been proved. Sony are trying to kill 360 in the hype of PS3 as they did to the Dreamcast with the PS2. Well i'm sorry, but 360 is just too strong (I loved the Dreamcast too), seriously. It turns out that it's hyped games are coming out to be fantastic, and another thing that interests me is the slow shift of favourable opinion on Perfect Dark Zero- something like 80% of all reader reviews on Gamespot are postive, over 8 out of ten or more at this time. I find this interesting that this is happens only months after the release- its as if some people ACTAULLY got it home and played it, rather then Sony fanboys giving it ludicrious scores like 1 out of 10 for everything at the launch. Operation Light Flame, anyone? Seriously, despite my inital fears, I am comfortable as a 360 owner now. The hyped games are ACTAULLY GOOD on release- and 360 is starting to show to the variety the Dreamcast once had- the Dawn of the Dead-esque Dead Rising- that looks like fantastic fun. Test Drive Unlimited, and MMO racer? Great! The brands I am looking forward to on 360 include: GRAW Oblivion Splinter Cell: Double Agent Sonic Dead Rising Test Drive Unlimited Game that interest me on PS3: MGS4 The Getaway (Just because I like the series, not for the Tech Demo) Well, thats my two cents. I love my 360, and I haven't even got online yet! 20 -
Stop itUnregistered - ESP 03.04.2006 15:59 I don't know what you guys are going on about which console is better or what isn't my concern, I'm going with the ps3 because it has the games I perfer and I doubt that the ps3 is going to be $900 their hasn't been any offcial pricing and I'm seriously doubt myrill Lynnch Predictions. Honestly I care who here perfers which console, it's not about the graphics or the online or specs or all that stuff it's about who makes a great game plain and simple if you people are going to go on about the companies instead of the games then your not real gamers. 21 -
ughhhUnregistered - hoosiredaddy 03.04.2006 16:11 Quietly waiting for gears of war.... and huxely..... 22 -
Xtrm L1481L1TY 03.04.2006 16:14 Wow! I cannot believe you said all that and have not even put the 360 online. I myself believe the 360 is'nt much of an advantage over last gen unless you have an HDTV and especially online. XLive will add soo much to the game play it will blow your mind. Trust me, get connected to XLive asap! Well sinse there's really no decent gamming news I think I'll take the liberty to add some spike to the dull PS3 front. One game everybody is overlooking has got to be OVER G. This has to be one of the most overlooked games for the 360. How did I let this one slide unnoticed? I’ll never know, but Over G looks like another AAA title to come to the 360 that many didnt even see coming. Just looking at the landscape dropped my jaw because Flight Simulator-X (PC) looks like NES graphics compared to OVER G. You can see more screens of Over G here: (these are all ingame graphics as well) http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/761/761470/img_2970573.html http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/761/761470/img_3072016.html http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/761/761470/img_3079587.html http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/761/761470/img_3079586.html http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/761/761470/img_2970571.html 23 -
Xtrm L1481L1TY 03.04.2006 17:33 On a Higher note for the PS3 I'll add this; I think that Sony will take the show at this years E3. I believe all the lack of news on the PS3 front is just building up to a major blow out this E3. If not, Sony is doomed to loose many potential consumers to the Box with the X factor. 24 -
EnforcerOfTheTruth 03.04.2006 18:01 LOL I can't believe my freakin eyes what I'm reading here. Sheesh xbugs (or better Ugly) you are so ridiculous, thats just too funny. You guys are talkin about games and you totally forget that most of your stuff people get on PC. Truth is Sony has the best games and most exclusives. Truth is Sony has the most innovative games that you will never see on any other console or PC. And truth is Sony has the best franchises. Who plays MS? Xbug I think I have to tell you that this is a racing game and many people play this genre. Is it maybe cause it looks so great, that you don't like it? Ohhhhh You xbugs are talkin about graphics and you totally forget that the PS3 blows xflop in amloust every spec away. Truth is PS3 is harder to develope for than 360. This means the 1st gen won't look much better than 2nd gen xflop games, but as the time goes on the games will start to look much better. And no Kojima didn't say MGS4 is possible IN SAME QUALITY on xflop. You xbugs are talkin about how Sony is stealing something and screwing us, but you totally forget what MS is and what they do to you dear xbugs. Sony is stealing Nintendo's handheld? Please, only cause somebody makes a handheld doesn't mean he steals it from N. Sonys handheld is much different that anything N has to offer and it's btw more of a multimedia system than a handheld. Now let me introduce MS to you: Windows - stolen from Apple. Vista - stolen from Apple and Linux. The new vista internet explorer - stolen from firefox. Xflop gamepad - stolen from N. Xflop360 gamepad - stolen from Sony and N. Lies - where is the HD-DVD that was promised from the start? And now comes the best part: $100 freakin bucks for a $hitty, cheap 20GB HDD. LOL xbugs, you must be aware that not everybody is so dumb to be screwed that big. You just must love when Billy takes you deep down ;-) Sony can even release in 2007 and they will still win this gen, cause most PC gamers and this are not few, will wait cause of obvious reasons for the PS3. And here something for my lil xbug: 1. PS3 won't cost $900 but probably $500-600. 2. The movies won't cost $25 but $17-23 ;-) 3. The Killzone tech demo was not ingame cause the devs didn't have the hardware to run it in that quality smoothly. Now it looks just as good or even better. 4. They never said PS3 will handle dual HDTV output in 1080p. Get you facts straight, dual HDTV output works in 480p and this was stated from the start. The last thing I have seen on xflop360 was not true 720p, not true720p, not true720p, world record in overheating problems after just 10min of play, world record in overheating problems after just 10min of play, world record in overheating problems after just 10min of play, disc scratched, disc scratched, disc scratched ;-) The last thing I have heard from some true gamers and not xbugs was xflop looks cheap, xflop looks cheap, xflop looks cheap, I'm dissapointed with xflop, I'm dissapointed with xflop, I'm dissapointed with xflop...Ohhhhhh xbugs how bad :-( The truth is that you with your $hitty console and games, way too overpriced, $hitty HDD don't even have the right to say one bad thing about the PS3. Just look at your $hitty xflop and what Billyboy is doing to you first. And btw we all know who is behind Xtrm and all the other ridiculous posts. Welcome back Ugly, I owned your lil ass way too many times ;-D 25 -
Landa 03.04.2006 19:42 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL MGS4 on 360 Wake up already 26 -
Landa 03.04.2006 19:42 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL MGS4 on 360 Wake up already 27 -
Unregistered - Joker 03.05.2006 11:18 Xtrm Ugly that's no suprise, honestly I don't care who has the better console I buy a console for the games not because of a companies past or history, I'm sticking with the ps3, my pc and maybe the big N's rev. 28 -
Xtrm L1481L1TY 03.05.2006 13:31 What makes you think I'm UGLY? I'm not sure whether You're calling me ugly as in 'not good looking'....or if you're mistaking me with someone that goes by the user name "ugly", but I can assure the neither is the case. Furthermore, you guys are just cruel! I mean, just because I own an Xbox 360, does that mean I can't be interested in multi consoles? Am I not allowed to be disappointed in Sony as a gamer and a PS fan? It's as if you get the biggest thrill out of your day to put down other gamers and call them fags/ugly simply because they don't agree with you. That's just sad, get a life dude, or a shrink. "Stuttering Terminator" - I would highly recommend committing yourself to an insane asylum on 24/7 observation and get that head full of bad wiring fixed. You're just pathetic dude, really! 29 -
Stupid XBOXUnregistered - 2123123 03.05.2006 14:42 Everyone will say that SONY is overhyping; HAHAHAHA. XBOX Does the same thing, watch TV sometime. Xbox had the g@yest enterance on MTV making it look like the coolest thing ever and sh!t and my favorite is the commericals... "Jump in" or w/e that's the biggest phucking bandwagon slogan i've seen. I Have YET to see any commericals with any sign of a PS3, LAST time it was even 'Hyped' was E3 2005. 30 -
EnforcerOfTheTruth 03.05.2006 16:26 Watch out who you call out Ugly ;-) 31 -
DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!Unregistered - the man 03.05.2006 16:39 The reason you haven't seen a PS3 add yet is because it doesn't exsit. duh! 32 -
WTFUnregistered - mfers 03.06.2006 04:51 mfing fuks of all mfing fuking fucers, this Looks like ps1 graphix!!!What the hell is wrong with you 360/ps3 nerds!!! Sega master systems, there's the real deal!!! 33 -
Bill Gates is your mumUnregistered - Bill Gates daddy 03.06.2006 04:53 It's a fact that N64 are twice as powerful as PS3. And the X360. If you say it's a lie, check this website: www.virus-screws-your-computer.com. If you think it's true then you are f...king nice! 34 -
WTF!!Unregistered - wtf of 'all mfing fukers 03.06.2006 04:54 I make better graphix with my ass shi --------> ttin' out some 360 fukin crap systems! 35 -
The Darkness Video GameUnregistered - asdf 03.06.2006 12:52 Why is nobody in The Darkness Video Game thread talking about The Darkness Video Game? For the love of Christ people, at least try to stay on topic! That said, I hope this game is good. I was such a big fan of The Darkness comic books and I can't really imagine how they would make all that into a video game, but here's to hoping! 36 -
Unregistered - Twist96 03.06.2006 16:35 PS3 OFFICIALLY DELAYED: http://ps3.qj.net/Playstation-3-Delay-Confirmed/pg/49/aid/10139 Well, OBVIOUSLY it was gonna happen. Also, to whoever siad its $100 for a 20Gb 360 HDD, consider that a PS2 Memory Card coming in at an AMAZING 8mb costs 20 Dollars. Do the math.... 37 -
EnforcerOfTheTruth 03.06.2006 16:47 You must have forgotten it's a totally different format and is way smaller than a HDD. Such things are always much more expensive than a normal HDD. BTW we get a 40GB HDD bundled with Final Fantasy for $95 ;-) 38 -
OkUnregistered - Bflow 03.06.2006 19:22 It's all about the games. Competition just equalls better games. By the way the Xbox had the advantage this gen because of it superior power. Especially games from Ubisoft. They looked and felt alot better on the box. But that won't be the case anymore. Yeah, GRAW is coming out this week and i will be picking it up for my 360. But later when games are released on both systems at the same time I'm actually going to have a hard time choosing which system i want it for. And when the PS3 lauches(probably this holiday season) a lot more quality games will be out by then. Yeah the 360 is going to have a good month in March but like every year the heavy hitters won't come out until the holidays and its going to be right around somebodies launch. Developers had final dev kits in January so they will have a lot more time to get games ready for launch. 360's kits came out like 1 1/2 to 2 months before launch. They both are and will be excellent systems and i will have both because i love games. The only diffence this time is that the box won't have better looking and performing games this time around. 39 -
360 LOVER AND PS3 WANTERUnregistered - MG 03.06.2006 20:57 Like it or not kids (360 and PS3 fans) but "BOTH", yes "BOTH" the 360 and the PS3 are going to be KICK AZZ MACHINES. Not to discard the REvy but don't know much about it. I really do not understand WHY OH WHY we spend so much time and effort at each others throats about these consoles. I KNOW FOR A FACT the 360 is a FANTASTIC MACHINE WITH A GOOD BUNCH TO OFFER and it will only get better. I am also very confident that Sony (even with it's weird market tacktics and hush hush) will put out a great console in the PS3. Why do you all go back and forth at each other like dogs? COMPETITION IS A GOOD THING. Other wise the market would get REAL STALE REAL FAST. So to the PS3 folks, get a 360 and ENJOY IT. And to the 360 folks, pic up a PS3 when they come out and ENJOY IT. Can't we all just play nice and get along ??? Cheers 40 -
I DisagreeUnregistered - 324234 03.07.2006 10:18 I doubt that either PS3/XBOX360 will come close to impressment. Actually I believe they're more of a let down from the fact that consoles in the past were always superior to the consumer market in PC's. This time around they'll fall short. Especially when my PC can already put any current X360 game to shame gooey wise. Of course developers will eventually unitize the consoles *full* potential one day; and by that time the PC/Electronic department face will completely change especially formats. (Which will no longer exist) 41 -
#40Retard 03.07.2006 10:19 Geez. 42 -
Unregistered - Zimm 03.07.2006 10:22 Yes, but the problem is you PC nuts are willing to dump TONS and TONS of cash into a machine to PLAY GAMES. Fact is your PC's Video card cost more than a 360 with an extra controller and a game. If your PC does indeed BLOW away the current next gen stuff (ie Fight Night 3) which I doubt, but even if it does, at the stupid amount of cash you probably have sunk into your PC, well I WOULD HOPE IT DOES for that investment. 43 -
Next-gen consoles will handle this game just fine thank you.Unregistered - Burly 03.07.2006 17:33 The 360 and the PS3 will easily keep up with the PC version. Also, judging the power of the 360 based solely on the games that have been released up until now is stupid, especially when you consider that the games that have come out for the 360 (to date) were optimized on pre-alpha kits - which were only 30 to 35% of the final hardware's power. These games (including PGR3) were rushed out for launch under those conditions and even then Call of Duty 2 looked and ran better on the 360 then even a high end PC. The truth of the matter is that the 360's GPU (a.k.a. Xenos) is a full generation ahead of the PS3's RSX and any GPU currently on the market for PC's with it's unified shader architecture, shader model 4.0, etc, etc, ...but that's another conversation. The point is that next-gen consoles will more than keep up with the above-average PC rig for the near forseeable future and you shouldn't judge a book by its cover but actually assess the tech for what it is. 44 -
#43 That's a lie from Microsoft Dark Samurai 03.07.2006 18:56 Having unified shaders doesn't mean it is a full generation ahead, that's a lie. Nvidia G80 which is a next gen DirectX 10 card will also have dedicated shaders not unified. These are just two different approaches, Nvidia believes dedicated is still better while ATI thinks unified is better...and Xenos isn't SM 4.0...this is another lie. SM 4.0 and DX10 specs weren't even fully finalized when Xenos was being developed back in 2004. Maybe it has a very limited support but it's not comparable to R600 which will be full DX10 and will have 64 unified pipelines and a clockspeed of atleast 700 MHz. Xenos is a joke against R600....don't even think about comparing them. And not only RSX isn't inferior to Xenos but it's superior and it's a newer GPU, Nvidia has got it ready for production recently in february. RSX: 74.8 billion shader operations per second 33 billion dot products per second 136 shader operations per clock Xenos: 48 billion shader operations per second 24 billion dot products per second 96 shader operations per clock 45 -
#42 (Zimm)Unregistered - 234234 03.07.2006 20:58 Yeah, that's true especially when all I have is money to waste away into the nothingness; same will go for those nuts who wasted up in the tens of thousands of dollars for early auctions on Xbox360. 46 -
#44 (A indepth analysis of the 360's and PS3's GPU's)Unregistered - Burly 03.07.2006 21:09 Thanks for your response dude. The next-generation of GPU's from both ATI and NVidia, which are launching around the same time as Windows Vista are in fact both of a unified shader architecture! If you want proof then just google "NVidia, G80, GPU" and you find lots of articles documenting NVidia's so-called change of approach. NVidia's comment that unified shader architecture "was not (in their opinion) the way of the future" was nothing more than a temporary comment that they made to downplay the advantage that the Xenos GPU will have over the RSX in the next-generation. But like I said, just research the G80 GPU's and you will see for yourself that NVidia was just being a good business partner to Sony and covering-up their own inferiority to ATI at that time. Besides this you also listed a number of benchmarks, comparing the Xenos GPU to the RSX. These benchmarks were 1) incorrect and 2) incomplete when doing a proper comparison of the two GPU's. I will address each of these one by one... 1) SHADER OPERATIONS PER SECOND: The Xenos GPU has 80 billion shader operations per sencond not 48! Perhaps you are refering to ALU's? Any ways, given the Xbox 360 GPU's multithreading and balanced design, you really can't compare the two systems in terms of shading operations per clock. However, the Xbox 360's GPU can do 48 ALU operations (each can do a vector4 and scalar op per clock), 16 texture fetches, 32 control flow operations, and 16 programmable vertex fetch operations with tessellation per clock for a total of 48*2 + 16 + 32 + 16 = 160 operations per cycle or 160 * 500 = 80 GOps per second. However, you were somewhat correct in saying that the RSX does 74,8 bilion shader operations per second and to this end Sony is most likely counting each pixel pipe as four ALU operations (co-issued vector+scalar) and a texture operation per pixel pipe and 4 scalar operations for each vector pipe, for a total of 24 * (4 + 1) + (4*4) = 136 operations per cycle or 136 * 550 = 74.8 GOps per second. 2) DOT PRODUCTS PER SECOND: Actually the RSX is only capable of 28.6 billion dot products per second (, NOT 33!) but comparing them to the Xenos is somewhat of a mute point anyways because they do not have any practical impact in and of themselves, especially considering that the RSX's ALU's work on vector4's and the Xenos ALU'S works on vector5's! 3) WHAT REALLY MATTERS IS GFLOPS... ...This is what I mean ...28.6 billion dot products per second / 550 MHz = 52 GPU ALU ops per clock for the RSX. Thus, the total programmable GPU floating point performance for the PS3 would be 52 ALU ops * 4 floats per op *2 (madd) * 550 MHz = 228.8 GFLOPS. This is less than the Xbox 360's 48 ALU ops * 5 floats per op * 2 (madd) * 500 MHz= 240 GFLOPS. This should not be of any surprise, given the fact that the total number of transistors in the RSX is 300 million versus 330 million for the 360's Xenos. ...seriously dude I can go on, and on, and on, ...but my point is that if you just take a bunch of component benchmarks and don't apply them according to the architecture in which they exist, then you are simply "buying-in" to the ignorant propaganda. If I was to get into the memory bottlenecks of the PS3 and its RSX, and compare peak performance scenarios between the 360's unified architecture and the PS3's independant architecture, you would feel even more stupid! 47 -
RE: #44 - Part 2:Unregistered - Burly 03.07.2006 21:48 Transistors: RSX = 300 million (RSX) Xenos = 330 million Architecture: RSX = Independant Xenos = Unified (24 parallel (48) 4 vertex) GFLOPS: RSX = 228.8 Xenos = 240 Shader Operations Per Second: RSX = 74.8 million Xenos = 80 million Shader Operations Per Cycle: RSX = 136 Xenos = 160 The bottom line is that both consoles will be able to run this game just fine! 48 -
#44 & #46 & #47Unregistered - Burly 03.07.2006 21:55 Woops, the spacing got screwed up, ...lets try this again... RSX: - 300 million transistors - Independant architecture (24 parallel and 4 vertex pipelines) - 228.8 GFLOPS - 74.8 million shader operations per second - 136 shader operations per cycle XENOS: - 330 million transistors - Unified architecture (48 pipelines) - 240 GFLOPS - 80 million shader operations per second - 160 shader operations per cycle The bottom line is that both consoles will be able to run this game just fine! 49 -
#48 Major Nelson and his lies.....again! Dark Samurai 03.08.2006 04:55 1-That guy is not reliable because he is an MS employee. I don't buy even one word from him. 2-I don't know where are you bringing those inflated numbers from but I copy pasted mine from the Xbox360 and PS3 specsheets. 3-All you(he) are(is) saying about RSX is just vague estimations based on a fictional 6800 times two GPU. No one knows RSX and it's architecture completely yet. About G80 you must look at the latest news, Nvidia doesn't want to move to unified yet. And RSX will probably have 32 pixel pipes + 8 vertex pipes based on G71. Again you're wrong. That 300 mil transistors they said was an estimation because at that time Nvidia's flagship GPU was 6800 Ultra. 4-About memory bandwidth, I know what you want to say even before you begin. Adding internal GPU EDRAM bandwidth to the bandwidth of other parts of the system is ridiculous. If that's how it works I can add the bandwidth of internal Cell components to the system and it will surpass the 360's bandwidth. 5-Propaganda? lol...man I think bashing and downplaying a GPU which isn't even unveiled yet is propaganda. Nvidia won't release a weaker GPU a year after ATI released Xenos. Sorry for my English... I'm trying to improve it ;-) 50 -
Unregistered - omg 03.08.2006 10:23 "Nvidia won't release a weaker GPU a year after ATI released Xenos." They will!!!PS3 sux, that's why their hardware will suck even more. That's why Atis GPU will own the Nvidia GPU. One year is just 365 days, that's not much! OMFG, I'm having a hard time pretending to be a 360 fan... 51 -
# 48Xtrm L1481L1TY 03.08.2006 12:48 Is this true?: RSX: - 300 million transistors - Independant architecture (24 parallel and 4 vertex pipelines) - 228.8 GFLOPS - 74.8 million shader operations per second - 136 shader operations per cycle XENOS: - 330 million transistors - Unified architecture (48 pipelines) - 240 GFLOPS - 80 million shader operations per second - 160 shader operations per cycle 52 -
Xtrm L1481L1TY 03.08.2006 12:52 I noticed he using 'per second' instead of 'per cycle'. ATI never claimed 96 billion Shader operations per 'second' ... 48*2 + 16 + 32 + 16 = 160 operations per cycle. 53 -
Xtrm L1481L1TY 03.08.2006 12:59 OK nevermind he is right! 54 -
To #49 and # 50:Unregistered - Burly 03.08.2006 13:39 Eventhough the PS3 is being released a year-plus after the 360 doesn't actually mean anything with respect to comparing the GPU's in both systems because both the RSX and the Xenon GPU were finished in the same technology window. In other words, eventhough the PS3 hasn't yet been released; the RSX GPU has been finished for a while now. But besides this, you are missing the pure ingenious that Microsoft used in this generation when developing their Xenos GPU. You see in order to assemble the hardware for a next-generation games machine you need to understand what is required from a software stand point - and Microsoft does! Infact if you want to go even further with that statement then you can also note that Microsoft also has advance knowledge of the requirements for Windows Vista connectivity and future Direct X requirements. So Microsoft used this inside knowledge and approached ATI to develope something that was essentially ahead of its time, from the standpoint of them dictating where future GPU's where going, rather than ATI and NVidia deciding! Of course I am talking about unified shader architecture, shader model 4.0, etc. which is in the Xenos GPU but isn't even in any current-gen PC GPU's. If you want proof of this then just look at the new GPU's set to launch a few months from now from both ATI and NVidia - they both are future Direct X compatible, have unified shader architecture, shader model 4.0, etc (just like the Xenos GPU). Also, if you want to know why even ATI doesn't even have any unified shader architecture GPU's out yet, - well it is because Microsoft learned from the last gen, that in order to decrease component costs over the course of the systems life cycle, you can't license the GPU technology. So now MS flat-out owns the GPU technology in the Xenos GPU, and NOT ATI, which is why ATI and NVidia are now following Microsofts lead and not the other way around. Any ways, both consoles will easily be able to handle this game and I am really excited to play it whether that be a Xbox 360 or a PS3. 55 -
Look hereDark Samurai 03.08.2006 14:09 http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/9487/ATI-Releases-Xbox-360-GPU-Technology-Papers/ ATI itself says shader model 3.0+ not 4.0 , case closed. Seriously my friend , don't you believe MS and ATI hype their product a bit? Don't believe anything they say like unified shaders are 100 percent efficient or the technology of Xenos is a martian technology , etc, etc. Nvidia RSX was completed in february this year not 2005 because it's based on Geforce 7900. I never said Xenos is a bad gpu...ofcourse it's an excellent one. What i'm saying is one must be too naive and ignorant to underestimate the king of graphics Nvidia. 56 -
If the Darkness looks as good as Ghost Recon then these pics are truly impressive!Unregistered - Toad 03.09.2006 03:28 After seeing Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter, I think that there might be something to this Xenon GPU after all. For a first generation game it is truly remarkable and I am going over to my friends house tonight to play some single player and some online (which rocks by the way :) I just hope that this Darkness game looks as good as Ghost Recon does and I sure hope that I will be able to hold out for a PS3 after tonight. I would have said that my chances were 90% before yesterday, but only 60% after seeing Ghost Recon for 20 minutes yesterday, ...I hope I don't break under those gorgeous graphics, and gameplay that looked funner than anything I had ever played. Must remain strong, ...I know; ...I'll just focus on the Darkness - doh! I forgot it's also comming out for the 360, ...aaaaaaaaaahhh! 57 -
READ AND SHUT UPUnregistered - Fizzle 03.09.2006 10:24 PS3 AND XBOX 360 HAVE “POOR CPU PERFORMANCE” Tech-heads claim that Sony and Microsoft are promising more than they can deliver in the processing department 15:08 Sony’s PS3 and Microsoft’s Xbox 360 will not be as powerful as their technical specifications - and clever marketing - make out when they land in your living room, according to technical experts. In an article on website Anandtech the author explains why the two next-gen consoles will not be as powerful in 'real terms' (i.e. when they actually have to crunch games) as they may seem from the specs touted by Sony and Microsoft. Anandtech ultimately surmises that both consoles will be around as powerful as each other. On top of that bombshell, it’s suggested that neither next-gen console will offer the advances in power-draining areas like game physics we were expecting. According to the report the Xbox 360 will only be twice as powerful as the original 733MHz Xbox, while the seven Synergistic Processing Elements (SPEs) in the PS3 will hobble the console’s peak performance to a similar power. The article references anonymous developers with knowledge of PS3 and 360 dev kits as being “not pleased” with the performance of either system. However, it is pointed out the combination of superior processing power, smoother online gaming and wireless pads will make the whole next-gen console gaming experience far better than the current-gen machines. And it’s not all bad news - Anandtech finds that the Graphical Processing Units (GPUs) in both the PS3 and Xbox 360 are extremely impressive. Developers are apparently “quite pleased” with the power of the GPUs, although the disappointing processing power does mean that they cannot be exploited to their maximum potential. It’s worth remembering that these findings are not endorsed by Sony or Microsoft, but the Anandtech article makes interesting and enlightening reading for anyone interested in finding out what all those crazy numbers and letters on spec sheets mean. It even explains what a teraflop and a floating point calculation is, which is pretty special if you ask us. thats quoting anandtech, the most respected technical website 58 -
OPEN YOUR EYESUnregistered - Member 03.09.2006 10:32 QUOTE: However, it is pointed out the combination of superior processing power, smoother online gaming and wireless pads will make the whole next-gen console gaming experience far better than the current-gen machines. --------- Hahahaha smoother online gaming <------- Not the PS3 wireless pads <----------------- Not the PS3 Do yourself a favour and download the song "OPEN YOUR EYES" by the and Goldfinger 59 -
To #57 Fizzle Xtrm L1481L1TY 03.09.2006 12:28 I've seen post that old Anandtech article a few other places lately. You're really making an a$$ of yourself and you don't even realize it. You know why? ........ Because that Anandtech article is like 10 months old and the guy who wrote it was going off PS3/360 specs and specs alone! At that time they did NOT have a physical PS3 or Xbox 360 to test. It's all theory and speculation. Now take that old article and throw in the trash because it's old news that means absolutely nothing. 60 -
WEBMASTERUnregistered - JIN KAZAMA 03.10.2006 18:58 Hey, Webmaster, can you please delete the comments that are about 360 vs. PS3. Please, that is a pointless issue and ti would really make it better to just focus on ps3 and its games and news no matter how insignificant they are. I believe if you start deleting the postings of the PS3 vs. 360, it will make your site much more professional, and not so primitive. I look forward to reading some poilte and intelligent conversations about the PS3. And if someone has something to say about the 360, then let it be an intellectual conversation, nothing like "XFLOP" or "POS3". Both systems are great, we just prefer the PS3 over the other. Thats all Thank you. Add Comment |
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