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17 Feb 2006 06:32 | Webmaster | Playstation 3 | Xbox 360 PS3Today.com | Link to this article
And reports are just in that hell has frozen over...As unlikely as it may seem, Sony and Microsoft could very well be developing games together in the future. According to Tetsuhiko Yasuda, Sony Computer Entertainment Asia’s corporate executive managing director and senior vice president of Asia, Sony does not regard Xbox as a competitor. Rather, the company may even consider working with Microsoft to develop games together, Yasuda said.
However judging from the article at DigitTimes, one of the leading Asian websites for Tech news who spoke to Tetsuhiko Yasuda, it is still a bit unclear if Yasuda was referring to the Asian market only when he made the comment. Either way I think the much too common view that Sony and Microsoft are these to giants that hate each other’s guts and will only settle for world domination is a bit skewed to say the least. In fact there seems to be a lot of respect and admiration between the two companies. There is room for more than one player in the console marketed, and both companies seem to agree on that. Again, we all know how easy it is to take a comment out of context, so how concrete these plans for a joint game project between Sony and Microsoft really are is impossible to tell. So don’t expect Sony and Microsoft to announce anything soon. Add Comment Unregistered - some guy 02.17.2006 07:19 MICRONY hahaha or sosoft. or microsonysoft or somicronysoft Unregistered - Chris Toal 02.17.2006 07:22 If these two giants worked togather (Sony's brand recognization and Japanise support, & Microsoft's online infrostructure) they would be unstopable. Game on! turkmen117 02.17.2006 07:27 would be nice if the game had 2 characters exclusive to eaxh side of the companies. Like mixing killzone with gears of war or something Hmm 02.17.2006 07:30 Rofl @ sosoft Dark Samurai 02.17.2006 07:34 I submitted this news hours ago but they've posted it in their own name. But it's good news. Microny? lol... Unregistered - hardwood2001 02.17.2006 07:38 it's all a conspiracy! this is why ms keeps praising nintendo so they'll join forces nex-gen, and why ms is trying to rebuild the pc market. we the gamers will be screwed into buying the only console on the market that inbody's sony,ms,nintendo, and the pc it's all about the money and nothing less, we the gamers are nothing but toys to the corporate world. LEBANESE FREEDOM FIGHTER 02.17.2006 07:43 actually these r just more and more rumors.. shut the hell up sony and give us some infos.... Unregistered - xflop sux 02.17.2006 07:58 Lebanese what? are you sure you are on the right forum? Webmaster 02.17.2006 08:06 I rewrote the news article you sent in and I just forgot to add your name. I have updated the article :) Thanks for the news! Unregistered - Erik the Red 02.17.2006 08:11 If they do develop games together I would like to see a new original game. Dark Samurai 02.17.2006 08:19 lol...no problem. I'm glad to help. Unregistered - Vincenzo 02.17.2006 08:36 Its like they say in the mafia , keep your friends close but keep your enemies even closer Unregistered - JsonHenry 02.17.2006 08:57 They must be worried about Nintendo taking over again. That or China is going to make a game console, sell it for half the price, and offer more options like China is doing their new cars. Unregistered - Anonymous 02.17.2006 09:34 This would be great. Just think about it. That would be an instant savings of about $500 that most people fork over just to play the exclusive games of another console. A Halo for the PS2. A MGS for the Xbox. A Oblivion for the PS2. Wow.....too bad I doubt it will be like that... Unregistered - The one 02.17.2006 09:39 I said it before and ill say it again, "the joke is on us" competition is an illusion afterall Sony does depend on MS success because they buy windows OS for their laptops from MS. The only thing i dont agree with is that we need more than one console and i hope only the 360 survives because i like the controller and the sexy console itself plus it has plenty of power to satisfy. Who wants to have 3 consoles taking up valuable space on the wall unit. Unregistered - NEWS 02.17.2006 09:42 READ! I don't have a link yet in English, but's official (I'm sure you'll see it here today) Nvidia has just OFFICIALLY stated that the RSX is ready for mass production. Sony won't be paying them this fiscal year (Which ends in April) thus they will be starting production in May. A spring release is near impossible, and September suddenly seems alot more logical. Unregistered - Havoc 02.17.2006 09:55 I mentioned this before that Ms Sony will work together but I didn't think it would have to do with games. MicroSony PLAYBOX LOL. Unregistered - sony4ever 02.17.2006 10:15 well this good really good news in a way, if this does work out in the future, then we have as many flame wars lol... bc everyone would be doggin their own console that way haha.. Unregistered - sfda 02.17.2006 11:22 Damn!!!They're taking out nintendo!!!They've been there since 1982 and now sony and microsoft are workin togetha to get em out. I was b4 a ps3 fan, but I'm now joining NINTENDO Unregistered - sonystillsucks 02.17.2006 11:24 Hey does anyone think that Sony and MS are going to combine online playing???It would be awsome if 360 gamers could play ps3 gamers online!!! Unregistered - amed 02.17.2006 11:43 Its really funny how companies work, on one side they're threatning to sue, on the next they are willing to sleep with each other Unregistered - Unknown 02.17.2006 12:33 Microsoft together with sony is like Nas and Jay-Z as rappers working together. So what if all this is a conspiracy, might as well say President Bush is working with Osama Bin Laden together to take over the world LOL!!!! This world is like the Truman Show, everything is a movie. One big lie to all!!!! How to escape it all? Just do what Jim Carry did in the Truman Show, seek out the truth, because the truth will set you free. The government is spying on us, listening to everything we say and do. Might as well say the whole world is a conspiracy, since the beginning of time. They are playing us like video games, now you know how it feels to be a character in a game. They think their Gods!!!!!! EnforcerOfTheTruth 02.17.2006 12:45 LOL this is bull$hit, MS is maybe not their #1 competitor, but it's still one. Unregistered - sonyissooooogay 02.17.2006 12:55 i THINK YOU HAVE IT WRONG Sony is MS competitor this round pal!!! #23 I cant still believe you are supporting these Sony freaks!!!Lie after Lie and your still on their nuts..Get off em pal...Reality is a beatch and Everyday thay goes by the hype is turning into dissapointment...MS has a good position this time like the PS2 did before xbox followed 20 months later.. Big lead the PS2 had no wonder why it outsold the xbox.... This time the PS3 will release in fall with crappy release games and by then MS will have next-gen games with graphics way better then the PS3.. PS3 is doomed besides watching movies on blu ray waht advantages does Sony have anymore..No HD comes with it. Its not more powerful than the 360..What are you wating for?? Also GRAW comes out March 9th get a 360 and play next gen! dont wait for the PS3=PENIS SMALLER THAN 3 INCHES TO COME OUT! Unregistered - Weird Gamer 02.17.2006 13:01 #24 No one cares what you think. Unregistered - BEATCH #25 YOU BEATCH!! 02.17.2006 13:05 #25 your weird! I think your a test tube baby!! Dont post anymore your post say nothing!!! #24 HAS SOME GOOD POINTS BEATCH SO GET OFF HIS NUTS!!! Unregistered - Cruznik 02.17.2006 13:07 Does anyone know what this kids on. Unregistered - Weird Gamer 02.17.2006 13:09 Are you on drugs??? Unregistered - #28 your a little homo 02.17.2006 13:28 Are you g@y??? Just wondering!! I was wondering why you were on Sonys nuts like that!! So...R U?? Unregistered - FAMO 02.17.2006 13:39 Full user opinion All of you PS3 need to get your facts straight before bashing consoles. First of all, the cell processor doesn't even exist yet and all of the PS3 trailers (excluding a few) were all COMPUTER GENERATED. Yes, even the Killzone 2 vid was CGI. Don't believe me, here's what a developer from Epic said: "Well, Epic Games's Mark Rein has gone on record to say that "in addition to the Sony demos being shown by Phil Harrison, the Epic and EA presentations were the only third party portions actually running on the PS3 in real-time." Full article here: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/615/615531p1.html Maybe you can relate back to 1999 when Sony hyped the "emotion engine" in the PS2, and claimed they would be rendering movies on it... what ever happened to that? Plus, the console is rumored to be starting at around $450-500. Then add games, controllers and accessories to that total. Finally, it was confirmed that all in-game footage displayed by Microsoft at e3 was running on alpha developers kits, which are only 20-40% of the power of the final hardware, plus graphical effects were turned off to keep frame rates smooth enough. Full article here: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/615/615667p1.html So before you go bashing consoles, get your facts straight. Updated by Frag Daddy (see profile) - May 21, 2005 For those criticizing xbox 360.... Xbox360 games at E3 on Powermac G5s A pair of Apple Powermac G5 systems were actually running the Xbox 360 demos, not the 360 console. The consoles in the kiosks weren't actually running, they were just for show - now you know why all the controllers were wired. Because the G5 systems can only use a GeForce 6800 Ultra or an ATI Radeon X800 XT, developers had to significantly reduce the image quality of their demos - which explains their lack luster appearance. Anti-aliasing wasn't enabled on any of the demos, while the final Xbox 360 console will have 4X AA enabled on all titles. Xbox 360 vs. PS3 There are three critical performance aspects of a console: * Central Processing Unit (CPU) performance: The Xbox 360 CPU architecture has three times the general purpose processing power of the Cell. Cell's claimed advantage is on streaming floating point work which is done on its seven DSP processors. * Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) performance: The Xbox 360 GPU design is more flexible and it has more processing power than the PS3 GPU. In addition, its innovated features contribute to overall rendering performance. * Memory System Bandwidth: Xbox 360 has 278.4 GB/s of memory system bandwidth. The PS3 has less than one-fifth of Xbox 360's (48 GB/s) of total memory system bandwidth. When you break down the numbers, Xbox 360 has provably more performance than PS3. Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance. The truth is that both systems pack a lot of power for high definition games and entertainment. However, hardware performance, while important, is only a third of the puzzle. Xbox 360 is a fusion of hardware, software and services. Without the software and services to power it, even the most powerful hardware becomes inconsequential. Xbox 360 games—by leveraging cutting-edge hardware, software, and services—will outperform the PlayStation 3. Unregistered - Ultimate PS3 Fan 02.17.2006 14:19 X Bug terminator u killed it! Truth is the PS3 is WAAAAAAAAAY beyond the 3-60! The PS3 has way more memory bw and more speed ofcourse.. WAY MORE speed! I doubt Sony and Microsofties would work together because Sony alone is WAY TOO much by itself! Microsoft should stick with making OSs because the only defense they got is Halo and Sony has a WHOLE LOT of games! The only way PC can catch up is if the gaming companies make the games for PC. So if u want to say bad BS things about the PS3, go to an X Box 360 forum. Because people who are anti-Sony fans should NOT be here typing bs. Bottom line is PS3 OWNZ ALL! Unregistered - Fu@kdvill pop.Xbugs 02.17.2006 14:19 30 - FAMO Whata fu@k do you know about how a system works and which is better.Where did you get this sh!t an XcrapOnIt360 site or did Bill Gates tell you this crap.Stop acting like you know sh!t when you are a tottal Dumb ASS$. PS.Get the fu@k off the PS3 forums Xbugs Unregistered - Ultimate PS3 Fan 02.17.2006 14:22 What do u guys think? MicroSony? SonySoft? Microny? Sicryosoft? Sony Micro? Micro Mc Nagget?! I dunno! O_0!! Unregistered - famo 02.17.2006 14:24 Those are fact pal..Reality sets in and look what you act like!!! Just letting you know your waiting for nothing!!! lol.... #32 you are funny! Anger Managment anyone! lol.... You probably beat your mom! That or your sick of reality... Should I post some hype or something about the system!!! This just in PS3 WILL HAVE A GEORGE FOREMANN GRILL AND A SODA MACHINE.. LETS NOT FORGET TO MENTION THE AUTOMATIC BOWL PACKER... Common man chill out just dropping real facts and not all this hype crap your head is filled with.. #32 you need help! Unregistered - Ultimate PS3 Fan 02.17.2006 14:24 If Macintosh and Sony had a PC named u think it would be MacinSony? Macorony? Hmm 02.17.2006 14:32 LMFAO @ MACORONY + Sosoft playbox This is positivly hilarious. Unregistered - microsofties are horrible! 02.17.2006 14:37 MICROSOFT IS a DISASTER!! MICROSOFT IS HORRIBLE!! STICK TO OSs because ur system is HORRIBLE!! come on SING ALONG Sony fans! microsoft is HORRIBLE!! Their's 360's power is microSCOPIC compared to PS3's power! What knind of color is that?! white and green! Looks like a system for nothing but dirty white dudes because the box is white and yet has the fungus green! DAMN that STINKS!!! LOL! Stop posting BSes about the PS3 and get a damn JOB! U X Box fans r just mad because u don't have enough money to buy the PS3! :( F***** F*GS!! LOL!even with Gaylo 3 360 is still going to FALL! Dark Samurai 02.17.2006 15:03 The X360 vs. PS3 part that you wrote is from Major Nelson article and is so old. It's not based on facts, is too much biased and is full of lies (actually that guy is an MS employee). The most ridiculous part is the memory bandwidth part. You can't add the bandwidth of internal GPU EDRAM to other parts bandwidth. Cell is not bad at general processing at all, you can see the article "Cell Architecture Explained ver.2" on the net. RSX isn't unveiled yet and you can't compare it with 360 GPU yet. An MS employee says X360 is better..so what? Is that a surprise to you? Unregistered - Fu@kdvill pop.Xbugs 02.17.2006 15:10 34 - #32Famo As i said before eat sh!t and die.Don't write crap about something you dont know anything about dumb sh!t those are not Facts thats what you wrote give me a link.And everybody knows the PS3 specs are more powerfull then XcrapOnIt360s so stop writing Sh!t and get of the PS3 forums PS.When im angry i Fu@k your mommys Fat ass$ dont need Anger Managment after that Famo Unregistered - Fu@kdvill pop.Xbugs 02.17.2006 15:16 Here is a pic of a XcrapOnIt360 check it out PS.Link http://www.jldr.com/ohfelty2.jpg Unregistered - hoosiredaddy 02.17.2006 15:22 that would be so cool, microsoft and sony, working together.... that would be so awsome!!, then we all could be friends, playing the same games, no more flame wars!!, x360 and ps3 fans UNITE!!!! dcm 02.17.2006 15:36 as much as i like sony i think sony and microsoft together would be great i would love that and i know almost everyone else will also i can see this happening. Havoc 02.17.2006 16:06 I mean you got Sony, IBM and Toshiba working together for another five years but yet you have Sony and and Toshiba going at it with the next-gen dvd format. In the end it's all about the money and making a good product, If Sony and M$ saw that they could possibly come up with something good by working together I think they would do it but I don't see that happening anytime soon. EnforcerOfTheTruth 02.17.2006 16:11 LOL are these xbugs dumb or are they raelly dumb? Do they really want I pimpslapp them agan? Good I already did it, so now it's mostly copy and paste. Here we go: "The Xbox 360 CPU architecture has three times the general purpose processing power of the Cell. Cell's claimed advantage is on streaming floating point work which is done on its seven DSP processors." Very stupid statement, cause they only refer to xflops 3 cores and PS3 1 core. They totally forget what the specialised 7 SPU's are capable of. "In fact, specialized hardware can be significantly faster than general purpose hardware at certain tasks, giving the PS3 the potential to outperform the Xbox 360 in CPU tasks." and "if properly structured and coded for SPE acceleration, physics code could very well run faster on the PlayStation 3 than on the Xbox 360 thanks to the more specialized nature of the SPE hardware. Not to mention that physics acceleration is particularly parallelizable, making it a perfect match for an array of 7 SPEs." "The Xbox 360 GPU design is more flexible and it has more processing power than the PS3 GPU. In addition, its innovated features contribute to overall rendering performance." Another stupid statement cause you should know that the shader processing power of the 360 GPU is similar to that of a 24-pipeline ATI R420 GPU. Now add to the fact that RSX will probably have 32 pipes so the 360 GPU will be outperformed easily: Xenos: 48shaders * 10FLOPs per shader * 500Mhz = 240 GFLOPs RSX: 24pixel shaders * 16FLOPs per shader * 550Mhz = 211.2 GFLOPs 8Vertex shaders * 10FLOPs per shader * 550Mhz = 44 GFLOPs PS3 211.2 + 44 = 255.2 GFLOPs > 240 GFLOPs Xbox360 More facts: Pixel fillrate X360 4.00 giga pixels PS3 8.80 giga pixels Texel fill rate X360 8.00 giga texels PS3 13.20 giga texels Multisample fill rate X360 16.00 giga samples PS3 17.60 giga samples Geometry rate X360 0.50 giga polygons PS3 1.10 giga polygons Main memory bandwidth X360 22.40 GigaBytes/sec PS3 48.00 GigaBytes/sec Vertex texture rate X360 8.00 giga vertices PS3 4.40 giga vertices And again some mo: RSX Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines: 136 shader operations per clock 74.8 billion shader operations per second 33 billion dot products per second (51 billion dot products with CPU) Xbox360 parallel floating-point dynamically-scheduled shader pipelines: 96 Shader operations per cycle across the entire shader array 48 billion shader operations per second 24 billion dot products per second (33.6 billion dot products with CPU) Summary: RSX outperforms Xenos easily. The only advantage of Xenos is the unified shaders architecture, but this has nothing to do with performance. "* Memory System Bandwidth: Xbox 360 has 278.4 GB/s of memory system bandwidth. The PS3 has less than one-fifth of Xbox 360's (48 GB/s) of total memory system bandwidth." Thats the dumbest statement that could be ever made. Any who adds the EDRAM to GPU bandwidth has no idea how it works. Fact is the 10 MB EDRAM can only use 256GB/s internally and also only for the tasks it's specialised for like z and stencil operations, color and alpha processing and anti aliasing. When it comes to tasks between EDRAM and GPU the bandwidth is only 32GB/sec, the EDRAM is even unable to assist with simple texturing. Again like the CPU and GPU, the PS3 bandwidth outperforms the 360 bandwidth easily. But hey if you wanna add although it doesn't makes sense I can play this game with you ;-) I have to add then the 48GB/s to 204.8 GB/s Cell EIB and 76.8 GB/s Cell FlexIO Bus. This makes 329,6GB/s and is again more than what xflop has to offer - 278.4 GB/s. "Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance." You should know most of this are just rumours that were never stated by Sony. In fact Sony always delivered in the past => GT3, MGS2 demos prior to the PS2 launch. PS3 is in every aspect way more powerful than 360 if properly coded. I'll make now a prediction: 1st gen PS3 games will look like 360 2nd gen games. This means PS3 launch games will look like 360 games at that time, but of course not all, some will look worse. 2nd gen PS3 games will look better than 360 3rd gen games. Of course not all, some will look same. 3rd gen PS3 games will look way better than 360 4th or any past 4th gen games. Of course not all, but only some low budget or multiplattform games will look same or just a little better. #24 "i THINK YOU HAVE IT WRONG Sony is MS competitor this round pal!!! " Sorry but Sony won the last gen, this means MS wants to dethrone them => MS is their competitor. "Lie after Lie and your still on their nuts..Get off em pal" What lies? You should know most of this stuff are rumours. Fact is Sony always said Hd will be additional and fact is they didn't name the release date. If somebody is lieng or screwing their customers, it's sure MS. Where is hd-dvd? Why do you have to pay for the cheapest 20GB possible $100? Already years ago the Sony users had to pay $100 for 40GB HD LOL. "MS has a good position this time like the PS2 did before xbox followed 20 months later.. Big lead the PS2 had no wonder why it outsold the xbox" What big lead? Sony sold 5mill by the time xbox launched and 5 years later they sold 100mill and MS only 5mill. ...and again some lil, biased xbugs got terminated...you won't convince anybody here...get off our nuts and go play with your x$hitflop360...I know it sucks...just do it...:-D... EnforcerOfTheTruth 02.17.2006 16:13 "Common man chill out just dropping real facts" ...Bwahahahahahahahaha LOL ohhhhh sheeeeeet thats some funny stuff... Unregistered - jack carver 02.17.2006 16:21 There is stupid,sad and bored XBUG here who continues to plague this forum. He posts his crap only to upset us Sony fans or make fun of us. Ofcourse he hopes to make some of us buy that Xflop 1.5, he feels so lonley it seems. He uses different names like these: SONYISOVERHYPED wateva truth_hurts sonyblowsnobs! sonyblowsballs PS shee sony blows! SONY SUX PStreecutter leon famo SONYISLIES sonyrealityishere . . . . I had many fights and arguments with him but from now on I'm going to IGNORE him completely. I just wanted to request all of you fellow PS3 fans to do the same. He just lies and wants to start flame wars , if you look at the past articles you see that he has turned them to flame wars and completely disrupted our peaceful arguments about that article. Please just ignore him. With Best Regards Unregistered - famo 02.17.2006 16:21 Didnt Sony fire an employee for saying the 360 was a better system!! I am pretty sure they did! What about that article is false??? As far as specs it looks right to me! EnforcerOfTheTruth 02.17.2006 16:25 I would add Ugly American to that list. This guy loved to post or register under other peoples names. Since I pimpslapped him and made look foolish he never posted again under this name. I doubt that he leaved, he probably uses now the names you listed. Unregistered - modboy 02.17.2006 16:32 you know im tired of people saying the ps3 is way more powerful than the 360. how could this be even close to true? ps3 isnt even out yet. as a matter of fact its not even close to being complete. if you even believe those specs that sony is giving you take some time off and think how many time sony lied to us. xbox 360 is out now. sony isnt, save the fighting for when there is a console out. Unregistered - SONYIS1GAYCONSOLE 02.17.2006 16:33 The PS2 Had a HD?? 40 GIG HD??? Also XBUGTERMINATOR I think you are going to be in for a rude awakening when and if the PS3 comes out.. You think the games are going to look even close to what the 360 games will look like at that time??? Yeah if you smoke crack you might believe that.. Also when its all said and done the PS3 and 360 graphics will be so similar you wont even be able to tell. When the PS3 comes out the 360 games are going to make the PS3 release games look like crap trust me!!! XBUGTERMINATOR lay off the crack b/c PS3 isnt much if at all more powerful also Sony online will fail without MS help thats what they might actually work on together. I hope that Both companys work together on the online play and that both 360 and PS3 owners can play against eachother!!! Xbug- I though t I saw a post that you wouldnt pay to play online if Sony put a cost on it?? Why?? Are you cheap? If you are you wont be able to afford the PS3!!! Also XBUG Do you think that in the first year of the PS3 being released that any of the games will be blu-ray??? I highly doubt any will! If you think they will why?? EnforcerOfTheTruth 02.17.2006 16:46 Yeah the PS2 had a hd ;-) I'm not into drugs, but you surely will after you see the PS3 power. Why I wouldn't pay for online? Cause I'm cheap? Pu$$yass I don't pay for something I get on my PC for free ;-) BTW my PC pimslapps your xflop to the moon. I better have a great PC instead of xflop, cause I'm not cheap like you ;-) Unregistered - SONYTERMINATOR...LOL 02.17.2006 16:47 Compare: Product Name Sony PlayStation 3 Microsoft Xbox 360 Release Date 2006 Q4 2005 Controller Bluetooth Wireless 2.4 GHz Wireless Graphics Core Clock Speed 550 MHz 500MHz Graphics Processor RSX "Reality Synthesizer" Custom ATI Processor System Memory 256 MB XDR 512 MB UMA (Shared with GPU) Video Memory 256 MB 512 MB UMA (Shared with CPU) Embedded Video Memory n/a 10MB eDRAM Resolution 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p 480p, 480i, 720p, 1080i Controller Ports Supports up to 7 Bluetooth Controllers Supports up to 4 Controllers Digital Media Formats Compatible with CR-ROM, CDR+W, DVD, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD+R DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 CD, JPEG Photo CD Game Media Format Blu-ray BD-ROM Dual-Layer DVD-ROM Integrated Communications 802.11 B/G Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 2.0 802.11 A/B/G Wi-Fi ready, adapter not included Other I/O Connectors Ethernet (RJ45), 6 USB 2.0, CF Slot (Type I, II), SD Slot (Regular, Compact), Memory Stick, Memory Stick Duo, 1 x Optical Audio 3 USB 2.0, 2 Memory Slots, Ethernet Port (RJ45) Plug and Play Storage 2.5in Removable Hard Drive (Unkown Size) 20GB Removable Hard Drive Standard AV Output Connectors 2 x HDMI, 1 x AV n/a L2 Cache 512KB L2 cache, 256KB per SPE 1MB Processor Cell Processor Custom IBM PowerPC CPU Processor Clock Speed 3.2 GHz 3.2 GHz Built-in Features Backward Compatible with PlayStation 2, Stands Vertically or Horizontally Backward Compatible with Xbox (limited), Stands Vertically or Horizontally, Interchangable Face Plates, Xbox Live Service, Media Center Extender Memory Bandwidth 25.6 GB/s main memory bandwidth, 22.4 GB/s video memory bandwidth 22.4 GB/s main memory bandwidth, 256 GB/s to eDRAM, 21.6 GB/s FSB Surround Sound Multichannel Output (software driven) Multichannel Output (software driven) Unregistered - PapaPerv 02.17.2006 16:55 If the rumor is to be believed!! Since Sony said this and not MS, then Sony has conceded defeat at the hands of the 360!! EnforcerOfTheTruth 02.17.2006 16:56 LOL pu$$ass post specks so we can read them and please don't let things out ;-) I don't have P4 and your PC btw sucks ass if you need xflop for playing ;-) Unregistered - Cruznik 02.17.2006 17:05 Man even tho I don't like you _XbugTerminator_ you got a point most of these MS fanboys are idiots they spend most of they're time here then they do here then their own site then they make the sad excuse that their still playing their crap console. Truth be told where are the next gen games microsoft promised, I even read the March issue of Game Informer and Bill Gates admitted at CES that they don't even know when Halo 3 will be coming out and no offense to Sega but that game Full Auto got a 7.5 which isn't a good score. If you guys don't believe me the March issue of Game Informers front cover has some new game called Bioshock. BillGatesSucks 02.17.2006 17:09 Sure, I can see M$ working with Sony ... as a 3rd party developer when they get smart and give up on making hardware because Sony is just too dominant. Kind of like what Sega is doing now. Unregistered - Cruznik 02.17.2006 17:17 I don't give a damn about this console war anymore MS promised next gen games and they keep on getting delayed, I'm just going to wait until good games come out, I didn't mean to bash Sega but I thought Full Auto would be a good game. EnforcerOfTheTruth 02.17.2006 17:18 I know what you mean Cruznik, but I didn't come as XbugTerminator here. Here is my sad story I posted a few days ago: I wouldn't go so far to say that I hate them, but let me say it this way: I came here as a normal Sonyfan(not fanboy) that never participated in some console wars before and all this Sonyfan wanted to, was to read PS3 news. But after this calm, peaceful and humanitarian Sonyfan saw all this rude, violent, offensive, disgusting and abusive comments from some xboxfans, he, as sad it maybe sounds, threw his peaceful mind overboard and mutated in the feared, bloodthirsty and xbugslaughtering machine called XbugTerminator...A truly sad story...all I want is peace...but the world is brutal...:-(... Unregistered - Twist96 02.17.2006 17:24 I have seen no PS3 game that is better graphically than a 360 of the same production values. Thats all I'm saying. Except, I find to be an absoulte crock of sh1t that Sony are selling their console on CGI MOVIES. No wonder some people are so obessed. Sony won't reveal anything, so these YEAR OLD, CGI TECH DEMOS is all people have to go on, and they are guiliable enough to think it is the real thing. What a load of crap. Unregistered - ps3isn'tcool! 02.17.2006 17:54 XBUGTERM-YOUR A FAG! Also you talk so highly of a system that doesn't run and they dont have a running console to bring to the game shows..Just movies!!! Also GOW for the 360 is going to put MGS to shame.. You PS3 fanboys need to relize MS isnt going anywhere anytime soon. And its pathetic Sony is trying to work with MS.. Scared a little??? How about "Billy Boy can you help us we cant get our online system even close to yours"!!! Unregistered - bob 02.17.2006 18:01 MICROSOFT AND SONY SHOULD SETTLE THEIR DIFFERENCES AND JOIN TOGETHER. THEN MABY ALL OF THE BULLSH!TING ABOUT THEM WOULD STOP. Unregistered - Huxley 02.17.2006 18:23 When people here go over board and start these dumb flame wars theirs no point in staying here anymore until the next topic comes up, damn who cares about Sony and Microsoft petty war it's just making gamers foolish. Unregistered - Huxley 02.17.2006 18:24 I agree Bob. Ugly American 02.17.2006 18:58 Your posts are hysterical, Terminator. I realized a long time ago replying to you was more retarded than your posts. You don't listen to reason, but then again you can't really hear anything when your head is so far up your own ass. I am still here, there just isn't a good reason to post anything. What's great is when I respond to you, you act like a douche and lash out. When I just read the comments, you still act like a douche and lash out. Don't be scared. The PS3 is going to be great. There is no need to have an inferiority complex. Consider yourself still ignored. Unregistered - PS3 Fan....Not Fanboy 02.17.2006 19:03 Xbugterminator, that's such a sad story you just told us... I agree, all the moronic Xbox fanboys should get the hell off of this site with their garbage trash talk...... But what is even more sad is that you, a former Playstation fan became one of those same pathetic fanboys yourself. I'm gonna have to say that the PS3 fanboys who talk sh*t back to the Xbox fanboys are just as idiotic. You guys just give them more reason to post even more stupid crap. You could either act like 8 year olds and stoop down to their level or you could just ignore them. Unregistered - GAMEFACE 02.17.2006 19:52 Hey why are people so surprised that M$ and Sony are willing to develop games together. Hey get over your fanboy dreams and try to remember that this is a business these two company's are running. Then some of you fanboys act as if this means M$ and Sony are going to completely join forces to defeat Kidtendo, oops I mean Nintendo...think about it, in the console market Nintendo is a distant 3rd place....even Nintendo admits they are not trying to compete with M$ and Sony. Look, the reality is that in business sometimes it is very profitable for two major rivals to do a joint project, not because they love each other but simply because joining resources and making an excellent product that will sell to both fanbases has a high potential for success=$$$$$$$. Now before you fanboys start somekind of love-fest, just remember M$ and Sony will still be bitter rivals because, they both are still in the console business and will still be fighting for our $$$ for all the other games exclusive to 360 and PS3. The good news is that, as mentioned before.....there is room for 2 consoles in this business, hell there's room for 3 or more strong competitors, so Im hoping Nintendo will be better than what Im expecting, based on their own comments. Hey I really like the XBOX360, its awesome but it will remain #2 to the PS3 even if its as good or better than the PS3, because Sony has a huge brand recognition all over the world and it will hold that advantage for a long time, unless they completely make the PS3 a useless piece of crap, which is almost impossible. Think of it this way...How much do you think the 360 or the PS3 would cost if there were no competition? OMFG! The bottom line is.... M$ + competition with Sony = great games for 360 & PS3 M$ + Sony develop a few joint projects = an awesome cross platform game Then they both can go back to talking about how much better they are, and either way we the consumers win. EnforcerOfTheTruth 02.17.2006 20:26 Yo Ugly is back :-D it's so funny that he tries to play the noble knight after he hacked my account, posted under my and other peoples names LOL ...chillout Ugly...it's all good ;-D... #65 Yeah I know, this is really a sad story...but...you know...somebody has to do it...I can't help it...this is me...the world is brutal...you know...all I want is peace...but this barbaric xbugs don't let me live in peace...especially Ugly...I have to do what should be done...and this is...slaughter this species like there is no end...a true sad story...but I got no choice...to live is to suffer...no surrender...we can make it... PAUL CERULA 02.17.2006 21:32 Haha, Xbug don't feel bad the same thing happened to me. The guy did it and he was banned, same thing will happen to this person just start giving his number out of the fake and the administrator will know who needs to be banned. Umm Sony and MS games, why would they. They don't need to, there's no reason to develop a game with two companies separated by a 1/3 of the world. Not gonna happen Unregistered - Daniel 02.17.2006 22:18 If they work together they will be able to make the best games ever made. Unregistered - sony-is-the-way-to-go 02.17.2006 23:25 hey... can u get anymore inmature and childish? lol... and did u notice u was the first one to start a flame war, after eveyone's conversation was going great... and u 360 fans complain and complain about how us ps3 fans put u down all the time... well now u see why, because of childish imature ppl like #24 posting... and his name was....sony-is-sooooooo-g@y..... man I agree to that, because g@y stands for happy.... so it means sony-is-sooooo-happy... and were happy because we know we have the better conole! haha.. you little b!tch, get a life.... u need to grow up and act your age, unless your some 8 year old, which is what u sound like... go play your heatbox, and shoot at little alien creatures on your halo game b!tch Unregistered - Bhai 02.17.2006 23:57 Sony and MS together....... Even the thought of it makes me puke. The amateurish MS characters(master chief, hayabusa, kasumi) mixing up with the so refined and conceived Sony based characters(Dante, Kratos, Jak, Snake or Ico, Samanosuke Akechi)is like degrading the hell out of the latter. MS is way suitable to be picked up by Nintendo mascots...Mario and Kasumi, a love forever ! dcm 02.18.2006 02:03 i tell you what i was telling people about this on gamespot i told them i thought it was just all rumors and everything but everyone got mad at me saying things like im a noob i even told them that microsoft and sony wouldnt join. but i guess they dont understand common english but anyways this is getting on my nerves if it wasnt for theese rumors people wouldnt be angry with me right now. sony come on give us some real info. Unregistered - uc 02.18.2006 03:44 bad news i think its not good news sony want to challange to microsoft in gaming ...... what about all ? i like sony and i want ps3;) LEBANESE FREEDOM FIGHTER 02.18.2006 09:57 thats no fukn english get the hell outta here u peace of trash its like talking in some kinda of assshit language...man english is my fifth language and I do kick anybodys native english languages ass...ANY WAY to the guy who asked about my name actually yes i am proud of my nammmmme and ur so focking dumb if u cant find an attractive nick such mine... SEE YA IN HELL GUYS.....ANGELINA JOLIE ROCKS...NICOLE KIDMAN ROCKS Unregistered - richie007bond 02.18.2006 10:02 HYPESITE LMAO SAD SONY FANBOYS DaReaIXbugTerminator 02.18.2006 10:23 yeah to that fakeass poster tryna steel my name i tell yu get the fock off.. yes its u tryna steel my name xbug and im now back again to terminate u..peace of S*** get a fockin lifee man and stop irritating and annoying ugly... man 360 just taught me alot from this life..PS3 SUX BALLS FORSURE Unregistered - Lao 02.18.2006 12:36 Can you stop this we all know you've been using other peoples names and that your faking it's starting to get old. EnforcerOfTheTruth 02.18.2006 12:43 Hey lil pu$$y don't you have enough? Wanna so mo? Damn Ugly, to pimpslapp you and see how much energy you put to pay me back is the funniest thing I ever saw here. Whuz up, hard times hacking my new account now? Bwahahahahahaha you lil LEBANESE FREEDOM FIGHTER wannabe DaReaIXbugTerminator pu$$y, don't mess with the best or I will put you again to rest ;-) Unregistered - PS3 rulez 02.18.2006 14:08 I wonder what Ken Kutaragi has to say about this guy saying, they are gonna make games for Microshit, I dont beliece this news, I can only see that site and this one now, reporting this news, if you actualy look at the source, Tetsuhiko Yasuda is NOT quoted anywhere saying Sony may work with M$ on games. Who the hell is DigiTimes anyway, never heard of them. As for the poster who said their is no Cell chip, how did IBM create a Cell based blade server? how are developers makeing PS3 games? look at this http://www.theinquirer.net/images/articles/Cell_wafer2.jpg That is a 12" Cell wafer, No Cell chip? I see loads. Link: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27340 Unregistered - PS3 rulez 02.18.2006 14:22 According to news, which someone mentioned above, bVidia wont recieve royalties until the second quarter, this doesnt mean Sony are behind, Sony wont pay royalties until they start shipping PS3, so this news is wrong http://www.realmmedia.com/next_gen_ news/2006/02/nvidia_conference_call_confirms_playstation_3_is_late.html Unregistered - PS3 rulez 02.18.2006 15:02 Oh BTW this is the RSX chip: http://home.btconnect.com/hgi/ps3/ps3-rsxchips.jpg So as you can see, its more than just silicon, its a complete chip. Ugly American 02.18.2006 15:09 You are truly a stupid man, Xbux Terminator. Those guys aren't me. You have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to me. Really. Or I can just play the same game that you do: Hey, don't believe the Xbug Terminator. He hacked my account and has been trying to get people to believe I am an Xbug. And you wouldn't believe it. He didn't even register a name until I registered mine, and then he accused me of being someone else. I showed him. I put him in his place. I squashed that stupid son-of-a-bytch. He also said that I should die of a mixture of cancer, malaria, and AIDS. What kind of sick little boy IS he? Hold on, while I cut and paste something I have said a thousand times: You are truly a stupid man, Xbux Terminator. Those guys aren't me. You have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to me. Really. Good luck, retard. Landa 02.18.2006 16:12 How pathetic.... Xbug c´mon own him Unregistered - Me 02.18.2006 20:41 "Xbug" HA!!HA!!HA!!HA!!HA!! That was so funny!!!! Oh man you are so funny!!!!!!!! Did you come up with tha all by yourself? How clever!!! Dude you are an idiot! Grow up please. Unregistered - t 02.18.2006 20:59 that was to 82 Unregistered - billy 02.18.2006 21:51 Get him, Xbug! Do your thing! Talk nonsensical and act like an ass! That will show him! oh, wait. This is an anonymous forum. Who cares?! Unregistered - Xflopdead60 02.18.2006 22:28 I think what Sony meant was, X360 can't compete even if they made games for their system. Unregistered - Mathew 02.18.2006 22:29 Oh god! Finally, It's my dream that Microsoft and Sony will get to work together. Definetly they will be unstopable. Oh God! I wonder what their name will be..? I also wonder how their video game will look like and everything in their "new company" of Microsoft and Sony! ---KR3W--- Unregistered - bobman 02.18.2006 23:39 Wow. You sony fanboys are so stupid. Unregistered - mark 02.19.2006 02:20 i totally agree....sony wasnt being serious....they were just saying that the 360 is no competition...and that MS should really be a 3rd party developer.....they didnt actually come out and say that....but that is what was "between the lines".... Unregistered - Hmm 02.19.2006 10:16 Seems like more bad news for Europe. http://rsch1.ml.com/9093/24013/ds/276873_0.PDF Brunt of it: Seriously doubtful that we can expect PS3 in Europe this year. We've heard this before of course, but not with such substantial evidence. It seems the PS3 at the moment would take more than 900 dollars per console to make! ! ! Due to XDR memory, Cell chip and Blu-ray. Now THAT is too much loss per console, even for Sony. EnforcerOfTheTruth 02.19.2006 10:47 Ugly, the funniest thing is, you don't even notice how dumb you are. I wasn't the one who got pimpslapped and started personal insults. I wasn't the one who after it registered under the name I used and later hacked my account. You was even so dumb to admitt it, LOL you must have been really proud that you hacked my account, damn thats just too funny. You are so pathetic, you write "I'm not a fanboy" and then after few posts you log under my name and post some ridiculous xbugbull$hit. And later you proudly admitted that you hacked my account. Sheesh Ugly, how is it you are that dumb? Please enlighten me how can somebody be so pathetic. Then this thing with this wannabe "nazi". I'm on this site since 3-4months and never saw such things happen before. Ugly thinks I'm a German and it takes just a few days and some wannabe "nazi" with a broken google German visits this site. Hmmm who could that be, maybe this guy who is so desperate to hack my account? ;-) Even before this site got stormed by this wannabe pu$$y I knew you are planning some ugly $hit. I mean damn, you was very curious where I'm from, you asked me like 10 times about it. Ok LEBANESE FREEDOM FIGHTER pu$$y keep it up, you are better than any comedy show :-D Unregistered - mark 02.19.2006 13:57 nobody knows anything right now except sony....so dont make hasty judgements... Unregistered - PS3 rulez 02.19.2006 15:29 The thing is, Sony give new tech rather than put old tech in a system, look at what new tech Sony are offering, blu-ray, Cell and even RSX that no one knows about, its OK saying RSX is a PC equivelent, the thing is it isn't. BTW dont forget who created the progammable shader, yeah thats right, it was nVidia and all their latest PC cards waste the ATI cards. Dont you Xbots even mention X360 GPU being equivelent to R600, that is Bull sheet info, its not even FULLY DX10 or shader model 4.0. Guess what Xbots? the R500 GPU in your X360 running under directX10 will make games run slower LOL! check the news you dumb Xlop1.5 owners, it doesn't support previous cards without a software solution and guess what? its been said games will run slower under DX10, have fun with your slow ass games X360 owners. LOL! Unregistered - PS3 rulez 02.19.2006 15:57 How about this: X360 512MB of GDDR3 ram @ 700Mhz, thats graphics memory, not made for CPU usage, but hey, thats M$ for ya. PS3 has 256MB XDR Rambus Ram @ 3.2Ghz + 256 of GDDR3 ram @ 700Mhz, both these RAM types can also be shared, just like in X360, PS3 is a clear winner when it comes to RAM speeds. HDD? who wants to pay $100 for a 20gig HDD? when Sony offered a much better HDD for PS2. 40gig with pre-installed latest Final fantacy (worth half the HDD cost) + game demo's. You Xbugs are so owned, not just by me, but by Microshit too, open your eye's guys and gals, the X360 logo is hypnotising you, with its spinning green circles LOL. EnforcerOfTheTruth 02.19.2006 17:28 Damn right, these girls are so hypnotised that they even don't notice how bad Billyboy screws them. Unregistered - Ugly American 02.19.2006 18:07 This is my last post to you: I have never hacked your account. I am a helicopter pilot who plays video games. Not a hacker. Somebody changed one letter in your name. I pointed that out to you, and yet YOU are still stupid to figure it out. I have absolutely zero desire to even bother with you. Maybe it will sink in that you have pissed off MANY people, Sony and MS Fanboys alike. Wake up from the delusion that you are doing ANYBODY ANY GOOD by posting here. And let's DO go back to where you are from. Why? Because your english is horrible. You say you speak German and Spanish. You called me a c0cksucker in German, and then used one stupid ass Spanish sentence. You told me I should be able to figure out where you are from with your potty-mouth statements. Well, your German was better than your Spanish, thus I draw my conclusions. I am sorry there is a "nazi" idotic person on here. It isn't me. Regardless, you are idiotic euro-trash, and I am done with you. Done. Alexander 02.19.2006 18:09 Oh nooooo, i get sh*t and you get......well....well your waiting arnt you. And you arnt even sure what youll be getting yet, or the price. Things are still a bit shady arnt they? Oh and the latest duel cards from ATI actually rape nVidia's in every aspect, to the point that twice nVidia turned down comparison testing. I used to like nVidia - i have there card in both my comps - but now im feeling ATI, my friends got there chip set and they perform. Unregistered - garoda 02.19.2006 18:54 Sorry to say but nVidia are ahead this gen, I work for a computer company and we have done extensive tests with both the latest cards from both sides and nVidia wins, with almost flying colours. Just because X360 has unified shaders, doesb't mean its the best thing since sliced bread. 48 unified pixel pipelines which can be used more heavily toward vertex shading, or more heavily used toward pixel shading, means jack sh*t. X360 cannot beat PS3 on pixel shading, which is the same area where Xbox couldn't beat PS2 on the amount of pixels both machines produced, hence the rain effect in MGS2's hanger level, could NOT be redone to the same spec as PS2 as it didn't have the same amount of pixel rendering PS2 had. Vertices are only triangles, like a mesh or wireframe, pixels or more important than the number of triangles created. Unregistered - garoda 02.19.2006 19:55 "pixels or more important than the number of triangles created." Should have been: "pixels 'ARE' more important than the number of triangles created. Why does it take so long for devs to create, "NEXT GEN GAMES" on X360? I was under the inpression, XNA made game creation easier??? [Confused] from sources I know (yes I have been briefed on expected release dates/pricing and NO I am NOT letting slip anything on this) but I have seen early first gen games, well not real early, about a year or more in poduction, and they look like 'Killing Day' graphics, if anyone has seen that demo? There is some realy stunning stuff, but I am not going to say anymore, apart from...just wait for Sony to drop the BOMB! Unregistered - kolopy 02.19.2006 20:47 The Taipei Games Show is over and where is the mighty PS3?????? behind glass! haha that's fooking splendid, oh well there's always E3 :p have fun waiting a year for PS3 while i enjoy some great games THIS year on my 360. Unregistered - Xbugs on crack 02.19.2006 22:15 Do you actualy know PS history? PS playable 1 month before launch, PS2 playable ONE! month before launch, PS3 = playable ONE! month before launch, on actual hardware, not focking devkits like X360 that still didn't look better than Xbox games. Go play your xflop360, cos PS3 peeps on here dont give a fock about your xflop360, I take it your waiting for your xflop360 to cool down? thats why your on here right? Oh no...Your still waiting for Halo 3, damn how could I forget that? wont be long after when I can play the CR@P "over hyped" game on PC anyway, (I will get it FREE! from a mate at game.com) there are far more better FPS's on PC than on the xflop360. Gears of war looks like ass on X360, all enclosed spaces? WTF... if the graphics suck on that game when it finaly releases, I will LMFAO... LOL Have fun with all your PC ports, that I get to play before you with better controles K/M and I will kind of look forward to any Xflop360 ports to PC, but its obvious to anyone with a decent PC, that Xflop360 is a waste of money and the games suck big time. EnforcerOfTheTruth 02.19.2006 22:23 Nice try pu$$y, you didn't draw your conclusions, you asked me like 10 times where I'm from ;-) And please Ugly, with who you wanna play your games? Babyboy, you admitted it under your registered name ;-) Damn Ugly, you just too dumb, sorry :-( Unregistered - Xbugs on crack 02.19.2006 22:34 "on actual hardware, not focking devkits like X360 that still didn't look better" That should have been 2 applemac towers with dual applemac processors, cos that is what was running gameplay at E3, 4 processors vs 3 in X360 + double the graphic capability of xflop1.5 too, the games sucked ass. Unregistered - kolopy 02.19.2006 22:45 sony fanboys running scared, i cant wait to see all your faces when you finally see the REAL PS3 games LOL. here's how it is the gfx will be the same as "XFLOP 1.5" twice the price and a year later, too many devs have said this about the gfx it's not even funny anymore, how you chimps fight for every last piece of PS3 info, one thing PS3 has over 360 is the storage of BLU-RAY, but hell i dont mind swapping out discs once in a while, if it saves me ca$h im happy. FOOLS OBEY ME!!!!!!!!!!! :p Unregistered - Xbugs on crack 02.19.2006 22:56 Yea your kind of right there, first gen PS3 games will look like second gen Xflop360 games, seems your catching on now, at least someone understands. Unregistered - kolopy 02.19.2006 23:00 isnt that obvious? what with PS3 having more dev time for games. 1st gen PS3 games will look just as good 2nd gen 360 games plain and simple. Unregistered - Xbugs on crack 02.19.2006 23:13 Not to xbugs it isn't, they think the extra 6-12 months will give Xflop a graphical advantage LOL... what a focking joke Unregistered - The one 02.20.2006 04:51 Lets add some more fuel to the fire. As i stated in an earlier comment competition is an illusion. Sony buys windows OS from Microsoft for the vaio laptops because sony is one of Apples' competitors (or are they?). So sony is relying on the success of the windows OS and thus Microsoft. I hate to dissapoint you Microsoft bashers but the 360 will in no way, shape or form go away even IF the ps3 if more capable (which i doubt). As a matter of fact it wouldnt surprise me if the ps3 never launched. On the subject of aesthetics, the 360 looks like a sexy curvy compact pc. It is more symetrical than the ps3 (espacially when in vertical position)and more interesting than the revolution. in conclusion i'd like to say this: "LONG LIVE SONY AND DEATH TO PS3" (yes i said ps3) dcm 02.20.2006 12:54 sony and micro are both cool in there own ways but i like sony the ps2 might not have had the power xbox had but it had better games and much more supporters and dont forget the 100 million consoles sold. i think sony will still dominate i dont think microsoft can get that many consoles out. Unregistered - GuyOne 02.20.2006 19:42 that it's going down. they are getting ready to be powned..... Unregistered - Good guy 02.22.2006 10:56 playstation would never team up with xbox.why would playstation team up with a system that blows out.thats right,my xbox360 blew out.playstation all the way.COME OUT THIS SPRING! Unregistered - Jose luis Cleves 02.23.2006 10:37 if the ps3 wont come out on spring 2006 people may not buy the ps3 because some kids wont wait until 2007,and people may buy the ps3 so people will like the ps3 and buy it because not too many people has the xbox360. Add Comment |
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