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Sony Dead Serious About "PS3 Live"
01 Feb 2006 07:06 | Webmaster | Playstation 3
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According to several developers who have spoken to The Official Playstation Magazine, Sony is working on a unified online service much like Microsoft ‘s highly successful Xbox Live. The article claims that U.S. developers have received final PS3 development kits and they have already met with Sony in order to make their games compatible with the new online service.

“Sony is dead serious about it” a developer who wants to remain anonymous told PSM. “They’ve declared a ‘full assault’ on the latest version of Xbox Live. They are committed to matching Xbox Live feature for feature and then some”

If the PSM article is to be believed, not only will this new online service be forPS3 games, but also include PSP as well as other home entertainment activities. “Think one, big PlayStation network”.

Source: PSM





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1 - Wow, serious and bold stuff for Sony!
Unregistered - xboxjunky 02.01.2006 07:19
Wow, I guess Sony is really getting geared up to launch an all out entertainment network. They are so determine to offer the best level of excitement and enjoyment this time around until they have actually gotten serious about a unified online system which is going against their initial word of "no unified online network". If you are a sony fan, you have to be overwelmed by the fun that is yet to com. Now this thing is really boiling my grits to scrap my xbox for sony. Psyche!!, most likely will own both systems.

2 - It wuld surely sucks as hell
Unregistered - WASSUP 02.01.2006 07:24
yeah even if there would be a unified one on the ps3 it would suck as hell compared to XBOX LIVE, comon sony stop your BULLSHIT and stop copying our products ideas..wooohoooo long live xbox live..

3 - PS3 THE BIG HYPE MACHINE
Unregistered - hoehand 02.01.2006 07:47
Please i hope no-one belive this.When it comes to Sony youll have to wait and see they have always been big on hype some would even say they LIE.Xboxlive did what the pc couldnt even do and thats unify gamers acroos the country.Im stillwaiting to see what i can do with this piece of junk hard-dive i brought for me ps2

4 - from an xbox fan
Unregistered - jamo ward 02.01.2006 07:50
Hi Guys

this is some very good news for you lot. I hope they do got all out for a good live service and match that of the xbox live. if you have never played the xbox on live your realy going to enjoy the live features some fun and it adds that extra dimention to games. some times i spend more time on line than i do on the single player mode.

anyway hopefully this all go to plan cos i would love you sony fan to see just how good it is to play live from a console

jamo ward


5 - Converted
DaReaIXbugTerminator 02.01.2006 07:52
I know I've said a million and one times the PS3 is superior to the XBOX360, but recently I've done some studying on the 2 systems and it seems that the 360 is better than the PS3. Besides being technically superior in almost every way the 360 also has a far larger customer base than does the PS3 where it comes to LIVE and online play, and only a moron would argue that. Also, if you really take a good look at PS3 games and Xbox360 games, you'll see that the 360 is really nexgen compared to the PS3's boring titles, but instead every body should stop calling the 360 an Xbox 1.5 of sorts. As of this weekend I have preordered the 360 cause I am really sick of the crappy PC and PS2 graphics. And am patiently waiting for PS3 to flop. I'm strongly advising you, the PS3 is not really what you think it will be.

A good advice from a converted Sony fanboy to M$ lover and fanboy:
-Sony fanboys u should follow my step in being more open-minded coz I discovered that PS3 is overhyped and wont achieve the hype for the following reasons:

1-we Sony fanboys just will wait till the finally release real info about the ps3
and we're gonna be sooo fcuked off.

2-no hard drive (what's all that about???)

3-deep down you know the games won't look like those well executed cinematics from killzone and metal gear.

4-the cell will seriously underperforms(I remember when we were getting all excited about the frikkin Emotion Engine...! didn't Sony say that was gonna revolutionize the way we play games . And be the death knell for pc games? Oh how we(yes and I)Salivated about the E, E. and what was the end result ... nada, sh1t, diddely squat).

5-X360 is roughly 2x more powerful than PS3,its graphics chip is based on the R600 which isn't even out yet, its also got 3 cores as opposed to 1 on the PS3, 3= better than 1 right? I was dumb ass PS3 fan, I know 360 is going to win this next gen, so I made up stuff to make it sound better, I was a looser.

6-Bill Gates is much richer than Sony, and I discovered that he really cares a lot for us gamers as he
announced an optional HD-DVD drive that would be so damn great(I love you so much Mr. Bill Gates).

7-Halo 3, Yup this game would be the best thing on earth, and KillZone really sux balls.

8-I don't understand why so many people anticipate the ps3 to that degree. When Sony hasn't given any concrete ingame play demonstrations. Killzone and MGS4 is a hurdle Sony has made for themselves to try to meet by that time. I don't know when killzone is planned but if it is at ps3 launch than they won't meet that standard. They'll be slightly under and you'll say well its close enough. MGS4 is what 2009 or something.You've got to be kidding me when you say that those graphics are what to expect. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT... ALL WE HAVE IS SONY'S HYPE.

9-ATI rep. said that PS3 isn't refined.

10-XBOX360 got the LIVE service while I'm sick of Sony's fake online plans.

11-Blu-Ray costs alot,and Sony already losing exclusives to the 360 (Resident Evil 5, Final Fantasy, The Getaway, Soul Calibur, MK, VF5, GTA, Condemned, Dead or Alive was originally on the Sony platforms, and much much more).

12-Kojima confessed that the 360 is capable of doing much better stuff in MGS4 than the PS3 (we all Sony fanboys respect what this developer says and believe him).

13-All respected developers says that 360 is easier as hell to develop for than the PS3 which means most exclusives would be done on my new beloved console the 360, also notice that multiplatform games would be first developed for the 360 then ported to the PS3,, which means the same game would be more expensive on PS3.

Man I really can't believe how fool I really was being a Sony fanboy, this company do nothings more than lying on us, so I am sick and tired of them damn them, I don't want to wait for like 2 more years for an over-hyped console.. SO M$ U GOT A NEW FRESH FANBOY OF YOUR PRODUCTS ESPECIALLY THAT HOT 360...

YUP CAN'T WAIT!!! And PS3 fanboys just do what I have already done.


6 - stop the hype sony
DaReaIXbugTerminator 02.01.2006 07:56
yeah stop this my new 360 would only be awesome on xbox live..
AS USUAL SONY BUILDS THE HYPE...


7 - #2-#3
Unregistered - necrophagist 02.01.2006 08:01
you are ignorants and full of crap.and sorry but xbox live is not that great the best games for 360 so far suck balls online(doa4 and cod2)
nobody knows about sony 's online plans so shut up.


8 -
Unregistered - Chainblade 02.01.2006 08:08
Sweet! PS3 LIVE, in your face Bill!
Sony have had all time in the world making it good. But, even if it flops, you've still got 2teraflops left :P
lol


9 - Ha
Dmac 02.01.2006 08:10
Oh Boy, Look at all the xbots in here talking sh1t. Sounds like their getting a little bit scared. This is very good news for the PS3! Sounds like the Xbox360 might meet the same fate the dreamcast has.

10 - retard
Unregistered - fu2 02.01.2006 08:12
hey DaReaIXbugTerminator, what a groovy name you have (dork) anyways don't sit there and tell everyone what you have no idea about. ps3 hasn't even launched yet and already ur saying ur homo f@gBox is far superior. get over urself and ur loyalty to billy boy and just chill out for a few till the ps3 comes out, then if it "flops" like u think it will then u can come here and talk all the smack u want...not that anyone will be on here to read ur opinions. i think ur way off base though, ps3 will kick @$$ and f@gbox will have to settle for number two..hell even nintendo might knock them down to three, u never can tell.

11 -
Unregistered - sweet 02.01.2006 08:26
hey DaReaIXbugTerminator
Wasn't the Emotion Engine good?
Burnout Revenge, Black...Do you know anything about games at all?
2tflops vs 1tflop. I've said it a million times by now because I don't think that you can compare thoose systems by lookin at the spec. They are so different!
Just think about it. Would sony release a more expensive and weaker system one year later than the 360? Come on, get real!


12 - reply to 6
Unregistered - dragn avengr 02.01.2006 08:31
LOL,just said that u Xbox FANBOYZ, u don need to be soo FANBOY freak. give it to yourself. geez. i look both side of the console (ps3 n 360). i cant said that which one is better than other cos seen ps3 haven;t come out yet. 360 games i am really not into it, why cos most of the 360 game is on PC even some of them on PS2. for ps3 games i more into it why cos ps3 offer more game i like. for HALO game SHUT THE F@#$k up, it that all u can come up with 360game gimme r break.

i really do care most of the article. i just read for the hell of it. seen, well most of ppl comment here really funny a$$. it just keep busy for 1hr also.

will um looking forward to E3 seen what happen, hope sony finally ive out gameplay and ps3 date.

sorry for off topic.


13 - what was all that about #12
ZeroCool 02.01.2006 08:38
that whole post was so painfull to read.

are you 6 years old or just plain retarded

learn to string a few sentance's together then come back and post when people can understand what your saying. cos i havent got a clue what you've just been rabbating on about.



14 - oop..
Unregistered - dragn avengr 02.01.2006 08:41
sorry i mean comment 5.

15 - ...
Unregistered - dragn avengr 02.01.2006 08:42
LOL,,,

16 -
turkmen117 02.01.2006 08:46
cant all of you take knowledge of jamo ward? (number 4) he is a xbox 360 fan (doesnt have to mean he is a fanboy) and hopes the best for us because he thinks an unified online service is really funny. so all fanboys take him as an example when making posts.

yes the hype is building and people keep hoping for more and more, if they dont hold their promise they will lose alot of fans so why would they lie?

PS. whare is "BillGatesSucks" ? i always read his posts....


17 - Disinformation is a terrible thing...
Unregistered - Common Sense 02.01.2006 08:46
>>>1-we Sony fanboys just will wait till the finally release real info about the ps3
and we're gonna be sooo fcuked off.

That's not a reason, that's opinion, lol

>>>2-no hard drive (what's all that about???)

No HDD on the core X360's either. The Developers have to make things for the lowest common denominator, so what's your point exactly?

>>>3-deep down you know the games won't look like those well executed cinematics from killzone and metal gear.

Actually, I do. Because when they showed trailers for the MGS1 it didn't look anything like the original game... the game looked a lot better. WHen they showed the trailer for MGS2, everyone was wowed with the graphics... and the game itself looked better. MGS3? Same thing. Why would this change for the 4th game? Wishful thinking.

>>>4-the cell will seriously underperforms(I remember when we were getting all excited about the frikkin Emotion Engine...! didn't Sony say that was gonna revolutionize the way we play games . And be the death knell for pc games? Oh how we(yes and I)Salivated about the E, E. and what was the end result ... nada, sh1t, diddely squat).

Difference being, the EE isn't being used in other designs, ranging from cellphones to servers.

>>>5-X360 is roughly 2x more powerful than PS3,its graphics chip is based on the R600 which isn't even out yet, its also got 3 cores as opposed to 1 on the PS3, 3= better than 1 right? I was dumb ass PS3 fan, I know 360 is going to win this next gen, so I made up stuff to make it sound better, I was a looser.

You really need to bone-up. The Xenos processor is the R500, which is basically a proprietary design. By the "3 is better than one" argument, that would mean cell is better than the ppc in the 360, 3 vs 8? There's much much much more to the argument.

>>>6-Bill Gates is much richer than Sony, and I discovered that he really cares a lot for us gamers as he
announced an optional HD-DVD drive that would be so damn great(I love you so much Mr. Bill Gates).

Bzzzt, wrong. The only reason Bill Gates even is selling the X-Box is because consoles are nipping at the heels of a general usage PC. Think about it, most people use a PC for word processing, web surfing, and games. Only a small percentage have high-performance overclocked gaming rigs. What with Windows Vista on the Horizon, and the possibility that many people will drop the Windows (you think the sony DRM rootkit was bad? this is worse). Until now, nobody could offer a decent alternative, that is, until PS3 HDD's start shipping with Linux. Guess what people might see as an alternative for Windows after buying a PS3? Do you know how much MS profits would slump?

>>>7-Halo 3, Yup this game would be the best thing on earth, and KillZone really sux balls.

So you're basing your entire argument on a single FPS (and a rather lackluster series at that). I mean, sure, it was great on the XBox, but as someone who has played FPS's on the PC since DOOM... it was too formulaic and cookie-cutter. That being said, the current Killzone games are a lot more innovative than Halo ever was, and I'm certainly looking forward to the game.

>>>8-I don't understand why so many people anticipate the ps3 to that degree. When Sony hasn't given any concrete ingame play demonstrations. Killzone and MGS4 is a hurdle Sony has made for themselves to try to meet by that time. I don't know when killzone is planned but if it is at ps3 launch than they won't meet that standard. They'll be slightly under and you'll say well its close enough. MGS4 is what 2009 or something.You've got to be kidding me when you say that those graphics are what to expect. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT... ALL WE HAVE IS SONY'S HYPE.

You're forgetting about Unreal Tournament 2007. The game which has next-gen graphics, and looks just as good as the current versions running on $3000+ gaming rigs. The game that PSM sat down and actually played, completely unoptimized at 49FPS. Lets just skip over that...

>>>9-ATI rep. said that PS3 isn't refined.

Actually, he said the RSX gpu was unrefined... I'm still wondering how he even got a hold of an RSX, LOL.

>>>10-XBOX360 got the LIVE service while I'm sick of Sony's fake online plans.

See recent PSM story.

>>>11-Blu-Ray costs alot,and Sony already losing exclusives to the 360 (Resident Evil 5, Final Fantasy, The Getaway, Soul Calibur, MK, VF5, GTA, Condemned, Dead or Alive was originally on the Sony platforms, and much much more).

Errrrm, that's a bit of a twist. RE5 was always multiplatform, Final Fantasy is still pretty much Sony Exclusive, sans XI, which the 360 apparently gets (and its not exactly the best game at this point).

>>>12-Kojima confessed that the 360 is capable of doing much better stuff in MGS4 than the PS3 (we all Sony fanboys respect what this developer says and believe him).

Have a quote? Because I seem to remember him saying that he could make MGS4 for 360. That's quite different from saying the 360 is much better... You're not just pulling this stuff out of thin air are you?

>>>13-All respected developers says that 360 is easier as hell to develop for than the PS3 which means most exclusives would be done on my new beloved console the 360, also notice that multiplatform games would be first developed for the 360 then ported to the PS3,, which means the same game would be more expensive on PS3.

Care to name the developers which have said the 360 is easier to develop for? Also, its not entirely true, especially since Sony has the biggest userbase, and consequently could make a developer more money.

>>>Man I really can't believe how fool I really was being a Sony fanboy, this company do nothings more than lying on us, so I am sick and tired of them damn them, I don't want to wait for like 2 more years for an over-hyped console.. SO M$ U GOT A NEW FRESH FANBOY OF YOUR PRODUCTS ESPECIALLY THAT HOT 360...

Congrats, you went from a Sony fanboy to a MS fanboy. You're still a fanboy, ROFL.


18 - 360 n ps3
Unregistered - lardface 02.01.2006 08:48
someone mentioned da 360 is better than da ps3 in everyway after doin some research. Like where was he looking? That is impossible. Was he being sarcastic cause please god tell me that he is.

Microsoft can't perfect Windows let along xbox. Windows has an excuse as they are a monopoly but the first xbox was such a flop. As for more sales on a 360 there was virtually none in Japan.

We will wait and see when the ps3 is released which is better oh n by they way. Who cares which is better. Buy and waste your money on game consoles. People who take it too seriously are geeks and low lives with nothing better to do and no social life. Your supposed to buy it for fun. Who cares which one is better. If you want your money worth though you test out the consoles when they are released and see which one you like better.


19 - PS3 + PSP + ONLINE = AWESOME
Unregistered - Xbox sux coX 02.01.2006 08:50
Sony's online service will definatly be a good thing for PS3, imagine the possbilities with the PSP and PS3 online connection... should be awesome!!
Sony will definatly add tons of features to this online service, can't wait to hear more about it. Xbox360(xbox 1.5) cant compete with Sony now.

Some people are Cool... Some people are Ghey'

Some people like Sex... Some people like Crack

Some people are Smart... Some people are Stupid

Some people like PS3... Some people like Xbox 360


Dont be an XBOY!!



20 - F-cking retarded Xbots
Dark Samurai 02.01.2006 09:02
Just look at the Xbox site and you don't see even one Sony fan there. It's like a deserted area. You know why? Because no one gives a damn about Xflop 1.5, everyone is waiting for the Playstation 3 and the real next generation. These retards continue to come here and post their worthless crap even before Sony fans. this alone shows how much they're afraid. Xflop is soooooooo good that you have to beg people : please buy it, i swear to god that it's better than PS3!!! LOL!!
Face it cry babies, Billy is going to get screwed again badly!!!


21 - Hold up guys...
Unregistered - Fito 02.01.2006 09:09
Alright, maybe you didn't catch that guys drift, but I think that he was being sarcastic. Either that or he just is that dumb. Either way, both consoles are going to have their strengths and weaknesses so just stop griping about which ones going to be better.

22 - poor Xbots
Dark Samurai 02.01.2006 09:11
And they seem to have lost their Ace Card: online service. Though I'm against a unified service but I'm sure that PS3 Live will own that Crappy Xbot Live.
SONY FOREVER!!!!!!!!!


23 - STILL WAITING ON SONY PROMISES!!!!
Unregistered - QuietMan69 02.01.2006 09:12
"...the most significant aspect of the PS2 might be its ability to hook into the Internet, making it a "Trojan horse" to bring online gaming, e-commerce, Web browsing, e-mail and downloading of music, software and video into the home. In 2001, Sony will sell a combination high-speed Internet connector and hard-disk drive that is geared solely for high-speed connections. Previous attempts to merge the Net with game consoles have flopped, but Sony thinks it can buck the trend. "You can communicate to a new cybercity," gushes Ken Kutaragi, the visionary behind the PlayStation. "This will be the ideal home server. Did you see the movie 'The Matrix'? Same interface. Same concept. Starting from next year, you can jack into The Matrix!"

I'm still waiting


Wow who knew he ment 2007, "I'm all set to Jack-in" (LMAO)
Cannot see how this guy gets away with this crap!! Huge Promises and under deviver each time....

Xbob live for me is this Halo2 (sniping games with my european mates, team slayer with my friends ia CA, all with out any lag) can't beat that


24 -
turkmen117 02.01.2006 09:29
but now they have to cempete with xbox 360, not with the dreamcast lol

25 - Funny
Maahes 02.01.2006 09:42
I hear my fellow Sony fans always say "HA! look at all the Xbots in here" I'm begining to think it's because their arne't many of us sony fans left. :(

26 - Ur a nut case
Unregistered - Sevir 02.01.2006 10:32
ok first off u can clearly see that u have fallen of a cliff somewhere... for u to just blaspheme sony like that... no facts what so ever.... really the Xflop isn't even worth the time... all it has online... like what every devoloper out there has been saying... because it is the only console that has unified games on one net work... thats really all it has going for it... every devoloper out there say that the ps3 has more horse the the xflop... 2 twice as much... and Note kojima-san said the xflop can handle MGS4 not more powerfull and if ur saying that as ur defence...practically all games the original xbox did both the ps2 and GC handled so what kojima-san was saying aint much... and xflop getting more key devolopers on there side, shoot... they need it. because aparently all they had was
FPS most of which sucked anyway... they realized that if they were to even have the slightest chance of staying in at least second place, they'd have to get japanese developers... so they got Final fantasy XI..... wow..... big deal as far as thats concern Square never justified that they'd make that franchise multiplatform.... so if u thing thats FFXIII and up will come to the 360 i highly doubt it... all this means is that u guys got a port from a PS2 and pc game that came years ago... i mean why in the hell did it take u guys soo long to realize that u need jap developers and even now that u have them ur not doing to well there... as a matter of fact Xflop totally undersold the firsst Xbox... hm... and u say ur better... too bad the world doesn't agree with u... u can keep DOA beacause that game sucks @$$... characters and graphics look like they did on the current gen... pitty full.... u guys really only have one game carrying the system and u urself knows it... Halo! ok .... anything else? nope... lets see... PS family.....hm... GTA, FF, DMC, DQ (dragon quest, GT, Killzone, Tekken, soul calibur, Castlevainia, SF, and ofcourse ONE of the best of all times.... MGS.... enough said really one title... there's so much variety... do u know what kind of idiot u sound like... even to MS... they them self said that even if they launch halo on the day the ps3 drops sony would have a strong launch... now if sony drop a FF or MGS, or even GTA and GT, there would be a different story really... but really it makes no sence talkin to XBox Lovers u can only expect this level of foolishness from them... get over ur self dude the ps3 wont flop... fan base is way too large..... i can even gaurantee that people like u will even deside to return ur 360 for a ps3 after u've been blown out ur socks from E3 this year... and then Nintendo who i feel will come about with the rev and take second place, hm... but anywho thats not what this article is about... it's about the ps3's unified online service... this would really heat things up and make this an at ur neck kinda show with sony and micro soft... xbox live may have a large amount of people on live... but with the ps3 having this much fan base it's almost a given that they'll take to online world like none other... this is even better for them because they're portable product also gets in on this sony makes profit, alot of profit and we get happy because it it's benifiting us as well.... if this is carried out well and to the point then Sony will have the crown ... the rest of the competitors will have to settle down under neath again... this is great news really ... i just cant wait till Dev confrence in march comes about or even the press confrence in Feb to happen ... perhaps now is when we can get our stockings filled with the ps3 goodies... ^^ oh and to commentor #6 quit being ignorant... even microsoft knows what the ps3 is capable of.... and for everyones recolection... the first in game demos where shown at TGS-05 with Sonic the hedge hog and FPS-Fifth Phantom Saga.. both of which were by sega and was running on actual PS3 hardware in realtime Just like the awesome MGS trailer and the DMC trailer... which i was there to witness... and oh yeah there's another demo on ign called Prject offset and it's for PS3... anywho i'm excited about the unified aproach to online that Sony is taking and this should prove quite benificial to everyone including sony


27 - to commentor # 5 ur a nut case
Unregistered - Sevir 02.01.2006 10:34
ok first off u can clearly see that u have fallen of a cliff somewhere... for u to just blaspheme sony like that... no facts what so ever.... really the Xflop isn't even worth the time... all it has online... like what every devoloper out there has been saying... because it is the only console that has unified games on one net work... thats really all it has going for it... every devoloper out there say that the ps3 has more horse the the xflop... 2 twice as much... and Note kojima-san said the xflop can handle MGS4 not more powerfull and if ur saying that as ur defence...practically all games the original xbox did both the ps2 and GC handled so what kojima-san was saying aint much... and xflop getting more key devolopers on there side, shoot... they need it. because aparently all they had was
FPS most of which sucked anyway... they realized that if they were to even have the slightest chance of staying in at least second place, they'd have to get japanese developers... so they got Final fantasy XI..... wow..... big deal as far as thats concern Square never justified that they'd make that franchise multiplatform.... so if u thing thats FFXIII and up will come to the 360 i highly doubt it... all this means is that u guys got a port from a PS2 and pc game that came years ago... i mean why in the hell did it take u guys soo long to realize that u need jap developers and even now that u have them ur not doing to well there... as a matter of fact Xflop totally undersold the firsst Xbox... hm... and u say ur better... too bad the world doesn't agree with u... u can keep DOA beacause that game sucks @$$... characters and graphics look like they did on the current gen... pitty full.... u guys really only have one game carrying the system and u urself knows it... Halo! ok .... anything else? nope... lets see... PS family.....hm... GTA, FF, DMC, DQ (dragon quest, GT, Killzone, Tekken, soul calibur, Castlevainia, SF, and ofcourse ONE of the best of all times.... MGS.... enough said really one title... there's so much variety... do u know what kind of idiot u sound like... even to MS... they them self said that even if they launch halo on the day the ps3 drops sony would have a strong launch... now if sony drop a FF or MGS, or even GTA and GT, there would be a different story really... but really it makes no sence talkin to XBox Lovers u can only expect this level of foolishness from them... get over ur self dude the ps3 wont flop... fan base is way too large..... i can even gaurantee that people like u will even deside to return ur 360 for a ps3 after u've been blown out ur socks from E3 this year... and then Nintendo who i feel will come about with the rev and take second place, hm... but anywho thats not what this article is about... it's about the ps3's unified online service... this would really heat things up and make this an at ur neck kinda show with sony and micro soft... xbox live may have a large amount of people on live... but with the ps3 having this much fan base it's almost a given that they'll take to online world like none other... this is even better for them because they're portable product also gets in on this sony makes profit, alot of profit and we get happy because it it's benifiting us as well.... if this is carried out well and to the point then Sony will have the crown ... the rest of the competitors will have to settle down under neath again... this is great news really ... i just cant wait till Dev confrence in march comes about or even the press confrence in Feb to happen ... perhaps now is when we can get our stockings filled with the ps3 goodies... ^^ oh and to commentor #6 quit being ignorant... even microsoft knows what the ps3 is capable of.... and for everyones recolection... the first in game demos where shown at TGS-05 with Sonic the hedge hog and FPS-Fifth Phantom Saga.. both of which were by sega and was running on actual PS3 hardware in realtime Just like the awesome MGS trailer and the DMC trailer... which i was there to witness... and oh yeah there's another demo on ign called Prject offset and it's for PS3... anywho i'm excited about the unified aproach to online that Sony is taking and this should prove quite benificial to everyone including sony


28 -
bloop 02.01.2006 10:39
Theres a lot more Sony fans than there is MS fans, believe me. And sales figures prove it with PS2 outselling xbox 5-1. As for DaRealXbugterminator, are you for real or taking the p!ss?? Yesterday you were "terminating" xbugs and today youre all pro xbox!!!?!?! No one has a change of heart to that level of extremes overnight.

29 - darn it double postage: still replying to u comment # 5 and 6
Unregistered - Sevir 02.01.2006 10:40
LOL!!! darn i posted it twice... my bad well, i figured i had to say it twice so u can understand... Microsoft loves it's gamers yea right .. if they did they would have had more 360s out to greet everyone and they would have had no faults... figure u have all that money and u for get to go through beta test before u launch a "nextGen" console.... now ur spending months later sending patch downloads to people so they can fix the bugs u overlooked because u had to rush out before sony... nice really nice... i'm out

30 -
RavenSlayer 117 02.01.2006 10:51
The only reason that DaRealXbugterminator switched sides is because he saw the light of the 360. HAHA but who cares you ps3 fans have your ps3, and us 360 fans have our 360. As for online service i think that it would rock for ps3 and 360 fans to play each other. And most of you know that it would be fun. Really don't know much about Sony's online service nor do i care my 360 rocks and until the ps3 comes out at least i can play a next gen. As for online on my 360 i really don't have the time to set it up so that sucks maybe on the weekend sometime.

P.S.
DaRealXbugterminator now that your a fan of the 360 i'll gladly fight by your side on Halo..... HALO 3 RULES!!!


31 -
Unregistered - Mal Reynolds 02.01.2006 10:59
Ok, lets take an unbiased opinion on this whole matter.

So the Xbox has Xbox Live, and now the PS3 is getting a similar service. Who cares! Who cares if I can use the same user tag for all of my games, and have some database keep track of all my win-loss records in different games. This is stupid. Xbox Live is nothing to get crazy over (I know because I've used it before), and I'm sure the PS3 Live equivilent will be the same way. If Xbox Live is the 360's main selling point...they've got issues.

I own both a PS2 and original Xbox, and both are nice. However, I will say that this time around I am definately more excited for the PS3. I don't know if it is Sony's marketing, or if the PS3 just looks like it has more appealing games.

As a side note to over half the people posting on this website...TAKE A FREAKING ENGLISH CLASS. YOU ALL SOUND LIKE A BUNCH OF DAMN MORONS. IF I HEARD ANY OF YOU TALKING THE WAY YOU TYPE...I'D HAVE YOU COMMITED TO AN INSANE ASSYLUM (that is if president Reagan hadn't closed most of them down back in the 80's).

And another side note, how can you talk crap about something that hasn't even come out yet. That would be like everyone talking crap about hover cars. Oh man, hover cars are so inferior to regular cars...how stupid does that sound? Nobody knows what the PS3 is going to deliver exactly, so how can you be so sure that it is going to suck? We know that the Xbox 360 is so-so because it is already out in stores, nobody has even played a PS3 or Revolution, so nobody can say if they are amazing, or pieces of crap.


32 - DaReaIXbugTerminator vs DaReaIXbugTerminator
Scythe 02.01.2006 11:14
Someone has been doing some hacking into others accounts....

33 - I like it
Unregistered - ScoobyDoo 02.01.2006 11:22
As an XBox fanboy, I thoroughly welcome it.
After seeing how well MS has done with Live with no competition, PSLive (please come up with something original as a name) will only serve to push the experience to new levels. Imagine, Microsoft and Sony both trying to get our attention for the online experience. We should see some really compelling content in the next couple of years.
If nothing else, it ups the ante for Microsoft. Both can survive in this environment and we can all win.
I can't undertand the 'loyalty' to one platform or the other. Whichever gives me what I want, today, gets my money. So far, XBox has been the leader, if PS3 can leapfrog them, I'll own both.


34 - -- Deleted by Mod --
ZeroCool 02.01.2006 11:30
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35 - careful...
Unregistered - p!ssoffanddie 02.01.2006 11:43
ewww u better be careful zeroFOOL, ur mom might walk in and ground u for two more weeks using that language

36 - PS3 "LIVE" inevitable
Unregistered - Akakage 02.01.2006 11:51
this past-generation Sony experienced a little (very little) success with their online game(s)..Socom, EA sports titles, ATV off road fury and Killzone (mostly Socom) while Msoft overwhelming success with their xbox live. It was monitored, regulated and optimized offering the best online game experience on a console. With over 2 million xbox live subscribers, msoft had to be doing something right. Its to be expected that sony is going to try create an online service that could (potentially rival) xbox live. Some of the things they have been talking about such as online storage/memory is pretty cool..I'm not sure how well it will work..but cool. It is ridiculous to believe that this service will be free. If they want to put out something that will rival, if not surpass xbox live its gonna cost alot of money for them to do so. And of course more cost to them means more cost to us as consumers. I wouldn't be surprised if they charge 39.99 a year for a subscription..but then have other fees in place to make up the difference. There is gonna be a fee for online storage and they'll probably do streaming movies (Msoft has hinted at this too). It will be interesting to see what plans sony has when they officially announce this and explain it in detail. But this isn't necessarily new news..as we all kind of knew this was gonna happen.

37 - PS3
Havoc 02.01.2006 12:06
Now the only thing xbox fanboys can brag about is Halo 3 wich is really the only reason I will get a 36o. This is very good news for Sony, it shows that they ready to challenge xbox live and make it even better.

38 - -- Deleted by Mod --
Unregistered - p!ssofanddie 02.01.2006 12:18
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39 - MS or Sony
Unregistered - Jason 02.01.2006 12:19
Its really kind of funny seeing you all fight over this. Personally I'm an xbox guy but I don't doubt Sony's new system. From a tech stand point both systems are light years from there predecessor and are capable of down right amazing graphics but I do believe the 360 has the edge and not because I prefer xbox over playstation but because the 360 was made with more general purpose processing power where as the PS3 has more custom power which is harder to tap. Most game makers want ease as apposed to having to write there game to send certain instructions to certain areas of the processor which the PS3 makes you do. As for online… I hope Sony does make this happen as it will benefit us all to have competition however Sony will not blow MS out of the water for main reason... Experience! Microsoft is an online company and has the know-how and the systems to back it up. Sony hasn't really gone into online gaming before where you have a paying customer base that expects it to work right all the time. Sony will have an uphill challenge to meet MS on a level playing field but with time I believe Sony could do it if they listen to the customer and not over promise which Sony has a habit of doing though to be fair MS has a habit of making software that doesn't work correctly and has to be patched 500 times and then still doesn't work right. All in all, both systems are cool as hell and will change the video game industry.

40 - Whats the reasoning?
Alexander 02.01.2006 12:24
Someone said earlier that xbox 360 forums are empty, what ones do you go on and surely the fact your going there means there not empty and disallowes you to moan at xbox 'fanboys' coming here?

I have seen alot of ps3 fanboys on 360 sites, they usually sign up (from the launch to about now) and moan that there xbox 360 doesnt work, has burnt there house down etc. Its so obvious, why would you bother signing up on a forum just tocomplain about your console? Best thing is if you ask for a pictureof their setup they never reply or send fake ones.

Im guessing that all the fanboys here come here to see if theres any new news, thats what I do anyway, I wanna seeif theres anything interesting going on.


41 - Long Comments!!!
Unregistered - namelex 02.01.2006 12:41
People, please stop writing long comments, no wants wants to hear your life story just a short opinion on the topic.
The next time u decide to write long comments, consider signin up for a blog account. it only takes 5 mins.
As far as the topic goes, Sony better offer their live service for free, its bad the games and console will be overpriced, let alone pay for monthly subscription.!!!!!


42 - STFU YOU XBOX BELL ENDS
akakage 02.01.2006 12:49
I DONT WANT ANY MOFO COMING HERE TO TALK NICE. IF YOUR NOT GOING TO FLAME EVERYONE THAT DONT BOTHER FU@KING POSTING YOU HOMO FAGS

43 -
Unregistered - Jason 02.01.2006 12:49
If they do it for free.. that would be stupid. You can't run an xbox live type service for nothing because it costs money and then Sony would lose money. Free isn't always better cause when it breakes and its free you can't call and bit#h.

44 - Were too Busy!!
Unregistered - mutt 02.01.2006 12:58

360 forums are empty because we are all busy playing our consoles, PS3 forums are full because you are all waiting for yours to arrive. I own a 360, and will own a PS3 and probably get the revolution last. The dual screens for the PS3 sold me. But really guys come on, you know why 360's aren't in the forums: Were actually playing these games, not watching reruns of a killzone trailer.

O.K. I am guilty of watching reruns of that Motorstorm trailer, can't wait.


45 - haha
Unregistered - hoosiredaddy 02.01.2006 13:01
"WERE DEAD SERIOUS" lol thats funny, but i hope that they do end up somewhat making a challenge with MS in the online area but i dont think they will beat them though

46 -
Unregistered - wotter 02.01.2006 13:25
They don't have to beat live, they just have to get a system up and running that is decent and has the most important stuff, like a buddy list. Did they say anything about beating? Btw, they started this when the ps2 network adapter came out, so telling me that nothing will come is stupid.

47 - Da4Real VS DaReal
Ugly American 02.01.2006 13:26
I posted this on the other thread, but here we go again:
DaRealXbugTerminator is a created account that is one letter different from Da4RealXbug Terminator.

Just like it looks ZeroCool registered Akakage's name.

Madness shall ensue. It is ridiculous you guys didn't figure that out sooner.


48 -
Unregistered - ZeroCool 02.01.2006 13:55
For all you XcrapOnIt1.5 A holes that think Sony won't deliver think
again.You have lost the WAR before it even began you just haven't
realized it but you will soon enough. When the true next Gen console
comes out THE KING OF FU@KING M.T EVERST you guessd it PS3.


PS. Ugly American 02.01.2006 13:26
I posted this on the other thread, but here we go again:
DaRealXbugTerminator is a created account that is one letter different from Da4RealXbug Terminator.

Just like it looks ZeroCool registered Akakage's name.

HEY UGLY IM NOT A XBUG SH!T FACE AND IM NOT REGISTERD UNDER
ANYBODYS NAME IM NOT REGISTERD AT ALL AS YOU CAN SEE DUMB AS$$$
SO STFU AND GET OF MY BACK.




49 - copycats
Unregistered - ps3 sucks balls 02.01.2006 14:00
they can't make up their own ideas so they steal the xbox's amazing online. Ps2 was absolutely horrible online 3 probably wont be much better.

50 - ???????
Unregistered - 48 02.01.2006 14:02
YOU IDIOT! Xbox was SOOOO much better than ps2, go hang yourself fatass

51 - To # 47
Someone 02.01.2006 14:07
The real DaReaIXbugTerminator is called DaReal4RealXbugTerminator, some f****** Xgug is impersonating him, I hope DaReaI4realXbugTerminator pust this guy straight God damn Xbugs, I knew soon as I saw the fake poster it wasnt DaReaI4realXbugTerminator, saying those things, get a life Xbugs.

52 - !
Dmac 02.01.2006 14:17
All this good news about PS3 sure hurts xbots Feelings! Hurts to spend $400 on a half full box of crap, doesn't it?

53 - sorry xbugs
Unregistered - code_x 02.01.2006 14:30
The PS3 is more powerful in every aspect related to games. Most every developer agrees. The PS3 has a better CPU, more powerful GPU, 3x faster main system Ram, 2.5x the L2 cache of the 360, and the entire board uses a better bussing architecture. Let's not forget Blu-ray will end load times...screw you X-bugs I'm going home!

54 - To # 50
Someone 02.01.2006 14:33
The Xbox isnt even 80000 times more powerfull than PS1, never mind PS2, your dreaming Xbug.

55 - I know the truth
Unregistered - Ultimate Gamer 02.01.2006 14:37
The truth is............PS3 will OWN the 3sh**sy! Idiot X Box fans! They're so scared that they have to try to post doubts abut the PS3. As for Halo........part 2 sucked! I'd rather stick to Halo online for PC. X Box 360 is pretty much screwed up Halos. U get SCREWED TOO much. Too many modders that THINK they're good. Sony's PS3 will win the console war. FACT! and I'm a PC gamer! I am going to get the PS3! If i get an x box 360 I'll just sell it and won't even bother opening it! OWNED! Play Station 3 is the superior system! Not my fualt you X Box 360 fan boys are upset because the PS2 ALONE sold more than the 360 in just the holidays ALONE! As well as the PSP ALONE!So basically you can say X Box 360 can stay with PS2! LOL! X Box 360 is not even gonna be in the CATEGORY when PS3 releases. PS3's release= Microsoft's Doom's Day. Get ready to CRY X Box 360 fans!

56 - PS3 Online
BillGatesSucks 02.01.2006 14:39
First off I'd like to say kudos to Jamo Ward #4 for his comments. If MS got one thing right with the xbox, it was the live service and Sony now realizes that and is apparently attempting to correct it. I'm not bad mouthing the PS2's online services, I've read a lot of comments here from users who like it just fine, but I think anyone would agree that a unified online service is the better way to go, not only for the gamer but also for Sony (who will now benefit from a more direct control over the entire experience, not to mention make more money from it). There are 10 million online gamers playing SOCOM and 2 million xbl subscribers. Do the math real quick and that means roughly 10% of PS2 and 10% of xbox owners are online (maybe a bit more for PS2 considering SOCOM isn't the only online capable game). 10% isn't much but considering these are the first consoles with any real type of online capabilities, it's not bad. And if you look at the numbers of online gamers on PC over the years, I'm sure the numbers have only been increasing each year. My point is, the number of console gamers are also going to increase, so Sony really has no choice but to have a better online strategy for the PS3 than that of the PS2. I can understand why this news would be so inflammatory; if there was one point xbox fans hammered on over and over it was that of the xbl service. Now that it appears that Sony will be adressing the issue, it seems like the 360 will have no advantages at all over the PS3. I posted this link in a previous thread but I'll post it here as well as the topic is appropriate.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/01/31/sony-declares-full-on-assault-on-xbox-live/


57 - Hey
Unregistered - Ultimate X Box 360 Fan 02.01.2006 14:46
I agree with Ultimate Gamer. (Even though I'm an X Box 360 fan....) The PS3 will OWN! I've seen what 360s does. And alot of 360s in Best Buy stores are messed up. LOL!! I will wait for the ultimate system The PS3! The PS3 Live will OWN the gaming WORLD!! PS3's release will cause Bill Gates to have a heart attack! LOL!

58 - DONT BE MAD
Unregistered - d 02.01.2006 14:48
every1 in here is just mad at ms because they didnt get their 360 face it. youll get 1 so stop hating. you know you were like "oh yeah xbox 360 i got 1 reserved" then they came out with a shotage and eb called u and said sorry your not getting one right now so now you are all pissed off at the world. dont be mad because im playin next gen while your on the ps2 still
later phuckers


59 - To BillGatesSucks
Someone 02.01.2006 14:52
A unified online service which is free, will be better, where instead of chargeing for the service they make money on the content you download, i.e games, movies and music. The web browsing will be great and I will be able to use my current PC mouse/ketboard, just like I could on PS2, so no need to buy another KB/Mouse. I also like the idea of being able to access PS3 anywhere with PSP, because as far as I know, PS3 will be able to record TV programs, so say I forget to set, the PS3 for a program I want to watch, while out at a freinds, I can just pull out my PSP and set it to record the program from their.

BTW I dont yet have a PSP, but certainly thinking about getting one this year sometime. This is all exciting stuff, cant wait for PS3.


60 - cant we get along
Unregistered - 42o 02.01.2006 14:53
Wouldnt it be nice if the 360 and ps3 could live in perfect harmony in the same universe. I mean, its like a gang war. Cant we all just hit a bong and game in peace?

61 - To Someone #59
BillGatesSucks 02.01.2006 15:02
Set your PS3 from your friend's house using your PSP, how cool is that? I agree a free unified service of course would be much better, but that might mean banners and pop ups everywhere. I suppose they could run ads in demos and movie downloads, kind of like trailers at a movie theatre. I've been hearing for a couple years now of developers running ads in game online. So, say there was a GTA online game for the PS3, there could be a situation where you're driving around and see a billboard for Coca Cola because Coke has paid to have it there. The possibilities are huge, from the clothes the character would be wearing to the restaurants he'd eat at, they could all have product placement.

62 - #58
bloop 02.01.2006 15:04
But thats the problem really. Its just not really next gen. I was going to buy a 360 but when i saw it Ill have to say i wasnt that impressed. Its more like a top end pc than next gen. And if I did want one, I could easily just go into town and pick one up off the shelves cause there aint no shortage where Im living, they practically cant get rid of them. I'll wait for PS3 when the real next gen starts.

63 - To # 60
Someone 02.01.2006 15:09
I don't see why we cant get along, but the thing is, not everyone has the same feelings as you, most most if not all Xbox followers like to flame this forum, instead of being civilized and talk about the games and not bash every article that comes up. You seem reasonable though, are you looking forward to PS3? do you have the X360? if so what games have you got and are enjoying at the moment?

Peace


64 - To BillGatesSucks
Someone 02.01.2006 15:24
Yea ads in games would work, especialy now the graphic bar has been raised in games, although that would only support the developer of the game more, to cover their expence's, thats why I say, makeing money on full game downloads, full movies and full music albums through PS3 and makeing money back that way, the same way they do with the reatail version. Say the retail store version is $60 and you pay the same for the download version, Sony will make money, because you dont get the extra cost of the packageing, which is where sony makes money for the online version of the game. Anyway, we'll see soon enough what happens and if it is free I hope we dont get banner ads and popups, that would be awfull.

65 - to someone # 63
Unregistered - 42o 02.01.2006 15:25
Yes i do own a 360 and im looking towards the future for ps3. I own 8 360 games (cod2, condemed, doa4, madden, nfs:mw, pdz, tiger woods, pgr3) and like all of them (with the exception of the horrible multiplayer in cod2, hopefully will be patched soon) I dont hate on ps3 or 360 i just love gaming in general and hope that all future systems and games (regardless of company) just keep getting better and better.

66 - to # 65
Someone 02.01.2006 15:39
NFS most wanted it a pretty good game, wouldn't mind haveing a bash with PDZ, My mate has it, but haven't seen him for a while (he's too busy working) to get the chance to have a go. Kameo doesn't look too bad, especialy the amount of charecter the game has on screen at once, while ploughing through the beasties on your horse.

67 - To Someone #64
BillGatesSucks 02.01.2006 15:40
I agree, banners and pop ups would be horrible. IGN comes to mind, every 3rd (or so) time you change pages a full screen ad pops up - very annoying. I suppose if they decided to charge for the service, it wouldn't scare everyone off.

Downloading music, hi def movies and games would certainly gobble up HDD space pretty quickly. Do you mean download it onto a PC HDD via the PS3 thru a USB connection? Then burn it to disk? That would be very handy and Sony for sure would make a lot of cash using that method. Although, downloading a full length 50 gig hi def movie would take forever. I suppose they'd only offer trailers.


68 - You guys are AWESOME!
Unregistered - Ugly American 02.01.2006 15:53
You guys are utterly ridiculous. Really. What are you guys so fired up about? Really.
One of my commanding officers once said, "People who only use vulgar words do so because they lack intelligence." At the time, I told him he was f#cking hilarious. But I am starting to realize he was right.

Rock on, retards. Rock on.


69 - To BillGatesSucks
Someone 02.01.2006 15:57
That is why Sony are leaving the option of HDD space open to the consumer, Ken says, you will never have enough space, which to me sounds like they intend for the consumer to download hi-def content and for them to include a 1000TBASE ethernet further supports, that Sony think next gen will realy pickup and internet provider prices will drop dramaticaly. I mentioned in another post, my internet speed has increased by 4 times my normal speed at no extra cost, the last update was only moths ago when they did the same thing, internet is getting cheaper and faster, I think Sony sees next gen gameing makeing the internet a more affordable and easier way to buy content, without the hassle of going into a store for your game or movie.

70 - To Someone
Havoc 02.01.2006 16:09
My internet increased too, who is you Internet Service Provider Bright house?

71 - Havoc
Someone 02.01.2006 16:15
My provider is Bluyonder a part of Telewest

72 - To Havoc
Someone 02.01.2006 16:31
Here are the updates for my service provider

http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyonder/getContent.jspx?page=bbs_evenfaster


73 - To Havoc
Someone 02.01.2006 16:41
I forgot to mention 4Mb connection was the fastest available until this new update and it cost £50 a month, that has now being reduced for people with 4Mb and their internet has increased to 10Mb. I thing the last update was in June/july last year, with 2Mb being £50 a month, so as you can see prices are dropping and speeds are invreasing. Also to note, you are not limited to how much your allowed to download in each month, its unlimited download.

74 - Xbugs...
Hmm 02.01.2006 16:42
Well well...now that Sony has taken over Xflambes last strong point, a unified online, all the xfools are here and shedding tears by bucket loads.
You xarsewipe nobjockeys...you are really pathetic.
Im a Sony fanboy, but I will admit Xbox is superior to PS2.
However, you idiots are having trouble admitting that the PS3 is superior to the xbox.
Bloody hell...I may be a fanboy, but im not in damn denial.
Stupid fools.


75 - Ha Ha
Chronocom 02.01.2006 17:19
Looks like the Crap Box 360 fanboys are getting scared that their not so next gen system won't stack up the the ps3. And I dont't think there will be a Halo 3 fot a long time if ever Microsoft said it there self.

76 - stop getting angry over plastic and metal
Unregistered - sean 02.01.2006 17:32
well guys i can see lots of sony fanboys and xbox fanboys. when will both sides learn that your arguing over plastic and metal also if you guys come to sense and see that every single console are great and they both have bad and good points. please stop saying that the xbox 360 or PS3 is more powerful than each other , lets get it straight, in some places the xbox 360 is more powerful but in other places the PS3 is more powerful so in respect they are very powerful machines and both offer potential for great games. halo and killzone are both great games in my view(my view is not right nor is wrong)if your a fanboy, your an idiot anyway so shut up. sony do build up hype alot and most of the things they promise just like MS never really become true, unreal tourement 2007 is not looking that great and i would rather see games like halo 3, killzone 2, half life 3 or half life: aftermath, gears of war, ghost recon so there is my view.

opinon is neither right nor wrong its just a view, a fact is something that is right but can be wrong when proven.


77 - hahahh reply to 26
Unregistered - dragn avengr 02.01.2006 18:17
LOL, first off F@G um not xbox fanboy, second who the f$#k that i said like 360. for 360 u noe what thinking of it 360 is just r trash can like utalking sh!t that u noe everythng. lol. now just go back n play your little xbox 1.5 n shut the f@@k up. don be annoy a$$ on ps3today website. lol.

78 - #76
bloop 02.01.2006 18:52
You're right. But as you'll notice from most of the threads they all start with PS fans discussing the news that has just been posted until some xbox fanboy comes along talking sh!t. All this arguing is totally idiotic and its not getting anyone anywhere. Unless xbox fanboys do have a strong point to argue or discuss, I think that everyone should just ignore them.

79 - lamer..copying my name
Unregistered - Akakage 02.01.2006 21:05
They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Apparently someone thought it would be a good idea to register as akakage and then start flaming. Its hilarious that someone will copy me. It's tough being a role model I guess, youngin's always looking up to you...trying to be you. The thing is though I did not register for this site so it will be pretty easy to tell who the imposter is. Secondly you can tell who the imposter is by his intellect. Chump probably doesn't even know where the name is from or what it means. Now that I said that he will try to look it up but its okay...you can try if you wish...but there is only one Akakage....me.

80 - oh ..... So now they serious -_-
Unregistered - amed 02.01.2006 21:25
what the hell does ur name have to do with this topic? ur not Donald trump, anyone can take ur nick name and use it as they wish.
Jumpin back to "Sony being Serious", Now that Sony is being serious, maybe they can tell us about the status of the ps3 like:
The price of the console?
The launch date and launch title?
and..... some gameplay footage!!?

So if Sony is serious, they should give us all the info we deserve. C'mon Sony u talk the talk but dont walk the walk!!!!!


81 -
Unregistered - JIN 02.01.2006 21:51
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let tekken6 be online. 360 is in trouble. what was that fool saying peter moore that Sony has NO online strategy?? HAHHA, he's prolly shi**ing in his pants right now.

82 -
bloop 02.01.2006 22:08
Tekken 6 has to be online, that would totally rock!!! I think they did plan to have 5 online but whatever happened they didnt include it, and that is the only reason why I still haven't bothered to buy an ethernet adaptor for my PS2. I've been waiting for an online Tekken since the PS2 launched!!! If 6 isn't online namco better watch out or else I'll falcon dice kick their arses Hwoarang stylee.

83 -
PAUL CERULA 02.01.2006 23:50

Ok folks lets analyze this,

1. Sony officially announces a little while ago in the PSM that there will be NO unified online
---A strange move considering sony's strategy

2. Than Sony puts a couple developer quotes in the psm.
---Why do you ask, is it so hard to figure out


Sony and everybody knows sticking with their current online will suffice and be no real burden on their sales. Ok so after officially deny it why would they change their minds.

The fact is that Sony isn't going to have unified online at least for the next couple years.

****This little querk of unprovable opinions is just to keep sony fans hoping and hoping until it launches and than you don't care. Job well done for Sony for successfully hyping their console.




84 -
PAUL CERULA 02.01.2006 23:52

ALSO MOST YOU GUYS BELIEVE NOT TO BELIEVE ANYTHING UNTIL SONY OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCES IT SO HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY BELIEVE THIS

THE FACT IS THAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE AND THAT'S how sony manipulates the market. By taking advantage of people not like me.


85 - Ps3 is a joke
Unregistered - The One and only 02.01.2006 23:55
Sony sucks
So as this stupid site
ahahahahahaha Live service my ass
Thats a joke
The only ppl that will believe that are retards
And the ppl runnin this site can go suck on bills nuts


86 - unrelated question
Unregistered - will 02.02.2006 00:25
are there 2 versions of the PS3 coming out the sleek one, and the one in the picture of this post?

87 - to #5
Unregistered - ... 02.02.2006 01:39
1- Sony keeps insisting late spring or early summer. Possibly November.

2- It is actually going to be a very similar set up to the Xbox 360. They will have a premium package with a harddrive, or a budget package with out a hard drive.

3- I think I will trust Hideo Kojima (game developing God) over you, thank you very much. He said it was in-game (and he proved it by a very rare movie that dissected it, and it was running in real time.) As for Killzone, Geurilla has said that they are getting graphics on par with their footage.

4- Actually, the Cell is over-performing. Many analysts don't think the developers will be able to take advantage of it. It actually has 1 main processor and seven assymetrical (better than symmetrical, a la 360) cores. Also, the xbox 360 processor is idle for about 40% of the time as all processors before the cell did. The cell is only idle for 1% of the time. The cell is a supercomputer chip.

5- Actually, developers have a general consensus that the PS3 is considerably more powerful than its counterpart.

6- Woohoo, you have to pay for an additional drive. We get it right out of the box, and guess what, it is on steroids. Analysts are predicting that Blu-ray will be the victor as it has more supporters. (the porn industry namely, which helped VHS beat Betamax greatly.)

7- I am confident that Killzone 2 will be a very good game. I found halo to be quite boring as I am a hardcore gamer. Halo is M$ method of attracting casual gamers.

8- It has given in-game. (even though they are very early on.) Namely, warhawk, lair, i-8, MGS4, and Fight night round 3.

9- Of course he says that. I found it quite funny why he said this. ATI said this is what we can do, no more. Nvidia said we will do everything you ask and more. So ATI is setting limits while Nvidia is trying to achieve wonders. Great mindset there guys.

10- They are confirmed to be real. Quit being so ignorant.

11- None of those games are leaving. You must be really stupid because the Getaway is developed by SONY!!! Actually, Tecmo may even bring over the lackluster series of Dead or alive. I am hoping for Ninja gaiden personally. (they said two titles.)

12- He said it would be possible to do it. He never said it would be better. I think he even said that there would be slight reductions.

13- Developers are learning how to grasp the immense power of the Cell, so now it is getting easier to develop. Granted, Microsoft didn't shoot very far with its processors, so they are naturally easier to develop for. But let's see what those xbox fanboys are saying when PS3 is accomplishing much better graphics later in the competition. (due to better knowledge of hardware.)

It is a pity you left. Maybe you should have done more research. I urge everyone to be accepting all systems. Before you do anything rash like the Cro magnon I just argued with, think it through and see which system provided the best memories in the past.

Whatever, I am done now. Hurray for fanboys (on all sides) that plagues this site. I salute you with flatulence and a finger raised in the air.


88 - Come on guys....
Unregistered - Fito 02.02.2006 02:08
Seriously, flame wars like this are ruining this site and many others. Arguing what console is better makes absolutely no sense right now as the 360 is too young and the PS3 doesn't even have a release date. Christmas 2007 is when those arguments can start, hopefully without the pointless flaming.

Last time I checked almost 50% of Xbox 360 owners are connected to Live and XBLA is turning into one of the console's greatest strengths. It was only a matter of time before Sony announced online plans, but once again, arguing over which online service is better serves no point because we don't know the depth of the PS3's online capabilities.

What we should be arguing about is the marketing battle that is raging right now between Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo


89 -
Unregistered - meh 02.02.2006 02:16
#83, thanks serula you put that in perspective

i hate these other fools


90 - #73
Unregistered - Jamo Ward 02.02.2006 03:57
Hi

just carrying on from the broadband point. 10mb will become the standard quite shorty as soon as BT is can offer 10mb to 98% of the uk population that everyone will have 10mb as standard as long as there local exchange can handle it. there will also be options for 15 and 20 mb, but this isnt what im excited about. i more excited at the future of SDSL this is used mainly by big business but the diffrence here is same upload and download speed. one 10mb broadband become the standered across the UK BT will start implimenting the access of SDSL to local excahnges and other service providers meening acess to the residential market.

what you will find when your in a game and there a bit of lagg its due mostly to the upload speed of the host rather than the download speed of the other players.

256K upload will become 10 upload and download. otherwise the end of lagg as we know it. meaning devs will be able to do more with the online services.

hope i didnt go on a little bit


91 - First times the charm.
Unregistered - Ozzmaster 02.02.2006 09:24
If you say that Sony can't produce a better live service than microsoft because MS has been doing live for years now and they have more expirience. Is the same as saying that the Xbox360 can't be as good as the PS3 because Sony has had more experience with game consoles. But I would also like to note that Sony has had success with every majior game project that they have ever done. On the first try. PS1, PS2, and PSP. Have all had success, and sony has had good competition against everything that they have released. To say that sony current online was a failure is not true. While MS has better quality online, sony still has great online numbers. So I believe that they can beat MS online with the first try. Good Luck Sony.

92 - That last post was funny
Unregistered - famo 02.02.2006 12:12
Sony is going to beat MS on online play??? Who is Bill Gates again???? Dude you gotta to be the dumbest person. Sony online is going to blow balls and will never beat MS. MS does so much with computers and online stuff Sony doesn't even stand a chance. Sony online what a joke!

93 - to you ^^^^
Unregistered - mark 02.02.2006 12:21
he didnt say it was going to beat XBL...did you even read the whole post???....he just said that saying XBL is better(without even playing sony's online) becuase they have more exp...is just like saying that the [PS3 is better because sony has more exp. in conosoles]....and we all know that the xbots will not agree with the statement in brackets...

94 - yeah right
Unregistered - PS3 KILLA 02.02.2006 12:36
FACE IT FAG GS3 IS GOING DOWN IN FLAMES WITH ALL YOU AS ITS FLAMERS. 360 IS BETTER ONLINE GAMES ARE BETTER AND LOOK OUT HALO3 IS COMING OBLIION IS COMING THEY ARE GOING TO BE THE PS3 KILLAS TRUST ME!

95 - X-Junk 1.5 Sucks Donkey Balls
Unregistered - Xbot Focker 02.02.2006 13:24
Fock Bill G@ytes and his motherfocking Microsux company. PS3 will your asses dumb retards.

96 - PS3 will rules your asses
Unregistered - Xbot Focker 02.02.2006 13:31
#94

it's cooled down now , you can go and play it again......


97 -
bloop 02.02.2006 13:45
Firstly I'd like to ask what was the big frickin deal with HALO?? I'll have to say it was a letdown, (but I wont even begin with killzone, terrible!!!) and what exactly is Oblivion??? I've never even heard of it. And I aint gonna shell out 500 big ones just to play 2 games, one that didnt live up to hype and one ive never heard of. There's more than 2 great games heading for PS3, think i'll wait.

98 - #97 YOUR A DUMBASS
Unregistered - SONY KILLA 02.02.2006 13:48
2 GAMES??? pgr3 pdz cod2....Also #97 you deffinately haven't looked at the games coming out for the 360 in march..Watch the F OUT B/C they are going to kick ass.. And by the way Oblivion is awsome and a PS3 KILLA. GHOST RECON IN MARCH TOO ALL PS3 KILLAS...HALO3 WHEW NEED I SAY MORE!!!

99 -
Unregistered - wotter 02.02.2006 15:08
Yeah, going to buy Oblivion for pc and wtf like Halo can compete with ps3...

Face it, games make and brake consoles (dreamcast anyone?). Grow up and don't be a blind sheep. Competition is good for us, it makes:
1. Prices low.
2. Makes sure that products are of a high quality.

I'm glad Sony is going to battle xb live head on. It's just sad that people are blinded by this, especially xboxfanboys. Live is what made xbox and now it is under heavy attack by Sony. Btw if you love your games for your precious console, than FFS PLAY THEM and don't come here again. I'm sick of all these fanboys, from all sides. Grow up so we can have mature discussions.


100 - to 98
Unregistered - mark 02.02.2006 15:19
dude...both systems are going to have good games...in all genres...

PS3
MGS 4
GT
GTA 4
UT: 2007

360
oblivion
PGR 3
Gears of War


101 -
Unregistered - wotter 02.02.2006 15:21
Yup, games make consoles...
Btw, I think gta will be multiplatform (but I think it will be out on ps3 first).


102 - #6 or anyone
Unregistered - dsfsdf 02.02.2006 16:01
well, as a gamer; the xbox 360 looks horrible...... my pc pumps out 50x better graphics.. but w/e XBOX sucks took them forever to get xbox 1 out.. which sucked...so does any other console...i have yet to see ANY wow factors in Xbox games (or xbox in general)... the 360 is only a polished up verison of the last cr@ppy console which weighted in at an amazing 30 lbs and full of problems..


comps are the best for games.. still; and they're the future


103 - #98
EnforcerOfTheTruth 02.02.2006 16:47
LOL most games you named are PC ports or vice versa. Face the truth, your xflop has zero top notch exclusive material.

104 -
Unregistered - me 02.02.2006 17:28
Thats not fair...... xbox came up with that first. lol

105 -
Unregistered - WOW 02.02.2006 17:30
Dude who is number 17? No one cares about reading that much from one person

106 - To #59
Unregistered - Ok 02.02.2006 18:34
What makes you think your ps3 will be able to record live tv? I have never heard this before, I don't know where you got that info but I bet its wrong. Also if you could use your psp to go online and tell your ps3 to record, why do you even need the psp to do this? If you can go online and do it why should you need the psp to? Also I am pretty sure you wont be able to just go online anywhere with your psp without paying for some kind of service, so your free online thing will not be free no matter what. If you expect the ps3 to have a great online service you can bet anything that you will be paying for it. Nothing in life is free, or haven't you learned this yet?

107 - #102
Unregistered - What 02.02.2006 18:41
What are you talking about, seriously? PC games are not all that better looking, in fact the games for ps3 and Xbox will look better for some time considering they are using cards that aren't even available yet. There are Ps3 fanboys, Xbox 360 fanboys, and PC fanboys... guess which one you are. But before you get all bent out of shape, yes I do play many games on the PC, (BF2, CS, Unreal, Quake, COD...) and if you want to know my PC specs I would be glad to offer them up.

108 -
Unregistered - Yea right 02.02.2006 19:42
#103 So far there are almost only Ports (multiplatform) coming to PS3. The game the guy mentioned, UT 2007, is only one example.

MGS3 will be coming to PC soon, that already has 1 + 2, so it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise that MGS 4 will also go to PC. PORT.
Time Crisis: PORT.
Resident Evil 5: PORT.
Fight Night Round 3: PORT.
Killing Day: PORT.
Vampire's Rain: PORT.
Sonic the Hedgehog: PORT.

And many more, those are just off the top of my head. That leaves a pretty small amount of exclusives for PS3.

Devil May Cry 4
Fifth Phanton Saga
Getaway 3
Gundam World
Heavenly Sword
I-8
Killzone 2
MotorStorm
Ni-Oh
Tekken
Vision Gran Turismo
Warhawk
Fatal Inertia
Hitsuji Mura

And only a few of those MIGHT be launch titles, at least from what we've heard of them. Mahjong for example =P.

X360 also has quite a few exclusives announced or already released.

Amped 3
APB
Battle Angel
Blue Dragon
Call of Duty 3
Chrome Hounds
Dark Sector
The Darkness
Dimitri
Dead or Alive 4
Dead or Alive Code: Cronus
Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball 2
Dead Rising
Demonik
Dog Tag
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Fable 2
Frame City Killer
Gears of War
Halo 3
Huxley
Kameo: Elements of Power
Lost Odyssey
Metronome
Monster Madness
Ninety-Nine Nights
Outfit
Perfect Dark Zero
Project Gotham Racing 3
Possession
Saints Row
Test Drive Unlimited
Thesis
Top Spin 2
2 Days to Vegas
RalliSport Challenge 3

Notice this is only games that have been announced, not speculations. Also, the X360 might only be larger because of the fact that it's been released already and Sony is always tight lipped about their games in general, but this just TOTALLY disproves your point.

Oh, and *sigh* I'm not a fanboy like you, these are just lists. Add more titles if you want, though I doubt you'll find more than one or two that have actually been announced as exclusives.


109 -
Unregistered - Oh 02.02.2006 19:44
Scratch Huxley btw, that's also a PC game. BUT yes, games like Fable 2 are only coming to X360. Peter Molyneux or others might change their mind, but it being as likely a port to PC as MGS 4? I seriously doubt it.

110 - additional Sony online info
BillGatesSucks 02.02.2006 20:37
I found a scan of the article from the March issue of PSM that included another page that talked about more features of PS3 online. This is quoated from the article.


Sony knows that it has to hook hardcore early system buyers with the world's best game console, so the PS3 should be %99.99 game focused from day one. "There are so many more PS3 games being worked on in the U.S. than people realize," explains our source, "We got our final development hardware in early January, and it's even faster than we were expecting. We're going to have a lot of fun just throwing stuff into our game world and just trying to get the thing to slow down."
Sony's long term plans extend beyond gaming and into the broader entertainment world. "DVR functionality is going to be a big push for this thing," PSM was told. "We don't know exactly how the video is going to get the system but it's a top priority for Sony," they added, elaborating that "High def movie and TV episode downloads over the online service are a definite, kind of like the itunes music store."
Sony is planning to take the media center functionality that Microsoft built into the xbox 360 a big step forward, according to our sources and others in-the-know. It will also allow the PS3 to stream all major video and audio formats over a home network. Location free playback using the PSP is still planned to be in the final hardware, meaning that you will be able to use the portable to watch DVDs and video files, view photos and listen to music stored on your home network anywhere in the world via the internet. Taking things a step further, the PSP will be able to send data to the PS3 (for example pop the memory stick from your digital camera into your PSP while on vacation and send photos home). The PSP will also be able to control the DVR functions of the PS3.
"It's something that will evolve to add new features over time," our source points out, adding that frequent firmware updates will continue to add new functionality to the PSP, and eventually, the PS3 as well.

The Blu Ray Factor
At January's CES in Las Vegas, Sony introduced its first stand alone Blu Ray video player, with a hefty suggested retail price of $1300. Units from partner manufacturers were similarly priced. How, then, does Sony expect to sell a sub $500 console with the same functionality built in? "It comes down to a multitude of things," says our source. "On a basic level, the PS3's Cell and RSX chips can handle most of what a stand alone Blu Ray player's various circuitry has to own their own." Mostly, though, it's betting on the format. "Sony really sees Blu Ray as a sure fire success. They're betting almost everything on it, and so they're going to take a pretty big loss on PS3 early on," confides a top PSM contact. "The format's massive storage capacity is awesome for developers, but a lot of us are still not sold on the viability of the format outside that." They added, "But hey, who thought UMD movies would be so popular?"

When?
Many developers that we've spoken to in confidence are being told to get their games finished for a fall release of the PS3 in the U.S. As for when the ambitious online service will launch, that remains a closely guarded secret, but the fact that developers are making launch games online compatible should be a pretty big clue.


111 - *Sigh*
Unregistered - *sigh* 02.02.2006 20:47
How old are you people? Seriously. You sound like a bunch of prepubesent boys who just learned a new cuss word

112 -
Unregistered - ... 02.02.2006 21:49
#110

Hmm, I'll wait and see, but I can't believe Sony keeps lying to us! ! !
If that release date is true, and they come up with some indirect excuse again (Remember PSP european release bs or Ps2 launch games?) I'll be getting mighty angry at those guys. They said Spring, and they better keep their promise.


113 - PS3 NEWS
Someone 02.02.2006 21:53
More info from PSM March issue

"We reported on Sony’s online plans earlier in the week after a scan from PSM appeared. Well, it seems there’s another page. According to the mag, the PS3 will apparently have an online service that floors Xbox Live. The PS3 will also be your new Tivo and double as a DVR. There are more games being developed in the US than previously thought. The PS3 Final Dev kit is faster than expected. There will be a download service similar to iTunes (which I hope Sony doesn’t totally effe up with their own software). The PS3 will serve as a Location Free Player for the PSP, which means you’ll be able to check out DVDs and Blu-ray’s from your PS3 via the PlayStation Portable. Moreover, the PSP will be able to control the PS3’s DVR functions and send files to the PS3. Developers are being told to prep for a fall release."

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GameStop Lists 32 PS3 Titles for Pre-Order

I-8
Condemned: Criminal Origins
Dark Sector
Devil May Cry 4
Dirty Harry
Dog Tag
Eyedentify
Fifth Phantom Saga
Fight Night Round 3
Formula 1
Gundam World
Heavenly Sword
Indiana Jones
Killing Day
Killzone 2
Metal Gear Solid 4
Metronome
MotorStorm
NioH
Peter Jackson’s King Kong
Possession
Project Delta
Psychopath
Scarface: The World is Yours
Spider-Man 3
Stranglehold
Tekken
The Darkness
The Getaway 3
Theseis
Vision Gran Turismo
Warhawk

PS3 devs say PS3 easy to dev for

Check out this this on the Guardian’s always brilliant Gamesblog. The author, Keith Stuart, spoke with developers who’ve been slaving over games for the PlayStation 3. They told Stuart that, contrary to popular belief, it’s not that difficult to program the PS3. In fact, it’s not all that different from writing games for the PC, since the machine uses a version of OpenGL.

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/index.php


114 -
PAUL CERULA 02.02.2006 22:18
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GUYS I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO SAVE A MACROMEDIA FLASH VIDEO OFF OF A WEBSITE

If you guys know how I'd be very happy if you told me cause I need it for someone who has cancer. Look I know this is very off topic but its important to people I know.

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115 - To PAUL
Someone 02.02.2006 22:21
Try this http://www.flash-screen.com/flashsaver/

116 - To PAUL
Someone 02.02.2006 22:29
You can also download flash files by right clicking an area on the page your viewing and click on 'view source' in the menu, then just look for the link address which will end with .swf

117 -
PAUL CERULA 02.02.2006 22:57
hey someone thanks for replying but it's not working on this certain website

heres the website I need the video off of perhaps you would know

http://kdka.com/topstories/local_story_033172553.html


118 - To Paul
BillGatesSucks 02.02.2006 23:07
Is it possible to look for the macro-mediafile in your temp internet folder and copy it over?

119 - To PAUL
Someone 02.02.2006 23:35
I'm looking into it, unfortunately its in XML format nad the page is useing javascript, I'm sure there is a way around it though

120 - To PAUL
Someone 02.03.2006 00:39
Nope cant get the file, I've even tried looking for it through FTP on the site, Sorry

121 - Xflop 1.5
Unregistered - Xpox 02.03.2006 00:43
"Amped 3-Crap
APB-Crap
Battle Angel CRAP
Blue Dragon
Call of Duty 3-not exclusive
Chrome Hounds
Dark Sector
The Darkness
Dimitri
Dead or Alive 4 -CRAP
Dead or Alive Code: Cronus -CRAP
Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball 2 -CRAP
Dead Rising
Demonik
Dog Tag
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Fable 2
Frame City Killer -CRAP
Gears of War
Halo 3
Huxley
Kameo: Elements of Power -CRAP
Lost Odyssey
Metronome -CRAP
Monster Madness -CRAP
Ninety-Nine Nights
Outfit
Perfect Dark Zero -CRAP
Project Gotham Racing 3 -CRAP
Possession
Saints Row
Test Drive Unlimited -CRAP
Thesis
Top Spin 2 -CRAP
2 Days to Vegas CRAP
RalliSport Challenge 3 CRAP

So pretty much less than half are not crap (give or take, I'm not gonna count them)

Seriously, nobody gives a shït if those exclusives are or will be crap, you moronic Xbug.


122 - losers
Unregistered - grrrrr 02.03.2006 00:46
U are all losers why do u all have to fight about this crap , i love sony , no i love microsoft , its so annoying its like on every coment page grr , as for me i think its pathetic that sony has stolen the idea microsoft created , and i think xbox 360 is a great machine just like ps3 will be , it is so pi$$ing me off , !

123 - To # 121
Someone 02.03.2006 01:49
Dog Tag isnt exclusive either, its possible there could be more but cant be bother researching


124 - to # 121
Someone 02.03.2006 01:50
I just noticed another 'Possession' who's devs say PS3 is easy to dev for

125 - To # 108
Someone 02.03.2006 02:09
Did you bother to check if your list of games were all exclusive? I just found another that's coming to PS3 called Thesis, which is wrongly spelt in the copy paste of the preorder PS3 game list.

126 - Exclusive???
Someone 02.03.2006 02:13
I know I said I wasn't going to research into this, but guess what?... Demonik is not an X360 exclusive either.

127 -
Someone 02.03.2006 02:22
So we have 36 Xflop games in that list 14 are rated as CRAP by # 121 and 5 known to be not exclusive (could be more) that leaves 17 supposedly exclusive games

128 -
Someone 02.03.2006 02:33
OH my, that number just dropped to 15, I found 2 more 'The Darkness' and 'Dark Sector' Metronome is another but that was already counted as CRAP, I think that could be all of them, can anyone see any other xflop non exclusives?

Xflop has 15 so far that according to # 121 are not so bad games, otherwise they would have been given the "CRAP" rating


129 - hi
Unregistered - hello 02.03.2006 04:02
wassup

130 - BULL
Unregistered - whatever 02.03.2006 04:43
HA ... It's funny how people keep calling the 360 "xflop" I just think PS fans are jealous that MS fans have gotten what they wanted for christmas and they have to wait for an uknown date and jerk to a service that hasn't comeout yet while MS fans are enjoying LIVE all this time. The only reason for MS fans missing in the xbox webpage is cuz they are all playing a console that exist. sony fans are just visiting websites to learn more about their wet dream until it gets released in the next 5 yrs ... HA!

131 -
Unregistered - wotter 02.03.2006 05:25
So xboxfans got what they wanted for christmas? There are millions of people still WAITING to get their hands on the system. In you logic, only 900000 people xboxfans live in the US. Rofl!

132 - Ps3 is a joke
Unregistered - Ice Cold 02.03.2006 06:47
Its funny how ps3 fagz are still waiting desperately for their grill station oh when is the release date??? No one knows hahahahaha
It could be 2007 and you fagz are still playin your crappy ps2 hahahaha
you guys are pathetic loosers


133 - #132
Unregistered - ZeroCool 02.03.2006 07:07
your a loser ice cold. come here talking smack like that and you'll get smacked around the head you sh1t. id love to knock the sh1t out of you nerd.



134 - Leading French AI company, supports PS3
Someone 02.03.2006 07:56
Ive just posted this news, but if it doesnt make it, here is the link
http://www.ps3news.ca/02022006/10/kynogon_to_support_sony_ps3

The page wont let you copy paste, and can't be arsed typeing it all out so just raed the news at the link.



135 - Thank GOD Xbox has live!!!
Unregistered - some guy 02.03.2006 09:39
It will keep all the idiots and jerks off of our Playstation network!
(see above for cross sample of people on xbox live)


136 - i like to eat dog sh1t
Unregistered - some guy 02.03.2006 10:21
I LIKE TO EAT DOG SH1T, ITS YUMMY

137 - PS3 live will blow,
Unregistered - halo3 ps3 killer 02.03.2006 10:47
u are all faggy people who still wait for ur grill system that will blow. Plus you have to copy off of xbox live. And what is up with, WHAT NOW BILLY. You are all pathetic. First off. It will probably be free. then will lag up ur system, blow em up. LOL. Plus you dont have ne good games. killzone, if you call that a game. Get out a little more. I bet COD2 can take that out. Halo3 will kill the ps3 system. Srry to say that, just had to break it to you PS3 F@G BOYS. Get ur own fricken ideas, quit copying off of M$. 360 RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


138 -
Unregistered - Why 02.03.2006 12:17
#Someone

You're actually taking some loser's words on what games are CRAP or not? I hope you're not serious, or what little respect I had for you is now completely gone.

Also, I don't get your list of games either...they were talking about exclusives, but over HALF of those you mention aren't. Look:

I-8
Condemned: Criminal Origins - PORT
Dark Sector - PORT
Devil May Cry 4
Dirty Harry - PORT
Dog Tag - PORT
Eyedentify
Fifth Phantom Saga
Fight Night Round 3 - PORT
Formula 1 - PORT
Gundam World
Heavenly Sword
Indiana Jones - PORT
Killing Day - PORT
Killzone 2
Metal Gear Solid 4 - (We know it will become a port, but still, not yet confirmed)
Metronome - PORT
MotorStorm
NioH - PORT
Peter Jackson’s King Kong - PORT
Possession - PORT
Project Delta - PORT
Psychopath
Scarface: The World is Yours - PORT
Spider-Man 3 - PORT
Stranglehold - PORT
Tekken
The Darkness - PORT
The Getaway 3
Theseis - PORT
Vision Gran Turismo
Warhawk


139 - STFU NIGGERS
Unregistered - ZeroCool 02.03.2006 12:45
STFU YOU A$$ WIPE 360 NIGGERS

140 - To # 138
Someone 02.03.2006 13:11
Here is my take on that list:

I-8
Condemned: Criminal Origins - Not interested
Dark Sector - dont know, have to look this game up
Devil May Cry 4 - waiting to judge, I found the series repetetive, hope for something new
Dirty Harry - Not interested
Dog Tag - dont know, but judgeing by name, I probably wont bother with it
Eyedentify - waiting to judge, didn't understand what was happening in the trailer
Fifth Phantom Saga - looks crap
Fight Night Round 3 - Not interested, but looks good
Formula 1 - will buy this
Gundam World - looks good, but seems too slow paced for me, gonna wait and see
Heavenly Sword - looks good, but gonna hold off see what its like first
Indiana Jones - waiting to judge
Killing Day - graphics not too bad...the game itself, not for me
Killzone 2 - haven't played the first one, so gonna wait and judge
Metal Gear Solid 4 - Defenate buy (PS3 Exclusive, did Xbox get MGS3?)
Metronome - Not interested
MotorStorm - defenate buy
NioH - Not interested
Peter Jackson’s King Kong - Not interested
Possession - looks like crap (at the moment anyway, graphics wise) gonna wait and judge
Project Delta - Not interested
Psychopath - dont know, have to look this game up
Scarface: The World is Yours - dont know, have to look this game up
Spider-Man 3 - this will be crap, I hate spiderman games
Stranglehold - dont know, have to look this game up
Tekken - defenate buy
The Darkness - dont know, have to look this game up
The Getaway 3 - waiting to judge
Theseis - dont know, have to look this game up
Vision Gran Turismo - defenate buy
Warhawk - defenate buy

If any of the games I put "dont know, have to look this game up" next to are FPS'ers, I'm not interested.

So theie you have it, my honest opinion on that list of games. I will check the ones I'm not sure about and post what I think of them, if there is info available for those games.


141 - # 138
Someone 02.03.2006 13:17
Oops, I missed I-8 at the begining, I wont bother with this game, I prefer FPS'ers on PC with K/M

142 -
Unregistered - Yea 02.03.2006 13:22
#140

That's a good idea, it's still odd that so many are ports though. Still, it is handy for people that can only afford one console.

Dog Tag seems kind of interesting, a bit like MGS 4. But I don't really enjoy the MGS genre OR SC btw, so I don't think I'll be getting either games.

Also Warhawk, looking at the newest trailer, I'm quite disapointed in. It doesn't look as good as at E3, and even then, the oldstyle gameplay in a new jacket just doesn't seem worth the buy. I might rent it though.

Heavenly Sword looks quite interesting, just like N3 Nights on X360 I think I'll be getting this one.

Btw. MGS3 will probably be coming to PC (which is what I meant, platform exclusive it will probably not be). Oh, and they actually did talk about bringing MGS3 to Xbox after finishing MGS4 because of XBL capabilities. Anyway, the chance is pretty big that MGS4 will go to PC after a while.

Motorstorm...hmmm, tough call. One of those trailers that I seriously doubt will come true, but the gameplay DOES look like great fun, and I enjoy the partly offroad arcade racers (Rallisport Challenge was great fun). So yea, I'd probably get this one.

Tekken, nah, don't like Tekken at all. Wooden, slow combo's, not enough innovation per title. I've been really let down by just about all the fighting franchises so I'll have to see.

Posession looks like it might have some good atmosphere, DMC 3 I thought was quite fun so part 4 could be another buy, Killzone 2 well the first one was total crap, just seriously bad, hopefully they'll learn from their mistakes.

There are a few others that def. look interesting, but I'll need to know more about them.


143 - The ones I didn't know
Someone 02.03.2006 13:44
Dark Sector - looks like FPS, if not I way get it

Dog Tag - looks like FPS, at first glance graphics look poor, I'll wait see

Psychopath - Not interested, its a FPS

Scarface: The World is Yours - Probably get this

Stranglehold - wait to judge

The Darkness - not sure what type of game this is, will wait and see

Theseis - not interested


144 - To Someone #134
BillGatesSucks 02.03.2006 14:05
I read the article at the link you posted and decided to go right to the Kynogon homepage to see if there was something there about it and sure enough there was. Kynogon will be using their Kynapse 4.0 version for the PS3 which will include what they called a "large scale AI." The version of Kynapse that Kynogon will be using in the 360 is called SDK and judging by reading both articles it sounds as if version 4.0 will offer a better AI. Maybe you should take a look at both and give us your input.

145 - con't from above
BillGatesSucks 02.03.2006 14:47
I just finished reading the article about the PSP and it too uses Kynapse SDK, the same AI used by the 360. Imagine that, the PSP and the 360 using the same AI.

146 - To BillGatesSucks
Someone 02.03.2006 15:13
X360 is/was useing an older version than the version coming to PS3 (Kynapse 4.0 "large scale A.I.") wheather or not X360 is useing or going to use this new version, I'm not so sure about, I'm not even sure if it can be run on X360's SDK.

With the article on the X360 version of Kynapse saying "Kynapse state-of-the-art A.I. SDK is now combined with the power of Xbox 360", it sounds like X360 is running its version on seperate hardware to the X360's SDK,(SDK = Software developement Kit) and not useing a software solution like PS3. It looks like X360 cant run Kynapse on its own SDK while creating the actual AI at the same time, hence needing seperate hardware. So unless a hardware version of Kynapse 4.0 is in the works or has already been made for X360, I cant see X360 useing Kynapse 4.0.


147 - I have my own opinion about this.
Unregistered - Honest Abe 02.03.2006 15:33
First off, Xbox fanboys shut the hell up. Thank you.

Secondly, I'm not liking the idea. What made Ps2 online so good was that it was free, and it was still very good. I'm NOT going to be forking over more money for the same thing, but with a few bonuses tagged on. I'm not sure about you, but the Ps3 alone is gonna cost me BIG. I'm really not liking the whole Ps3 live or whatever.

Thirdly, Xbox fanboys you can cram it where the moon don't shine. So what if we finally get a Live system? You already got your's, let the others enjoy theirs.


148 - BillGatesSucks
Someone 02.03.2006 16:08
While Kynapse 4.0 will be good on a great scale, The AI still remains scripted AI. If non scripted AI could be done on such a large scale, that would make a great game. I think more games should have non scripted AI, non scripted AI = they think realistically for themselves, Far Cry uses non scripted AI.

149 - Someone
BillGatesSucks 02.03.2006 16:45
Non scripted AI sounds more like what AI should be, a true "Artificial Intelligence" where the NPC makes decisions based on the variables present in the current gaming situation, not just some pre-determined scripted action that might not even make logical sense. I'm definately no AI expert but it seems that non scripted AI would mean a lot of "ifs" in the programming, which means much more coding?

150 - To BillGatesSucks
Someone 02.03.2006 20:19
For someone who doesn't know much about non scripted AI, you described it pretty well :)
Anyway your right about the extra codeing, but if you build yourself a game engine, you only have to do all that codeing once, then just improve on it for the next game you make. The cry engine wasn't perfect, but its bad quite a few updates since Farcry was released and is now called cry engine 2, you should check the tech demo out sometime, obviously not just the AI has been updated quite a few things have been updated to the engine.

Check out some new stuff in cry engine 2 here http://www.fileshack.com/file_download_limited.x?fid=8263
Unfortunately, you dont get to see the non scripted AI at work.

Scroll down the page to the 2 download server links that are on their own, download from one of those cos those are free links capped at 100K/s

We should be talking about this in the new AI thread, ah well... hope you find the download interesting, its only a short preview.


151 -
Someone 02.03.2006 20:49
"but its bad quite a few updates" should have been "but its HAD quite a few updates"

152 - Someone
BillGatesSucks 02.03.2006 20:57
okay, I'm heading over to the AI thread

153 - 360, 360, I love my 360
Unregistered - Bill Gates 02.04.2006 01:39
Good morning PS3 chumps, any truth to the rumor of two SKU's for the PS3?

http://www.gamerandy.com/archives/2006/02/ps3_skuered_1.shtml

Mwhahahahaha!!!


154 -
Unregistered - wotter 02.04.2006 06:02
You said it correct, xboxfanboy, it's a RUMOR. Sony already said that they don't want to confuse costumers with two versions, just like M$ did. Thank you, next.

155 - blu ray 1x very slow
Unregistered - questions 02.04.2006 08:28
I read somewhere that the 1st blu ray drive are going to be extremly slow to read from unlike then 360' 12x player! So will there be a faster disc to read from or will there be a faster player that comes out? If Ps3 comes out with a slower drive will u need to purchase a faster one later or will the disc be more expensive and how much will this cost!

156 - To # 153
Someone 02.04.2006 09:02
Your link to a rumour is exactly that, jeez he probably even made the rumour up himself.

"Supposedly the cheaper version will not be able to play Blu-Ray movies, only blu ray games"

If it has a blu-ray player it plays both, not one or the other, thats just stupid, only a fool would believe that.


157 - To # 155
Someone 02.04.2006 09:18
You heard wrong PS3 will at least have a 2x BD ROM drive as Hi-def movies require transfere rates of 54Mbps, 1x blu-ray only has a transfere rate of 35Mbps, so cant ideal with Hi-def playback. PS3's transfere rate will be at least 72Mbps which is a 2x BD ROM's transfere rate.

The X360 has a transfere rate of 16.2Mbps (12x DVD)



158 - PS3 controller....
Unregistered - poopmouth 02.04.2006 11:28
Has anyone heard anything about the ps3 controller? are they going to keep the same boomerang design or are they going to change it? and if so, what kind of controller are they changing it too......i'd imagine that they would need to change it now with the anouncement of this online service. that way they can have a button right on the controller to access the ps3 live or whatever it will be called...sorry for being off topic....peace.

159 - p
Unregistered - b 02.05.2006 00:37
Don't be retards, you dumb Xbugs; the BD drive speed will forcibly be 2X (or more, but that's unlikely). Not like it matters, because it will work perfectly for playing movies.

As for the games, it is likely that they will all start being DVDs, and since the PS3 will have a DVD player and a CD player too, it is likely that it will be faster than the BD-reader; so the speed at which games are read will be equal or faster than that of 360 (the numbers are still unknown).

I can't wait till one of you morons say: "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BLU-RAY GAMES LOLZ!? WONT THEY BE SLOWER THAN THE GAMES ON 360!?!?!" because you will be owning yourselves. When a game uses a Blu-ray disc, the 360 won't have any game comparable to it (in amount of content).

Go play your Xflame 360 if it is so fun.


160 - the best thing about the ps3, blu ray
Unregistered - Chainblade 02.05.2006 10:58
PS3 1080p 1980*1080= 2138400
Xbox360 720p 1280*720= 921600

As you can see the blu ray is really neccesary because of the much higher resolution.


161 - STFU
Unregistered - PapaPerv 02.05.2006 12:31
All you Sony and MS fanboys, SHUT THE FOG UP!!! You guys are all fogging idiots! Get a fogging life! Stop FLAMING!!!

162 - silly xbots
Unregistered - the_man 02.05.2006 13:33
haha hahah xbots

163 -
Unregistered - Chainblade 02.05.2006 17:27
Okay, so if all of us who likes xbox360,ps3 (and I like rev as well), if we shut up, the forum would be NADA

164 -
PAUL CERULA 02.05.2006 22:00
Ok folks lets analyze this,

1. Sony officially announces a little while ago in the PSM that there will be NO unified online
---A strange move considering sony's history

2. Than Sony puts a couple developer quotes in the psm.
---Why do you ask, is it so hard to figure out


Sony and everybody knows sticking with their current online will suffice and be no real burden on their sales. Ok so after officially denying it why would they change their minds.

The fact is that Sony isn't going to have unified online at least for the next couple years.

****This little querk of unprovable opinions is just to keep sony fans hoping and hoping until it launches and than you don't care. Job well done for Sony for successfully hyping their console.



ALSO MOST YOU GUYS BELIEVE NOT TO BELIEVE ANYTHING UNTIL SONY OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCES IT SO HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY BELIEVE THIS

THE FACT IS THAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE AND THAT'S how sony manipulates the market. By taking advantage of people not like me.



165 - Chainblade you idiot
Unregistered - PapaPerv 02.06.2006 00:33
I said stop fogging flaming!! Sharing constructive opinions are fine. You have a shlong, I have a shlong lets stop fighting over the size and start banging chicks! Its all about the chicks! Its the same for games! STOP FOGGING FLAMING!

166 - To Paul #164
BillGatesSucks 02.06.2006 02:49
Paul, when the PS3 arrives and proves all your rantings wrong, I want you to walk around the downtown area of where ever it is you live wearing nothing but a sandwhich board that has WELCOM3 CHANG3 written on it in BIG lettering, okay?

167 - Who is Chang3...LMFAO!!!!
Unregistered - Akakage 02.06.2006 13:23
U know...ever since E3 last year I been wondering..Who is this Chang 3? I looked all over the LA convention center..and "Welcome Chang 3" was all over the place but where was Chang 3? If I would have seen the guy I gladly would have welcomed him to the USA but alas Chang3 was no where to be found. I would have asked Chang3 about his siblings Chang1 and Chang2 and how they were doing. Since Chang3 was apparently over at sony's booth, I wanted to ask him about the next-gen Sony Console and just how good it really is. But alas, even over at Sony's booth Mr 3 wasn't present. I was thinkin that maybe someone should call missing persons and maybe get Chang3's face on a milk carton or something. I'm sure there are alot of people worried about him. Chang3 where are you???

LMFAO...HAHAHAHAH!!! Its funny but its kind of true..nobody hear really knows about chang3...go figure.


168 - 360 will win
Unregistered - The one 02.06.2006 17:57
360 will win, why? because the most important company to the economy always wins and there is no doubt that microsoft is more important than sony for the economy. all pc manufacturers including sony rely on Microsofts' success because of the windows OS.And there is something to think about: sony actually buys windows OS for their computers, kinda makes you wonder if the joke is on us. maybe competition is just an illusion.

169 -
PAUL CERULA 02.07.2006 00:50

Thanks bill gates for saying absolutely nothing again


170 - to #168
Unregistered - poop 02.07.2006 01:58
and why is MS so important to the economy of UK and Japan?...if they win NA...SOny could still win UK...and we all know that either SOny or nintendo will win Japan....

171 -
Unregistered - hbk 02.07.2006 14:54
Yes, they are mad serious alright, they betta.



172 - #168
Dark Samurai 02.07.2006 15:25
What a childish argument. No one relies on Microsoft. In fact if they fail, it'll be great for the computers industry. We'll have competition in the OS market and this will bring higher quality products and will quicken the pace of technological development. We'll be able to use Linux on any PC and even play our games on it. Windows is a burden for this industry.

173 - Paul
BillGatesSucks 02.07.2006 15:34
I'm not the one coming to a PS3 forum preaching conversion to the 360. Maybe what I'm saying to you amounts to nothing, but that's all that your posts merrit.

174 - to comment 168
Havoc 02.07.2006 15:36
When it comes to the gaming industry, Sony is the most important company to the economy, everyone benifits from Sony with the ps2 giving dvd sales the extra boost that it needed. Developers make more profits from sales from the ps2. The gaming indusrty grows when there is a Sony console is on the market. Yes M$ is important when it comes to OS in computers but Sony's impact on the game industry is tremendous, when you see more Hd tv's inter consumer's homes you can bet a good reason is because of Sony's ability to push A true HD experience into a console. If I had to rely on one company to push a next-gen dvd format it would definatly be Sony, I Sure wouldn't want to rely on Microsoft to do it, with an external HD-DVD drive. When it comes to the gaming industry, Sony is more important the M$.

175 - toiletbowl 360
Unregistered - ps3 all the way 02.08.2006 16:49
stop talkin crap about ps3 when it aint even out yet. toilet bowl 360 aint even next gen its got same prossesors as pc. they just add dual core crap thats why its a toilet bowl, and their prophets are goin to flush down the toilet and Cause ps3 is gonna eat the 360 and crap it out. Dont get scared of the real time footage MGS4 and the footage of ps2 game BLACK that looks better than any toiletbox game out there.

176 - Where is there a FREE great online service?
Unregistered - Dragonopolis 02.08.2006 19:46
PS2 free internet gaming was alright but it never had the features that come from paid services such as xboxlive or what is offered on PC. Contrary, to what people believe it's actually more expensive to have an open on-line system than a closed source system like the MS. Look at all the PC games that charge anywhere from $10 to $20 dollars a month to play. Let's say I wanted to mingle with 3 PC games that charge a monthly subscription service to play their games. It would cost me roughly $40 to $60 dollars a month to play all three games on-line. Xbox 360 live only cost about $60 for a 12 month gold membership that's about $5 dollars a month. I'll pick the cheaper option.

The advantages of an open system though come from custom tailering servers to one specifice game verses the closed system which has to cater to everybody and thus potentially limiting some developers.

The advantages of an closed system, if it is well designed, is less expensive and can offer more services to a wider audience and thus better customer satisfaction. Luckly, Xbox Live was designed well enough that alot of the advantages that the open online systems had has narrowed. Narrowed enough that the cost advantages outway whatever gains you might get using the open online system.

I might be heckled for this, but it is a close analogy. Microsoft is alot like George Washington. George Washington lost more battles than he won as a Military Leader. Yet the battles he did win were the important ones and that's what the American people remembered. Thus he easily became the first President of the United States. Microsoft has lost more battles than they have won but the battles they have won( in the peoples eyes) has been in the Office catagory, and in my opinion the Xbox live feature of the Xbox (which I believe is what made Xbox the number 2 console) and thus easily became a factor in both the PC and console world. For a long time now, MS has held that mantle as the leader in OS and Software application but it seems that it's "Presidential" status is coming to an end. Xbox 360 is a good attempt to keep that mantle but Microsoft may have jumped the gun to early. Sony can now meet or beat Microsoft feature for feature and with a possibility of a more powerful
system could keep MS from gaining any additional foothold on the market. Even Nintendo has the possibility to unseat MS from it's second position if people aren't willing to buy into an HDTV just yet(which technically if you by a PS3 or Xbox360 your going to need one to get the full experience -- that makes the next-gen systems even more expensive for those with no HDTV -- like me) with the Possibility of the Unreal engine being able to run on the Revolution and the fact that it might be alot less expensive -- people just might choose the Revolution over the Xbox because of the incredible amount of great exclusive content and excellent first party games -- something that Xbox 360 still hasn't matched.

PS3 with an closed online service that can at least match the xbox 360's features and price in addition to the ability to play HD Movies and Play next-gen qaulity games could spell doom for the mighty Xbox. It's getting harder to justify owning 2 game systems which can take almost $1000 dollars of our hard earn money not counting the cost of HDTV you would have to buy -- especially when the systems have very little to offer as far as exclusives and are very similar in features.

There is nothing wrong with the Xbox 360, I feel that MS just laid their cards out on the table a little too soon and now both Nintendo and Sony can adjust their hand -- possibly taking what winnings MS had built up from the first Xbox.

I can't wait for Sony and Nintendo to show their hands so I can determine if I need to wait til october or go ahead and buy an Xbox 360. Until then, I'll just keep save my money and play on my current consoles and PC.

Sony Live-- Yea! go Sony.


177 - IMO
Unregistered - mark 02.15.2006 18:35
i would rather have one name....for every game....but that is jsut me....and then have something like MODS to watch the games for cheaters...i know some PC games have this and that is one reason it is expensive to subscribe....I also knows this all comes at a price...and i would gladly pay $5 a month for something robust.....and sony can make an online infrastructure jsut as well as MS..and we all know that they can....so no fanboys flame up and start being g@y...

178 - stay in your own site
Unregistered - jonathan 07.08.2006 23:25
why does the xbox fans feel the need to say dumb s#$%????....i mean really dont get mad cuase ps2 was on top even though microsoft had its little xbox and nintendo had there cube....i mean come on if your xbox live was so good why would u have the time to make stupid comments?????.......jeaz.......it really doesnt matter a system is a system...buy wut u want and shut up about it....NOBODY CARES!!!!!!

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