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22 Dec 2005 12:36 | Dusty | Playstation 3 PS3Today.com | Link to this article 
AQ Entertainment recently announced Vampire's Rain for the PS3 and Xbox 360. Now check out these first in-game pics.
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PS3 and Xbox360 graphics will look identical.Unregistered - Unknown 12.22.2005 12:55 This game is going to look great on both Xbox360 and PS3, Don't forget what Hideo Kojima (The creater of Metal Gear Solid)Said. "Hardware is not a issue anymore,its about who can make the best games." When everybody has Xbox360 and PS3, this arguement on who has the best graphics and gamplay will be forgettable. That's something we all can argee on. 2 -
your opinion #1BillGatesSucks 12.22.2005 14:39 The multiplatform games will LOOK (gameplay could be another matter) similar but the first party games will show the differences. In a couple years the PS3 will be ahead especially in terms of gameplay. 3 -
Unregistered - Evan 12.22.2005 15:33 LoL billgatesucks #2 Grow up and stop fallowing whatever sony does damn fanboy xbox and ps3 are both built by mega corps.. oh and they have the same power in different areas. so please stop saying stuff about which system is better without proof too. 4 -
Great:-)Unregistered - Fanboy:-) 12.22.2005 17:10 More and more Xboxfanboys are coming over here. The 360 gets faster boring than i thought. LET THE WAR BEGIN!! 5 -
Don'tUnregistered - Someperson 12.22.2005 18:07 I don't like the graphics of this game. It looks to clayish and plastic. But it could be a good looking game though 6 -
Unregistered - c'mon now 12.22.2005 18:41 c'mon now, i thought we were suppose to be discussing vampire's rain, lol, but neways the game looks awsome and coming to both consoles, caint wait for this one. 7 -
IndicaSativa420 12.22.2005 18:52 beautiful game fellas 8 -
GraphicsUnregistered - Someperson 12.22.2005 19:21 The graphics do look beautiful its just that I don't like the art style. It looks too clayish. But it does look beautiful and fun 9 -
Unregistered - Lucius 12.22.2005 20:00 Look u xbox fanboys need to open your mind and see that the PS3 is going to be the best. Just look at the specs for the PS3, 360 doesnt even have a built in HD DVD player. And look at all the glitchs that the 360 has right now, that was the worst system launch ever. And they need to start putting out more system for people to buy, how are u going to talk about your system being the best and you cant even provide enough for people to buy them. PS Vampire's Rain looks good too.lol. 10 -
Vampire girl looks sexyUnregistered - Amed 12.22.2005 20:13 I gottta tell ya, the vampire girl looks pretty sexy, they should concentrate on her figure more. 11 -
HeyUnregistered - Someperson 12.22.2005 20:53 Hey everybody! I just watched the MGS4 interview and he never said that the PS3 and XBox 360 were close. He said it was technically possible for it to run on the XBox 360 thats it. That is why I like watching the video form of a interviews. I can hear every word that they say, there reaction to the question physically and mentally. This is what I am talking about. Every story gets twisted. But anyway, I do expect flaming from Xbxo fanboys. 12 -
WatchedUnregistered - Someperson 12.22.2005 20:58 I watched the XBox 360 Fight Night Round 3 trailer and compared it to the PS3 one. I noticed that the XBox 360 trailer looked good but wasn't as good as the PS3 one. Also , since developers already have final hardware, I would of it expected it to be better than the PS3 one since developers of the PS3 had alpha kits in instead of final hardware. But I was wondering why does the Fight Round 3 PS3 trailer look better than the Xbox 360 one. Also it looked better then it and it wasn't even final hardware 13 -
Unregistered - c'mon now 12.22.2005 21:01 c'mon now were suppose to be discussing vampire's rain lol 14 -
I knowUnregistered - Someperson 12.22.2005 21:19 I know its just that I wanted to bring that up. But anyway, Vampire Rain could be about vampire stalking 15 -
Unregistered - Lucius 12.22.2005 21:28 this game looks great but it can be better. may the final project will look even better then these pics. 16 -
I knowUnregistered - Someperson 12.22.2005 21:30 The PS3 will be better than the PS2 online service. You know how I know. Well in the PSM issue, they had an interview with Kaz Hirai and Jack Tretton. When they asked why did they decide to stick with the PS2 stlyed online, he said that what they meant is that PS3 online model will have the same buisness models as the PS2. For instance, one of the buisness models was free online. That is what they meant. Trust me, it is in the PSM magazine 17 -
to many xbox fanboysUnregistered - PS3 KING 12.22.2005 22:05 there is to many xbox fanboys even registerd users are xbox fanboys whats the deal PS3 fanboys youd expect this is PS3 site but come on saying the 360 is better or the same as the PS3 is just going to cause a backlash from PS3 fans if 360 is better then you should go to a xbox site I mean you guys have your xbox360s whats the point on coming to this site if i had a PS3 i will be playing from night till noon you wouldnt see me on a xbox site talking dribble. 18 -
Unregistered - theSeus 12.22.2005 22:32 That is crap and shut the hell up about which console is better it is a pointless and stupid argument made by insecure morons. Is your ego tied to a console? Stick to the topic. Which looks interesting. Hopefully we will hear about gameplay soon. 19 -
Unregistered - theSeus 12.22.2005 22:34 The only dribble that I can see is coming out of your virtual mouth. You are no better than the "xbots" (an immature term for the less intelligent) as you term them that come here. 20 -
I knowUnregistered - Someperson 12.22.2005 22:35 I have a good feeling that this title will have alot of sex in it 21 -
Unregistered - PS3 Fan 12.22.2005 22:36 The reason so many Xbox360 owners r on this site is cos they can't play there new console constantly as they overheat so much.Just goes too show stick with a console company who can make a console that works try Sony or Nintendo next time(LOL) 22 -
Don'tUnregistered - Someperson 12.22.2005 22:37 But the only promblem that I have with this game is, it looks to clayish and plastic. I mean it looks beautiful but its art style is to clayish. 23 -
WOOHOOO..Vampires!!Unregistered - Akakage 12.22.2005 22:37 Looks good...Can't wait to see how it plays...vampires rule!!..lolz 24 -
post #3BillGatesSucks 12.22.2005 23:39 Dear Evan, I could throw up some technical specs but that would only confuse you as you're obviously a moron, because if you have seen the specs already you'd know the PS3 is a better machine. So 1) you have seen the specs and like every other xbot here you're in denial or 2) you're just a lame ass xbot running his lame ass mouth. I find it curious how you didn't say anything to post #1 concerning remarks about console favourites. Is that because he's a fellow xbot? The PS3 is going to be better, learn to live with it loser. Now, as for the game. Yeah, it looks pretty. If the gameplay is on par with the graphics it should be a great game. 25 -
#1Unregistered - oii0990i 12.23.2005 00:15 Yeh, everyone realizes what you're talking about; please shut the hell up all it does it routy the pool of fan's NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR IT. (psycho babble bullshit.) 26 -
Good news for u americansDante 12.23.2005 04:45 I've just seen that the PS3 would be first to launch in the US due to its large fanbase out there ,followed by a japanese launch 3 or 4 months later then finuope in the early of th year 2007..well those lucky Americans got everything first..wll good luck for each console to see the best we as consumers..BTW this game sounds cool new original game but surely wont take the full capabilty of both consoles.. Gotta go now.. PEACE!! 27 -
cool!1Dante 12.23.2005 04:51 look at the vampire chick right there she looks just like Avril Lavigne.. cool anyway 28 -
#26Unregistered - LOL 12.23.2005 06:25 Yea, and Nintendo has liquidated it's assets and donated all their cash to MS. Oh, and the Rev will have 24 SPE cores each running at 3,6 GHz with a next-gen GPU that we can expect in PC's somewhere around 2016. Ken was shot dead in the street last night by MS fanboys last night, Japanese sales faulty, Xbox 360 sells 4,8 million in opening weekend, bla bla bla. Dream on. =P 29 -
...Hmm....Unregistered - Harry 12.23.2005 07:17 i say ps3 will win xbox 360 in all wrestling games!!all i play is wrestling games in my ps2 and i had played all wrestling games in xbox360 and it stink!!thq cant make wrestling Xbox games cause it hard!the console stink!! 30 -
mindgrinder 12.23.2005 16:00 more games like resident evil4?sounds greeeeeeeeeaaaaaat!!!(enought with this 360 my ass that console is dead & buried next please) 31 -
theSeus #18 u talk a lot sh*t never mind dribbleUnregistered - theseus dad 12.23.2005 17:10 theSeus shut the hell up i can smell the virtual sh1t coming out of your mouth you dont make sense thats why you need 2 comments and you still dont make sense comment on xbox not xbot sites because they clearly need retards 32 -
for every xbox360 sold so is a pspUnregistered - PSP 12.23.2005 17:39 xbo360 should have never made it psp compatible watch this xbox360 getting hacked wonderfull F*CK YOU MICROSOFT http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=...&page=5&t=t&f=b 33 -
SORRY HERES THE VIDEOUnregistered - PSP 12.23.2005 17:43 http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=sbAQkuVcbaA&feature=Views&page= 5&t=t&f=b F*CK YOU MICROSOFT 34 -
HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!mindgrinder 12.23.2005 18:26 THAT VIDEO IS FRICKIN AMAZING! IT WAS A GAME OR WHAT? 35 -
PS3 fanUnregistered - Arfi gorgona 12.23.2005 18:31 Argg stop thins nonsense pls...The gameGfX are descent.Its seems like a nice game :) 36 -
Merry Christmas to all fanboys and loversUnregistered - Someperson 12.23.2005 21:35 Merry Christmas to fanboys of all console types. I wish you all a agood christmas with your family and so fourth. I won't be coming back util January. I know that none of you care but I just wanted to let everybody know.anybody is going to care if I am gone). But I enjoyed talking to some of you and reading all of your comments. Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 37 -
A questionBillGatesSucks 12.23.2005 22:10 Okay, I watchedf the youtube video and um I got a stupid question, just what was it he was hacking? The xbox live service? Giving himself a free account? What? Whatever it is, I LOVE the fact that he's using a PSP to do it. 38 -
yes hardware is an issueUnregistered - nasim007 12.24.2005 00:10 hideo kojima basically said that the architectures of ps3,pc and x360 are basically similair..but he also said that in order to produce MGS4 for 260 some or most details would have to be degraded.....please note tht at present developers are using just 10% of ps3 SDK's power and developers have told businessweek that other consoles dont even come close to the computing power of ps3...here is the link on what developers had to say Sony: Shooting from the Chip? A top exec boasts that the new Cell processor is "as good as the Pentium, if not better." But topping Intel is a tall order Nearly anyone who owns a PC is familiar with the "Intel Inside" sticker. The blue-and-white logo has been a potent symbol of Intel's (INTC) virtual lock on the market in PC processors over the past decade. Despite their best efforts, Advanced Micro Devices (AMD), Samsung, Texas Instruments (TXN), and other chipmakers have failed to knock Intel from the No.1 spot. Advertisement Now, Sony (SNE) is winding up for a swing at the champ. On Dec. 14, Kenshi Manabe, its semiconductor chief, told a gathering of financial analysts that he expects the next-generation Cell processor to become the industry standard for all kinds of multimedia consumer electronics. "The Cell chip is as good as the Pentium, if not better," Manabe said, according to several people who attended the meeting. BEYOND GAMING: Not so fast. The Cell won't be on the market until next spring, when Sony is slated to launch its PlayStation3 video-game console. And while analysts believe in the Cell's potential as a multimedia processor, none of the three companies that shared the chip's $400 million development costs -- Sony, IBM (IBM), and Toshiba -- have specified what will come after game machines. "There was a great deal of interest in whether Sony would comment about the use of the Cell chip in applications other than PS3, but [Manabe] made no specific references," Goldman Sachs Japan analyst Yuji Fujimori wrote in a report after the meeting. "The current Cell chip production capacity will be dedicated entirely to PS3 applications." You can't blame Manabe for grandstanding a bit. Sony's new chief, Sir Howard Stringer, badly needs the Cell -- and the next-generation PlayStation -- to be a hit. The chip's success could signal to the industry that Sony is back after a series of missteps left it with an outdated product lineup and mounting losses. For the year ending in March, the Tokyo-based company forecasts an $86 million net loss, compared with last year's ID="MainNewsBlogCom".4 billion profit. GREAT EXPECTATIONS: Sony's woes stem largely from its loss-making electronics division. The unit, which includes semiconductors, accounts for nearly 70% of revenues but hasn't been profitable for the past two years. By making its own specialty chips, Sony hopes to give its TVs, cameras, and cell phones technologies that rivals can't match. Putting the Cell in a gaming console gives the chip a high-profile start. Sony's gaming machine, PlayStation2, has been the hottest console in history, topping 100 million units in November after five years on the market. Analysts predict the next-generation machine will do even better. Sony is expected to sell more than 12 million PS3s in the first year and reach the 200 million mark within five years, estimates researcher Envisioneering Group. Those numbers would give Sony the crucial economies of scale needed to ratchet down the cost of each chip -- estimated in the hundreds of dollars today. But matching Intel's reach won't be easy. The No. 1 chipmaker has sold hundreds of millions of Pentium microprocessors in PCs over the years. "The Pentium chip is unique in its stature, and I don't ever expect its success to be repeated," says Tom Starnes, an analyst at market-watcher Gartner. MULTICORE MIGHT: As broadband connections make it easier to download movies, music, and games, tech companies think consumers will want a single device for all of these applications. But so far, PCs have offered the best solution because of their ubiquity and easily expandable storage space. PCs, however, can't handle too many tasks at once before getting overwhelmed. Sony has a good shot at getting the Cell into multimedia devices that are more capable. The chip is what's known as a multicore processor. Today's standard chips rely on a single processor to juggle tasks such as e-mail, Net surfing, and word processing. They run hotter, devour more energy, and can't handle tasks as smoothly as a multicore chip, which divvies up tasks among two or more processors (the Cell has between 4 and 16, depending on the configuration). That would be useful in multimedia machines that manage the digital entertainment files of an entire household. "If you had one base station doing all the decoding for games, audio, video, still photos, and weather information at once, something like the Cell could handle it," says Starnes. SLOW DEVELOPMEN: Others envision even broader uses for the chip. Mercury Computer Systems, a Chelmsford (Mass.) outfit that specializes in computers for medical and military imaging, has said it will develop the chip in CAT and MRI scanners as well as radar and sonar devices. Charles King, principal analyst at Hayward (Calif.)-based Pund-IT Research, says he sees the Cell becoming a powerful tool for computer animation, electronic diagnostic equipment, and 3-D design. "Cell has the potential to influence any of these areas," says King. ///////////////////////// IMPORTANT............................. But at this point, nobody besides Sony has any idea what the Cell will allow the PS3 to do. Game developers say they haven't seen a prototype that comes close to the blazing processing speeds and life-like graphics of the commercial-ready console Sony is promising. Though Sony declines to comment on such complaints, in November it failed to deliver on a promise to send game creators an upgraded prototype containing a graphics chip made by Santa Clara (Calif.)-based nVidia (NVDA). Without the souped-up graphics chip, "the machine we have is 10 times slower than the PS3 should be," says an exec at a game software maker who spoke on condition of anonymity. "The graphics chip was supposed to be ready by November. ////////........................IMPORTANT http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2005/tc20051222_242937.htm so this means that ps3 is using only 10% of its actual power due to the lack of availability of RSX.....in the end ps3 would end up being 10X more powerful than X360....surely this is MS last console. 39 -
BSUnregistered - DonkeyDoo 12.24.2005 11:14 we all know PS3 doesn't have what it takes. 40 -
ITAGAKI: "XBOX 360 BETTER THAN PS3"Unregistered - DonkeyDoo 12.24.2005 11:19 http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?page=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/ news/news_story.php(que)id=126317 Xbox 360 is better than PS3. We know this, because Team Ninja's ahem totally unbiased boss Tomonobu Itagaki says it's so."It's better than PlayStation 3," the creator of next-gen beat-'em-up Dead or Alive 4 said of Xbox 360 in a recent interview with GameInformer.com. See, we told you. Itakagi-san explained that for him the scales tip in favour of Microsoft's next-gen machine because: "PS3 has too complicated [an] architecture". Itagaki-san proved his undying passion for Xbox 360 by saying it's: "the best game console on the earth". It's not surprising then in light of this view to learn that Itagaki-san fully expects Xbox 360 to expand on Microsoft's console presence in Japan. 41 -
ATI: Xbox 360 Will Have Better Graphics Than PS3Unregistered - Cheapseat 12.24.2005 11:20 http://biz.gamedaily.com/features.asp?article_id=9806 42 -
Xbox 360: better because it's unifiedUnregistered - GuyOne 12.24.2005 11:26 There's a techy but readable interview with ATI 'evangelist' Richard Huddy over on bit-tech.net. Huddy claims that, although PS3 seems more powerful on paper, developers will get a better performance out Xbox 360 because of its more unified architecture: “The PS3 does appear to have a huge amount of CPU power with the seven Cell cores. The problem they have is that CPU power isn’t really what developer’s need – the bottleneck is really the graphics. Everybody is going multi-threaded and multi-core – the Xbox 360 has three PowerPC cores, AMD and Intel both have dual-core chips, so everyone is having to learn how to write this stuff. But writing multi-threaded apps for two or three cores is difficult. Doing it for seven separate cores, when the main core has a slightly different feature-set from the other six, is very, very difficult.” Of course, someone from the Sony camp is bound to counter claim over the coming weeks, prompting a counter counter claim from Microsoft and so on. But there is a logical argument here, and it's something a lot of developers seem to agree with. When I spoke to Peter Molyneux last week he was saying there's no doubt PS3 has the greater 'nuggets of power' (sounds like the sort of special ability you may find in an adult RPG), IF developers are willing and able to really exploit the hardware. But given the larger teams, the bigger budgets, the tighter development schedules, are most studios going to have the time to blast open the power of this idiosyncratic machine? Update: In the interests of impartiality, here's Kutaragi having a good old swing at Microsoft. Let's hope these two don't meet in the queue at some late night kebab shop! Via Gamesindustry.biz 43 -
ATI claims Xbox 360 graphics faster than PS3Unregistered - GuyTwo 12.24.2005 11:30 Although the RSX is more powerful in terms of raw specifications - it runs at a higher clock speed for a start, 550Mhz rather than the 500Mhz speed of the Xenos part - Huddy claims that the unified shader architecture used by ATI will give Xbox 360 the graphical edge. "That mere 10 per cent clock speed that RSX has on Xenos is easily countered by the unified shader architecture that we've implemented," he claimed. "Rather than separate pixel and vertex pipelines, we've created a single unified pipeline that can do both." "Providing developers throw instructions at our architecture in the right way, Xenos can run at 100 per cent efficiency all the time, rather than having some pipeline instructions waiting for others," Huddy explained. "For comparison, most high-end PC chips run at 50-60% typical efficiency. The super cool point is that 'in the right way' just means 'give us plenty of work to do'. The hardware manages itself." 44 -
PS3 will almost certainly be slower and less powerful...Unregistered - Frag Monger 12.24.2005 11:42 That's a surprising statement, but after some research, I found out that it may very well be the case. If you thought Sony was all talk the last round (**COUGH**75M vs. 7M actual polygons per second on PS2**COUGH**), then just wait until you hear this (keep in mind that Sony has claimed that the PS3 will be at least twice as powerful as the 360). Note - this is not a Sony/PS3 'bash'. It's simple fact. I still want both systems, but I'm becoming quite convinced that MS will come out on top this round. Sony is blowing too much smoke and making statements they/the PS3 can't live up to. (All quotes used are quoted from ATI) "360's graphical core speed can 'easily' counter PS3's supposed superiority" XBOX 360's graphical core runs at 500Mhz, while the PS3 graphical core will run at 550Mhz. However, raw numbers don't tell the whole story. The chip/processing architecture of the 360 "quite capably makes up for the apparent shortfall" between the 500Mhz and 550Mhz speeds. What lets the 360 do this? It's the system's 'unified shader architecture'. The PS3 has no unified graphic architecture/no 'unified' vertex and pixel pipelines. This can cause a 'bottleneck' in graphics processing on the PS3. "The Xenos (XBOX 360) can run at 100% efficiency all the time, rather than having some pipeline instructions waiting for others." So, even though the PS3 has more 'raw' processing power (will this help? Keep reading....), the graphical bottleneck, among other issues, keeps a strong harness on that power. The PS3 has seven (7) cell cores vs. XBOX 360's three (3) PowerPC cores. In raw numbers, this sounds great, but it can make life a nightmare for programmers. According to ATI, " (while) writing multi-threaded apps for two or three cores is difficult...doing it for seven separate cores, when the main core has a slightly different feature-set from the other six, is very, very difficult." I'm sure this makes it easy to see why developing games for the XBOX 360 will be far easier/faster for programmers than it will for the PS3 - not to mention the fact that MS is beating Sony to market this round (by several months - do NOT expect the PS3 to be ready by the end of Q1 - 2006). I'm certain that a big part of the reason most developers in this gen developed games for the PS2 first, then ported them to the Xbox, is becuase: 1. The PS2 was out first/the developers had their hands on development kits long before MS had theirs ready to go. 2. The PS2 was 'easier' for developers to program for, because it used, basically, the same architecture as the PS1. This round, the XBOX 360 will be out first, and developers have had development kits in their hands for over a year now (PS3's dev kits only went out 3-4 months ago). Also, the XNA programming language MS implemented for the 360 makes game development far easier for the programmers - not to mention the 7 cores vs. 3 cores issue (and the fact that the PS3 shares virtually no architecture with the PS1/PS2). 45 -
impressive last postsUnregistered - 12.24.2005 12:53 Now these last couple of posts I am genuinely impressed with. Why? Because they have substance and an aire of maturity unlike all the childish comments at the start of the comments section. A good read fellas, no's 37 & higher, keep it up! 46 -
impresisveUnregistered - BK 12.24.2005 14:00 im actually very impressed that more "mature" people are coming to this site it was getting oput of control. I agree with the points mentioned with the last 4-5 posts or so. except one point when the person said that ps3 dev kits were released 3-4 months ago. Thats somewhat true because that was when the final dev kit was released (after the first dev kit series got burnt because of their cpu and gpu combination something you guyz never heard of....) but beta dev kits which where practically 90% as good as the final dev kits where released about a year ago. although 10% may not seam like much improvement but that had made many companies restart programming. thats no to mention 3-4 games that were gone from the programming list because the ps3 cpu & gpu cimbination caused problems with the programming and some dev kits as i said got burnt. thats why i said that the cell is too advanced for the RSX. why do you think microsoft switched to ATi? ever thought of that? Microsoft is the main software programmer of the world and they can tell what will happen in the near future. Just like they knew for xbox 1 nVIDIA was suitable they knew that for the 360 ATi will have the upper hand with the U.A. 47 -
Unregistered - Twist96 12.24.2005 15:15 The game looks good, although as someone mentioned, a little clayish. Coming out for both platforms, yay! Now, I've gone the comments here and somehow its come to a console war AGAIN, which is friggin rediculus when we see screens HERE of a very game thats on both platforms. Fight Night Round 3 was a tech demo on PS3 (I should say on a machine BASED on a PS3), whereas the 360 is up and running, game machanics and all, so you Sony fanboys quit going on about that, at least compare the two with games like thiswere we have GAMEPLAY for both. Similarly, I don't see the hype about "Lost Planet" either. Some 360 fanboys are raving about it, but the eyes on the characters look like they were pasted on flat, and the cliff-faces are all rectangular. So you can stop raving about THAT as well. I'm telling you if this game was on 360-only the PS3 fanboys would be up in arms about how "crappy" it looks compared to some tech demos. COME ON. 48 -
interesting?Unregistered - Akakage 12.24.2005 17:36 #38 when did Kojima-san say some or most of the details on MGS4 would have to be degraded in order to run on 360? I thought he said there would be some nuances or small details that may be different. I would like to read the interview where he said most of the features would have to be degraded as that is a direct contradiction to what was being said on his interview with 1up.com 49 -
48Unregistered - BK 12.24.2005 19:48 dont worry dude dont even bother. people always overexagerate what people say. Yes kojima said small details and naunces exactly like what yo uthought and he never said anything about how almost all the important parts of of the game have to be degraded for a 360 version. Let 38 live in his little world where ps3 is the best thing around and let me and you and everyone else that is actualy open minded live in this wonderful hell called earth :). 50 -
oh Unregistered - BK 12.24.2005 19:51 and that wasnt the only thing wrong. Intel isnt the around...im sure anyone with half a brain would know that AMD makes the best pcs not intel. and another thing was that he said MGS was running at 10% while it was actually 90%. hmm how easily people are fooled when they see numbers. 51 -
whoopsUnregistered - BK 12.24.2005 19:52 meant to say intel isnt the best thing around...** 52 -
#48Unregistered - Entire post 12.25.2005 08:49 Ignore #38's comments. Damn it guys...this site is getting really pathetic by now. And NO! I don't mean all the Xbots, I mean all you idiotic PS3 "fans". It's getting really pathetic, and quite annoying as well. Not all people interested in the PS3 are as ignorant as 90% of the PS3 fanboys on this site, I hope most normal people realise this. #38 is just an example, but somebody copying and pasting such bogus information and saying such idiotic comments is just a waste. What really turned me off was the news post about MGS 4 being able to run on X360. You guys actually have the audacity to still twist his words, "he was talking about the demo, without certain effects, bla bla bla" Jezus christ people, get a life! I know the flaming will go on after this post of course, I just wanted to make it clear how pissed off I am at the whole PS3 community surrounding this site. I never really visited the X360 affiliate site for example, but the fews times before release and after is just amazing. This whole "xbot" complaint is so fake, there are a handful of MS fanboys around here, most of the idiots are Sony zealots. Their whole site has gotten alot more mature, flaming has died down, normal conversations. And the one I'm more interested in can only talk about how much better the PS3 will be. All you people complaining about Xbox fanboys, look around. You're surrounded by people that are alot more pathetic, and I'm sorry to say they're almost all "PS3 fans", and I hate you guys for that. Thanks for ruining what used to be a good news site, at least I can still glimpse some news items, but this board has gone to hell. This game is yet another good example, looks good, may be interesting, yet all you can talk about is yet another PS3 vs Xbox 360 discussion. 53 -
yeaUnregistered - BK 12.25.2005 12:22 you should visit the 360 site. there isnt as much stupidity as this site. i would post the site but i dont want all these people go there and ruin the site as well so just search for it. At that website its just news and wat people think of the news there are only few small occasions when one says that ps3 is better or 360 is better. alot of great info ther this site is ruined and the 360 site is still as good as new. and you guyz are complaining of xbots but seriously as the last guy said look at yourself with names like billgates and billgatessucks i mean who are you trying to prove wrong 54 -
Blah blah and more blahBillGatesSucks 12.25.2005 12:55 360 has better graphics. 360 has unified pipelines. PS3 will be slower. Blah blah blah. You xbots are truly the epitomy of pathetic. You spout off unsubstantiated garbage written by biased PR salesmen then pat each other on the backs for being the only "mature" posters in the forum, yet someone else posts something contradicting you (post #38) and he's the pathetic one? If you want to know why this forum is going downhill it's because of losers such as yourselves. Is it because you're all so insecure of your 360 being second rate that you find you need to come here to flame the PS3? I'm going to remind you idiots of something, this is a PS3 site, we're not interested in your opinions. If you want to hyperbolise about your pweshus wittle 360 do everyone a favour and go do it on a 360 site. The truth is Sony is a better company run by better people building a better machine than MS. Deal with it a STFU. 55 -
Unregistered - Entire post 12.25.2005 14:18 I knew there would be some kind of reaction like yours, thank you for proving my point. I particularly enjoy the fact you immediatly label me as an X360 fan. Now I have nothing against MS, but I don't have their new console, and have no intentions whatsoever of ever purchasing it. If you think what people like #38 are saying makes any sense at all, yet you complain about "xbots" coming here, you're a complete hypocrite. Childish stuff is just pathetic, and you are a prime example of the scum that ruined this place. Keep on blaming all the xbox fans, by all means. I'm sure they're part of the problem, as I've found them irritating alot too (Why would you post here so often if you dislike PS3?), but people like you are just as much to blame. As if somebody who doesn't post bullshit stories about how much better sony is than all other companies, how all opposition sucks, and posting internet related opinions as facts makes you a true fan. Get a life you pathetic excuse for a gamer, and thanks for ruining this message board for alot of people. (Or haven't you noticed?) 56 -
Unregistered - Fanboy:-) 12.25.2005 15:53 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Post 38 says that Developer said that the Ps3 will be 10 times faster in the End. Clear that no Xboxfan will believe that^^. Fact is we just know nothing. And just looking at the 360 Games you can see that the Difference to the PS2 is just Small. THAT'S A FACT PEOPLE, A FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Because you play on Xbox you will surely Decline that, clear no Problem^^. But keep in Mind that the PS2 is 5 Years old and is far away from getting outdated and is able to climb to the 360. Clear you Xboxguys will Decline that. But if you Xbox 360 Guys would be happy with your System you would never go to a PS3 Site. What are you doing here when the PS3 in your Facts is so crappy Monkeyshit? An Artikel who says that Xbox 360 is more powerful is good, an Artikel where Ps3 is better is Pathetic. Is that what you all wanna say? Sorry but that idea is more than Pathetic and idiotic together. We will have more information in 2006. But that's not only with Xbox and Playstation. The same Bullshitduell goes on in Intel vs AMD, ATI vs NVIDIA, Fifa against Prosoccer Evolution bla bla.... Merry Bullshit and a Happy new Year Alltogether.:-) 57 -
Unregistered - Entire post 12.25.2005 19:22 The fact that there are 10 posts in a row containing "articles" of the X360's so called superiority is completely ridiculous of course, but I've already pointed this out earlier in this thread. Alot of these guys come and go however, and they're just as bad as the people I've mentioned in my previous posts. 58 -
#55BillGatesSucks 12.25.2005 19:57 If I've ruined this message board for you and idiots like you, then I've done my job. Now take your unsupported opinions and lies that no one cares about and screw off. 59 -
About this Site and PatheticsUnregistered - Fanboy:-) 12.26.2005 04:14 Okay This Site is about News and RUMORS, RUUMOOOOOORS. Sony in this Time is acting like Nintendo. They hold Back. They Hold Back. So there isn't hardly any News. So we have to believe in RUMORS. You have 2 Options: Google for your News and Rumors or watch 1 Time a Day on this Site. I think this Site is great for someone like me who just wants to know what the Next Wonder from Sony is doing. This Site would have better Information when Sony wouldn't hold back. But i don't understand that Xboxfans have to Post how great the 360 is ON A PS3 SITE. All i can see is that the 360 isn't a big jump away from the PS2. Even the Xbox1 was more Powerful than the Ps2. Did it Help? NOOO. To #57: From your Post i can read that you didn't even Play Games or how can i understand that? I think it's funny to come in somewhere and say, this Guys are Pathetic, what they are doing here is Pathetic. Why are you Writing such a Comment? I don't want to make you sick. But that was really Pointless. All i know about Ps3 is that the Developers from Motorstorm already said the Graphics from the Video will be this in the End. Epic Games said UT 2007 was running great on the underclocked Devkit, on the PC you have to use a +500$ Graphicscard. The MGS4 Trailer was for a Demo in Development Stages running great to. The Gameplay Trailer from Fatal Enertia was running great to and the Graphics for an underclocked Devkit were not Bad. Just see the Video from the New Gran Turismo Game. All together and the Promises from Sony didn't look bad in any Way. We will know exactly in 2006 but now we can only collect the little Information that is comming. I hate Flamewars. The Xbox 1 and the Xbox 360 couldn't impress me in any Way. Windows is a complete other Capitel but the whole Crashes couldn't impress me to. but Sony and Nintendo can. Sony did it since Ps1. Nintendo did impress me since the Snes. I am interested in the PS3 and for that Reason i go to this Site daily. 60 -
maybeUnregistered - BK 12.26.2005 10:24 maybe if ud chosen some other name people wouldve have believed your comments but when ur name says fanboy well then there is not much to say. and 360 isnt a big jump from ps2? ARE YOU INSANE? 61 -
ughUnregistered - Jack Bag 12.26.2005 12:03 Yeah this ps3 site is truly pathetic compared to the others. There's no posts like these on the xbox site... it's really wierd. And I've never seen anyone with the name Kojimasucks or sonysucks. very very lame...go play with yourself and relieve your teen angst. 62 -
PS3 idiotsUnregistered - OneMan 12.26.2005 17:31 ....................../´¯/) ....................,/¯../ .................../..../ ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........('(...´...´.... ¯/'...') .........\.................'...../ ..........''...\.......... _.·´ ............\..............( ..............\.............\... 63 -
XBOX360 IDIOTS Unregistered - OneManSuck 12.26.2005 19:10 ....................../´¯/) ....................,/¯../ .................../..../ ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ........('(...´...´.... ¯/'...') .........\.................'...../ ..........''...\.......... _.·´ ............\..............( ..............\.............\... 64 -
to 34Unregistered - Oblivion 12.26.2005 20:03 The day that video was released it was confirmed fake.Heard it somewhere on gamefaqs. 65 -
Unregistered - jojo 12.26.2005 20:15 ....................../´¯/)<<<--------THAT'S WHERE MICROSOFT AND XBOTS FANS ARE ....................,/¯../ LOCATED YOU CAN SIT THERE TILL THE PS3 IS .................../..../ RELEASED OR U CAN SUCK IT IF U WANT TOO. ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ THE 360 REALLY SUCK.YOU KNOW THAT.THAT'S ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\ WHY YOU COME OVER HERE AND MAKE THAT ........('(...´...´.... ¯/'...') SITE LOOK VERY STUPID.AND YOU PS3 FANS U .........\.................'...../ ARE ALSO A BUNCH OF IDIOTS TO EVEN ..........''...\.......... _.·´ COMPARE THE PS3 WITH THE 360.THIS IS A ............\..............( V.A.M.P.I.R.E- R.A.I.N POST IN CASE OF U ..............\.............\... MORONS FORGOT........ 66 -
#65Unregistered - Entire post 12.26.2005 20:25 I wouldn't exactly put it that way, but you're actually spot on. 67 -
to 64mindgrinder 12.26.2005 21:07 the xbox logo with the skull was real!.but i really don't understand exactly what he's trying to do. "juegar"(play)was on the screen (after the cd was loaded)so maybe it's a copy of PDZ.it says 12/28/05 so let's wait and see maybe it's just a fake video like u said. 68 -
Unregistered - JsonHenry 12.27.2005 08:20 This game doesn't look all that great- at least not right now. But I guess you can't expect too much when there is not a final Dev kit in hand to work with. 69 -
X360 HackedUnregistered - knives 12.27.2005 14:48 Burned DVD games can be played by hacking X360 with PSP, thats what the video is about. 70 -
It's like a mastercard commercialBillGatesSucks 12.27.2005 16:39 xbox 360 by MS = $399 psp by sony = $249 360 games being hacked by psp = priceless 71 -
PriceyUnregistered - Alexander 12.27.2005 17:54 What so for the price of 5 games, you can get a handheld console that if the right software is bought, can allow the 360 to play copied games; which also cost money - and, may I add, dont look as nice and leave you feeling cheap. Get in! Thats f'ing amazing. (sarc) And to those of you that say that all 360 owners shouldnt be posting but playing on the console, thats just stupid as nobody in there right mind would play all day. Im currently spending a lot of time on it, seen as its bloody lush. Switching between the fun that I have (Kameo, PDZ, PG3, COD2 and the lovely arcade games...oh and the 3 EA games I have downloaded (demos) which are all graphically amazing: my favourite being NBA LIVE 06. Oh sorry am I rambling? Bugger. Well back to the point of this discussion - Vampire's Rain looks terribly dark, that character might aswell be Sam Fisher and its looks 'clayish' as people have put it. Lots of love, Alex (360 owner, no freezes, no problems, no boredom) 72 -
dear json henryUnregistered - BK 12.27.2005 17:55 two thins the ps3 final dev kits have been handed out and thats why games like warhawk and lair are done. 2) this game is being made on the 360 then ported to ps3 sooo yea keep that in mind. 73 -
wowmindgrinder 12.27.2005 23:07 thanks for the answer knives.wow it's amazing...the 360 is just a month in the market and already got owned.......i remember E3 05 MS was so happy to show the world that the 360 is psp compatible....BOO-YA! 74 -
am i the only one to notice?Unregistered - BK 12.27.2005 23:54 am i the only person to notice that the cideo is paused 3-4 times throughout? right after he inserts the disc there is a little jag and some other times. if your careful enough you can tell. You seriously didnt think after psp is slaved to the 360 the psp can force the 360 to run programs did you? the security is in hardware and that hardware is not affected by any software. The only way to mod the 360 is to melt a chip on it like the xbox 1. You guyz actualy think that psp would mod into the 360??? 75 -
spellingUnregistered - BK 12.27.2005 23:57 ignore the spelling mistakes i was in a hurry. video* 76 -
To # 72Unregistered - whocares 12.28.2005 03:51 Final devkits were only given out this month launch games like warhawk will be finished on beta kits. 77 -
betaUnregistered - BK 12.28.2005 12:06 beta kits are one step behind final so their practically 90% the same so it really doesnt matter. No game will use that extra ten percent this soon anyways. 78 -
Unregistered - Yep yep. 12.28.2005 19:08 Doesn't look bad. Looks more like current gen PC, which isn't a bad thing. 79 -
Havoc 12.28.2005 19:44 Yea, looks good to me especially the chick with her breast hanging out. 80 -
Good art styleUnregistered - addicted 12.29.2005 14:15 But it is not the most demanding power wise, it would probably be better for the game then something realistic. 81 -
X360 vs PS3 GraphicsUnregistered - whocares 12.29.2005 21:27 OK wif we look at the PC graphics cards, and compare them to what is kind of known about PS3's and X360's graphic chips, they could very well be equal, but according to a site I found the supposed graphic chip in X360 is slower than the supposed 7800GT, here read this, also take note they are talking about the X1800 XL not the standard chip in X360. "The card is still slower than the GeForce 7800 GT in OpenGL games, excepting the same Quake 4, as well as in games where high fill rate or efficient execution of many simple shaders is necessary. In other words, no miracle has happened and the RADEON X1800 XL remains just as it was – representing ATI’s approach to building a new-generation GPU." http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/sapphire-x1800xl_26.html Looks to me like PS3 wins in graphics and processing power. 82 -
okUnregistered - BK 12.29.2005 21:57 first of all i have to admit im too lazy to go the website but from what you just said there is nothing mentioned about the unified architecture or even the xenos. first of all the card is amazing because because it runs 100% at 10% of the time unlike all other video cards out there. thats why you cant compare this cards performance on paper. and you said that they compared the x1800 with the 7800 gt? ok first of all they did say the rsx is just a faster 7800 but they never said that the xenos is anything like the x1800. please first go and see what unified architecture is and how it works and then see if the website is right ot wrong. you cant believe watever they say on a site you gotta have the brains for urself. thats y you dont buy in to the sony or microsoft hype or liston when they compare.but if anything the xenos is stronger than the rsx and even Nvidia admitted that theyll probably pick up the unified system after a while. 83 -
DAMN TYPOS Unregistered - BK 12.29.2005 21:58 100% at 100% of the time***************** 84 -
To # 82Unregistered - whocares 12.29.2005 22:26 Since you think your the expert why dont you explain the difference between an X1800 an X1600 XL and the Xenos chip, yea the X360 has 48 pipelines albeit they are weaker than those in RSX, now please explain. 85 -
TYPOUnregistered - whocares 12.29.2005 22:30 that was supposed to read X1800 XL not X1600 XL 86 -
To # 82Unregistered - whocares 12.29.2005 22:54 Unified pipelines have'nt been proven to be optimal, no one knows how well they will preform, (judgeing by the first wave of games, theyre not too hot). It could make it more difficult, because developers now have to think how to optimize and split the workload than have dedicated piplelines that they dont have to think about. Its similar to multiple cores, so 360 developers have to think about the multiple cpu cores and the balancing of the GPUs pipeline performance. I realy dont see developers getting 100% performance all the time, sorry. 87 -
To # 82Unregistered - KoOkOo67 12.29.2005 23:23 Check anadtech website on my signiture at the bottom, read it thuraly. You will read near the end that they said that the rsx tryed using the unified architecture, but they found that the current one they are using works better with the rsx. Meaning that the rsx will produce better graphics with the current architecture, but the unified did worse on it. They also said that they are willing to try the unifed architecture again. This means many things. 1)obviosly nvidea is hiding something with its architecure. 2)You can'nt judge the architectures expecially when the nvidia hasn't confirmed its RSX architecture. 88 -
Unregistered - Vash180 12.30.2005 00:02 the game looks nice but it lacks the polish seen on most of the polish seen on most next gen games we are seeing. it looks more like something that fell out of one of the alpha kits of either of the respective consoles (id rather not start a continued flame war by naming one of the three). Now as for those argueing about the PS3 and the 360 i can only say please stop. It is impossible to compare them head to head seeing as how one of the contenders is not in the ring not to mention the true power of a system cannot be seen in its initial launch. Compare som of the fisrt PS2 games to say a new game like God of War graphics on the PS2 have increased leaps and bounds on some occassions rivaling its more powerful bretheren (God of War, Resident Evil 4) the same can be said about som Xbox games. Those first games were ugly as well dont deny it. Anyway as Ken Kuturagi (if i butchered his name please bear with me people) the proof will be in the pudding. And when we find ourselves figting another flame war i want tyou to remember the immortal word of Vash the Stampede Love and Peace ya'll Love and Peace (^_^)v 89 -
Interesting, READ THISUnregistered - knives 12.30.2005 00:53 "The software giant will still probably hit its target of shipping 2.75 million to 3 million Xbox 360s within 90 days of the device's launch last month, Klasell said, predicting that Microsoft would ship 1.6 million devices in the first quarter of 2006. But the company is likely to ship the bulk of those systems toward the end of the quarter, he said. Such a result could hinder Microsoft's efforts to cut into Sony's (SNE:NYSE - commentary - research - Cramer's Take) position as the leading manufacturer of video-game consoles. Part of Microsoft's strategy was to launch the Xbox 360 well in advance of Sony's upcoming PlayStation 3. But Sony expects to have the PlayStation 3 out next spring, potentially limiting Microsoft's ability to gain a big head start in terms of units shipped." http://www.thestreet.com/_googlen/tech/gamesandgadgets/10259460.html?cm_ven=GOOGLEN&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA Shouldn't be too hard for Sony to take the lead 90 -
LMAOUnregistered - BK 12.30.2005 13:22 yes your right Nvidia is definately keeping a secret in its architecture. and ps3 is keeping its second cell cpu also a secret which helps the pps3 reach 4 Tflops with the hidden architecture of RSX. Anywayyyyyys back to reality...I dont know if you read the comments by ati, dont liston to how he says that their card is better because that may be comments but read about what he said that sony did. sonys relationship with Nvidia was for about 2 months untill the final RSX while microsoft was with ATi since 2 years ago (xbox 360 started on blue prints at about 3 years ago, while ps3 started last year, which is yet another reason why ps3 is launching later.) so wat Nvidia did was to overclock their 7800 and give it to ps3 there was no secret architecture there was no super small midget calculatin all this while u play ur ps3 with the yeti. and btw ifu read any comment on the cards youll hear the words "in the long run" thats y the first few games will not be so beautifull which some are IMPO. Oh and about how it cant run at 100% all the time...i dontthink you got the point what they mean is that there will be no dlitches or jagging in a game because of slow info transfer and bottlenecking, and the comment on how its harder to program for the xenos rather than the rsx...wrong in so many ways. The rsx isnt unified so the dev have to synchronize everything while the xenos is synchronized already. they still have to program all pipelines but that also goes for the rsx dude its not like the rsx knows already what the devs want. or on the second thought that may be the secret architecture... and you think its hard to program for multiple cores????? you think its easy to program for 7 SPE's and a core??? 91 -
curss the typosUnregistered - BK 12.30.2005 13:24 glithing* 92 -
CRAP curss the typosUnregistered - BK 12.30.2005 13:24 glitching* 93 -
Xbox 360Unregistered - Xboxsucks 12.30.2005 17:20 I'd like to say for all u stupid Xbox fanboys that Xbox 360 sucks. If u put an xbox 360 on a carpet floor it will blow up. Many xbox 360s have power problems and if u play for more than 3 or 4 hours the consle cacthes on fire! I went to Best Buy to play the demo of Xbox 360.(Call of Duty2) The graphics r just as good as my computer! My computer has a 5200 Nvida graphics card! It sucks. And i hear Sony is going to have better online support than xbox. The PS3 has 3 times as better graphics card. Has a wopping 10 times faster ethernet port! It also has 2 times as many power. And has backwords compatibility all the way back to the PS1! If it wasn't for Halo & Halo 2 there would be no Xbox 360. In fact, thats what most people r buying it for. U r stupid and to buy an Xbox 360! 94 -
Unregistered - vash180 12.30.2005 17:35 you just want to start a flame war dont you 95 -
to mrm xboxsucksUnregistered - BK 12.30.2005 17:48 alright although you were wrong on about 500 different things well just try and ignore one of the most ignorent and arrogant posts in the history of this site. 96 -
BKUnregistered - Xboxsucks 12.30.2005 18:16 Bk i have facts from EGM. 97 -
Eh...Unregistered - Honest Abe 12.30.2005 18:27 I'm not impressed. I know all the consoles can pull off way better and I'm not even gonna start any "Yeah, its good on (Ps3 or 360.) but (Ps3 or 360) can pull off better." The game looks pretty bad in my opinion. clayish, jagged and blurry. They're just screenshots, but still. This isn't the best looking game on the next-gen at all. In my opinion its one of the worst no matter what console you pick. 98 -
ATI: Playstation 3 Is UnrefinedUnregistered - BadNewsBear 12.30.2005 23:40 http://www.xbox365.com/news.cgi?id=GGPNHNiHrN12262027 The European Developers Relations Manager for ATI, Richard Huddy, was quoted in an interview with Edge magazine saying that "I think Xbox 360 technology is likely to outperform PlayStation 3 technology by a pretty healthy margin in the long run." and that the RSX was basically a PC part component slapped into the Playstation 3 at the last moment of the Playstation 3's development process. Source: GamersReports.com Edge Magazine: How do you think your work on the 360 measures up to PS3? Richard Hubby: [...]With the PS3 my understanding of what happened is that they had three different internal hardware solutions - at one point, for example, as I understand it there was a proposal to use multiple Cell processors just to handle the graphics. And towards the end of the process, as the story goes, they took a look at the three internal tenders and decided than none of them would actually do; none of them would deliver the kind of performance and quality that games programmers could use and would make for a good cost-effective console, so they had to go out and shop around. And one of the places they shopped was Nvidia, and what Nvidia did was say: 'Well, you've got this relatively short timeframe, you've got roughly this kind of budget, I'll tell you what we'll do: we'll do you a good price on what is essentially the 7800GTX'. So that's a PC chip, and if you look at the architecture of the two consoles you can see we've done bizarre things that they haven't. We've built ten megabytes of dedicated ED RAM which knows how to antialias and so on, because that's a specific way of addressing a console's problem. It's bizarre in a PC sense but a special skill for a console builder. Whereas the PS3 has 256 meg of system memory and 256 meg of graphics memory it communicates through what is effectively a PCI express bus. It uses GDDR3 fast memory, it's essentially a PC graphics design bolted on to a Cell processor and 256 meg of fast system memory... Edge Magazine: You make it sound so unrefined! Richard Hubby: [Laughs.] Well, yeah, but the tragedy is that it is unrefined. There's a lot brute force in there - I'd be the last person to admit it, but the truth is that the 7800GTX is a pretty powerful piece of hardware, but it's not very elegant, it hasn't got the kind of: 'Well, how do we design this to be the best possible console we can build for this money?' Instead it's been put together at the end of quite a complicated process. We have two very different design processes. If Microsoft had come to us and said: 'All right, what are we going to do about this graphics chip, then? Let's sign the contract and let's go', but then we'd got two thirds through and they'd said: 'Look, you guys aren't going to deliver - now what are you going to do?' and then walked away from us, they would have ended up with a design very much like the PS3 in some essential characteristics - it would have had to use bought-in components. And our GPUs instead are custom-designed components, and that's one of the fundamental reasons why I think Xbox 360 technology is likely to outperform PlayStation 3 technology by a pretty healthy margin in the long run. Edge Magazine: So how about this one: can those E3 PS3 demos be achieved on Xbox 360? Richard Hubby: Well, why not take another combative line here? I think it's more likely that they can be realised on an Xbox 360 than they can be on a PS3. Those things are movies generated using whatever DCC software the houses had in mind. The Epic demo was running on a PC, and it was done using an early 7800 in SLI mode, so that was a high-end PC demo, but the movies were generated as movies and dressed up as: 'This is what you can expect from a PS3', but that's probably overstating what the PS3 can do a little bit. Indeed, it's well beyond what we expect the PS3 to be able to do. So I guess we'll just have to see what happens..." 99 -
yes im sureUnregistered - BK 12.30.2005 23:55 yea im sure in ur sources it says that "xbox 360 sucks" and "you are stupid to buy an xbox 360" and "halo and halo 2 are the only games on xbox". please just shut up and dont ell me about sources...that is ur opinion and frankly most of us dont care. 100 -
BKUnregistered - xboxsucks 12.31.2005 00:38 Bk ur just an xbox fanboy who is just dissapointed that xbox360 is crap. And FYI i never said Halo 1& 2 were the only games on the xbox and my sources come strait from Sony AND Microsoft 101 -
PAUL CERULA 12.31.2005 01:45 Yes well the decision still stands. Kojima (mgs4 guy) himself declared that the ps3 and xbox 360 are almost identical in power so stop dreaming and being hyped up. ALSO PS3 WON'T BE LAUNCHED IN SPRING....Sony's bull shi... you all. C'mon guys think, no one in the video game industry outside of sony believes a spring launch can happen. You'll all see in a couple months that Sony will live up to its reputation 102 -
Unregistered - vash180 12.31.2005 02:15 It has already ben said by Ken himself that they are planning to launch in spring but they are willing to hold back if software is not up to par. We all realise this but we all hold out hope that everything will go as planned. So if you could stop stepping on our hope we would be much appreciative thank you 103 -
i am sureUnregistered - BK 12.31.2005 12:20 yea my uncles sons best friends dad works for microsoft and my aunts brother in law works in sony so i get all info:P sigh its sad how some people need to lie to feel important and wanted. 104 -
CongratzUnregistered - xboxsuckx 12.31.2005 17:26 Congratz on some long distance realitive and friend which u probley dont't know, getting a job mopping floors at Sony's and Microsoft's headquarters. 105 -
Unregistered - me 12.31.2005 19:03 f*ck those asian consoles 106 -
Unregistered - you 12.31.2005 19:21 I guess the most of the Sony suckers here use Windows 'cause they're too stupid for Linux 107 -
new thingUnregistered - BK 01.01.2006 02:55 there is a new thing caleld jokes and sarcasm. you should really get used to em i mean their awesome. neways happy merry new year and may this year bring the best and maybe worst for you guyz. 108 -
Unregistered - . 01.01.2006 06:49 X360 = 720p/1080i PS3 = 1080p PS3 > X360 in graphics nuff said 109 -
To # 98Unregistered - someone 01.01.2006 14:02 You do realize Richard Hubby works for ATI right? the whole edge interview is biased shee, go back to your wonderfully boring X360 with Xbox1 graphics, while we wait for the true next gen system. 110 -
wowUnregistered - BK 01.01.2006 15:05 "X360 = 720p/1080i PS3 = 1080p PS3 > X360 in graphics nuff said " if you still think like that, then you have some problems because weve discussed this so many times im bored of it. as for the ATi, he did have some true points. sony did want to use the cell as the gpu and cpu but then it seemed they needed two cells to do so but to cut costs they went to Nvidia and got a very good pc gpu. Thing is that 7800 gtx is an awesome pc card but what this ATi guy is saying is that instead of taking a good card sony should found a card ot created a card that is made for the cell in the ps3. this is how xbox 360 did it. they created xenon went to ATi and told them to create thebest possible card for this cpu and they created the xenos. thats why it is more efficient with the xenon and xenos while the RSX and cell are awesome but they are not efficient because they are not made for eachother. and nothing like the xenos will be released for pc and thats why he says that they created a console card. those are facts however i could care less for what adjectives he used or w.e but those are facts. 111 -
you know the routineUnregistered - BK 01.01.2006 15:07 the damn typose...not ot its or* 112 -
BKUnregistered - Someperson 01.01.2006 16:48 The RSX have been in development since 2002. It was built from ground up to connect to the Cell based on a 90 Nonmetre line. It uses the structure of the Nvidia 7800. Nvidia have been tweaking ever since E3 until now(since they are finished with RSX now). Why would you believe a guy from ATI. Before there new graphics card came out, they said it would have 48 pipelines then said 32 and ended up with 24 pipelines 113 -
release dateUnregistered - iwantps3 01.01.2006 19:47 will they ever bring out a specific date for the ps3?! , that game looks awsome but all i want is a ps3 , ps3 is gonna play blu ray , will it play dvds? or will the games be like psps? in a little case and little disc? 114 -
PAUL CERULA 01.01.2006 19:57 113, Ha Sony won't launch in Spring. No one in the video game industry outside of Sony believes a spring launch is possible. Realistically ps3 launch is going to be at the earliest September all the way to christmas. 115 -
To 113Unregistered - Someperson 01.01.2006 20:00 The Playstation 3 will play every kind of disc oromat, Blu Ray ae unscractable . Donn't worry about it. Oh and Spring ends in late June. Don't listen to Paul Cerula. Nobody knows when it is going to launch except for Sony. I hope I answered your question 116 -
ummUnregistered - BK 01.01.2006 20:25 im pretty sure that the 520 and the xenos are the only cards that are out with 90nm. and the rsx hasnt been being developed since 2002 and cell did not exist around that time. where do you guyz get these wild speculations? 117 -
BKUnregistered - Someperson 01.01.2006 23:31 Nvidia even said it has been in development since 2002 om 90 Nonmetre. It was built to link to the Cell in mind. Sony and IBM have planned the Cell Processor since 1999. In 1999, the Cell was in its concept stages. But I can't change your opinion so I don't care what you think. Like I said I am never comming back to these forums. 118 -
To # 117Unregistered - Gamer 01.02.2006 00:25 Don't listen to the Sony haters, the best thing to do is look up the facts, here they are: "Sony and nVidia indicated this week they have been collaborating for two years on the graphics solution for Cell under a broad, multi-year agreement based on royalties." http://www.technewsworld.com/story/38786.html That article is dated 12/08/04 that's 2004 and Nvidia has been working with Sony 2 years before that article, which means their venture together started 2002, just like you said. To all the Xbots: Instead of making bullsheet stories up, get playing your X360's, no one wants to hear your whining excuses for wasting your money on a second rate console, if your bored of your X360 already, go to your lonely hearts forum, I'm sure there's a few of them about, bearing the name X360 in the address just do a Google search for X360 forum and your set. |
